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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2306

Today's Topics: 

  Re: [SOLVED] mail (un)delivery        [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  Re: flac and wav                      [ "H.S."  ]
  Re: nvidia-glx redux...               [ David Baron  ]
  hard disk crash revisiited            [ steef  ]
  Re: How to pipe from python script t  [ Freddy Freeloader  ]
  Two Xorg processes?                   [ Davide Mancusi  ]
  Re: Grub boot of new install.         [ "john@wexfordpress.com"  ]
  Re: crontab -e                        [ Mathias Brodala  ]
  Re: crontab -e                        [ "Jan C. Nordholz"  ]

Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:45:05 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: [SOLVED] mail (un)delivery 

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On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 08:25:39PM +0100, michael wrote:  

> aha, if i set
> dc_other_hostnames='ratty.phy.umist.ac.uk' (ie not just 'ratty')
> (using dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config's screen "enter a ;-sep list of
> recipient domains for which this machine should consider itself final
> dest") then mail is delivered from local account to local account
>
> phew!

YaHOOO! (so to speak)

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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:48:15 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: nvidia-glx redux... 

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On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 01:54:02PM -0500, ZephyrQ wrote:  >
> > Current error message says
> > "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module"
> > which lead me to the question about kernels...
>
> Did some double checking. I'm running on 2.6.18-5-486. The nvidia
> kernel module is the one for 2.6.18-4-486. Installing the module for
> 5-486 will probably help...

:-))

>
> ...so dumb question. Running the AMD Duron (1.3), which is better:
> the i486, the i686, or the k7 modules (and kernel)?
>

The more specific the better. I don't know the Duron. I'm assuming that its not amd64. Will it run k7?

Doug.

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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:53:19 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Disk usage 

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On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 02:07:01PM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> root@etch:/# du --max-depth=1 -h
> 1.7G ./var
> 32K ./tmp
> 4.0K ./selinux
> 16K ./lost+found
> 16M ./boot
> 852K ./home
> 0 ./sys
> 4.0K ./initrd
> 22M ./etc
> 81M ./lib
> 515M ./proc
> 6.3G ./root
> 3.3M ./sbin
> 3.7M ./bin
> 8.0K ./media
> 8.0K ./mnt
> 208K ./dev
> 4.0K ./opt
> 1.3G ./usr
> 4.0K ./srv
> 9.7G .
>
>
> root@etch:/# df -H
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda3 18G 17G 68M 100% /
> tmpfs 265M 0 265M 0% /lib/init/rw
> udev 11M 54k 11M 1% /dev
> tmpfs 265M 0 265M 0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda2 192M 22M 160M 13% /boot
>
> Why is du telling me that I'm using 9.7G of the disk while df says I'm using
> over 17G?
>
 

Try running
/# du -c -h --max-depth=1 /*

The -c will give a grand total. Without it, its telling you that you have 9.7G in the root directory itself. Also, use df -h. -H is --si. With one, multiples of a thousand are 1000, with the other they are 1024. You may as well compare apples XOR oranges.

Doug.

Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:56:45 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Grub boot of new install. 

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On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:29:08AM -0700, john@wexfordpress.com wrote:  

Can't find what you're looking for?X

> Both Debian and Ubuntu show this peculiar trait. When I boot and
> select the first choice from the grub menu the OS goes into a loop. I
> sign on and then it does another hard boot ultimaely preenting me the
> rub menu again. . But the single user boot seems to work. However it
> is as advertised, just single user.

There will be somthing starting up in /etc/rc2.d that causes the reboot. Shouldn't happen.

I'm assuming that before it reboots you see something like "entering run level 2"? If not, I suppose it could be something as simple as /etc/inittab having an initdefault of 0 or 6.

Doug.

Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:03:36 -0500
From: ZephyrQ <zephyrq@earthlink.net>
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: nvidia-glx redux... 

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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 01:54:02PM -0500, ZephyrQ wrote:
> >

>>>    Current error message says
>>>        "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module"
>>>            which lead me to the question about kernels...
>> 	Did some double checking.  I'm running on 2.6.18-5-486.  The nvidia 
>> kernel module is the one for 2.6.18-4-486.  Installing the module for 
>> 5-486 will probably help...

>
> :-))
> 
>> 	...so dumb question.  Running the AMD Duron (1.3), which is better: 
>> 	the i486, the i686, or the k7 modules (and kernel)?
>>

>
> The more specific the better. I don't know the Duron. I'm assuming
> that its not amd64. Will it run k7?

        Again, did some research. The Duron is an Athlon fork (?). So it should run k7. But other than installing the nvidia kernel specific to what I am running now, I'll save the kernel tweaking for another extended weekend.... ;->

Don't know where to look next?X

        Thanx again.

Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:19:22 -0400
From: "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: flac and wav 

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Adam Hardy wrote:
> Marko Randjelovic on 12/08/07 16:52, wrote:

>> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> Hmmm.  I don't know why I automatically assumed (yeah, yeah, I know)
>>> was a Windows app.  :(
>>>
>>> Anyway, rezound in Unstable is a beta version (0.12.2beta-10), and
>>> quite an early version.  Maybe that's why there are bugs.  Also, it
>>> seems to use OSS instead of ALSA.  Not encouraging.
>>>
>>> I'd look for it's home page on the internet and see how actively
>>> it's developed and what it's future plans are.
>>>
>>
>> Rezound is also in Etch, version 0.12.2beta-8 (earlier). Anyway,
>> Audacity should be fine for the purpose.

>
> Audacity is v1.2.4b-2.1
>
> Is that not also beta?
>
>

It is. I have experienced crashes when I was trying to "repair" some saturated samples. A series of do's and undo's caused it to crash. Other than that, it has never crashed.

I frequently use it to process live recordings (label each track, export each track to flac and to ogg, make CD's from flac (k3b) and put ogg's on a website). Never crashed during these normal operations. Oh, another thing. If you choose to "export multiple ..." the various labels, the resulting windows says "exporting the whole project", which is wrong. But the exports are correct though.

->HS

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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:39:10 +0300
From: David Baron <d_baron@012.net.il>
To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: nvidia-glx redux... 

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Using nvidia's own installer will likely work first time every time. (You will have to restore the symlink on xorg updates if you do not change the directories).

The first time I tried Debian's modules, it did not work. Later on, they did but with a lower frame rate. In any event, use m-a (module assistant) and compile against your kernel sources (or headers which need be installed) rather than look for any precompiled modules. This should work.

Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:48:46 +0000
From: steef <steefvanduin@zonnet.nl>
To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: hard disk crash revisiited 

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dear florian, pinneped and others,

thanks to your help (and some further study of myself) did I succeed this afternoon in recovering 50GB of data from a completely crashed hd (see a former thread).
dd_rescue and fsck did the job in this case.

thanks again for all your help for which i am deeply grateful

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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:58:59 -0700
From: Freddy Freeloader <fredddy@cableone.net> To: Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: How to pipe from python script to system process that script  starts 

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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:48:48AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
>
> 

>> Now on to the next step, to figure out a way to poll for stdin, pass 
>> that to exim, and process the message(thaw or remove it) based on what I 
>> read in the header.
>>

> 
>

> Before we get too far down the garden path with this, what is the big
> issue? I'm on dialup. I've never had to deal with removing messages
> from the queue since I have exim run with -qqff which automatically
> thaws the list every time it runs. After enough retries, exim returns
> the message to sender. Then again, I'm going to a smarthost.
>

> Under what circumstances would you need to manually remove a message
> from the queue?
>

> As for polling stdin, why? What will it get from stdin?
>

> Doug.
>
>

>

Mainly the issue is learning to use python.

What I want the script to read from stdin in will be my choice to either thaw the message or remove it from the queue. And, yes, I know Exim will delete anything in the queue after so many tries to deliver it. This is more a learning project than anything else at this point. I'm a newbie exim admin and a newbie to python, and I'm just wanting to make sure all frozen messages have nothing to do my acl's, and learn something about python at the same time.

So, if you don't like my dinky little Python project all I can say is, stop replying. It's my time, and my energy being put into it. If you don't want to help any further, don't. I'll get my answers elsewhere, and there will be no hard feelings on my part....

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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:13:11 -0400
From: Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: can't play Flash anymore
Message-Id: <200709032113.l83LDBvr030729@syrano.acb.uc.edu>

I'm quite perplexed. I have two Etch machines, and on each of them, Flash recently stopped working. It worked on both within the past month.

I have these packages installed: 

  flashplayer-mozilla   9.0.48.0-0.2   Macromedia Flash Player
  libflash-mozplugin    0.4.13-8       GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin
  libflash0c2           0.4.13-8       GPL Flash (SWF) Library - shared library

and these files:
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root     856 2007-06-19 20:31 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15348 2006-07-25 10:22 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so   -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7029820 2007-08-31 07:10 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so 
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      37 2007-09-01 09:55 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/flashplayer.xpt -> ../../mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      46 2007-03-16 17:04 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so -> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      39 2007-09-01 09:55 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libflashplayer.so -> ../../mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so

  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      18 2007-01-21 09:33 /usr/lib/libflash.so.0 -> libflash.so.0.13.0
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 199996 2006-07-25 10:22 /usr/lib/libflash.so.0.13.0

If I do "about:plugins" from iceweasel, I see

    File name: libflash-mozplugin.so
    Flash Movie player Version 0.4.12 compatible with Shockwave Flash 4.0

    File name: libflashplayer.so
    Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48

But if I try to run any Flash movie, I get sent to Adobe to download the "newest" Flash. This turns out to be 9.0.48.0, which I already have. For the heck of it, I unpacked that anyway. flashplayer.xpt was identical to what I already have. libflashplayer.so was not, but installing that didn't help.

As tests, I've been trying anything at youtube or at the Flash showcase:

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  http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm

Youtube videos all seem to fail, and then iceweasel crashes too. Any ideas what's gone wrong? Thanks.

Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:26:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Felix Karpfen <felixk@webone.com.au> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 21:13:42 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 21:13:42 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 09:17:44PM +0000, Felix Karpfen wrote:

>> Since upgrading from Sarge to Etch, my CPU temperature appears to be
>> running 5-10 deg.C higher;=20
>>=20

SNIP 
>> and I have failed to locate any reference to an acceptable temperature
>> range.
>>=20
>> All advice will be gratefully received.
>=20

> Run top. Do you really have 120 processes actually running? What are
> they if you consider the computer idle?
>
The info came from "KSysGuard" - which, I believe, analyses the "top" data. 
>=20

> I can't even load up my P-II lower than about 60% idle momentarily or
> 80% consistantly. Then again it only has 64 MB ram so to do anything
> big gets into swapping which gives the CPU pleanty of time to rest :)

Looks as though "bigger is not always better". I have 512 MB RAM. My CPU works hard; the swap partition is just a decoration - it never gets used. 

>=20

> My Athlon64 never gets above 35 C, my video card's GPU never above 40C.
> Then again, the internal case temp is ambient =3D=3D 20 C.
Can't find what you're looking for?X

There are some benefit to living in Canada! Here (Australia) our ambient temperatures (and the motherboard temperatures) creep up to the high 30s in summer; now (our Spring) it is 24 deg C and the CPU temperature is (currently) 44 deg C. Yesterday, during a Systems backup, the CPU temperature reached 62 deg C! And the computer still works today! But, one day my luck will run out. 

>=20

> What controlls your fans?

>
I do not think that the fan (I have only one) is the problem. Otherwise the MB temperature would also be higher.

Thank you for sharing your experience,

Felix

--=20
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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:23:05 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to pipe from python script to system process that script starts 

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On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 01:58:59PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:48:48AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> >
> >>Now on to the next step, to figure out a way to poll for stdin, pass
> >>that to exim, and process the message(thaw or remove it) based on what I
> >>read in the header.
> >
> >Before we get too far down the garden path with this, what is the big
> >issue? I'm on dialup. I've never had to deal with removing messages
> >from the queue since I have exim run with -qqff which automatically
> >thaws the list every time it runs. After enough retries, exim returns
> >the message to sender. Then again, I'm going to a smarthost.
> >
> >Under what circumstances would you need to manually remove a message
> >from the queue?
> >
> >As for polling stdin, why? What will it get from stdin?
>
> Mainly the issue is learning to use python.
>
> What I want the script to read from stdin in will be my choice to either
> thaw the message or remove it from the queue. And, yes, I know Exim
> will delete anything in the queue after so many tries to deliver it.
> This is more a learning project than anything else at this point. I'm a
> newbie exim admin and a newbie to python, and I'm just wanting to make
> sure all frozen messages have nothing to do my acl's, and learn
> something about python at the same time.
>
> So, if you don't like my dinky little Python project all I can say is,
> stop replying. It's my time, and my energy being put into it. If you
> don't want to help any further, don't. I'll get my answers elsewhere,
> and there will be no hard feelings on my part....

I'll help this evening (then I'm away for a while). I just wasn't sure what you meant by polling stdin; I thought that perhaps some other process was going to give you the message ID that the script was to process.

Don't know where to look next?X

OK. So you run your script and it gets the list of frozen messages and runs exim4 -Mvh [message-id] which prints out the headers to your screen. Now you just need python to ask what you want to do: [T]haw the message, [R]emove the message, or [D]o nothing. It is vastly easier to get the input as a string where the user would type the choice letter and hit enter than it is to capture the choice letter by itself.

Something like this:

raw_choice = raw_input('[T]thaw the message, [R]emove the message, or [D]o nothing? Enter choice: ')

Now you need to massage raw_choice:

remove whitespace (in case they hit space before a choice letter)

choice = raw_choice.strip()

test only the first char:

choice = raw_choice.strip()[0]

Confused? Frustrated?X

test only the first char as upper case:

choice = raw_choice.strip()[0].upper()

Of course, you could combine all this:

choice = raw_input('[T]haw the message, [R]emove the message, or [D]o nothing? Enter choice: ').strip()[0].upper()

However, that can look a little daunting in the middle of the night. I tend to break it up into getting the user's input, cleaning it up, testing it, then respond to it.

Define a list of valid choices. Since strings are already sequence types:

valid_choices = 'TRD'

Wrap it in a while (1) loop to test for a valid choice:

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if choice in valid_choices:

        break

Then decide if you want to trap exceptions such as Ctrl-C (KeyboardInterrupt). If so, wrap it in a try block and decide how to handle it.

The joy of all this is, you can get the basics working, then add refinements rather than doing it all at once then having a problem. 

--

I have the Python 2.1 Bible.  Its great.  There may be other great
python books out since.  That plus the python docs package are all I've

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ever needed.

When I have a programming problem, I tend to write it out in rough
python as a pseudocode.  However, unless you already know python or
another language, it may be easier to use a flow-chart.  This is one of
the few times that I still recommend flow charts.

Enjoy.

Doug.

Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:45:09 -0400 From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How to bind keys to commands, without requiring login? Message-Id: <20070903184509.c395d303.celejar@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 02:37:58 +0530 "Masatran, R. Deepak" <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in> wrote:
> * Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> 2007-08-30
> > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:27:56 +0530
> > "Masatran, R. Deepak" <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in> wrote:
> > > I want to bind some keys to commands. I can do this using my window manager,
> > > but I want it to work even if (1) Nobody is logged in OR if (2) the screen
> > > is locked with a screen-saver.
> > >
> > > I am using Debian 4.0, with GDM, and Sawfish.
> >
> > Have you tried the standard 'xbindkeys'?
>
> I tried it, but how can I make it work in spite of the screen-saver?
Sorry, it was just a guess; I don't use a screensaver or DM.
> Masatran, R. Deepak <http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/>
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Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:55:36 +0200 From: Davide Mancusi <arekfu@gmail.com> To: Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Two Xorg processes? Message-ID: <46DC90E8.6040608@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have noticed that I have two Xorg processes running, one of which is=20 always stuck at CPU=3D0.0% but nevertheless shows the same memory usage a= s=20 the other process. From top: 3062 root 15 0 132m 59m 7984 S 0.7 5.9 10:34.47 Xorg 3140 root 20 0 132m 59m 7984 S 0.0 5.9 0:00.00 Xorg Is this normal? I am running Sid on AMD64. Snippet from the pstree output: $ pstree root init=E2=94=80=E2=94=AC=E2=94=80acpid [snip] =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80kdm=E2=94=80=E2=94=AC=E2=94=80Xorg=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80Xorg =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80kdm=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80start= kde=E2=94=80=E2=94=AC=E2=94=80kwrapper =E2=94=82 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80seahorse-agent=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80{seahorse-agent} =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80ssh-agent [snip] Xorg spawning itself?! Davide --=20 A tautology is a thing which is tautological. -- Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:27:56 -0700 From: "john@wexfordpress.com" <john@wexfordpress.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Grub boot of new install. Message-ID: <1188862076.645182.80170@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Sep 3, 4:00 pm, "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtu...@porchlight.ca> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:29:08AM -0700, j...@wexfordpress.com wrote:
> > Both Debian and Ubuntu show this peculiar trait. When I boot and
> > select the first choice from the grub menu the OS goes into a loop. I
> > sign on and then it does another hard boot ultimaely preenting me the
> > rub menu again. . But the single user boot seems to work. However it
> > is as advertised, just single user.
>
> There will be somthing starting up in /etc/rc2.d that causes the reboot.
> Shouldn't happen.
>
> I'm assuming that before it reboots you see something like "entering
> run level 2"? If not, I suppose it could be something as simple as
> /etc/inittab having an initdefault of 0 or 6.
>
> Doug.
>
> --
> T
Ah a wierd solution. I found that the usb plug for my scanner was half in and half out. (I just replaced some hardware.) When I seated it properly the boot process righted itself. Onward and upward! John Culleton

Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:50:22 -0400 From: steve <sfreilly@roadrunner.com> To: List Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: can't play Flash anymore Message-ID: <46DC9DBE.8040905@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Kleene wrote:
> I'm quite perplexed. I have two Etch machines, and on each of them, Flash
> recently stopped working. It worked on both within the past month.
>
> I have these packages installed:
> flashplayer-mozilla 9.0.48.0-0.2 Macromedia Flash Player
> libflash-mozplugin 0.4.13-8 GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin
> libflash0c2 0.4.13-8 GPL Flash (SWF) Library - shared library
>
> and these files:
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 856 2007-06-19 20:31 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15348 2006-07-25 10:22 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7029820 2007-08-31 07:10 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
>
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2007-09-01 09:55 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/flashplayer.xpt -> ../../mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 2007-03-16 17:04 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so -> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 2007-09-01 09:55 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libflashplayer.so -> ../../mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
>
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2007-01-21 09:33 /usr/lib/libflash.so.0 -> libflash.so.0.13.0
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 199996 2006-07-25 10:22 /usr/lib/libflash.so.0.13.0
>
> If I do "about:plugins" from iceweasel, I see
> File name: libflash-mozplugin.so
> Flash Movie player Version 0.4.12 compatible with Shockwave Flash 4.0
>
> File name: libflashplayer.so
> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48
>
> But if I try to run any Flash movie, I get sent to Adobe to download the
> "newest" Flash. This turns out to be 9.0.48.0, which I already have. For
> the heck of it, I unpacked that anyway. flashplayer.xpt was identical to
> what I already have. libflashplayer.so was not, but installing that didn't
> help.
>
> As tests, I've been trying anything at youtube or at the Flash showcase:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm
>
> Youtube videos all seem to fail, and then iceweasel crashes too. Any ideas
> what's gone wrong? Thanks.
> >
>
hi, what usually works for me is to unistall and reinstall. never had the problem in etch, dont use x but ubuntu on occasion have the problem and its worked for me. remove and reinstall, dont just download flash again, maybe thatll help..?

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Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:24:16 +0200 From: Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: crontab -e Message-ID: <46DCA5B0.4010209@noctus.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig032DCF46C8DBCCDE989E8626" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig032DCF46C8DBCCDE989E8626 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Raquel. Raquel, 04.09.2007 02:22:
> I have a new install of Etch. When I issue the command
> #crontab -e
> I get the nano editor. I would really rather use the vim editor.=20
> How do I change what gets used?
Set the EDITOR environment variable in the config file of your preferred = shell. (~/.bashrc for Bash) Regards, Mathias --=20 debian/rules --------------enig032DCF46C8DBCCDE989E8626 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG3KWxYfUFJ3ewsJgRAtTeAJ4viVaw/D1gtyl6SDYwsGBOpPgVTgCeJVUB kqlaJzF7C8llCC9hb+rbP6c= =j90E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig032DCF46C8DBCCDE989E8626--

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 02:32:39 +0200 From: "Jan C. Nordholz" <jckn@gmx.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: crontab -e Message-ID: <20070904003239.GA19399@hejre.minidns.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK" Content-Disposition: inline --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Raquel, 04.09.2007 02:22:
> > I have a new install of Etch. When I issue the command
> > #crontab -e
> > I get the nano editor. I would really rather use the vim editor.=20
> > How do I change what gets used?
>=20
> Set the EDITOR environment variable in the config file of your preferred =
shell.
> (~/.bashrc for Bash)
Or, if you want to change the system-wide default, run (as root) ] update-alternatives --config editor Regards, Jan --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG3KenJnGRgaR03R4RAgq7AKDrmckrz8mYlhVEUiJFZl9+lUe3uQCgkQzs RtejW0B0KxwOEl4LCpuJV4U= =kaQQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK-- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2306 ************************************************** Received on Mon Sep 3 20:40:49 2007

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