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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2308

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Help                              [ Jude DaShiell  ]
  Re: Thinking about devoting a seriou  [ Bhasker C V  ]
  Re: etch : system hangs               [ Bhasker C V  ]
  Re: browser confusions                [ Johannes Wiedersich 

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 06:53:05 +0000 (GMT)
From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
To: Mostafijur Rahman <mostafijur_embedded@yahoo.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Help


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As root, type tasksel and hit return. Arrow down to desktop environment 
and hit space bar once.  If you see a star appear to the left of desktop 
environment you've selected it.  Next, hit return to tell tasksel to work. 
It should download several packages for you.  When the root prompt 
returns, type shutdown -r now.  If all goes well, you'll come up in a 
desktop environment which is windows user's favorite part of linux.





On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Mostafijur Rahman wrote:


> Hello
> Im new in Debian.I install Debian from my ISO CD.But I got  only  Text mode.How I can get  GUI  mode? Please feedback me step by step.It will be better for me.
>
> Thanks from mostafij
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
> Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
Do you need help?X

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:51:56 -0500


From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Cc: "Nelson A. de Oliveira" <naoliv@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Where and how do I install a TTF font?

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On 09/03/2007 12:20 PM, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:

> Nelson A. de Oliveira:
>> Mumia W..:
>>> See if you can get the barcode font embedded in the PDF file.
>> The PDF is generated by a third part online system that we use here.
>> We don't have control over the PDF.
>> We want to change all machines running Windows to Linux, but the only 
>> missing thing is this barcode font on the PDFs. Windows displays them 
>> correctly while we couldn't make it works on Linux :-/
> 
> I work at a printshop where I have tools to take a closer look at the 
> pdf. It appears that *none* of the fonts are included or embedded. 
> These are: Times New Roman, Times New Roman Bold, Arial, Arial Bold, 
> Arial Bold Italic, Bar25if.  So none of these fonts are guaranteed to 
> look like the original on your screen.
> Moreover, Bar25if could not be embedded due to "licensing limitations".
> 
> This means that the pdf is simply a bad one, and not acceptable!  All 
> fonts should be included, so the pdf will display well on a system where 
> these fonts are not installed.  That is precisely the purpose of a pdf.
> 
> What I could do is to turn all characters into outlines ('vectorize' 
> the characters) so no fonts are needed, and make a new pdf out of this. 
> It's a big one: 4.3 MB, but if you can use it, get it with this command:
> 
>     wget http://home.kpnplanet.nl/~shiems@kpnplanet.nl/giap.pdf
> 
> I suppose you could also do this with programs like pdfedit and 
> inkscape.
> 
> 

I've learned a lot more about fonts over the last couple of days than I 
ever wanted to know. And it's all to help someone with a problem that I 
don't have :-)



I was also able to create a version of giap.pdf with the barcode font 
rendered into the file. I hope it doesn't violate the distribution 
restrictions. I actually don't know if the font is rendered or embedded, 
but I do know what I did to create the new version of the file.



First here is the file: 

http://home.earthlink.net/~mumia.w.18.spam/giap3.pdf (272K)



I used ghostscript (gs-gpl). I set GS_FONTPATH to the directory in which 
Bar25if.ttf was located, and then I ran ghostscript with appropriate 
options:



export GS_FONTPATH=$PWD


gs -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=giap3.pdf giap.pdf
unset GS_FONTPATH


Do you need more help?X

Sjored, please tell me if this was done appropriately (not violating the 
license). I was hoping to get ghostscript to "vectorize" the barcode 
glyphs, but I really don't know /what/ ghostscript did.



Xpdf, evince and kpdf all show the barcodes just fine 8-)



Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:02:29 -0500


From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: browser confusions

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On 09/04/2007 01:28 AM, Bhasker C V wrote:

> All,
> 
>  There are multiple browsers in my system (Etch). 
>  Icescape
>  firefox
>  mozilla
> 
>  but what is the difference between these ? I can see that these are
> sharing the information between each other (bookmarks etc.,) 
> 
>  I am using opera for all my normal browsing but using icescape for my
> banking related browsing. Among the once if there is a differnece, which
> one is the most secure ?
> 
> please advice,
> 
> 

Since you didn't provide the version numbers for the applications you 
presented, I can only offer general advice.



Iceape and Firefox are split-offs from Mozilla. So long as you update 
your system regularly, Iceape will be the most secure.


Can we help you?X

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:52:28 +0530


From: Bhasker C V <bhasker@unixindia.com>
To: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
Cc: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: browser confusions

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Hi,


On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 02:02 -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:

> On 09/04/2007 01:28 AM, Bhasker C V wrote:
> > All,
> > 
> >  There are multiple browsers in my system (Etch). 
> >  Icescape
> >  firefox
> >  mozilla
> > 
> >  but what is the difference between these ? I can see that these are
> > sharing the information between each other (bookmarks etc.,) 
> > 
> >  I am using opera for all my normal browsing but using icescape for my
> > banking related browsing. Among the once if there is a differnece, which
> > one is the most secure ?
> > 
> > please advice,
> > 
> > 
> 
> Since you didn't provide the version numbers for the applications you 
> presented, I can only offer general advice.

The versions are 


iceape:


Iceape 1.0.8, Copyright (c) 2003-2006 mozilla.org, build 2007021704
firefox:


Mozilla Iceweasel 2.0.0.3, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2007 mozilla.org



> 
> Iceape and Firefox are split-offs from Mozilla. So long as you update 
> your system regularly, Iceape will be the most secure.

I am not connected to internet always. How do i apply these updates
offline by downloading ? 

> 
> 
> 
-- 
Bhasker C V
Registered Linux user: #306349 (counter.li.org)
The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I installed Linux.


Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:04:47 +0530
From: Bhasker C V <bhasker@unixindia.com>
To: blues <bluesbravo@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...
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On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 03:13 +0000, blues wrote:

> I would really love to become a good sys admin;  linux is very
> interesting to me as a popular alternative to the crap business model
> of MS.....i like the idea of using free software to monitor and
> protect a network, and I hope to make a career out of it...does anyone
> have any tips as to what i should concentrate on?  Is debian a good
> distro to learn if I want to one day run a corporate network?
> 


Try downloading VMWare server on the net. That is free and it can
emulate multiple boxes( I am not starting a fire here on the choice of
the virtual emulator but vmware is a good one to start with IMHO).

Install linux and run atleast 3 instances with no two on the same
network. Assign IP addresses and then try to do what all you can do with
the data. VMWare gives you ease of use to add a harddisk and so you can
just add another 2 hard-disks and try out DM-RAID or LVM, try occupying
one lvm, move lvm data from one disk to other, recover from a lost level
5 raid etc.,

On the networking side, you can try pinging the linux boxes in the other
networks using the linux box with 2 network cards as a router. Try
changing and playing with the ip addresses using iptables , putting
rules, blocking traffic etc.,

on the configuration sied, you can setup radius server, http server and
then try to make then secure by adding some firewall rules which allow
access to only one machine etc., and also setting up usernames and
passwords for accessing a site in apache. 

But yes, make sure you are thorough with compiling kernels and making
them work. Sometimes compilation and adding to grub goes like a breeze
and sometimes you end up finding out what has to be put in the .config
to avoid the kernel-panic while booting ! After this you can try out 
sysadmin things on the kernel side which may be something like
installing a new kernel, trying to play with SCSI disks, etc., 

You can work on the booting process and try writing a /etc/rc.X init
script which gets called during the bootup of the box from init
scripts. 

Last but not least, get back to this group if you have isses and i am
sure many people in the group will be glad to help you with your issues
in linux.


> 

-- 
Bhasker C V
Registered Linux user: #306349 (counter.li.org)
The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I installed Linux.



Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:08:26 +0530
From: Bhasker C V <bhasker@unixindia.com>
To: Mridul Manohar Mishra <mridulmmishra@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: etch : system hangs
Message-Id: <1188891506.7504.22.camel@h1.unixindia.com>
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Hi,

 If there is some junk in the screen and the keyboard (Num lock toggle)
is not respoding then the kernel has crashed. This may be because of
variuos reasons. The main probable reason can be memory. Use memcheck in
the CD to check all the memory fully with all permutations and
combinations shown by the memcheck. 
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 00:33 +0530, Mridul Manohar Mishra wrote:

> Hi,
>    I am using following configuration as my hardware -:
> PIII 700 MHz
> 128 MB SDRAM
> no graphics card
> 
> It shows 5080 as free.
> I am using debian 4.0 and it's my first time with debian based distro.
> I am facing a weird problem. My system either hangs or screen gets
> filled with vertical coloerd lines (like thin copper wires).
> Previously I thought It was related to gnome so i switched to xfce but
> the problem remains. This occures every now or then randomly. 
> I a not sure whether it's a hardware or software problem and how to
> catagorise this problem in either of them. Can anyone please help me
> out?
> 
> Thanx,
> Mridul

-- 
Bhasker C V
Registered Linux user: #306349 (counter.li.org)
The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I installed Linux.



Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:03:43 +0200
From: Johannes Wiedersich <johannes@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: browser confusions
Message-ID: <46DD115F.5070804@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>
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Mumia W.. wrote:
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> Iceape and Firefox are split-offs from Mozilla. So long as you update
> your system regularly, Iceape will be the most secure.


firefox is rebranded as iceweasel on debian.

How do you come to the conclusion that firefox/iceweasel is less secure
than iceape?

Johannes
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Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:42:43 +0100
From: Chris Lale <chrislale@untrammelled.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Problems regarding sound
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vivek shah wrote:

> hello,
>         I am using Debain Etch on my Acer laptop and it was running
> fine till the sound stopped working suddenly. I was playing a movie on
> VLC player and in the middle it just stopped working. After that I
> tried
> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
> but I didnt get any sound.
> I checked that my user was in the group audio and the above command
> didn't give anything as root too.
> 
> I checked with alsamixer and nothing was muted. I ran alsaconf which
> ran successfully but still nothing. Even after rebooting nothing
> happened.
> 
> Please note I did no upgrade or package install when this problem
> occured. It just stopped in the middle.
> I checked to see if the sound-card had shorted out and so I ran Ubuntu
> 7.04 Live CD and I got the startup sounds in that.
> 
> Please suggest what should I do
> 


It seems that alsaconf is no longer supported by Debian developers (see bug
432678) and that running it can cause sound to stop working.

There was a previous thread [2] in which OSS apps running under ALSA stopped
working (eg XMMS, Audacity, etc). Check that /dev/dsp exists; if not check that
the snd_pcm_oss is loaded:

	# file /dev/dsp
	/dev/dsp: ERROR: cannot open `/dev/dsp' (No such file or directory)
	
	# modprobe snd_pcm_oss
	
	# file /dev/dsp
	/dev/dsp: character special (14/3)

Apparently, you must NOT use alsaconf but you must rely on udev instead. So a
reboot should fix the system, although it did not in your case. Perhaps you have
two sound cards and one has gone on the blink? [3]

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432678
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00454.html
[3]
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Sound_in_Debian_GNU/Linux#Some_applications_.28OSS_applications.29_produce_no_sound_in_ALSA


-- 
Chris.



Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 04:43:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>
To: michael@estone.ca
Cc: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: s.m.a.r.t problem
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On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, michael@estone.ca wrote:


> Hello,
>
> I have an sda (seagate ST3320620NS) drive that is split into a few paritions, 
> of which,
> all are configured into corresponding raid 0 arrays via mdadm.
>
> Below is the output of:
> # smartctl -A -d ata /dev/sda
>
> smartctl version 5.36 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce 
> Allen
> Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
>
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
> Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED 
> WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
> 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   116   087   006    Pre-fail  Always 
> -       104941331
> 3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   096   095   000    Pre-fail  Always 
> -       0
> 4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always 
> -       28
> 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always 
> -       35
> 7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   070   060   030    Pre-fail  Always 
> -       11329220
> 9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always 
> -       975
> 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always 
> -       0
> 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always 
> -       36
> 187 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
> -       0
> 189 Unknown_Attribute       0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
> -       0
> 190 Unknown_Attribute       0x0022   064   049   045    Old_age   Always 
> -       606142500
> 194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   036   051   000    Old_age   Always 
> -       36 (Lifetime Min/Max 0/26)
> 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   086   062   000    Old_age   Always 
> -       235476142
> 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
> -       1
> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline 
> -       1
> 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always 
> -       0
> 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline 
> -       0
> 202 TA_Increase_Count       0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always 
> -       0
>
> Everytime the server reboots, the smart daemon emails me that there are 
> problems, mainly, on ID 197 and 198.
> I've tried to overwrite the paritions with data to the max and fill it so 
> that the drive would re-map the bad sectors, but I still get these errors.
> I haven't completely zero'd the drive as I have these partitions in raid 0 
> arrays and don't wont' to have to destroy the raid array, and thus end up 
> restoring from backup. But I guess this would be my last resort, which I 
> could do at some time during off hours.
>
> Is there anything else I could try to remove these settings from the smart 
> data?
> Is my drive toast?
>
> A smartctl long, or short test shows no bad blocks and no errors ever in its 
> history.
>
> Thanks for any tips!
>
> Cheers,
> Mike


  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always 
-
35

You have 35 re-allocated sectors and 1 pending offline sector, the drive 
is probably on its way out.

Justin.


Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:49:47 -0500
From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: browser confusions
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On 09/04/2007 02:22 AM, Bhasker C V wrote:

> Hi,
> On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 02:02 -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
>> On 09/04/2007 01:28 AM, Bhasker C V wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>>  There are multiple browsers in my system (Etch). 
>>>  Icescape
>>>  firefox
>>>  mozilla
>>>
>>>  but what is the difference between these ? I can see that these are
>>> sharing the information between each other (bookmarks etc.,) 
>>>
>>>  I am using opera for all my normal browsing but using icescape for my
>>> banking related browsing. Among the once if there is a differnece, which
>>> one is the most secure ?
>>>
>>> please advice,
>>>
>>>
>> Since you didn't provide the version numbers for the applications you 
>> presented, I can only offer general advice.
> The versions are 
> iceape:
> Iceape 1.0.8, Copyright (c) 2003-2006 mozilla.org, build 2007021704


Iceape is at 1.0.9 in Etch now--update.


> firefox:
> Mozilla Iceweasel 2.0.0.3, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2007 mozilla.org
> 


Iceweasel is up to date.


> 
>> Iceape and Firefox are split-offs from Mozilla. So long as you update 
>> your system regularly, Iceape will be the most secure.
> I am not connected to internet always. How do i apply these updates
> offline by downloading ? 
>>
>>


I am also not always connected to the Internet. When I need to update, I 
connect to the Internet, perform my updates using aptitude, and 
disconnect from the Internet.

If you are suggesting that your computer cannot be connected to the 
Internet, you can use "apt-zip."

There is also no sin in downloading the updates manually using 'wget', 
moving them to the offline computer via CD-ROM, and installing them 
manually using 'dpkg -i'; just make sure you know what you're doing, and 
only install packages for your distribution and architecture.

But try "apt-zip" first.



Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:56:17 -0500
From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: browser confusions
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On 09/04/2007 03:03 AM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:

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> Mumia W.. wrote:
> [snip]
> 
>> Iceape and Firefox are split-offs from Mozilla. So long as you update
>> your system regularly, Iceape will be the most secure.
> 
> firefox is rebranded as iceweasel on debian.
> 
> How do you come to the conclusion that firefox/iceweasel is less secure
> than iceape?
> 


The only way that Firefox could get onto an Etch system is that the user 
downloaded it from www.mozilla.com and installed it. The user would then 
have to be diligent in checking for updates and installing them whereas 
Iceape would be updated as part of the (regular ?) "apt-get update" 
procedure.

Now that I think about it, Firefox has it own incremental updating 
feature that, if the user hasn't turned it off, will prompt for updates, 
so Firefox 2.0.x should be just about as up-to-date as Iceape.



Date:  Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:36:24 +0100
From: Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: browser confusions
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:49:47 -0500
"Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> wrote:


> On 09/04/2007 02:22 AM, Bhasker C V wrote:


[...]


> > firefox:
> > Mozilla Iceweasel 2.0.0.3, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2007 mozilla.org
> > 
> 
> Iceweasel is up to date.


A more recent iceweasel is available from security.debian.org:

~$ apt-cache policy iceweasel
iceweasel:
  Installed: 2.0.0.6-0etch1
  Candidate: 2.0.0.6-0etch1
  Version table:
 *** 2.0.0.6-0etch1 0
        500 http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2.0.0.3-1 0
        500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/main Packages

Make sure you have the following line in the file /etc/apt/sources.list:

    deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main

-- 

Liam

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