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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2287

Today's Topics: 

  Re: I LOVE DEBIAN!                    [ Hugo Vanwoerkom  ]
  Re:problems installing etch: no HD d  [ ossmaillist  ]
  Amarok + mp3 embedded album art       [ koffiejunkie  ]
  Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian        [ "Kelly Clowers"  ]
  Re: how to provide extra library pat  [ "P Kapat"  ]
  Should /etc/hostname contain the who  [ Jonathan Wilson  ]
  Re: kde panels !                      [ Johannes Wiedersich 

Date:  Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:08:42 -0500


From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject:  Re: I LOVE DEBIAN!

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Florian Kulzer wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:09:23 +0100, Rolando Pereira wrote:
>> [ "nobody@esc69.midphase.com" ] wrote [ pretending to be Bob Proulx ]:
>>> I love Debian so much that when I see the Debian boot screen my rocket 
>>> takes off!!
>> I wish I had a hamster powered rocket...
> 
> I wish you had not sent your reply to Bob Proulx directly, because he
> had nothing to do with the original message.
> 

I wish I knew why anybody would do that...


Do you need help?X

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:42:04 -0500


From: Sam Leon <leon.mailinglist.36@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: I LOVE DEBIAN!

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bob@proulx.com wrote:

> I love Debian so much that when I see the Debian boot screen my rocket takes off!!
>   

Me too



Sam



Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:59:52 +0100


From: Barry Samuels <barry@realbritain.f2s.com>
To: Debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Can't get USB Audio to work

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Do you need more help?X

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I have a record deck with a USB connection which I last used about 9=20
months ago. The setup was working then and, as I remember, it was=20
pretty straightforward to set up. Since that time there have been many=20
Debian updates and I'm almost certainly using a later kernel.



When I came to use it this time in conjunction with Audacity, which I=20
was using last time, I can't get a peep out of it although playing=20
sound files, e.g. midi, does work.


Can we help you?X

I have tried various inputs without success. The appropriate modules=20
are loaded including snd_usb_audio.



When the USB lead is plugged in I get this in the logs:



kernel: usb 1-7.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address=20
6


kernel: usb 1-7.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
kernel: input: Burr-Brown from TI    =20
USB Audio CODEC  as /class/input/input4


kernel: input: USB HID v1.00 Device [Burr-Brown from TI              =20
USB Audio CODEC ] on usb-0000:00:1d.7-7.1
kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio



a little further on in the log I see:



kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -28: not enough=20
bandwidth



Originally I got this in the log:



kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -38: enable=20
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO to play through a hub



so I enabled that in the kernel and recompiled although I'm not using a=20
USB hub and then got the 'not enough bandwidth' error.


Can't find what you're looking for?X

I'm running an uptodate (today) Debian Testing with kernel 2.6.22 and=20
Alsa modules.



Can anyone suggest what I could do to try and trace the fault as I'm=20
way out of my depth here?



Regards



--=20


Barry Samuels

http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk

The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain



Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:04:09 -0300


From: Marcelo Chiapparini <chiappa@oi.com.br>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: problems installing etch: no HD detected

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Hi!



I need to install etch in a notebook which has MS-Vista installed. I
have shrinked the HD (using diskpart from inside Vista) in order to get
room for etch. I am using the etch netinstall cd, and the gui-expert
mode  with the following parameters: "acpi=off pnpbios=off noapic
noapm" (I need these parameters in order to boot the Knoppix live CD,
so, I guess the same are need for etch). Everything is going fine until
the stage where the HD is detected: the etch installer doesn't detect
any HD... 


The installed HD is a Western Diginal Scorpio HD (WD800BEVS), using the
SATA port 1. I wonder if I need any special module to be loaded during
the installation...


Any help will be very welcome.


Don't know where to look next?X

Regards



Marcelo



-- 
Marcelo Chiapparini
chiappa@oi.com.br


Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:10:46 -0700
From: michael@estone.ca
To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: problems installing etch: no HD detected
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Quoting michael@estone.ca:


> Quoting Marcelo Chiapparini <chiappa@oi.com.br>:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I need to install etch in a notebook which has MS-Vista installed. I
>> have shrinked the HD (using diskpart from inside Vista) in order to get
>> room for etch. I am using the etch netinstall cd, and the gui-expert
>> mode  with the following parameters: "acpi=3Doff pnpbios=3Doff noapic
>> noapm" (I need these parameters in order to boot the Knoppix live CD,
>> so, I guess the same are need for etch). Everything is going fine until
>> the stage where the HD is detected: the etch installer doesn't detect
>> any HD...
>> The installed HD is a Western Diginal Scorpio HD (WD800BEVS), using the
>> SATA port 1. I wonder if I need any special module to be loaded during
>> the installation...
>> Any help will be very welcome.
>>
>
> Etch defaults with a 2.6.18 kernel which might not have the drivers for
> your chipset. Give lenny or sid a try, or if your heart is set on etch,
> then perhaps look for a custom etch install with backported kernels.
> 2.6.22 would probably detect your drive.
>
> Cheers,


sorry, I clicked on the wrong reply button, so here it is back to the list.



Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:23:20 +0200
From: Johannes Wiedersich <johannes@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: kde panels !
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Mark Grieveson wrote:

> Perhaps it's time to try gnome.  


kde is by no means perfect. The last time I tried gnome, however, it was
far worse.

Just one example: I still hate that all or most of the gnome
applications I use (firefox and OO.o are the most prominent) continue to
igonre my global setting of A4 paper
/-----------------
johannes2:~$ cat /etc/papersize
a4
\-----------------
and use their own 'letter' default. They also have their own respective
printer managers instead one default printer manager for all
applications (kprinter for kde).

YMMV, just MHO,

Johannes
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:50:11 -0400
From: Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 11:55:52AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:

> Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com> writes:
> > Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, upgrading from Ubuntu to
> > Debian (And vice-versa) is nearly impossible and unsupported by the
> > Debian community (If you did try it, we probably wouldn't be able to
> > help you). Too many things are done differently between the two
> > operating systems, for example, while Debian uses root to do many tasks
> > by default Ubuntu has no true root user and instead uses sudo.
> 
> I dunno, I've done debian<->ubuntu (both directions) with few problems
> (this was a year or two ago).
> 
> As I recall the only issues were due to some python packaging
> differences (and as I understand it, the python packging on the two
> system has converged since then).... [Gee, come to think of it about 95%
> of the packaging problems I see these days (even with a pure debian
> system) seem to be related to python!]
> 
> The impression I was left with from that experience was that the two
> systems are _very_ close to each other in most respects, and that a lot
> of the difference is essentially window dressing and random minor bug
> fixes here and there.
> 
> Anyway, it's certainly good to know what you're doing, but it seems
> silly to say it's "nearly impossible."
> 
> -Miles
> 


Well I guess it really depends how long you've been using the Ubuntu
base system. If you install Ubuntu as a minimal system and upgrade into
Debian, sure, it'll have little to no problems. But what if you've been
using Ubuntu for seven months now, you have all your applications
install, with all the libraries with version numbers like
"2-3.2-ubuntu-1"? You'd run into a lot more problems that way. I've
heard stories of people trying to dist-upgrade into Sid and hosing their
entire system.

Of course, everything I say is theoretical; Being that I only have one
computer (My laptop) I haven't had the chance to actually try a
dist-upgrade in this fashion. But you'll be sure that it'll be the first
thing I do when I buy a new computer.

- -- 
If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative
programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they
restrict the use of these programs. 
 - Richard Stallman
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:29:05 +0800 (CST)
From: ossmaillist <ossmaillist@126.com>
To: Debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re:problems installing etch: no HD detected
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so sorry I sent the reply to the wrong address!it's my first time to use ma=
illist. i meant, for your laptop, perhaps you should use the up-to-date ker=
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I need to install etch in a notebook which has MS-Vista installed. I
have shrinked the HD (using diskpart from inside Vista) in order to get
room for etch. I am using the etch netinstall cd, and the gui-expert
mode  with the following parameters: "acpi=3Doff pnpbios=3Doff noapic
noapm" (I need these parameters in order to boot the Knoppix live CD,
so, I guess the same are need for etch). Everything is going fine until
the stage where the HD is detected: the etch installer doesn't detect
any HD...=20
The installed HD is a Western Diginal Scorpio HD (WD800BEVS), using the
SATA port 1. I wonder if I need any special module to be loaded during
the installation...
Any help will be very welcome.

Regards

Marcelo


--=20
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chiappa@oi.com.br


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:34:14 +0100
From: koffiejunkie <koffiejunkielistlurker@koffiejunkie.za.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Amarok + mp3 embedded album art
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Hi guys,

I'm seeing a strange issue.  I was busy sorting my music collection, 
fixing tags with easytag (1.99.13-0.0 from debian-multimedia), and 
adding album art to the files (embedded).

Then, I noticed that Amarok (1.4.4-4) displays garbled image art.  I'm 
not enitrely sure if Amarok is feeding me rubbish, or is Easytag not 
saving the files correctly?  Amarok displays the embedded album art from 
.m4a files correctly.

Thanks



Date:  Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:37:22 +0100
From: Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: kde panels !
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:23:20 +0200
Johannes Wiedersich <johannes@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
 

> kde is by no means perfect. The last time I tried gnome, however, it
> was far worse.

> Just one example: I still hate that all or most of the gnome
> applications I use (firefox and OO.o are the most prominent) continue
> to igonre my global setting of A4 paper


[...]

That is indeed irritating, but those are not GNOME applications.

-- 

Liam


Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:39:22 +0200
From: Johannes Wiedersich <johannes@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: kde panels !
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Rick wrote:

> have the typical kde panel below to launch my apps, and applets, virtual 
> desktop.... HOWEVER, its getting crowded... I would like to do the 
> following "IF Possible"
> 
> is there a way to add a new panel, and have it display only "Open Windows or 
> Open Apps"... again, the original panel is very crowded,
> and I would like to move ALL "Open Windows" Open Browsers..and Open Apps...
> to that New panel, and have that New panel just display those item only.


I don't know about your preferences and your display, but you could
alternatively try to use 'configure panel -> arrangement' Size: small or
tiny. For my display and liking, the smaller size of the panel is
sufficient and I get more information per pixel.

As suggested in another post, you can get a child panel as follows: just
right-click somewhere on the (little??) free space of your panel. Then
"add new panel ->  external task bar".

HTH,

Johannes
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:47:06 +0200
From: Pol Hallen <debianen@fuckaround.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, chiappa@oi.com.br
Subject: Re: problems installing etch: no HD detected
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> The installed HD is a Western Diginal Scorpio HD (WD800BEVS), using the
> SATA port 1. I wonder if I need any special module to be loaded during
> the installation...

Hi
Maybe, might be a controller problem. So, debian don't see any hard disk.
Try switch to shell and do dmesg command.

Or try daily netinstall snapshot.

U might try with ubuntu live 6.10 (it doesn't install anything on hard disk) 
and check if ubuntu's kernel check your controller (and disk).

So, u could understand what's the problem.

Best r.
Pol



Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:09:49 +0200
From: Chris <list.hurschler@gmx.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: aptitude full-upgrade - why does it not install Recommended packages?
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sudo aptitude full-upgrade --with-recommends

can anyone tell me why it still reports (for example):

The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libxalan2-java-gcj

Thanks,

Chris

-- 
C. Hurschler



Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:30:22 -0700
From: "Kelly Clowers" <kelly.clowers@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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On 8/30/07, Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> wrote:

> Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com> writes:
> > Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, upgrading from Ubuntu to
> > Debian (And vice-versa) is nearly impossible and unsupported by the
> > Debian community (If you did try it, we probably wouldn't be able to
> > help you). Too many things are done differently between the two
> > operating systems, for example, while Debian uses root to do many tasks
> > by default Ubuntu has no true root user and instead uses sudo.
>
> I dunno, I've done debian<->ubuntu (both directions) with few problems
> (this was a year or two ago).
>
> As I recall the only issues were due to some python packaging
> differences (and as I understand it, the python packging on the two
> system has converged since then).... [Gee, come to think of it about 95%
> of the packaging problems I see these days (even with a pure debian
> system) seem to be related to python!]
>
> The impression I was left with from that experience was that the two
> systems are _very_ close to each other in most respects, and that a lot
> of the difference is essentially window dressing and random minor bug
> fixes here and there.
>
> Anyway, it's certainly good to know what you're doing, but it seems
> silly to say it's "nearly impossible."


I agree with this. I have never done a full Debian -> Ubuntu or
Ubuntu -> Debian transition, but I have often pulled in one or two
packages from the other distro.

My main machine is currently Sid, with Gnome, GTK and hplip
packages from Ubuntu's dev version. In the past I have installed
large numbers of packages from Ubuntu, and then gradually
moved back to pure Debian as the Debian packages caught up
or passed the Ubuntu versions.

You have to know what you are doing regarding resolving
dependency conflicts (aptitude's ncurses interface being
invaluable for this), but it is definitely possible.


Cheers,
Kelly



Date:  Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:30:15 -0400
From: "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  lightning data in sync between two Icedove installations
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Hello,

I am using Thunderbird's (Icedove) calendar extension, Lightning, on my
home computer and at my univ computer. I want to keep Lightning data on
both computer in sync. Any idea how to go about doing this? (for now, I
am not interested in installing a calendar server of any sorts).


Thanks,
->HS



Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:33:31 -0400
From: "P Kapat" <kap4lin@gmail.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: how to provide extra library paths?
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Ok, getting back to this library path issue:

Here is Michael's response and my current reply:

On 8/29/07, Michael Marsh <michael.a.marsh@gmail.com> wrote:

> You should probably send replies to the list, so that other people can
> see if/how responses helped.


Yes I should, thanks. Its just the bad habit of using pine and then switching back to gmail's UI :(


> On 8/29/07, P Kapat <kap4lin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am not quite sure about that because I have a lot of other variables
> > and things in .bash_profile which is available from konsole or xterm.
> > For example, my PATH is being set in
> > .bash_profile which ofcourse is available from konsole or xterm. And
> > .bashrc is being sourced inside .bash_profile.
> 
> Are you sourcing any other files in either your .bash_profile or
> .bashrc?  


No I am not sourcing any other file... I can provide the two files here if necessary..


> There might be a "helpful" system-wide file that's clearing
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH for you.  Try putting the following at the top of your
> .bashrc:
> 
> set -x
> 
> That should tell you what's being done where.


Ok, I did that. The outcome is the following: 
  When I login remotely (thru ssh) or on a VT, I see the variables from both .bashrc and .bash_profile, as expected I suppose.
  But when I login to KDE locally, and start a konsole or xterm, only the .bashrc variables are printed out. This again I suppose as is expected that any new shell (either in konsole or xterm) is probably a non-login interactive shell.

The funny part is though only .bashrc seems to be sourced when I start a konsole (or xterm) I do have the variables from .bash_profile available, except LD_LIBRARY_PATH.


> > > Is there a reason that you don't want to set this in .bashrc?
> > Not really! I am living that way right now. But ideally, a library
> > path need be defined once, shouldn't it?
> 
> True enough.


Is LD_LIBRARY_PATH the only way to provide extra library paths?

-- 
Regards
PK
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:38:01 -0500
From: Jonathan Wilson <jw@mailsw.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Should /etc/hostname contain the whole FQDN?
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I have been trying to find out the exact and proper way to set the host and 
domain name on Debian and it's clear as mud. Searching the internet gives all 
sorts of conflicting answers.

First, I thought the way to do it was to put the FQDN in /etc/hostname. Then I 
ended up with host.domain.domain.tld (maybe I caused that some other way).

I looked at the default in a variety of  Debian systems that I've setup using 
only thing installer defaults to configure the hostname. Some had only the 
hostname in /etc/hosts, some had the FQDN.

I've read the hostname manpage. It says clearly:

"It is not possible to set the FQDN or the DNS domain name with the 
dnsdomainname command"

Then it says

"The  host  name is usually set once at system startup in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 
or /etc/init.d/boot (normally by reading the contents of a file which 
contains the host name, e.g.  /etc/hostname)"

Those first 2 files don't exist on Debian Etch. And thought it says it usually 
gets the hostname from /etc/hostname, that still doesn't tell me if that 
should contain the hostname or the FQDN.

Then it says "The FQDN of the system is the name that the resolver(3) returns 
for the host name."

Ok, so what's the resolver?
man 3 resolver returns nothing
man resolver talks about /etc/resolv.conf. 
It does talking about setting "domain", then it says search and domain are 
mutually exclusive. So while /etc/resolv.conf may have some effect on the 
hostname, it surely isn't THE way the system gets it's FQDN.

Back to hostname man page:

"Technically: The FQDN is the name gethostbyname(2) returns for the host name 
returned by gethostname(2).  The DNS domain name is the part after the first 
dot."

(where does gethostbyname(2) and gethostname(2) look?)

"Therefore it depends on the configuration (usually in /etc/host.conf) how you 
can change it. Usually (if the  hosts  file  is parsed before DNS or NIS) you 
can change it in /etc/hosts."

My /etc/host.conf contains this:

multi on

So that's still not where it's set. Manpage for hosts.conf says multi: 
"If  set to on, the resolv+ library will return all valid addresses for a host 
that appears in the /etc/hosts file, instead of only the first."

So that's how it looks up IP<-> name mappings, but that /still/ doens't tell 
me how to set my FQDN.

Can anyone who /knows/ tell me what the proper officially correct ways of 
setting the hostname and the FQDN are, please?

Thanks,

	JW



Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:47:05 +0200
From: Johannes Wiedersich <johannes@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: kde panels !
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Liam O'Toole wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:23:20 +0200
> Johannes Wiedersich <johannes@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
>  
>> kde is by no means perfect. The last time I tried gnome, however, it
>> was far worse.
> 
>> Just one example: I still hate that all or most of the gnome
>> applications I use (firefox and OO.o are the most prominent) continue
>> to igonre my global setting of A4 paper
> 
> [...]
> 
> That is indeed irritating, but those are not GNOME applications.


Err, yes.
[Me hiding in the corner. ]

They have, however, been integrated into the look and feel of GNOME,
rather than kde. This applies probably to the printing system.
If I open a pdf from iceweasel (shouldn't have written firefox) and
don't use the standard 'document viewer' (what is that? another GNOME
application!), I get GNOME's file selection dialog, etc, etc.


Johannes
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