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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2311

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2311

Today's Topics:

  fdisk + disk identifier               [ Hugo Vanwoerkom  ]
  System freeze in Lenny                [ "Matthew Lennig"  ]
  Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini?          [ KS  ]
  package system broken by aptitude re  [ Steve Newcomb  ]
  Re: LVM                               [ "Roland M. Kruggel"  ]
  Re: System freeze in Lenny            [ Simon Brandmair  ]
  Re: Two Xorg processes?               [ Florian Kulzer 

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:51:39 -0500
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: fdisk + disk identifier

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Hi,

When I use fdisk I get back (among others):

...
Disk identifier: 0x0843f502
...

Do you need help?X

Can I get the disk model/type from that? I don't find that identifier in anything that hdparm outputs.

Hugo

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:44:51 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Please introduce a sane way to merge config file differences

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On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 01:11:00PM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> Package: debconf
> Version: 1.5.14
> Severity: Wishlist

>=20

> Everyone will know a message like this:
>=20
> Configuration file `/etc/sysctl.conf'
Do you need more help?X

=2E..

>=20

> What I would want is something like
>=20

> M: merge files interactively
>=20

> which would then call vimdiff, probably via $DIFF_EDITOR
> or some other variable if something like it does already exist.
>=20

wow. yes please!!

A

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Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:54:23 -0500
From: Don <debuser1@azark.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: libpango update broke iceape synaptic and more

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Can we help you?X

I am using "sid" and yesterday my update/upgrade broke iceape, synaptic, and some others. I've had problems with libpango before, but this one has me stumped. I don't see anyone else having this problem, so I must conclude something is wrong with my installation.

Here is some output (sorry for some of the line wrapping):

don@kali:~$ uname -a
Linux kali 2.6.18-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Oct 21 17:21:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux

don@kali:~$ iceape
/usr/lib/iceape/iceape-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_impl

don@kali:~$ sudo synaptic
synaptic: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_impl

don@kali:~$ cd /usr/lib
don@kali:/usr/lib$ ls -l libpango*

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 334978 2007-09-02 13:03 libpango-1.0.a
Can't find what you're looking for?X
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 816 2007-09-02 13:03 libpango-1.0.la lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2007-09-03 11:29 libpango-1.0.so -> libpango-1.0.so.0.1800.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2007-09-04 10:29 libpango-1.0.so.0 -> libpango-1.0.so.0.1800.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 248244 2007-09-02 13:03 libpango-1.0.so.0.1800.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 42912 2007-09-02 13:03 libpangocairo-1.0.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 846 2007-09-02 13:03 libpangocairo-1.0.la lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2007-09-03 11:29 libpangocairo-1.0.so -> libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.1800.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2007-09-04 10:29 libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 ->
libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.1800.1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  33360 2007-09-02 13:03 libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.1800.1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 319564 2007-09-02 13:03 libpangoft2-1.0.a
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    834 2007-09-02 13:03 libpangoft2-1.0.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     27 2007-09-03 11:29 libpangoft2-1.0.so -> 
libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.1800.1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     27 2007-09-04 10:29 libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 -> 
libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.1800.1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 183484 2007-09-02 13:03 libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.1800.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2005-10-18 05:20 libpangomm-1.0.so.1 -> libpangomm-1.0.so.1.5.11
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 138316 2005-08-02 03:09 libpangomm-1.0.so.1.5.11 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2007-05-19 22:26 libpangomm-1.4.so.1 -> libpangomm-1.4.so.1.0.30
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 171544 2007-05-18 13:53 libpangomm-1.4.so.1.0.30
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 122144 2007-09-02 13:03 libpangox-1.0.a
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    822 2007-09-02 13:03 libpangox-1.0.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     25 2007-09-03 11:29 libpangox-1.0.so -> 
libpangox-1.0.so.0.1800.1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     25 2007-09-04 10:29 libpangox-1.0.so.0 -> 
libpangox-1.0.so.0.1800.1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  42004 2007-09-02 13:03 libpangox-1.0.so.0.1800.1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  26706 2007-09-02 13:03 libpangoxft-1.0.a
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    834 2007-09-02 13:03 libpangoxft-1.0.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     27 2007-09-03 11:29 libpangoxft-1.0.so -> 
libpangoxft-1.0.so.0.1800.1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     27 2007-09-04 10:29 libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 -> 
Don't know where to look next?X
libpangoxft-1.0.so.0.1800.1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24204 2007-09-02 13:03 libpangoxft-1.0.so.0.1800.1 don@kali:/usr/lib$

Can anyone give me some assistance on this? (A "cc:" to debuser1 at azark dot com would be appreciated)

Don

Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:01:42 -0700
From: "Matthew Lennig" <matt@lennig.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: System freeze in Lenny

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I'm experiencing a system freeze-up in Lenny. Which package should this be reported against?

Some details:

System: Abit AB9Pro motherboard
CPU: Intel Core Duo E6600
Memory: 4GB

The system boots normally. With very low load, it can run for several hours (e.g., if I just run top). However, when I start to put any substantial load on the system it dies.

I tried changing the motherboard, CPU, and memory. This did not solve the problem.

Please advise me what package to submit this against and what diagnostics to collect.

Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

Best regards,
Matt.

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:35:11 -0400
From: KS <lists04@fastmail.fm>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini?

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Charles Turner wrote:
> Hi all-
>
> I have a new Core 2 Duo Mac Mini, and have been trying to install
> Debian Lenny on an external FireWire disk via the i386 netinst CD of
> 01sept2007.
>
> I waded through the older install documentation around the web that
> seems geared to earlier machines, have what I think is a satisfactory
> disk partition (ie MBR), but now I'm hung at boot with Grub giving me a
> "Hard Disk Error". My reading of this error is that it involves a disk
> geometry problem.
>
> I've now checked the geometry prior to installing Grub via netinst and
> sfdisk reports:
>
> Kernel's idea (-g): 28615 64 32
> Disk geometry (-G): 3648 255 63
>
> After grub's installed, the "geometry" command:
>
> geometry (hd1)
>
> returns 3648 255 63, but I still get my "Hard Disk Error" on boot.
>
> Any thoughts on how to resolve this? I'd be happy to supply more info;
> I know I've been brief here...
>
> Thanks! Charles Turner
>
>

I installed Debian on a USB key without GRUB and without touching the HDD on my Macbook Pro. You can read the instructions here http://ghaint.no-ip.org/~k2/debian/mbp-usb.html if you want to try that method.

Good luck,
/KS

Date: 04 Sep 2007 13:10:30 -0400
From: Steve Newcomb <srn@coolheads.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: package system broken by aptitude removing cupsys Message-ID: <87ps0y9x15.fsf@zorba.coolheads.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Do you need help?X

I am a long-time Debian user and sysadmin and I'm very frustrated these days. There seems no way out of my problem, other than to re-install the entire OS from scratch and then simply *not* attempt to replace cupsys, which still doesn't work. I have fallen into this "now start all over" trap several times over the past year or so. It is really bad, and advice would be welcome.

Once again, I've just installed a new OS (this time, lenny, but the same problem has occurred repeatedly with etch) using the Sep 2 2007 daily build of netinst.

I don't know how to prevent cupsys from being installed, so, once again, I've hoped that cupsys and all its gnome-trickery would work properly. Unfortunately, it still doesn't, at least insofar as my microsopic remaining patience with it allows me to determine.

Once again, I've tried to use aptitude to remove cupsys and replace it with lprng.

Cupsys once again fails to remove itself, failing on the removal of python-qt3 and/or python-sip4. Worse, once this failure occurs, aptitude doesn't work any more. Thereafter, all installations/de-installations fail with messages that include:

warning: Python C API version mismatch for module time: This Python has API version 1012, module time has version 1013.
warning: Python C API version mismatch for module _locale: This Python has API version 1012, module _locale has version 1013.
warning: Python C API version mismatch for module select: This Python has API version 1012, module select has version 1013.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1394, in ?     main()
  File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1388, in main     rv = action.run(global_options)
  File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 879, in run     pkg.read_version_info()
  File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 544, in read_version_info     self.version_info = pyversions.parse_versions(self.version_field)   File "/usr/share/pycentral-data/pyversions.py", line 29, in parse_versions     import operator
ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/operator.so: undefined symbol: PyInt_FromSsize_t

For months, now, the API mismatch has been the same two version numbers: 1013 and 1012.

Many weeks ago, thinking that it was a problem with Python 2.5, I wrote to the maintainer of that package. No answer. Anyway, I'm not sure that it's his problem.

All advice welcome.

  • Steve
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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:44:13 +0200
From: "Roland M. Kruggel" <rk.liste@bbf7.de> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: LVM

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Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 17:10 schrieb Yuriy Padlyak:
> ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file system or it's content
> without loosing any file attributes, etc either :)

Can we help you?X

cp -a /src/* /dest

-- 
cu
 Roland M. Kruggel

mailto:rk.liste@bbf7.de     http:www.bbf7.de
System: Intel, Debian etch, 2.6.21, xfce4, KDE 3.5

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Bemerkungen.
		-- Heinrich Heine

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:58:23 -0400 From: Charles Turner <vze26m98@optonline.net> To: KS <lists04@fastmail.fm> Cc: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini? Message-id: <20070904135823024893.efdcb336@optonline.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:35:11 -0400, KS wrote:
> I installed Debian on a USB key without GRUB and without touching the
> HDD on my Macbook Pro. You can read the instructions here
> http://ghaint.no-ip.org/~k2/debian/mbp-usb.html if you want to try that
> method.
Hi KS- Thanks for this. I haven't tried it yet, but it's already revealed something. Your paragraph: >> At the point where the installer asks to install GRUB at the MBR, >> choose "No". After this the installer will ask you where to install >> GRUB, choose the USB disk device which was /dev/sdb for me. Install >> GRUB and continue to finish installation. When installation is done, >> Debian will ask you to take the disk out of the tray and reboot. Led me to believe I must have accidentally installed Grub in the MBR on the Mini's drive. Anyway, Christoph Pfisterer's disktype shows a Grub there pointing to a 2nd disk. I also get a Tux w/HD icon when my Linux disk is offline! Also point of clarification: In the above, are you installing Grub to the device /dev/sdb, or to the root partition dev/sdb#? Best! Charles

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:16:31 -0400 From: KS <lists04@fastmail.fm> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini? Message-ID: <46DDA0FF.9050509@fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Charles Turner wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:35:11 -0400, KS wrote:
>
>> I installed Debian on a USB key without GRUB and without touching the >> HDD on my Macbook Pro. You can read the instructions here >> http://ghaint.no-ip.org/~k2/debian/mbp-usb.html if you want to try that >> method.
>
> Hi KS-
>
> Thanks for this. I haven't tried it yet, but it's already revealed
> something. Your paragraph:
>
>>> At the point where the installer asks to install GRUB at the MBR, >>> choose "No". After this the installer will ask you where to install >>> GRUB, choose the USB disk device which was /dev/sdb for me. Install >>> GRUB and continue to finish installation. When installation is done, >>> Debian will ask you to take the disk out of the tray and reboot.
>
> Led me to believe I must have accidentally installed Grub in the MBR on
> the Mini's drive. Anyway, Christoph Pfisterer's disktype shows a Grub
> there pointing to a 2nd disk. I also get a Tux w/HD icon when my Linux
> disk is offline!
>
> Also point of clarification: In the above, are you installing Grub to
> the device /dev/sdb, or to the root partition dev/sdb#?
>
> Best! Charles
>
Oops, I should have pointed out that I didn't install GRUB on the main HDD on the Macbook Pro but on the USB key. I installed GRUB on the /dev/sdb device (USB key) and not on the partition. From what I understand this should write on the MBR of the the USB disk. I need to update the instructions too as I found some typos and that I have a bigger 4GB USB disk to test various drivers for the MBP. Thanks, /KS

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:43:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Simon Brandmair <sbrandmair@gmx.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: System freeze in Lenny Message-ID: <fbk5fo$isn$1@online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:30:09 +0200 Matthew Lennig wrote: >=20
> The system boots normally. With very low load, it can run for several
> hours (e.g., if I just run top). However, when I start to put any
> substantial load on the system it dies.
>=20
> I tried changing the motherboard, CPU, and memory. This did not solve
> the problem.
So, if I understand you right, you can reproduce the freeze with any hardware (available to you of course)? I am wondering, because a system freezing under heavy load sounds very much like a hardware problem to me. Maybe you want to check other components like your PSU or graphics card a= s well. Cheers, Simon

Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:01:56 +0530 From: "Masatran, R. Deepak" <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How to bind keys to commands, without requiring login? Message-ID: <20070904183156.GA24666@research.iiit.ac.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline * Masatran, R. Deepak <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in> 2007-08-30
> I want to bind some keys to commands. I can do this using my window manager,
> but I want it to work even if (1) Nobody is logged in OR if (2) the screen
> is locked with a screen-saver.
>
> I am using Debian 4.0, with GDM, and Sawfish.
Some more information: I want this for listening to music, with MPD as the server, and Sonata as the client. I made "/etc/X11/Xmodmap" with contents: keycode 151 = XF86AudioPlay keycode 159 = XF86AudioStop keycode 178 = XF86AudioPrev keycode 236 = XF86AudioNext and "HOME/.xbindkeysrc" with contents: "mpc toggle" XF86AudioPlay "mpc stop" XF86AudioStop "mpc prev" XF86AudioPrev "mpc next" XF86AudioNext Now, the only problem is that XBindKeys does not work when I am not logged in. -- Masatran, R. Deepak <http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/>

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:43:26 -0700 From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: List Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Shut down or leave on? Message-Id: <A23AFF7D-3242-42A1-A27D-DD98440CC1B3@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sep 1, 2007, at 6:32 AM, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
> The most common failure mode of drives is bearing failure.
Hmm, weird. I haven't had a bearing failure since I was using 5.25" MFM and RLL drives in the PC-AT days. My hard disk failures have all been head crashes, gradual bit rot, or controller failures. I haven't had an IDE, SCSI, or SATA drive yet that failed by not spinning up.

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:32:13 +0200 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file" Message-ID: <20070904183213.GB31366@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 06:34:45 -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> I'm trying to run the latest build of the Eclipse IDE on Debian. When
> I try to start the program I receive an error about a shared library:
>
> "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory"
>
> I've never had trouble running Eclipse before, although they may have
> added a dependency to this library in the latest version. I looked
> online for a libgtk-x11-2.0 deb, but I couldn't find one.
Install the "apt-file" package; it has a tool that allows you to search filenames in all packages known to apt. In your case apt-file search libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 will tell you that your missing library is part of the "libgtk2.0-0" package. -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |

Date: 04 Sep 2007 14:35:44 -0400 From: Steve Newcomb <srn@coolheads.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: package system broken by aptitude removing cupsys -- correction Message-ID: <87myw29t33.fsf@zorba.coolheads.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I did an experiment that makes a liar out of me: I installed lenny and BEFORE DOING ANYTHING ELSE I removed cupsys. Bafflingly, it worked fine. So I reviewed what I had done the last time, and, yes, I had installed a few other packages before attempting to remove cupsys. They were: emacs, cvs, ssh-server, and, very interestingly, python-2.5. I think if you install lenny from netinst, then install python-2.5 and *then* attempt to remove cupsys, the problem will be reproduced. So maybe it's a problem with the python-2.5 package, after all. Steve

Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:37:20 +0200 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Two Xorg processes? Message-ID: <20070904183720.GC31366@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 00:55:36 +0200, Davide Mancusi wrote:
> I have noticed that I have two Xorg processes running, one of which is=20
> always stuck at CPU=3D0.0% but nevertheless shows the same memory usage a=
s=20
> the other process.
>
> From top:
> 3062 root 15 0 132m 59m 7984 S 0.7 5.9 10:34.47 Xorg
> 3140 root 20 0 132m 59m 7984 S 0.0 5.9 0:00.00 Xorg
>
> Is this normal? I am running Sid on AMD64.
>
> Snippet from the pstree output:
> $ pstree root
> init=E2=94=80=E2=94=AC=E2=94=80acpid
> [snip]
> =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80kdm=E2=94=80=E2=94=AC=E2=94=80Xorg=E2=94=80=E2=94=
=80=E2=94=80Xorg
> =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80kdm=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80startk=
de=E2=94=80=E2=94=AC=E2=94=80kwrapper
> =E2=94=82 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80seahorse-agent=E2=
=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80{seahorse-agent}
> =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80ssh-agent
> [snip]
>
> Xorg spawning itself?!
I also run Sid on AMD64 and I see only one Xorg process: =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80kdm=E2=94=80=E2=94=AC=E2=94=80Xorg =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80kdm=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80startkde=E2= =94=80=E2=94=AC=E2=94=80kwrapper =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80ssh-agent Did you already try to log out and restart kdm? --=20 Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2311 ************************************************** Received on Tue Sep 4 15:14:27 2007

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