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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2295
Today's Topics:
Re: Shut down or leave on? [ Cousin Stanley ]
Re: ip / iproute obeleted? Secondary [ bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) ]
Re: xterm won't start on AMD K6 with [ Paul Scott ]
Re: Copy ./ to subdirectory. [ Osamu Aoki ]
debian base system install [ John Pycroft ]
Re: xen-pae and headerfiles [ Andy Smith ]
Hi where can I get g++ package [ isarayunyong ]
Re: how to show all loop devices? lo [ Andy Smith ]
Re: xterm won't start on AMD K6 with [ Takehiko Abe ]
Re: Hi where can I get g++ package [ Kumar Appaiah ]
Re: Hi where can I get g++ package [ Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com> ]
Re: Hi where can I get g++ package [ Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> ]
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:34:56 -0500
From: Cousin Stanley <cousinstanley@hotmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Shut down or leave on?
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> My previous server used 100 Watts on average.
>
> If left on 24/7, that's 61,320 hours a year,
> or 6,132,000 Watt-hours or 6,132 kWh.
> ....
Adam ....
The number of hours per year that you used
in your calculation seems a bit high ....
hours_per_day = 24
days_per_year = 366
hours_per_year = hours_per_day * days_per_year
print '\n ' , hours_per_year
8784
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Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:04:13 +0900
From: Takehiko Abe <keke@gol.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: xterm won't start on AMD K6 with stock 2.6.22-1-486 kernel
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Paul Scott wrote:
>> looks different from the previous pty error. Have you fixed that?
>
> I don't know enough to know why it should have changed with all
> stock updates or enough to fix it at this point.
You reported that legacy pty support is turned off in the new kernel.
That is one change from the old setup. And someone reported that his
xterm works fine with non-legacy pty, but yours apparently does not.
Why don't you check if you have a working non-legacy pty system or
not?
$ stat /dev/ptmx
$ mountpoint /dev/pts
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:45:32 -0600
From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ip / iproute obeleted? Secondary IPs vs. IP Aliases
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Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> My base minimal net install of Etch for not have the "ip" binary at all. =
A=20
> search in Debian packages shows that it belongs to "iproute".
Correct.
> iproute is (obviously) not a default package, and it's last changelog was=
in=20
> 2006.
The Stable release of Debian is "stable" meaning that the packages are
not changed nor updated unless there is an important reason to do so
such as security vulnerabilities. The version of iproute released
with Debian Stable Etch has not had any security advisories against it
and therefore has not needed a new version.
If you look at the bleeding edge version in Sid you will see that it
has been getting newer changes. Here is the changelog for the version
in Unstable / Sid.
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/i/iproute/iproute_2007031=
3-1/changelog
> Is iproute considered obsolete now, also?=20
It is still considered the tool to use as far as I know. Here is an
alternative reference that also discusses it.
http://www1.shorewall.net/Shorewall_and_Aliased_Interfaces.html
> Or is it just that so few people use it it's not part of the base system?
I assume that it is not in the base system because it is not actually
required on all systems. Systems that do not have network interfaces
will not need this for example.
It would seem reasonable to lobby to have the debian-installer install
this by default when a network interface is detected. Or possibly to
have it added to one of the tasks so that aptitude will install it by
default at system installation time. But I don't think it needs to be
forced onto all systems.
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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:40:51 -0700
From: Paul Scott <paslist@ultrasw.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: xterm won't start on AMD K6 with stock 2.6.22-1-486 kernel
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Takehiko Abe wrote:
> Paul Scott wrote:
>
> >> looks different from the previous pty error. Have you fixed that?
> >
> > I don't know enough to know why it should have changed with all
> > stock updates or enough to fix it at this point.
>
> You reported that legacy pty support is turned off in the new kernel.
> That is one change from the old setup. And someone reported that his
> xterm works fine with non-legacy pty, but yours apparently does not.
> Why don't you check if you have a working non-legacy pty system or
> not?
>
> $ stat /dev/ptmx
> $ mountpoint /dev/pts
$ stat /dev/ptmx
File: `/dev/ptmx'
Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 character
special file
Device: ch/12d Inode: 1916 Links: 1 Device type: 5,2
Access: (0666/crw-rw-rw-) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
Access: 2007-09-01 09:55:28.252272222 -0700
Modify: 2007-09-01 09:55:28.252272222 -0700
Change: 2007-09-01 16:55:45.471585264 -0700
mountpoint says /dev/pts is not a mount point
(I don't know where to go from here)
Thanks,
Paul
>
>
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:34:21 +0900
From: Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>
To: James Preece <james@lovingit.co.uk>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Copy ./ to subdirectory.
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Hi,
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 01:16:50PM +0100, James Preece wrote:
> This is probably a simple question but I can't find the answer
> anywhere and my friend Google won't search for ./ and 'copy' brings up
> all sorts.
>
> Basically, I've got a folder containing various files for a website
> (for simplicity lets say it's this):
>
> /mydirectory/index.html
> /mydirectory/images/image.gif
>
> I want to make a backup so in the /mydirectory/ folder I do:
>
> cp -r ./ backup
>
> I wanted his to result in:
>
> /mydirectory/index.html
> /mydirectory/images/image.gif
> /mydirectory/backup/index.html
> /mydirectory/backup/images/image.gif
>
> Does that make sense? The error I get is:
>
> cp: cannot copy a directory, `./', into itself, `backup'
>
> Is there a way to have cp ignore the newly created directory? Something like:
>
> cp -r ./ backup --ignore=backup
>
> Any help appreciated. I can work around it by simply making my backup
> somewhere else but I would be suprised if it's not possible to do this
> somehow.
I think direct answer to your question has been answered :-)
Here is the twisted one for back up.
The way you do only gives you single level backup. Please consider
making use of git (git-core package). Then you get nice history with
gui (gitk).
http://wiki.debian.org/DRData?action=show#head-386c7f05861f6cebf5eae046652c2ac25a8f1ddf
If you are making timed backup with plain cp, you can do it with find
while using prune to avoid stepping on your own backup.
http://localhost/Wiki/DRData?action=show#head-386c7f05861f6cebf5eae046652c2ac25a8f1ddf
> Kind Regards and many thanks,
God luck.
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:28:30 +1030
From: John Pycroft <person_1873@hotmail.com>
To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: debian base system install
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Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:19:32 +0000
From: Andy Smith <andy@lug.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xen kernel security
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Hi Frank,
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 02:33:38PM +0200, Frank wrote:
> I'm wondering about the old xen kernel. What's about the security=20
> patches which are implemented in the standard kernel? Do the debian xen=
=20
> packages contains this patches or is it only the old kernel 2.6.18.5?
Debian's Xen kernel is the same as Debian's normal kernel, but with
xen patches also. So Debian's Xen kernel contains the same security
patches as the non-xen kernel.
> Is the debian xen 2.6.18.5 kernel the same as the official xen 2.6.18.5=
=20
> kernel?
Most likely not as xensource distributes only an old kernel with xen
patches, and does not keep it up to date with security patches as
debian's kernel team does. It's one of the main reasons why you'd
use your (OS) vendor's Xen kernel rather than xensource's.
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Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:23:53 +0000
From: Andy Smith <andy@lug.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xen-pae and headerfiles
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Hi Frank,
On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 01:43:13PM +0200, Frank wrote:
> By default the xen-pae version is installed but I don't need it because=
=20
> the maschine has only 512MB.
All x86 Debian kernels are PAE.
> Should I still use pae and how could I get rid of pae packages?
If you're using x86 (and not x86_64) then you need the PAE
hypervisor.
You could compile a custom kernel that is not PAE, and then use the
non-PAE hypervisor, but that sounds like a lot of effort for not
very much gain.
> Also by default no xen header files are installed. Are they optional or=
=20
> what for xen uses it?
What header files do you need exactly?
Cheers,
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Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 05:50:33 +0200 (CEST)
From: isarayunyong <isarayunyong@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Hi where can I get g++ package
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I have the same problem. "Configure error: C compiler cannot create execu=
tables"
First of all I did not have "gcc" at all. I downloaded and installed [b]g=
cc-4.1_4.1.1-21_i386.deb[/b]. Then I got your heading message. After read=
ing your messages I downloaded [b]g++-4.1_4.1.1-21_i386.deb[/b], tried to=
installed with GDebi package installer."Error: Dependency is not satisfi=
able: [b]libstdc++c-4.1-dev[/b]".
So I downloaded [b]libstdc++c-4.1-dev_4.1.1_21_i386.deb[/b],tried to inst=
all "Error:Dependency is not satisfiable:g++-4.1"
Now I downloaded and tried to install [b]g++-4.1_4.1.1-21_i386.deb[/b] "E=
rror:Dependency is not satisfiable: [b]libstdc++6-4.1-dev[/b]"
Things seem to be going into an infinite loop. What do I do from here. An=
y suggesstion, please?
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:32:01 +0000
From: Andy Smith <andy@lug.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: domU fan and thermal error - blacklist creation for domU need?
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Hi Frank,
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 07:50:39PM +0200, Frank wrote:
> How can I get rid off this messages during a domU boot?
> I'm using etch
>=20
> FATAL: Error inserting fan=20
> (/lib/modules/2.6.18-5-xen-686/kernel/drivers/acpi/fan.ko): No such
> device
> FATAL: Error inserting thermal=20
> (/lib/modules/2.6.18-5-xen-686/kernel/drivers/acpi/thermal.ko): No
> such device
Personally I either ignore the message or remove the modules. It's
pointless trying to load modules for which there is no hardware.
Maybe there is a more elegant solution, but finding it is far down my
list of priorities at the moment.
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Andy
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Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:33:21 +0000
From: Andy Smith <andy@lug.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to show all loop devices? losetup -a doesn't work
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Hi Frank,
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 08:04:13PM +0200, Frank wrote:
> I've seen that my domU is only booting if I set "loop max_loop=3D64" in=
=20
> /etc/modules. The default is "max=3D8" right? I don't use more than 8 loo=
p=20
> devices. So I want to know where they are. It's not possible to see it=20
> with losetup -a. The etch losetup doesn't has the -a option.
I'm sorry that I cannot answer your question, but I would recommend
that you not use loop devices at all for xen, and instead do LVM
volumes or tap:aio.
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Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:26:22 +0900
From: Takehiko Abe <keke@gol.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: xterm won't start on AMD K6 with stock 2.6.22-1-486 kernel
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Paul Scott wrote:
> $ stat /dev/ptmx
> [...snip...]
ptmx looks fine to me.
> mountpoint says /dev/pts is not a mount point
You need to mount devpts filesystem at /dev/pts.
pts(4) manpage says:
;; The Linux support for the above (known as Unix98 pty naming) is
;; done using the devpts filesystem, that should be mounted on
;; /dev/pts.
Try something like this (_NOT_TESTED_):
$ sudo mount -t devpts -o uid=0,gid=5,mode=620 devpts /dev/pts
* gid=5 : gid should specify 'tty' group. 5 is tty group on my
system. Please check /etc/group for tty gid for sure.
* Refer to mount manpage. It has section for "Mount options for
devpts".
Note that I've never had to do it myself. My /etc/fstab on a Sarge
system has this entry:
none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
But my lenny box does not have it. I don't know who mounts devpts for
me on lenny (perhaps it's udev but I'm not sure.)
Good luck.
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:54:37 +0530
From: Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Hi where can I get g++ package
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On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 05:50:33AM +0200, isarayunyong wrote:
> Things seem to be going into an infinite loop. What do I do from here. Any
> suggesstion, please?
The best way to solve this problem is:
1. Set your sources.list to a good mirror. That is, my
/etc/apt/sources.list has this line:
deb ftp://10.65.0.42/debian stable main contrib non-free
2. apt-get update
3. apt-get install g++
That's all! APT does all dependency resolution for you.
HTH.
Kumar
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Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:50:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com>
To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Hi where can I get g++ package
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, isarayunyong wrote:
>
> I have the same problem. "Configure error: C compiler cannot create
> executables"
>
> First of all I did not have "gcc" at all. I downloaded and installed
> [b]gcc-4.1_4.1.1-21_i386.deb[/b]. Then I got your heading message. After
> reading your messages I downloaded [b]g++-4.1_4.1.1-21_i386.deb[/b], tried to
> installed with GDebi package installer."Error: Dependency is not satisfiable:
> [b]libstdc++c-4.1-dev[/b]".
>
> So I downloaded [b]libstdc++c-4.1-dev_4.1.1_21_i386.deb[/b],tried to install
> "Error:Dependency is not satisfiable:g++-4.1"
>
> Now I downloaded and tried to install [b]g++-4.1_4.1.1-21_i386.deb[/b]
> "Error:Dependency is not satisfiable: [b]libstdc++6-4.1-dev[/b]"
>
> Things seem to be going into an infinite loop. What do I do from here. Any
> suggesstion, please?
>
>
> --
You can do a :
apt-get install build-essential
and it should grab everything you need. The build-essential package is
meant for , building packages, but it does grab all the requirements for
compiling apps.
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Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 01:01:37 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Hi where can I get g++ package
Message-ID: <46DA51C1.9000300@cox.net>
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On 09/01/07 22:50, isarayunyong wrote:
>
> I have the same problem. "Configure error: C compiler cannot create
> executables"
Same problem as..... who?
> First of all I did not have "gcc" at all. I downloaded and installed
> [b]gcc-4.1_4.1.1-21_i386.deb[/b]. Then I got your heading message. After
> reading your messages I downloaded [b]g++-4.1_4.1.1-21_i386.deb[/b],
> tried to installed with GDebi package installer."Error: Dependency is
> not satisfiable: [b]libstdc++c-4.1-dev[/b]".
>
> So I downloaded [b]libstdc++c-4.1-dev_4.1.1_21_i386.deb[/b],tried to
> install "Error:Dependency is not satisfiable:g++-4.1"
>
> Now I downloaded and tried to install [b]g++-4.1_4.1.1-21_i386.deb[/b]
> "Error:Dependency is not satisfiable: [b]libstdc++6-4.1-dev[/b]"
>
> Things seem to be going into an infinite loop. What do I do from here.
> Any suggesstion, please?
Are you running Stable, Testing or Unstable?
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Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!
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