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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2302

Today's Topics: 

  Re: NMI received, likely on the PCI   [ Anthony Campbell  ]
  Re: SVG broke after installing Pidgi  [ "Mumia W.."  ]
  Extending ext3 root-fs                [ jan.johansson@se.nyklogistics.com ]
  Please introduce a sane way to merge  [ "Richard Hartmann"  ]
  Re: a LaTeX question                  [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  Re: exim4/fetchmail/mutt problem      [ Kumar Appaiah  ]
  Re: SVG broke after installing Pidgi  [ Kumar Appaiah  ]
  mail (un)delivery                     [ michael 

Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:31:32 +0100


From: Anthony Campbell <ac@acampbell.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: NMI received, likely on the PCI bus

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On 02 Sep 2007, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > "NMI received, likely on the PCI bus ..." together with stuff about a
> > hardware problem.
> ...
> > I'm using a Thinkpad Z61M with Sid, kernel 2.6.20.1-slh-smp-2.
> 
> Thinkpads do NMIs and SMIs for system management.  It is likely something
> stupid, thay you should not worry much about.  Try disabling "pci bus power
> saving", see if that helps.  If it does, just reenable it and ignore the
> warning.
> 

I tried this but the error message still appears. However, I now have
more information.



  1.   It does not seem to occur with Ubuntu, only with Sid (actually,
Sidux). And not every time either; about 1 in 3.

  
  2.   I ran the PC Doctor program downloaded from the Lenovo site. This
shows no errors except for the parallel port, but this machine has no
parallel port. I've therefore disabled the parallel support in the BIOS
but I don't know if that will make any difference.

  
  3.   I rang Lenovo support, who predictably said it was a Linux problem,
not a hardware problem.




As everything else is working correctly I think I shall have to ignore
it for the moment, unless or until something else happens.


Do you need help?X

Anthony



-- 
Anthony Campbell - ac@acampbell.org.uk 
Microsoft-free zone - Using Linux Gnu-Debian
http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, 
on-line books and sceptical articles)


Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:43:15 +0300
From: Jabka Atu <mashrom.head@gmail.com>
To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: does anyone work on SMSer ?
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Hello ,..


i wish to create a debian package for SMSer by guySoft i didn't found an
itp for it but maybe someone is working and didn't send one ;-)



-- 
--
Could you at least use man ?
	Jabka Atu (aka mha13/Mashrom Head)
--



Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 03:32:46 -0500
From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: SVG broke after installing Pidgin unstable package
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On 09/03/2007 02:31 AM, Rickard Lindberg wrote:

> Thank you guys for all the information. I might try a dist upgrade to 
> sid, and if that is not working well, I might do a complete reinstall 
> of etch.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience running the 'testing' release? I 
> watched 'The Technology Behind Debian's Testing Release' from google 
> video yesterday, and in the end of the presentation he mentioned that 
> in the future, it might be possible to run a stable release, but at 
> the same time install some packages from unstable. Does anyone know 
> anything about that? When will it be available? Is someone is working 
> on it?
> 
> Again, thanks for all the helpful information.
> 


That can be done now--with some caveats.

I'm using Sarge, but I've installed a very few packages from Etch and 
Lenny; these are mostly Perl (and Python) scripts and documentation, and 
I always use the aptitude interactive environment before installing, 
because I want to see if something will break my system.

So installing scripts and documentation from a different distribution is 
somewhat safe, so long as you avoid compiled programs that require 
compiled libraries.

And I also have installed some packages from the excellent 
www.backports.org (which I need to remember to donate some money to).

However, if there is not an acceptable backport for the software you 
want, and the software is a compiled program that links against compiled 
libraries, and it's in Sid, the only safe way to get that software is to 
compile the source.

You can grab the source using 'apt-get source <packagename>' and compile 
it for your platform. Read "man 8 apt-get" if you haven't already.



Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 03:38:13 -0500
From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: workaround for: xterm won't start on AMD K6 with stock 2.6.22-1-486
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On 09/03/2007 12:56 AM, Paul Scott wrote:

> Takehiko Abe wrote:
> 
> (snip)

>> Note that I've never had to do it myself.  My /etc/fstab on a Sarge
>> system has this entry:
>>
>>     none    /dev/pts    devpts    gid=5,mode=620    0    0

> I will try putting this in my fstab after I send this email.

>> But my lenny box does not have it. I don't know who mounts devpts for
>> me on lenny (perhaps it's udev but I'm not sure.)

> This still leaves the mystery of how it happened and whether the fstab
> entry is the correct Debian solution for sid.
> 


I suspect not, but I don't use Sid. Both my Sarge and Etch systems mount 
/dev/pts through startup scripts in /etc/rcS.d.

Sarge uses S02mountvirtfs, and Etch uses S04mountdevsubfs.sh.

Probably there's a bug in one of Sid's startup scripts.



Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 02:15:17 -0700
From: Bert Schulze <potassium.xyanide@googlemail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Problems regarding sound
Message-ID: <1188810917.293879.312400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
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On 3 Sep., 07:00, "vivek shah" <boni.vi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hello,
>         I am using Debain Etch on my Acer laptop and it was running
> fine till the sound stopped working suddenly. I was playing a movie on
> VLC player and in the middle it just stopped working. After that I
> tried
> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
> but I didnt get any sound.
> I checked that my user was in the group audio and the above command
> didn't give anything as root too.


Uhm ok. Did you check your syslog, dmesg for any suspicious entry that
may indicate a hardware problem?


> I checked with alsamixer and nothing was muted. I ran alsaconf which
> ran successfully but still nothing. Even after rebooting nothing
> happened.

>

> Please note I did no upgrade or package install when this problem
> occured. It just stopped in the middle.
> I checked to see if the sound-card had shorted out and so I ran Ubuntu
> 7.04 Live CD and I got the startup sounds in that.


You could compare the kernel modules in debian with those ones ubuntu
live cd to see which modules are loaded for your card. Try to rmmod
and modprobe them again or mebbe some are missing. If nothing happens
id try to rebuild the corresponding kernel modules. The last step
would be download sources and compile them in.


> Please suggest what should I do

>

> Regards,
> Vivek

Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:30:22 +0200
From: Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: SVG broke after installing Pidgin unstable package
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Hi.

Kumar Appaiah, 03.09.2007 09:44:

> On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 09:31:27AM +0200, Rickard Lindberg wrote:

>> Does anyone have any experience running the 'testing' release? I
>> watched 'The Technology Behind Debian's Testing Release' from google
>> video yesterday, and in the end of the presentation he mentioned that
>> in the future, it might be possible to run a stable release, but at
>> the same time install some packages from unstable. Does anyone know
>> anything about that? When will it be available? Is someone is working
>> on it?
>=20

> You can, even now, try putting testing in your sources.list and try to
> move to testing. Testing is also a trifle better than instable because
> the secutiry team now gives security updates for testing as
> well.


Well, Unstable gets security updates too, only as regular package updates=
=2E


> Added advantage: it gets all newer packages from unstable after
> 10 days of no critical bug reports in unstable.


This is an added disadvantage for me, since it also can take 10 or more d=
ays
until a fix can enter Testing where it is fixed sometimes on the same day=
 in
Unstable.


> In a sense, testing (now lenny) may be just the right balance you are
> looking for, but YMMV.


Agreed.


Regards, Mathias

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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:30:19 +0200
From: jan.johansson@se.nyklogistics.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Extending ext3 root-fs
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Hello!

I am running Debian 4.0 64bit on an Opteron.
My disks are two RAID5 on a IPC VOrtex controller (gdth).

My / is becoming a bit to small (Mostly stuff in /lib), so i extended it 
with

 lvextend -L +200M /dev/Debian/root

Now, to resize the fs i intend to boot from a knoppix-live CD and then use 
resize2fs to resize the fs.

Am i missing anything? might i screw up GRUB or anything else like this?
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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:11:00 +0200
From: "Richard Hartmann" <richih.mailinglist@gmail.com>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, andy@lug.org.uk,
	ron.l.johnson@cox.net
Subject: Please introduce a sane way to merge config file differences during package installation
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Package: debconf
Version: 1.5.14
Severity: Wishlist

Everyone will know a message like this:

Configuration file `/etc/sysctl.conf'
 ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
 ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
  What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
   Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
   N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
     D     : show the differences between the versions
     Z     : background this process to examine the situation
 The default action is to keep your current version.
*** sysctl.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?

What I would want is something like

M: merge files interactively

which would then call vimdiff, probably via $DIFF_EDITOR
or some other variable if something like it does already exist.

For discussion that might happen in the initial thread, look
into the debian-user archive [1]. I am CC'ing the list and
interested parties so they will see the bug, as well.


Richard

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/09/msg00101.html
Do you need more help?X

Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:26:19 -0400
From: "Thomas H. George" <lists@tomgeorge.info>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: exim4/fetchmail/mutt problem
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Kumar Appaiah wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 06:16:05PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
>   

>>> Does /var/log/mail.log say to where the messages were delivered?
>>>
>>> 	Ben
>>>   
>>>       
>> It says connection refused by 127.0.0.1
>>     
>

> What is the output of mailq?

>

> Kumar
>   

exim: permission denied.

In ./usr/sbin exim is a symlink to exim4.  exim is owned by root:root 
with 777 permissions.  exim4 was owned by root:tom with 731 
permissions.  I changed the permissions to 777 but this did not correct 
the problem.  I still got exim: permission denied when I executed mailq 
as user tom.  mailq works for root.

Tom



Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:50:19 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: SVG broke after installing Pidgin unstable package
Message-ID: <20070903125019.GA6301@titan.hooton>
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On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 09:11:57PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 

> You're right: it depends on if big honkers like openoffice,
> iceweasel, icedove, celestia-common, "gcc" or any of the other
> myriad Big Packages are being upgraded.
> 
> Today, there's about 120MB of data to download.
> 


About 17 hrs of download, or about 3 days worth.

Doug.



Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:35:08 -0500
From: John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: SVG broke after installing Pidgin unstable package
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Kumar writes:

> You can, even now, try putting testing in your sources.list and try to
> move to testing.


Good idea.


> Testing is also a trifle better than instable because the secutiry team
> now gives security updates for testing as well. Added advantage: it gets
> all newer packages from unstable after 10 days of no critical bug reports
> in unstable.


More important advantage: packages do not migrate to testing until all
their dependencies can be satisfied.

You can handle security updates by installing the fixed package from Sid.

-- 
John Hasler



Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:04:41 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: a LaTeX question
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On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 08:34:10AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:

> On 02 Sep 2007, Richard Lyons wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, I had spotted that it was installed on mine too.  texdoctk was new
> > to me, though.  I had to install perl-tk and tetex-doc, but after that,
> > --wow!  There is a lot of additional information there!  
> > 
> > Thanks Douglas
> > 
> 
> Indeed. This amazingly useful tool should be more widely noted; I'd
> never heard of it.


I had never used tetex before but for a while when Etch was testing (and
I had to use Etch on my new box), Lout wasn't available so I took the
plunge (including a 10 day download).  Apropos is your friend; I just
browsed all the results of apropos tex.

Doug.



Date:  Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:00:28 +0100
From: bob <freddybase@inbox.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: capture real audio stream
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Lorenzo Bettini wrote:


> cothrige wrote:

>> This is pretty easy if you have either mplayer or audacity installed.
>> If you happen to be playing from BBC 7 it is particularly easy, and all
>> you have to do is right click on the listen link and save the ram file
>> to your drive.  Then you just read it as it is plain text, and inside
>> you will find something like:
>> 
>>
rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/bbc7/0930_sun.ra?BBC-UID=34f67dd2ff9daa4baac9cd5c20f0b659244a9c75a07060437bfa8149d4698951&SSO2-UID=
>> 

> 
> I'm trying with this one
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/musicclub/events_andrewlloydwebber.shtml
> 
> and can't find such links, not even with Page Info (as suggested by
> Joachim); could it be they changed something in their site?
> 

>> 
>> BTW, if all of that fails for some reason then you can always open
>> audacity (before the audio player to make sure your sound card is
>> available for recording), adjust your input to volume and set the volume
>> levels.  Then you can open the browser and start the player, and begin
>> the recording in audacity.  This will record the stream as a wav as
>> well, though if your signal drops out you will have to clean up any
>> silent patches in the file.  The mplayer way is much, much better as it
>> will automatically correct any failures in the feed and so the resulting
>> file will have no blank patches in it, so I really would recommend that
>> way first.

> 
> I'll also try with audacity, but I'd like to use mplayer as you suggest...
> 
> thanks in advance
> Lorenzo
> 

The reason you couldn't find the link was that you need to click on the
left hand side - the grey "Now Playing" section.  This is a separate frame
from the rest of the page and obviously gives different results to the right
hand side, when using Firefox/Iceweasel's View Page Info.  The media tab
now shows the required link:

  /radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio2/fridaymusic.rpm

Append this to the BBC website address and use curl in a terminal window to
identify the direct 
realaudio link, ie: 

  curl http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio2/fridaymusic.rpm

The BBC isn't deliberately hiding the link - some pages come with a "Open in
standalone player" link, others don't.

I would also reiterate the need for saving the stream in .wav format as
there is usually dross (news/announcements etc) at the beginning and end of
the file that needs deleting.  This is best done on the lossless .wav file
rather than the lossy .mp3 - the latter is akin to re-editing a jpg file. 
And the source audio isn't exactly CD quality to start with.
Audacity does a good job and offers many editing options and features.

To avoid having to remember the lengthy mplayer command line switches, I
generally record the stream then convert it, ie:

  mplayer -dumpstream URL         (this is .ra format and can be played with
helix/realplayer)
  mplayer -ao pcm stream.dump     (this is .wav format and can be opened in
audacity)

Incidently, others have already created direct links to many of the BBC
progs, see:

  http://www.2blu.co.uk
  http://beebotron.timeforabrew.com/#listenagainlinks

Funnily enough, your Friday Night is Music Night link is different in
each! Oh well, that's why we're using Linux - choice!

HTH

Cotton



Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:27:10 +0530
From: Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: exim4/fetchmail/mutt problem
Message-ID: <20070903125710.GA10756@localhost>
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On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 08:26:19AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:

> In ./usr/sbin exim is a symlink to exim4.  exim is owned by root:root with 
> 777 permissions.  exim4 was owned by root:tom with 731 permissions.  I 
> changed the permissions to 777 but this did not correct the problem.  I 
> still got exim: permission denied when I executed mailq as user tom.  mailq 
> works for root.


OK, I meant su;mailq or sudo mailq.

You should be able to run mailq as root. Otherwise, you have a
problem. For me, it's just a symbolic link to /usr/sbin/exim4.

Kumar
-- 
Kumar Appaiah,
458, Jamuna Hostel,
Indian Institute of Technology Madras,
Chennai - 600 036



Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:28:45 +0530
From: Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: SVG broke after installing Pidgin unstable package
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On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 12:30:22PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote:

> This is an added disadvantage for me, since it also can take 10 or more days
> until a fix can enter Testing where it is fixed sometimes on the same day in
> Unstable.


Finally, it all depends only on one thing: you! What you want decides
your choice. But I think it's just because you tried sid that you
decided to stay with it. So, others can also try if they have the time
(and a little courage :-). But believe me, it's NOT unstable!

Kumar
-- 
Kumar Appaiah,
458, Jamuna Hostel,
Indian Institute of Technology Madras,
Chennai - 600 036



Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:12:42 +0100
From: michael <cs@networkingnewsletter.org.uk>
To: Debian User Mailing List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: mail (un)delivery
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I'm feeling a bit dense today so any help welcome!

Essentially, I've just noticed that local mail hasn't been delivered for
a couple of weeks. I can email off my box but not to my username on the
box. I can't see what the problem is. They are probably both a red
herring [1] but (a) I did have some DNS problems just prior to the last
received email and (b) switched off the box and physically moved it to a
new location (and the new IP number) just after the last received email.

I'm unsure how to go about debugging this so all pointers welcome!

Thanks, Michael


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring
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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:47:31 -0500
From: Cousin Stanley <cousinstanley@hotmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Shut down or leave on?
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> Yes, that=B4s right but if you have to perform many operations=20
> maybe the "echo" + "bc" form is quite faster
> ....=20


Felix ....=20

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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:26:07 +0800
From: "=?GB2312?B?06a4u8P5?=" <fmying@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Problems with text file going from Linux to MS Windows
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On 9/3/07, G.W. Haywood <ged@jubileegroup.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi there,

>

> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 Matus UHLAR wrote:

>

> > On 21.07.07 10:46, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> > > If I want to send a text file to an MS Windows user there are problems:
> in
> > > fact, in MS Windows a text file which has been composed under Linux is
> not
> > > correctly read: the line ends are not recognised.
> >
> > how do you transfer those files? FTP has ASCII transfer which translates
> > line ends correctly and mail has also well-defined line ends, so all mail
> > clients know how to convert.
> >
> > It can be a problem when you edit the same file on the same disk using
> > different editors, but meny editors support both line ends...
> >
> > > The remedy is to cut the text and paste it into an MS Word file, then
> cut
> > > it again and re-paste it into the text file, which is not so good
> because
> > > this way I need rebooting every time into the Windows partition.

>

> No, the remedy is to use the proper tool.  You're looking for 'todos'
> or one of its aliases.  However, so was I on this newly-installed
> Debian system of mine...

>

> tornado:~# >>> man todos
> No manual entry for todos
> tornado:~# >>> apt-cache search todos
> ...
> sysutils - Miscellaneous small system utilities - dummy package
> tofrodos - Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos
> ...
> tornado:~# >>> apt-get install sysutils
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   memtester procinfo tofrodos
> The following NEW packages will be installed
>   memtester procinfo sysutils tofrodos
> 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B/83.4kB of archives.
> After unpacking 336kB of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
> Media Change: Please insert the disc labelled
>  'Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
> 20070407-12:15'
> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
> Selecting previously deselected package memtester.
> (Reading database ... 86755 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking memtester (from .../memtester_2.93.1-3.1_amd64.deb) ...
> Selecting previously deselected package procinfo.
> Unpacking procinfo (from .../procinfo_18-1_amd64.deb) ...
> Selecting previously deselected package tofrodos.
> Unpacking tofrodos (from .../tofrodos_1.7.6-2_amd64.deb) ...
> Selecting previously deselected package sysutils.
> Unpacking sysutils (from .../sysutils_2.0.1_all.deb) ...
> Setting up memtester (2.93.1-3.1) ...
> Setting up procinfo (18-1) ...
> Setting up tofrodos (1.7.6-2) ...
> Setting up sysutils (2.0.1) ...
> tornado:~# >>> man tofrodos
> No manual entry for tofrodos
> tornado:~# >>> man tofromdos
> No manual entry for tofromdos
> tornado:~# >>> man -k tofromdos
> tofromdos: nothing appropriate.
> tornado:~# >>> man -k tofrodos
> tofrodos: nothing appropriate.
> tornado:~# >>> man procinfo
> Reformatting procinfo(8), please wait...
> tornado:~# >>> tofrodos
> -su: tofrodos: command not found
> tornado:/usr/bin# >>> man fromdos
> Reformatting fromdos(1), please wait...

>

> Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaarrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Is there a bugzilla for man pages?

>

> --

>

> 73,
> Ged.

>
>

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Hmmmm, when you install the package tofrodos, the command(s) wil not
be tofrodos or the similar ones, but these two: dos2unix and unix2dos.
dos2unix transfers the file format from MS Windows (DOS) to Unix
(Linux), and unix 2dos do the reverse.

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