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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2309

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2309

Today's Topics:

  how to use version and debian reviso  [ Jabka Atu  ]
  Re: Acceptable CPU temperature range  [ =?UTF-8?B?SsO2cmctVm9sa2VyIFBlZXR6? ]
  Re: Where and how do I install a TTF  [ "Mumia W.."  ]
  Re: oo 2.2 in lenny?                  [ Sam Leon  ]
  Grub issues on Mac Mini?              [ Charles Turner 

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:17:31 +0300
From: Jabka Atu <mashrom.head@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: how to use version and debian revison

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hello ,..

im trieng to understand the way to use version and debian revison (package smser).

the orignal softwere wasn't made specialy for debian and it's version is 2.

Do you need help?X

as i understand we debian revisions when only the package is changed and not the actual software.

as stated in
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version

5.6.12 Version
 The version number of a package. The format is: [epoch:]upstream_version[-debian_revision]  The three components here are:
epoch
 This is a single (generally small) unsigned integer. It may be omitted, in which case zero is assumed. If it is omitted then the upstream_version may not contain any colons.  It is provided to allow mistakes in the version numbers of older versions of a package, and also a package's previous version numbering schemes, to be left behind.
upstream_version
 This is the main part of the version number. It is usually the version number of the original ("upstream") package from which the .deb file has been made, if this is applicable. Usually this will be in the same format as that specified by the upstream author(s); however, it may need to be reformatted to fit into the package management system's format and comparison scheme.
 The comparison behavior of the package management system with respect to the upstream_version is described below. The upstream_version portion of the version number is mandatory.
 The upstream_version may contain only alphanumerics[33] and the characters . + - : (full stop, plus, hyphen, colon) and should start with a digit. If there is no debian_revision then hyphens are not allowed; if there is no epoch then colons are not allowed. debian_revision
 This part of the version number specifies the version of the Debian package based on the upstream version. It may contain only alphanumerics and the characters + and . (plus and full stop) and is compared in the same way as the upstream_version is.
 It is optional; if it isn't present then the upstream_version may not contain a hyphen. This format represents the case where a piece of software was written specifically to be turned into a Debian package, and so there is only one "debianisation" of it and therefore no revision indication is required.
 It is conventional to restart the debian_revision at 1 each time the upstream_version is increased.
 The package management system will break the version number apart at the last hyphen in the string (if there is one) to determine the upstream_version and debian_revision. The absence of a debian_revision compares earlier than the presence of one (but note that the debian_revision is the least significant part of the version number).  The upstream_version and debian_revision parts are compared by the package management system using the same algorithm:  The strings are compared from left to right.  First the initial part of each string consisting entirely of non-digit characters is determined. These two parts (one of which may be empty) are compared lexically. If a difference is found it is returned. The lexical comparison is a comparison of ASCII values modified so that all the letters sort earlier than all the non-letters.  Then the initial part of the remainder of each string which consists entirely of digit characters is determined. The numerical values of these two parts are compared, and any difference found is returned as the result of the comparison. For these purposes an empty string (which can only occur at the end of one or both version strings being compared) counts as zero.
 These two steps (comparing and removing initial non-digit strings and initial digit strings) are repeated until a difference is found or both strings are exhausted.
 Note that the purpose of epochs is to allow us to leave behind mistakes in version numbering, and to cope with situations where the version numbering scheme changes. It is not intended to cope with version numbers containing strings of letters which the package management system cannot interpret (such as ALPHA or pre-), or with silly orderings (the author of this manual has heard of a package whose versions went 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1, 2.1, 2.2, 2 and so forth).

so as i under stand from the text the version should be : upstreasm_version-debian_version

#6 is the current debian_revison number
so in control file :
Version: 2-6

and in a changelog
package name (2-6) ;....

but when i do that i get the error (from lintian):

W: smser source: native-package-with-dash-version
N:
N:   Native packaging should only be used if a piece of software was
N:   written specifically to be turned into a Debian package. In this case,
N:   the version number should not contain a debian revision part.
N:
N:   Native source packages are sometimes created by accident. In most
N:   cases the reason is the location of the original source tarball.
N:   dpkg-source searches for this in
N:   ../package_upstream-version.orig.tar.gz.
N:

but i don't store the orignal file in this format .

Do you need more help?X

p.s.

control file :

Source: smser
Section: net
Priority: extra
Maintainer: Jabka Atu <>
Build-Depends: debhelper
Standards-Version: 3.7.2

Package: smser
Architecture: all
Depends: centerim
Description: a command-line application that lets you send SMS  messages to a list of phone numbers located in a file.  It places all the messages in the CenterICQ's queue and when CenterICQ  is invoked all the messages are sent to the recipients. Version: 2-6

~cat debian/changelog

smser (2-6) stable; urgency=low

  • fixed lintien errors : dash error - fixed by changing the revsion from -5 to .5
  • fixed the man file (add the option for accounts)
    • Jabka Atu <> Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:27:38 +0300

smser (2.000-3) stable; urgency=low

  • fixed some lintian errors but (still can't fix the 3 warnings): W: smser source: package-uses-deprecated-debhelper-compat-version 1 W: smser source: native-package-with-dash-version W: smser: description-starts-with-leading-spaces
    • Jabka Atu <> Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:27:38 +0300

smser (2.000-2) stable; urgency=low

  • Spelling errors
    • Jabka Atu <mashrom.head@gmail.com> Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:27:38 +0300
Can we help you?X

smser (2.000-1) experimental; urgency=low

  • Initial debian release
    • Jabka Atu <mashrom.head@gmail.com> Mon, 21 May 2007 08:27:38 +0300
-- 
--
Can't find what you're looking for?X
Could you at least use man ? Jabka Atu (aka mha13/Mashrom Head) --

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:29:08 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?SsO2cmctVm9sa2VyIFBlZXR6?= <peetz@scai.fraunhofer.de> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Acceptable CPU temperature range of idle computer? Message-ID: <fbjc1l$ci0$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Felix Karpfen wrote: > Since upgrading from Sarge to Etch, my CPU temperature appears to be > running 5-10 deg.C higher; immediately after booting it is a healthy 30 > deg.C and it creeps up to 45-50 deg.C within an hour. On the idle (?) > computer there are some 120 processes running and the system load is ab= out > 40%. >=20 > Am I heading for a problem? >=20 > The documentation says that the CPU is: >=20 > "Socket 478 for Intel4/Celeron" >=20 > and I have failed to locate any reference to an acceptable temperature > range. >=20 > All advice will be gratefully received. >=20 > Felix Karpfen >=20 Although you don't seem to refer to a notebook computer, this site may be of some help: http://www.linuxpowertop.org/ On notebook computers with no load I see temperatures (with the command acpi -V) as follows: pentium 4m 1.9 GHz: 45 deg C pentium-m 2 GHz : 41 deg C turion64 MT-40 2.2 GHz: 50 deg C Under load these cpus can heat up far above 60 deg C. --=20 Regards, J=C3=B6rg-Volker.

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:49:35 -0500 From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> To: "Nelson A. de Oliveira" <naoliv@gmail.com> Cc: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Where and how do I install a TTF font? Message-ID: <46DD383F.9040506@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 09/02/2007 08:24 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > Hi! > > On 9/2/07, Mumia W.. <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Unfortunately, evince doesn't show the barcodes on my system. In fact, >> none of evince, xpdf, gpdf, and kpdf can see the barcodes. > > To have Evince displaying the barcode I did this: > > Created a hints file: > > begin /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-barcod25/Bar25ifh.ttf > Family = Bar.25i.f.HR > FontName = Bar25ifHR-Regular > Encoding = Unicode > Location = English > Charset = ISO8859-1 > GeneralFamily = Roman > Weight = Medium > Width = Variable > Shape = Normal Upright > Priority = 20 > end > > Installed the font as > /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-barcod25/Bar25ifh.ttf and then run > "/usr/bin/defoma-font reregister-all hintfile" > > At least I can get Evince displaying the font with this. But I can't > get it on xpdf or acroread. > >> See if you can get the barcode font embedded in the PDF file. > > The PDF is generated by a third part online system that we use here. > We don't have control over the PDF. > We want to change all machines running Windows to Linux, but the only > missing thing is this barcode font on the PDFs. Windows displays them > correctly while we couldn't make it works on Linux :-/ > > Thank you! > > Best regards, > Nelson > Okay, here's one way to get it to work without changing the PDF file. Create a file named ~/.xpdfrc with these contents: include /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc fontDir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-barcod25/ Warning, the .xpdfrc file must be properly set up or *no fonts* will be rendered in xpdf; every character counts. I did this as a regular user. You might want to make this global by adding the appropriate fontDir specification to the /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc. Back up the old version first; a single mistake in that file could render xpdf useless. I hope this helps. --------- P.S. A potentially even better way to handle this is noted in /etc/xpdf/includes.

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:46:00 +0100 (BST) From: "G.W. Haywood" <ged@jubileegroup.co.uk> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux... Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0709041035100.2826@mail3.jubileegroup.co.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 blues wrote: > I would really love to become a good sys admin; linux is very > interesting to me as a popular alternative to the crap business > model of MS..... Whatever you think about the way it does things, Microsoft is one of the most successful companies that the world has ever seen. Business world-wide has a truly enormous investment in Microsoft products and in the vast majority of business settings you can hardly avoid dealing with them. Your evaluation of a "crap business model" tells me that you know nothing about business, and you won't get far with businesses if you start by telling them that they invested in crap. In your post you mention 'corporate network'; it might not be what you want to do, but it will help a lot if you first figure out what businesses do and how they do it. Only then will you be more than accidentally useful to a business. If you learn well, you might even succeed in one yourself. There's a lot more to it than the tools and the products. > i like the idea of using free software to monitor and protect a > network, and I hope to make a career out of it...does anyone have > any tips as to what i should concentrate on? Read, read, read, read, read, read, read, read. Then read some more. Learn how to write English properly. Build your own computers from components. Learn about drivers for the various bits of hardware. Learn the differences between BSD and SystemV. Learn about packet filtering. Learn about 'bash' and 'vi'. Personally I don't use vi unless it's unavoidable, but it's all you'll have on many a system, so you need to be able to cope. Learn how to get a bash prompt on a Windows box and an Explorer window on a Linux box - both remotely. Look at system logs. Play around with SAMBA, CUPS and sharing printers. Learn how to use a number of email and Web clients, office productivity tools like word processors and spreadsheets. Get to know about viruses and all sorts of other malware. Become a security expert. Read as much as you can, particularly "The C Programming Language", by Brian W Kernighan and Dennis M Ritchie, and all the O'Reilly books you can get your hands on: http://www.oreilly.com/store/complete.html Here's a selection from our bookshelf. Even though we have quite a few on machine-readable media, and some are available free online, my wife and I have two printed copies of several of them. That's great because we can read them by candle light if there's a power cut, and somehow my tired old eyes find a book much easier than the screen. "Learning the bash Shell" "Learning the vi Editor" "Learning GNU Emacs" "Essential System Administration" "TCP/IP Network Administration" "IP Routing" "DNS and BIND" "Network Troubleshooting Tools" "Sendmail" "Managing & Using MySQL" "Programming Perl" I've read all these from cover to cover - some twice, that last one even three times - and yet still find myself going back to them. Even thoguh I haven't even mentioned Apache just these few books will set you back quite a few ($currency_unit)s, so your friends and family need never again wonder what to buy for your birthday. You'll have had several more of those before you're anything remotely resembling an experienced system administrator. Incidentally I have absolutely no affiliation with O'Reilly, and I can't remember the last time that my business sold a book. I've found that not all O'Reilly books are really _great_ value, but I always learn something useful from them - definitely more than enough to cover the cost. > Is debian a good distro to learn if I want to one day run a > corporate network? No. Most of the Linux/FreeBSD/OSX/Solaris/Whatever products have much in common and once you're familiar wiith one you'll be fairly familiar with the others, but you'll probably find the differences frustrating. Slackware is commonly percieved to be a distribution used by those who understand the internals and is probably a good one to learn with, but from that point of view there are others, such as Linux From Scratch, which might be better. They may need more work. RedHat Enterprise is probably the top dog in the serious corporate environment. Debian is great if you want the easy life and a lot of packages. But it does take control, and it hides a lot of what's going on behind the GUI and the automation. Use something that doesn't by default start up a GUI. Compile and install everything from the sources, and configure it all yourself. This is what the people producing the distributions do, and most of them ultimately work with the same sources. Until you're very comfortable rolling your own packages from sources, avoid apt, dpkg, rpm, swaret, yum and all the other package managers. Google to find out what went wrong. Read "How to ask questions the smart way" and join a few mailing lists. I don't mean to imply that your post was especially badly worded but it could have been, er, more professional. If you want to be useful in a corporate setting you will need to work on that. And you'll need to look comfortable wearing a suit, even if you've cycled in. Oh, yes. Don't forget to read as much as you can. -- 73, Ged.

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 06:28:38 -0500 From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: browser confusions Message-ID: <46DD4166.2050700@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 09/04/2007 04:36 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:49:47 -0500 > "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Iceweasel is up to date. > > A more recent iceweasel is available from security.debian.org: > Thanks.

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 06:45:17 -0500 From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: hard disk crash revisiited Message-ID: <fbjgge$q7o$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit steef wrote: > dear florian, pinneped and others, > > thanks to your help (and some further study of myself) did I succeed > this afternoon in recovering 50GB of data from a completely crashed hd > (see a former thread). > dd_rescue and fsck did the job in this case. > > thanks again for all your help for which i am deeply grateful > Did you get those pictures off? Hugo

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:07:13 +0200 From: Joe Hart <j.hart@orange.nl> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian Message-Id: <200709041407.14083.j.hart@orange.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 30 August 2007 20:19:06 Britton Kerin wrote: > I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch > it to pure debian. Is there a standard way to do this that someone > could point me to? > > (Though I will say that little hack where the shell tells you which > package a program is in looks pretty cute and helpful :) > > Thanks, > Britton There are plenty of messages in this thread to make one think that it is possible to convert from Debian to Ubuntu and vice versa, but let me point out one thing that many have overlooked. Since Ubuntu uses sudo for everything, when using programs that require root access expect the user password, not the root one. So if you enable the root account, you might think, OK, I need to use the root password here (after all early versions of Ubuntu actually asked for the root password) but no, it still wants the user password (the first user, who is defined in the sudoers file) AFAIK, gksu and kdesu both act this way, as does the "administrator mode" in the GUI apps. From what I understand, these utilities are hacked to use sudo. Do yourself a favor and just backup /home and install Debian, then slowly but surely copy the files from the backup to the new /home. Be careful though, different versions of some programs have different configurations, and can cause problems if you're using a config file for a different version of a program. Joe

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:26:38 -0500 From: Sam Leon <leon.mailinglist.36@gmail.com> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: oo 2.2 in lenny? Message-ID: <46DD4EFE.9010307@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > Hi! > > I am running lenny, and I would like to install openoffice.org-2.2. The > version in lenny is 2.0. In my etch machines, I used the oo-2.2 from > backports.org. How can I install openoffice.org-2.2 in lenny? > > Thanks in advance > > Marcelo > oo2.2 is getting transfered into lenny from unstable today I think. You got lucky. I have never used 2.2. Guess I will have to read up on the differences.. Sam

Don't know where to look next?X

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:38:15 -0500 From: Sam Leon <leon.mailinglist.36@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Extending ext3 root-fs Message-ID: <46DD51B7.7020100@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010601090907060000090407" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010601090907060000090407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jan.johansson@se.nyklogistics.com wrote: > > Hello! > > I am running Debian 4.0 64bit on an Opteron. > My disks are two RAID5 on a IPC VOrtex controller (gdth). > > My / is becoming a bit to small (Mostly stuff in /lib), so i extended > it with > > lvextend -L +200M /dev/Debian/root > > Now, to resize the fs i intend to boot from a knoppix-live CD and then > use resize2fs to resize the fs. > > Am i missing anything? might i screw up GRUB or anything else like this? Gparted live is also nice: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php Sam --------------010601090907060000090407 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <br> <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jan.johansson@se.nyklogistics.com">jan.johansson@se.nyklogistics.com</a> wrote: <blockquote cite="midOF3D14F17D.8B986647-ONC125734B.00396A28-C125734B.0039E871@ne.nykline.com" type="cite"><br> <font face="sans-serif" size="2">Hello!</font> <br> <br> <font face="sans-serif" size="2">I am running Debian 4.0 64bit on an Opteron.</font> <br> <font face="sans-serif" size="2">My disks are two RAID5 on a IPC VOrtex controller (gdth).</font> <br> <br> <font face="sans-serif" size="2">My / is becoming a bit to small (Mostly stuff in /lib), so i extended it with</font> <br> <br> <font face="sans-serif" size="2">&nbsp;lvextend -L +200M /dev/Debian/root</font> <br> <br> <font face="sans-serif" size="2">Now, to resize the fs i intend to boot from a knoppix-live CD and then use resize2fs to resize the fs.</font> <br> <br> <font face="sans-serif" size="2">Am i missing anything? might i screw up GRUB or anything else like this?</font></blockquote> <br> Gparted live is also nice: <a href="http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php">http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php</a><br> <br> Sam<br> </body> </html> --------------010601090907060000090407--

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:53:43 -0500 From: Sam Leon <leon.mailinglist.36@gmail.com> To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: nvidia-glx redux... Message-ID: <46DD5557.6030407@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ZephyrQ wrote: > > > ZephyrQ wrote: >> Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 09:56:36AM -0500, ZephyrQ wrote: >>> >>>> I've edited the xorg.conf file back and forth several times >>>> (usually manually changing 'nv' to 'nvidia' and back again when glx >>>> couldn't load) and checked the previous thread for help (read the >>>> man pages and other docs.) >>> >>> Just changing nv to nvidia doesn't help. Look at nvidia-xconfig. >>> >>> Doug. >> >> This didn't work either. I ran it and re-started--it failed. >> >> Current error message says >> "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module" >> which lead me to the question about kernels... > > Did some double checking. I'm running on 2.6.18-5-486. The > nvidia kernel module is the one for 2.6.18-4-486. Installing the > module for 5-486 will probably help... > > ...so dumb question. Running the AMD Duron (1.3), which is > better: the i486, the i686, or the k7 modules (and kernel)? > > Again, thanx for your time. Yea I don't know why the package is broken. I am guessing this package gets neglected because it is non-free. Alot of people just run the lastest driver from nvidia.com. I know it sucks to use non-debian packages but the nvidia driver installs very easily. But every time xorg or the kernel gets updated you will have to reinstall the nvidia driver. Here is the driver for your card: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.11.html If you want to install it just read all the install instructions here: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/index.html Sam

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:39:34 -0300 From: Marcelo Chiapparini <chiappa@uerj.br> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: oo 2.2 in lenny? Message-Id: <1188909574.3284.3.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 07:26 -0500, Sam Leon wrote: > > Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I am running lenny, and I would like to install openoffice.org-2.2. The > > version in lenny is 2.0. In my etch machines, I used the oo-2.2 from > > backports.org. How can I install openoffice.org-2.2 in lenny? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Marcelo > > > > oo2.2 is getting transfered into lenny from unstable today I think. You > got lucky. I have never used 2.2. Guess I will have to read up on the > differences.. > > Sam Great!! thank you very much for the tip, and many thanks to debian developers! regards Marcelo -- Marcelo Chiapparini chiappa@oi.com.br -- Marcelo Chiapparini DFT-IF/UERJ chiappa@uerj.br

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:00:58 -0400 From: "Thomas H. George" <lists@tomgeorge.info> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: fetchmail downloads, mutt does not display Message-id: <46DD570A.1020205@tomgeorge.info> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I had this problem with an earlier version of exim4 and was advised to change the line smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = * to smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = 0 in the file /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template. There is no longer such a line in exim4.conf.template. Is there a new solution to this problem? Tom George

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:37:45 +0530 From: Bhasker C V <bhasker@unixindia.com> To: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> Cc: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: browser confusions Message-Id: <1188911265.6698.1.camel@h1.unixindia.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks all, I downloaded iceape-browser_1.0.10~pre070720-0etch3_i386.deb and installed it manually ( i did not want to upgrade whole of my system). Now iceape shows 1.0.9 version. On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 06:28 -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: > On 09/04/2007 04:36 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:49:47 -0500 > > "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Iceweasel is up to date. > > > > A more recent iceweasel is available from security.debian.org: > > > > Thanks. > > -- Bhasker C V Registered Linux user: #306349 (counter.li.org) The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I installed Linux.

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:13:57 -0400 From: Charles Turner <vze26m98@optonline.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Grub issues on Mac Mini? Message-id: <20070904091357438329.54dcbd2d@optonline.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi all- I have a new Core 2 Duo Mac Mini, and have been trying to install Debian Lenny on an external FireWire disk via the i386 netinst CD of 01sept2007. I waded through the older install documentation around the web that seems geared to earlier machines, have what I think is a satisfactory disk partition (ie MBR), but now I'm hung at boot with Grub giving me a "Hard Disk Error". My reading of this error is that it involves a disk geometry problem. I've now checked the geometry prior to installing Grub via netinst and sfdisk reports: Kernel's idea (-g): 28615 64 32 Disk geometry (-G): 3648 255 63 After grub's installed, the "geometry" command: geometry (hd1) returns 3648 255 63, but I still get my "Hard Disk Error" on boot. Any thoughts on how to resolve this? I'd be happy to supply more info; I know I've been brief here... Thanks! Charles Turner End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2309 ************************************************** Received on Tue Sep 4 09:32:56 2007

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