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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2289

Today's Topics: 

  Re: how to provide extra library pat  [ "P Kapat"  ]
  Re: aptitude full-upgrade - why does  [ "Mumia W.."  ]
  Re: Editing a text file with sed      [ Joe Hart  ]
  Re: How to bind keys to commands, wi  [ "Masatran, R. Deepak"  ]
  hard disk crash                       [ steef  ]
  Re: how to provide extra library pat  [ "Michael Marsh"  ]
  ip / iproute obeleted? Secondary IPs  [ Jonathan Wilson  ]
  Re: Xen dom0 non-PAE kernel frustrat  [ Bill Thompson  ]
  Re: Xen dom0 non-PAE kernel frustrat  [ Remco Bressers  ]
  Re: How to bind keys to commands, wi  [ "P Kapat"  ]
  Re: How to bind keys to commands, wi  [ Benjamin A'Lee  ]
  Re: how to provide extra library pat  [ "P Kapat"  ]
  Re: Opera vs Kmail, Kontact, Konvers  [ "P Kapat"  ]
  Re: hard disk crash                   [ Peter Greff  ]
  Re: lightning data in sync between t  [ "P Kapat"  ]
  Re: Suspend problem on T60 (moved)    [ Jesse Sheidlower  ]

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:00:26 -0400
From: "P Kapat" <kap4lin@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to provide extra library paths? 

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Here is some more information:

On 8/31/07, P Kapat <kap4lin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Michael, thanks for taking the time out for this issue...
>
> On 8/31/07, Michael Marsh <michael.a.marsh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 8/31/07, P Kapat <kap4lin@gmail.com> wrote:

[...snip...]

Do you need help?X

> > > The funny part is though only .bashrc seems to be sourced when I start a konsole (or xterm) I do have the variables from .bash_profile available, except LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
> >
> > Is it possible that you're getting those variable from an existing
> > environment?
>
> My guess is that KDE is "sourcing" .bash_profile to set the
> environment variables at login. And when konsole or xterm is started,
> only .bashrc gets sourced. Now, in between somehow, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is
> getting unset!!!
>
> > That is, if you set them session-wide, and then for some
> > reason unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Sticking a call to "env" at the top of
> > your .bashrc should tell you this.
>
> Ok, I have put env and set -x in .bashrc as you can see above. The
> output is as follows:
> vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

[...snip...]

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I search for the string LD_LIBRARY_PATH in all of my home files... apart from .bashrc and .bash_profile, .xsession-errors had the following:

$ grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH .xsession-errors
+ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=BASH_PROFILE
+ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=BASH_PROFILE which I guess is coming form .bash_profile once it gets "sourced" at login!! I am not sure. 

-- 
Regards
PK
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http://counter.li.org  #402424

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:12:10 -0500 From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: aptitude full-upgrade - why does it not install Recommended packages? Message-ID: <46D8680A.8050307@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 08/31/2007 01:24 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> That at least explains the behavior, and makes sense I guess. But I'd
> actually like it to really install all "recommends", for all packages I have
> installed.
>
This Perl script won't do the installs for you, but it should give you a look at what you might end up installing if you do want all of the recommended packages for every installed package: #!/usr/bin/perl my @installed = grep /\binstall$/, `dpkg --get-selections`; @installed = map +(/^(\S+)/)[0], @installed; my $rx = join ('|', map quotemeta, @installed); system(aptitude => search => "~Drecommends:($rx)"); __END__

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:26:32 -0400 From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Aptitude behaving strangely Message-Id: <20070831162632.5088c6f0.celejar@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, My aptitude (uptodate Sid) has been behaving rather strangely lately. When doing updates, it seems to always hang for long periods of time while displaying the line: 99% [5 Packages 4308] or similar. No processor, network or HDD usage seems to be occurring. It subsequently generally finishes okay, although I'm not sure it is always completing the update successfully (all packages I have manually checked against p.d.o seem to be at the latest version, but I haven't been very systematic about it). It also seems to be overall more sluggish and erratic. I know this is very vague and unhelpful, but I was just wondering if anyone has been seeing anything like this. I've tried playing with sources.list, but I get similar results no matter which mirror I use (I've only tried a few), and even with apt-get. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:29:55 +0200 From: Joe Hart <j.hart@orange.nl> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Editing a text file with sed Message-Id: <200708312229.55811.j.hart@orange.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 29 August 2007 17:26:25 Mumia W.. wrote:
> On 08/29/2007 08:17 AM, Joe Hart wrote:
> > I am having trouble using sed to edit text files, heres a good example of
> > what I am looking for:
> >
> > <begin 1.txt>
> > This is a test
> > file, what I am
> > trying to do is get the lines to join.
> >
> > It isn't a complicated thing,
> > but I also want to keep the paragraphs
> > separate.
> > </end 1.txt>
> >
> > I try this command:
> > [...]
>
> Here's another Perl solution:
>
> perl -00 -pe 's/\n+(?!$)/ /g; s/\n\n$/\n/' myfile.txt
>
> If you want to keep the blank lines between paragraphs, remove the
> second substitution.
Thank you everyone, that little bit of perl seems to work, and yes I did want to keep the blank line so I end up with: perl -00 -pe 's/\n+(?!$)/ /g;' < 1.txt > 2.txt which is exactly what is written above - the second substitution. I did use the dos2unix command first which may have helped. In any event, my problem is solved and I am a happy camper. I knew it could be done, and in the process I have learned quite a bit about regex and even can get a clue what that perl is doing, although I am still not quite capable of creating such a masterpiece of a line. Joe

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 02:37:58 +0530 From: "Masatran, R. Deepak" <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How to bind keys to commands, without requiring login? Message-ID: <20070831210758.GA11191@research.iiit.ac.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline * Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> 2007-08-30
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:27:56 +0530
> "Masatran, R. Deepak" <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in> wrote:
> > I want to bind some keys to commands. I can do this using my window manager,
> > but I want it to work even if (1) Nobody is logged in OR if (2) the screen
> > is locked with a screen-saver.
> >
> > I am using Debian 4.0, with GDM, and Sawfish.
>
> Have you tried the standard 'xbindkeys'?
I tried it, but how can I make it work in spite of the screen-saver? -- Masatran, R. Deepak <http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/>

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:11:07 -0400 From: Jesse Sheidlower <jester@panix.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Suspend problem on T60 Message-ID: <20070831211107.GA12512@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I'm running Etch on a Lenovo T60. Up to now, I haven't had a problem suspending my computer by shutting the lid. This morning, I tried to do this and it didn't work; it locked the screensaver, but did not suspend. When I re-entered my password, there was a message from Gnome Power Manager saying that there was a suspend problem, and pointing to a link for more info. The link, to http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-power-manager/faq.html , was unhelpful; it suggested that either the hardware is unsupported (clearly not true, as it's been working up to now), or that I need to file a bug report, though the link to this didn't work. Any ideas what really might be causing this, and how to fix the problem? I'm not sure if errors are logged, and where they go, or any other way to evaluate what's happening. I don't _think_ I upgraded or installed anything that might be conflicting with this. Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:19:26 +0200 From: steef <steefvanduin@zonnet.nl> To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: hard disk crash Message-ID: <46D885DE.8060900@zonnet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi you all out there, one of my hd's crashed completely for unknown reasons. i tried several solutions without any result. knoppix 5.0 recognized the partition with data (/dev/hda1) but refuses to mount it: 'i could not determine the filesystem etc. etc. ' the debian etch network installer (rescue and rescuegui) speaks of 'incorrectable errors' on [ a series ] of hd blocks. mounting /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/partx is refused. a 'normal' boot of the machine (with which i started) stops dead at /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-4-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro error 25 disk read error press any key to continue.... gpart stopped dead analyzing the disk. somebody out there who can give me a helping hand to repair somehow the hd or point me to a method/way or program to rescue at least my holiday-photographs from france i put on the hd two hours before the crash...? any help much appreciated! regards, steef

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:40:06 -0400 From: "Michael Marsh" <michael.a.marsh@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: how to provide extra library paths? Message-ID: <ceb0ad00708311440u5fe07b58r62eaf0d8c4dc40d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 8/31/07, P Kapat <kap4lin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Michael, thanks for taking the time out for this issue...
>
> On 8/31/07, Michael Marsh <michael.a.marsh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 8/31/07, P Kapat <kap4lin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > No I am not sourcing any other file... I can provide the two files here if necessary..
> >
> > That might be worthwhile.
>
> Here is .bashrc: (kindly bear with the unnecessary aliases and may be
> broken lines. Also for anonymity I have changed the actual hostname
> and username.)
[snip] I don't see anything obvious in it.
> My guess is that KDE is "sourcing" .bash_profile to set the
> environment variables at login. And when konsole or xterm is started,
> only .bashrc gets sourced. Now, in between somehow, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is
> getting unset!!!
The real question is what is KDE doing between first sourcing your profile and then running xterm. Since I don't have KDE installed, I don't know what files it might be running. Presumably, you have something like .kde, .kderc, or Desktop in your home directory. Does grep find anything about LD_LIBRARY_PATH in any of those?
> Does this help?
Well, ruling things out is helpful. I'm pretty much stumped, though. BTW, the lines in your .xsession-errors are output from your .bashrc being run by something that doesn't have a tty output. That's probably the initial sourcing at session start-up. -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh http://mamarsh.blogspot.com http://36pints.blogspot.com

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:40:26 +0200 From: Remco Bressers <remco@signet.nl> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Xen dom0 non-PAE kernel frustrations Message-ID: <46D87CBA.4070302@signet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After 10 years of FreeBSD fun, i started out with Debian because of the excellent HP software support on it and Xen support which FreeBSD lacks bigtime. I'm pretty happy with the result, but i'm getting really frustrated by my Xen installation. In the domU i am going to run an OpenFiler image, which is bound to i386-nonPAE-smp-xenU The i386 part is no problem, but non-PAE means disabling high-memory support in a custom kernel as there aren't any non-PAE kernels anymore in Debian Etch. Using apt-get to install a xen image and hypervisor won't work, so i tried compiling my own kernel. After a lot of hard work (i'm used to FreeBSD), i managed to compile my kernel but it's rather flaky. Can someone precisely tell me what steps i need to take for compiling a non-PAE i386 kernel for use with Debian dom0? I used the wiki on http://strugglers.net/wiki/User:Andy/Xen as a howto, but i end up in a non-bootable kernel. Sorry for the ignorance. Google gives me 1000's of results, but i need to have a hint that really works for my situation. Remco Bressers

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:47:33 -0500 From: Jonathan Wilson <jw@mailsw.com> To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: ip / iproute obeleted? Secondary IPs vs. IP Aliases Message-Id: <200708311647.33631.jw@mailsw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm trying to install some software that is able to add secondary IP addresses to the computer. I've alway used to useing ip aliases, with ifconfig, for example.: eth0:1 The docs I'm reading recommend using "secondary ips" instead of aliases. It says that IP Aliases are deprecated in favor of "secondary ips", for example: ip addr add <ip>/<netmask> broadcast <broadcast> dev eth0 My base minimal net install of Etch for not have the "ip" binary at all. A search in Debian packages shows that it belongs to "iproute". iproute is (obviously) not a default package, and it's last changelog was in 2006. Is iproute considered obsolete now, also? Or is it just that so few people use it it's not part of the base system? Are secondary IPs using "ip add add . . ." still the way to go or is there some other way to add multiple IPs to 1 NIC device now? Thanks, JW -- ---------------------- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:58:16 -0700 From: Bill Thompson <Billt@Mahagonny.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Xen dom0 non-PAE kernel frustrations Message-ID: <20070831145816.0fb5cf7f@bebop.mahagonny.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpPbiBGcmks IDMxIEF1ZyAyMDA3IDIyOjQwOjI2ICswMjAwDQpSZW1jbyBCcmVzc2VycyA8cmVtY29Ac2lnbmV0 Lm5sPiB3cm90ZToNCiANCj4gVXNpbmcgYXB0LWdldCB0byBpbnN0YWxsIGEgeGVuIGltYWdlIGFu ZCBoeXBlcnZpc29yIHdvbid0IHdvcmssIHNvIGkgDQo+IHRyaWVkIGNvbXBpbGluZyBteSBvd24g a2VybmVsLiBBZnRlciBhIGxvdCBvZiBoYXJkIHdvcmsgKGknbSB1c2VkIHRvIA0KPiBGcmVlQlNE KSwgaSBtYW5hZ2VkIHRvIGNvbXBpbGUgbXkga2VybmVsIGJ1dCBpdCdzIHJhdGhlciBmbGFreS4N Cg0KSSBoYXZlIGp1c3Qgc3RhcnRlZCB3b3JraW5nIG9uIGEgWGVuIHByb2plY3QgbXlzZWxmLiBJ IHdhcyBhYmxlIHRvDQppbnN0YWxsIGEgWGVuIGtlcm5lbCBhbmQgaHlwZXJ2aXNvciBvbiBFdGNo IChzdGFibGUpIGJ5IGluc3RhbGxpbmcgdGhlDQoieGVuLWxpbnV4LXN5c3RlbS0yLjYuMTgtNS14 ZW4tNjg2IiBwYWNrYWdlLg0KDQpUYWtlIGEgbG9vayBhdA0KaHR0cDovL3d3dy5ob3d0b2Zvcmdl LmNvbS9kZWJpYW5fZXRjaF94ZW5fZnJvbV9kZWJpYW5fcmVwb3NpdG9yeS4NCkFsdGhvdWdoIHRo aXMgaG93LXRvIGRvZXMgbm90IGNvdmVyIHRoZSAieGVuLWxpbnV4LXN5c3RlbSIgcGFja2FnZSwg aXQNCmlzIGEgbW9yZSB1cC10by1kYXRlIERlYmlhbiBob3ctdG8uDQotLS0tLUJFR0lOIFBHUCBT SUdOQVRVUkUtLS0tLQ0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuNC42IChHTlUvTGludXgpDQoNCmlEOERC UUZHMkk3L3VMUGxkUHVXWm5BUkF2K1VBS0NCMTVpTXVPQUJwL2k0MG52eUd6L0FFQ0xiSGdDZU9B YTQNCmwreWdNRHlTRFVpdi9YMzFmNDdDM3FvPQ0KPTd0MzQNCi0tLS0tRU5EIFBHUCBTSUdOQVRV UkUtLS0tLQ0K

Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:00:29 +0200 From: Remco Bressers <remco@signet.nl> To: Bill Thompson <Billt@Mahagonny.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Xen dom0 non-PAE kernel frustrations Message-ID: <46D88F7D.4030508@signet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Thompson wrote:
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> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:40:26 +0200
> Remco Bressers <remco@signet.nl> wrote:
>
>> Using apt-get to install a xen image and hypervisor won't work, so i
>> tried compiling my own kernel. After a lot of hard work (i'm used to
>> FreeBSD), i managed to compile my kernel but it's rather flaky.
>
> I have just started working on a Xen project myself. I was able to
> install a Xen kernel and hypervisor on Etch (stable) by installing the
> "xen-linux-system-2.6.18-5-xen-686" package.
>
> Take a look at
> http://www.howtoforge.com/debian_etch_xen_from_debian_repository.
> Although this how-to does not cover the "xen-linux-system" package, it
> is a more up-to-date Debian how-to.
Thanks, but i have been there and had the whole thing working, but i NEED a non-PAE kernel. My hardware supports it, but the domU image doesn't accept a PAE dom0. (i guess that's the correct explanation). r.

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:04:14 -0400 From: "P Kapat" <kap4lin@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How to bind keys to commands, without requiring login? Message-ID: <daef5be80708311504p78bacb7bm375604b60732f9b0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 8/30/07, Masatran, R. Deepak <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in> wrote:
> I want to bind some keys to commands. I can do this using my window manager,
> but I want it to work even if (1) Nobody is logged in OR if (2) the screen
> is locked with a screen-saver.
I do not quite understand the issues!! (1) What good are "keys" when nobody is logged in?? (2) If the screen is locked with a screen saver (by some user, may be yourself), you still have the six VT, whch will give a shell (after LOGGING in), wherein you might (I am not sure) use xbindkeys (as Celejar was suggesting) to launch your favorite shell scripts (as long as they dont require X). You certainly do not wish to launch a command bypassing the screen lock, do you? -- Regards PK -------------------------------------- http://counter.li.org #402424

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:32:49 +0100 From: Benjamin A'Lee <bma+lists@subvert.org.uk> To: P Kapat <kap4lin@gmail.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How to bind keys to commands, without requiring login? Message-ID: <20070831223249.GC6595@gilmour.subvert.org.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH" Content-Disposition: inline --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 06:04:14PM -0400, P Kapat wrote:
> On 8/30/07, Masatran, R. Deepak <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in> wrote:
> > I want to bind some keys to commands. I can do this using my window man=
ager,
> > but I want it to work even if (1) Nobody is logged in OR if (2) the scr=
een
> > is locked with a screen-saver.
>=20
> I do not quite understand the issues!!
> (1) What good are "keys" when nobody is logged in??
> (2) If the screen is locked with a screen saver (by some user, may be
> yourself), you still have the six VT, whch will give a shell (after
> LOGGING in), wherein you might (I am not sure) use xbindkeys (as
> Celejar was suggesting) to launch your favorite shell scripts (as long
> as they dont require X). You certainly do not wish to launch a command
> bypassing the screen lock, do you?
Keys are quite useful when nobody is logged in, if for example you want them to work on the login screen (for example, changing a keymap to make it possible to type usernames/passwords). It's also perfectly possible to disable switching to a VT from X11. I seem to remember Ubuntu does by default, which I always discover just when I have a problem that I need to switch to a terminal for... Ben --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG2JcREUZDNrttL6ARAo/lAJ94s4KWWsOvFcizqyX9uJcTyP7qaQCbBFu6 LFp0bKH9MTRpC7rnYserpm0= =DxLB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH--

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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:32:41 +0200 From: Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Opera vs Kmail, Kontact, Konversation Message-ID: <46D89709.700@noctus.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig19E9DCC74AEB6E622E2CDABE" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig19E9DCC74AEB6E622E2CDABE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. P Kapat, 01.09.2007 00:29:
> One thing that annoys me
> is that if you come across a .torrent file on the net, using opera, it
> doesn't give you a option to just download the .torrent file or even
> better open with another application.
Never tried to change that behaviour? See Preferences =E2=86=92 Advanced = =E2=86=92 Downloads. Regards, Mathias --=20 debian/rules --------------enig19E9DCC74AEB6E622E2CDABE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG2JcJYfUFJ3ewsJgRAvsJAJ4i3abceugMBuZ3+ZiaDeprmTpMZQCfSdlo VrBoxYT6Lx5FW1Jqk6KVjuM= =Kogk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig19E9DCC74AEB6E622E2CDABE--

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:25:40 -0400 From: "P Kapat" <kap4lin@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: how to provide extra library paths? Message-ID: <daef5be80708311525ue53a429ib28d3db4b34ac9ab@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 8/31/07, Michael Marsh <michael.a.marsh@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/31/07, P Kapat <kap4lin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Michael, thanks for taking the time out for this issue...
> > Here is .bashrc: (kindly bear with the unnecessary aliases and may be
> > broken lines. Also for anonymity I have changed the actual hostname
> > and username.)
> [snip]
>
> I don't see anything obvious in it.
>
> > My guess is that KDE is "sourcing" .bash_profile to set the
> > environment variables at login. And when konsole or xterm is started,
> > only .bashrc gets sourced. Now, in between somehow, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is
> > getting unset!!!
>
> The real question is what is KDE doing between first sourcing your
> profile and then running xterm. Since I don't have KDE installed, I
> don't know what files it might be running.
>
> Presumably, you have something like .kde, .kderc, or Desktop in your
> home directory. Does grep find anything about LD_LIBRARY_PATH in any
> of those?
well, there is a .kde directory where all kde related configurations get stored, but no LD_LIBRARY_PATH in any of those files (even binary)... I will have to study the KDE startup nicely sometime. Btw, I am logging into KDE from GDM. Would that play any role?
> Well, ruling things out is helpful. I'm pretty much stumped, though.
>
> BTW, the lines in your .xsession-errors are output from your .bashrc
> being run by something that doesn't have a tty output. That's
> probably the initial sourcing at session start-up.
I think it was from .bash_profile. Is it possible to know which program modified the .xsession-errors last? -- Regards PK -------------------------------------- http://counter.li.org #402424

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:29:52 -0400 From: "P Kapat" <kap4lin@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Opera vs Kmail, Kontact, Konversation Message-ID: <daef5be80708311529xd0df028q30d716f6b94bc8c8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 8/31/07, Rick <cms0009@gmail.com> wrote:
> Notice, that Opera can do all of this (email, usenet, rss feeds, irc, web
> surfing, contacts... and more, inside one app, and all at the same time.
And also download torrents!!!
> Now that I said that.... is anyone running Opera using All of its abilities.?
> and if so, ANY problems have you notice? (corruption?) loss data ?..etc
I use Opera for just browsing on windows... One thing that annoys me is that if you come across a .torrent file on the net, using opera, it doesn't give you a option to just download the .torrent file or even better open with another application. I always had to start the torrent download thru opera then stop it, go hunt the .torrent file and then open it with another application (say utorrent). -- Regards PK -------------------------------------- http://counter.li.org #402424

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 01:01:35 +0200 From: Peter Greff <pege@arcor.de> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: steefvanduin@zonnet.nl Subject: Re: hard disk crash Message-Id: <E1IRFUd-00022d-6n@pgnet.ath.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:19:26 +0200 steef <steefvanduin@zonnet.nl> schrieb:
> hi you all out there,
>
> one of my hd's crashed completely for unknown reasons. i tried several
> solutions without any result. knoppix 5.0 recognized the partition
> with data (/dev/hda1) but refuses to mount it: 'i could not determine
> the filesystem etc. etc. '
>
[...] Use "dd_rescue" to copy the contents of the harddisk to an image. Then you can use this image to try to extract some data. If you use ext2 filesystem you can try e2retrieve, e2salvage and/or e2extract to recover some data from the damaged partitions. Peter -- Peter Greff <pege@arcor.de>

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:13:51 -0400 From: "P Kapat" <kap4lin@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: lightning data in sync between two Icedove installations Message-ID: <daef5be80708311613r18e7c43cvda5cf46aedccaf6f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I do not use Thunderbird and never tried Lightning, but this is what I found with some after trying both and little bit of 'find'ing... On 8/31/07, H.S. <hs.samix@gmail.com> wrote:
> H.S. wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am using Thunderbird's (Icedove) calendar extension, Lightning, on my
> > home computer and at my univ computer. I want to keep Lightning data on
> > both computer in sync. Any idea how to go about doing this? (for now, I
> > am not interested in installing a calendar server of any sorts).
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ->HS
>
>
> By the way, if I knew exactly which files hold calendar data, I wouldn't
> mind an rsync option.
~/.thunderbird/garbage-default/storage.sdb (this is mostly the one) and/or ~/.thunderbird/garbage-default/localstore.rdf where garbage was "e93462s7" on my machine... this might vary from one machine to the other... But once created, I think it doesn't change... I use rsync to keep my KDE-calender, addressbook, rss feeds, basket notes etc in sync between different computers... -- Regards PK -------------------------------------- http://counter.li.org #402424

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:15:42 -0400 From: Jesse Sheidlower <jester@panix.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Suspend problem on T60 (moved) Message-ID: <20070831231542.GA7607@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 05:11:07PM -0400, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
>
> I'm running Etch on a Lenovo T60. Up to now, I haven't had a
> problem suspending my computer by shutting the lid.
(I've now sent this message to the debian-laptop list, which I should have done originally. Apologies for the duplicate post.) Jesse Sheidlower End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2289 ************************************************** Received on Fri Aug 31 19:39:05 2007

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