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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2314

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini?          [ KS  ]
  Re: Thinking about devoting a seriou  [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Re: Thinking about devoting a seriou  [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Re: LVM                               [ "Roland M. Kruggel"  ]
  [Presse]                              [ Daniel  ]
  Re: System freeze in Lenny            [ Kamaraju S Kusumanchi  ]
  Re: Thinking about devoting a seriou  [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Re: Thinking about devoting a seriou  [ icelinux  ]
  Re: libpango update broke iceape syn  [ Don  ]
  Re: system logs and localtime         [ Jeff D  ]
  Re: Shut down or leave on?            [ bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) ]
  Re: Migrate debian services to a new  [ bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) ]
  how to apply 'make' functions to for  [ "Russell L. Harris"  ]

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:40:12 -0400
From: KS <lists04@fastmail.fm>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini? 

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Charles Turner wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:16:31 -0400, KS wrote:
> 

>> I need to update the instructions too as I found some typos and that I
>> have a bigger 4GB USB disk to test various drivers for the MBP.

>
> Hi KS-
>
> Cleaned up my internal and got the Grub off the MBR there. (Whew!)
> Followed your instructions but rEFIt doesn't boot the Linux partition.
> The EFI shell is displayed and says Legacy mode boot has failed. Was
> this what you experienced when you wrote this:
> 
>>> At this stage, GRUB should present you with a choice of kernels to 
>>> boot. Choose the first (the other is single user rescue mode) kernel 
>>> and hit "Enter". You system should boot into Debian now. If it 

Do you need help?X

>>> doesn't, it is most likely a bad root= option in GRUB. Mine showed 
>>> (hd1,1) as root, which was expected as the USB disk was detected as 
>>> /dev/sdb. But when I use rEFIt booting, it is detected first and root 
>>> option of (hd0,1) is the one which works. Try it(numbers depending 
>>> upon your system config and hard disk partitioning) and hopefully it 
>>> should work out pretty well.

>
> ...or did you make it into Grub even though it had the bad root= ? I've
> been using the i386 installer which reports the drives in the same
> order OSX does, but the AMD64 installer had them swapped. I haven't
> changed the Grub config file yet.
>
> Also, is your Grub version Grub2 or the old one? My 09012007 AMD64
> netinst uses Grub2...
>
> Thanks! Charles
>

rEFIt was able to get me the Grub on the USB disk and I got the normal list of kernels to boot into. The root= option comes into the picture when you ask Grub to boot a particular kernel. So I had to correct that before I could boot into Debian.

Grub version..... I haven't checked but I have a strong feeling that it wasn't the Grub2 version. I will check it and reply back in a little while.

Do you need more help?X

Oh, and the problem with root= might be solved using the UUID stuff Ubuntu uses. How does go using UUID with Grub? Don't know yet :)

/KS

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:18:10 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux... 

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On 09/04/07 17:50, blues wrote:
> On Sep 4, 5:10 pm, "j...@wexfordpress.com" <j...@wexfordpress.com>
> wrote:

>> On Sep 4, 12:30 am, Amit Uttamchandani  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future.
>>> First step will be to use Linux full time as your main system. I recently
>>> started using Debian Etch full time and I have definitely learned so much more.
>>> There is always something new that you will learn everyday.
>>> Next step would be to read up on how linux works. Great place to start would be
>>> the /usr/shar/doc/FAQ and HOWTO directories. I guarantee you if you read every
>>> single document there, you will a linux guru in no time.
>>> Then finally of course, would be to play around and build your own linux system.
>>> The best place to start would be
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/.
>>> Of course, intermediate step would involve building your own kernel and
>>> compiling programs from source.
>>> And Debian is definitely the right choice.
>>> Amit
>>> --
>> The most popular business distro is some form of Red Hat. I don't like
>> it but that is what the suits go for. A very popular one among the
>> programming community is Slackware. As an old (in all senses)
>> programmer I find Slack congenial to those of us who like to "touch
>> the wires together by hand."
>>
>> For a pure learning experience there is gentoo (vaguely debian-like)

Can we help you?X

>> or
>> Linux From Scratch. If you fight your way through one of those
>> installs you will know a lot of the tearful side of Linux. They don't
>> hide the details, they glory in the low level nuts and bolts.
>>
>> I admit to prejudice. Debian and Ubuntu manage to hang up on my
>> particular system.  I can make a new install of Slackware 12 run by
>> copying over my old /etc directory.
>>
>> Debian has an entirely different /etc structure so that trick won't
>> work
>> with that distro.
>>
>> --
>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQU...@lists.debian.org
>> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

>
> OK. Point taken. I will try to communicate as though I would like to
> be taken seriously. Here is what I have done today to further my
> dream:
>
> In my room, I have four computers:
>
> My favorite desktop pc - - AMD 1.24 Ghz.....1 Gig of RAM.....Windows
> XP
>
> My laptop -- HP Pavilion zv6000 AMD 64 3200 (2Ghz) 1 Gig
> RAM .....Windows Vista Home Premium
>
> A pieced-together Gateway Intel 733Mhz 256 RAM that I am currently
> installing my only copy of any Linux distro, which is Fedora Core 4
>
> A really old PC with 96 MB of RAM that I am running Knoppix Live

Unmentioned is networking gear.

> I also picked up a copy of A Practical Guide to Linux Commands,
> Editors, and Shell Programming by Mark Sobell.
>
> After getting Fedora installed. I hope to be able to upgrade it
> without much trouble and begin setting up my server to practice my
> networking skills. I will start with all of your suggestions, which I
> honestly appreciate, and will check back very frequently.

Can't find what you're looking for?X

It's definitely a start!

Remember, though, that every computer is a server and every computer is a client. It all depends on what service(s) you run on each box.

And, of course, some OSs are not so good at multi-tasking. They are (obviously) not good at being servers.

  • -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:20:04 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux... 

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Don't know where to look next?X

On 09/04/07 17:28, icelinux wrote: 

>>> i like the idea of using free software to monitor and protect
>>> a network, and I hope to make a career out of it...does
>>> anyone have any tips as to what i should concentrate on?

>
> I would suggest a degree in something computer network related
> and some certifications. If you look through the ads you will
> find most places of business want credentials, experience, or
> both. They do NOT want - I read 10 books and taught myself
> networking.

Excellent practical point.

Having a home network will reinforce what you've learned in those classes, though.

  • -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 02:31:01 +0200
From: "Roland M. Kruggel" <rk.liste@bbf7.de> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: LVM 

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Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 21:55 schrieb Mike Bird:
> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 10:44, Roland M. Kruggel wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 17:10 schrieb Yuriy Padlyak:
> > > ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file system or it's
> > > content without loosing any file attributes, etc either :)
> >
> > cp -a /src/* /dest

>

> That misses dot files in the source. Use rsync instead, perhaps
> with -H and/or -S flags (see man).
Confused? Frustrated?X

Oh schitt. Sorry.
Thats a big mistake. I have alway copy with cp -a. I never do it. Many Thnx

> rsync -a -H -S /src/ /dest/

ok. Thats realy better. 

-- 
cu
 Roland M. Kruggel

mailto:rk.liste@bbf7.de     http:www.bbf7.de
System: Intel, Debian etch, 2.6.21, xfce4, KDE 3.5

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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:09:35 +1000 From: "Adrian Levi" <adrian.levi@gmail.com> To: "Roland M. Kruggel" <rk.liste@bbf7.de> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: LVM Message-ID: <d3826e640709041909w3ca792ecjed43b1a1b041f052@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/5/07, Roland M. Kruggel <rk.liste@bbf7.de> wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 21:55 schrieb Mike Bird:
> > On Tuesday 04 September 2007 10:44, Roland M. Kruggel wrote:
> > > Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 17:10 schrieb Yuriy Padlyak:
> > > > ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file system or it's
> > > > content without loosing any file attributes, etc either :)
> > >
> > > cp -a /src/* /dest
> >
> > That misses dot files in the source. Use rsync instead, perhaps
> > with -H and/or -S flags (see man).
>
> Oh schitt. Sorry.
> Thats a big mistake. I have alway copy with cp -a. I never do it.
> Many Thnx
>
> > rsync -a -H -S /src/ /dest/
>
> ok. Thats realy better.
Would you not also need to set "umask 0000" to preserve existing file permissions? Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths?

Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:19:56 -0000 From: blues <bluesbravo@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux... Message-ID: <1188958796.078336.317030@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Sep 4, 7:30 pm, Ron Johnson <ron.l.john...@cox.net> wrote:
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> On 09/04/07 17:28, icelinux wrote:
>
> >>> i like the idea of using free software to monitor and protect
> >>> a network, and I hope to make a career out of it...does
> >>> anyone have any tips as to what i should concentrate on?
>
> > I would suggest a degree in something computer network related
> > and some certifications. If you look through the ads you will
> > find most places of business want credentials, experience, or
> > both. They do NOT want - I read 10 books and taught myself
> > networking.
>
> Excellent practical point.
>
> Having a home network will reinforce what you've learned in those
> classes, though.
>
> - --
> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson LA USA
>
> Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
> Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!
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As far as networking gear goes, I have a couple of old routers to choose from...I plan to attach one of the routers to the ethernet cable coming into my room and going from there....wish me luck

Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:20:45 +0200 From: Daniel <daniel@imaego.be> To: Debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: [Presse] Message-Id: <95420.YTLHIAMR@imaego.be> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Boundary="--=BOUNDARY_95420_KQKA_GWTX_WJYO_DEUY" Ce message est au format MIME. Comme votre logiciel de courrier ne comprend pas ce format, tout ou partie de ce message pourrait C*tre illisible. ----=BOUNDARY_95420_KQKA_GWTX_WJYO_DEUY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Rendez-vous sur le portail web 2=2E0 nouvelle g=E9n=E9ration et gagne 500 euros + 1 kit =E9v=E9nement aux "WINGS of PHENIX51=2EBE" http://www=2EPHENIX51=2EBE A bient=F4t, ClubPHENIX51=2EBE@imaego=2Ebe ----=BOUNDARY_95420_KQKA_GWTX_WJYO_DEUY Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>HTML Message</TITLE> <META NAME=3DGENERATOR CONTENT=3DAdvanced HTML parser v2> <META http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-= 1"> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT SIZE=3D"-2" FACE=3D"Monaco">Rendez-vous sur le portail web 2=2E0 nouvel= le g=E9n=E9ration et<br>gagne 500 euros + 1 kit =E9v=E9nement aux "WINGS of= PHENIX51=2EBE"<br><A HREF=3D"http://www=2EPHENIX51=2EBE">http://www=2EPHENIX51=2EBE<= /A><br>A bient=F4t,<br>ClubPHENIX51=2EBE@imaego=2Ebe<br></FONT></BODY> </HTML> ----=BOUNDARY_95420_KQKA_GWTX_WJYO_DEUY--

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:25:29 -0400 From: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: System freeze in Lenny Message-ID: <fbl75k$bsi$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Matthew Lennig wrote:
> I'm experiencing a system freeze-up in Lenny. Which package should
> this be reported against?
>
> Some details:
>
> System: Abit AB9Pro motherboard
> CPU: Intel Core Duo E6600
> Memory: 4GB
>
> The system boots normally. With very low load, it can run for several
> hours (e.g., if I just run top). However, when I start to put any
> substantial load on the system it dies.
>
> I tried changing the motherboard, CPU, and memory. This did not solve
> the problem.
>
> Please advise me what package to submit this against and what
> diagnostics to collect.
Are there any error messages in /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog, ~/.xsession-errors etc.,? raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:01:33 -0500 From: icelinux <icelinux@icelinux.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux... Message-Id: <20070905031051.1742D2E900@murphy.debian.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future.
Maybe, not definately. Money still runs the world, and can often get more done. We still have copyrights and patents, so what value is it ever going to be to a company to give away their trade secrets that they are making millions on? Ideas and processes can still be patented and no open source products can duplicate them. Just imagine if Microsoft had been able to patent a "windowing system".

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Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:01:33 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux... Message-ID: <46DE1C0D.9080306@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 21:19, blues wrote:
> On Sep 4, 7:30 pm, Ron Johnson <ron.l.john...@cox.net> wrote:
> On 09/04/07 17:28, icelinux wrote:
>
>>>> I would suggest a degree in something computer network related >>>> and some certifications. If you look through the ads you will >>>> find most places of business want credentials, experience, or >>>> both. They do NOT want - I read 10 books and taught myself >>>> networking.
> Excellent practical point.
>
> Having a home network will reinforce what you've learned in those
> classes, though.
>
> As far as networking gear goes, I have a couple of old routers to
> choose from...I plan to attach one of the routers to the ethernet
> cable coming into my room and going from there....wish me luck
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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:10:50 -0500 From: icelinux <icelinux@icelinux.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux... Message-Id: <20070905032006.BC0522E8DD@murphy.debian.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future.
In an odd paradox, we can never get rid of copyrights or licenses because then we could not require those companies or persons who sell open source software to make the source code available.

Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:55:21 -0500 From: Don <debuser1@azark.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: libpango update broke iceape synaptic and more Message-ID: <46DE1A99.6090400@azark.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Kemp wrote:
> On Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 11:54:23 -0500, Don wrote:
>
>> I am using "sid" and yesterday my update/upgrade broke iceape, synaptic, and >> some others. I've had problems with libpango before, but this one has me >> stumped. I don't see anyone else having this problem, so I must conclude >> something is wrong with my installation.
>
> I see it too, on my AMD64 system:
>
> skx@vain:~$ firefox
> /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_impl
>
> Interestingly the symbol is defined:
>
> skx@vain:~$ nm -D /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 |grep g_once_
> U g_once_init_enter_impl
> U g_once_init_leave
>
> I ran firefox under strace and I can see the system load and open
> the correct .so so I'm a little stumped too.
>
> I can't see any open bug reports, so I'd suggest you submit one.
> FWIW I fetched the source and rebuilt it locally, but the problem
> persists..
>
> Steve
> --
>
> Thanks for the hint. I've now "solved" the problem. > > Running ldd against the named library I see this: > > libglib-2.0.so.0 => /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00002ac8b5c58000) > > That is *incorrect*, I have the /lib/libglib* file upon my system > and no idea where it came from! The correct files are located in /usr/lib/ - archiving /lib/libglib* made the problem go away. > > Steve > -- Nice find Steve, but I have not quite the exact same problem. Even though I'm fairly Deb-Linux savvy, I'm lost in this area. I did, however do some looking and ran the nm and ldd. nm came up with same undefined. ldd came up with following (much edited out): kali:~# ldd -v /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0xb7e7c000) kali:~# ldd -v /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0xb7da4000) Hmmm ... the "/usr/local" looks strange to me compared to what you found and where you said it should be. Not knowing any better, I used "updatedb" and then "locate libglib" and got the following (edited): /opt/gtk/lib/libglib-2.0.la /opt/gtk/lib/libglib-2.0.so /opt/gtk/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 /opt/gtk/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.1200.2 /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0.0.10 /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.a /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.la /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.1400.0 /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.la /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.1200.2 I see (I think) that it is apparently pointing to the /usr/local/lib copy which is version 1200.2 instead of the /usr/lib copy which has version 1400.0 Am I correct in this thinking? If this is the problem, how do I fix it? (I know I could copy the later version from /usr/lib into /usr/local/lib but that seems a very klugey and unwise fix.) Anyone else feel free to jump in here - I miss my computer and hate the one I'm using, forgive me if this message did not thread properly. And if anyone wants to try educating me on why the "local" is needed, I'm listening. Thanks, Don

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:10:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com> To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: system logs and localtime Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0709042108320.4110@proto.technobounce.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Tony Heal wrote:
> I have a remote server at a client site that had /etc/localtime pointing to Eastern instead of Central. I have fixed
> this. Is there a way for this to take affect without rebooting the server?
> > >
> Tony Heal
After you reset your time, you will have to restart any app that is logging to syslog, you should probably also restart /etc/init.d/klogd and /etc/init.d/sysklogd. After that all of you logs should have the right time. -+- 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Techno.

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:56:03 -0600 From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Shut down or leave on? Message-ID: <20070905045603.GA3140@dementia.proulx.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/" Content-Disposition: inline --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G.W. Haywood wrote:
> ~$> echo "24 * 365.25" | bc
> 8766.00
>=20
> but I only did this to illustrate the more compact use of some system
> tools, in this case 'echo', 'bc' and a pipe. :)
While I am a long time bc user and won't knock it I might still suggest alternatives just because... If we stick to integers then the shell does this quite well. echo $(( 24 * 365 )) 8760 Bob --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG3jbj0pRcO8E2ULYRArbJAJsHrKnig7Y/f+bhe+NbudMEWKiu6gCeNY0n 6NMO7TSQrOh+RJrXjN+0qPM= =waY6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/--

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:59:34 -0600 From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Migrate debian services to a new debian system Message-ID: <20070905045934.GB3140@dementia.proulx.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y" Content-Disposition: inline --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline syn4coXis10s@gmail.com wrote:
> then only problem I see is that since these boards are pretty
> proprietary, they require some special modules, etc. to get everything
> working.
That would be my biggest concern for problems too.
> However I guess I can just pre-install the asrock kernel on
> the servers hard drive then drop it in and delete the old kernels.
> What do you all think about that?
Sure. It has been done many times before. Should work fine. Along with the kernel and the initrd make note of the kernel command line options used to boot the previous kernel. Bob --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG3je20pRcO8E2ULYRArHWAJ9sPUSHzYgT81v/sCroc3cDCJx03gCfXoo8 p4kky9xTUFoJePYMKkMF+28= =leoD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y--

Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:08:38 -0500 From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: how to apply 'make' functions to for-loop index Message-ID: <20070905050838.GA10520@oplink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Is it possible to apply 'make' functions such as $(dir ...), $(suffix ...), $(basename ...), $(filter ...), etc., to the index of a bash for-loop, to enable operations such as: directories := red green yellow (for d in $(directories:/=); do (for f in *; do cp $(nodir $$f) $$d; done;) done;) within the context of a makefile? What I am trying to do is sort files into several groups by moving them from a directory "pool": pool/red-17 pool/red-23 pool/red-28 pool/... pool/green-20 pool/green-33 pool/... pool/yellow-5 pool/yellow-22 pool/... into the respective subdirectories: pool/red/red-17 pool/red/red-23 pool/red/red-28 pool/red/... pool/green/green-20 pool/green/green-33 pool/green/... pool/yellow/yellow-5 pool/yellow/yellow-22 pool/yellow/... RLH

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:28:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Ramesh j <sakram_rsh@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Is it a BUG???? Message-ID: <734858.77873.qm@web31102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1161396665-1188970103=:77873" --0-1161396665-1188970103=:77873 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,=0A=0A This is Ramesh, I am using Debian 4.0 etch. Recent days i = have experienced some problem on booting Debian in my PC.=0A=0AProblem Desc= ription:=0A-----------------------------=0A=0A 1. My BIOS battery is get= ting down so my system date is changed regularly.=0A 2. While booting De= bian it shows your system is not checked for past 42356 days so check force= d.=0A 3. For every booting it shows like that only. It really irritates = a user. Is it a BUG in Debian or the user requirements. =0A =0A I hope= you peoples are responding to me about this issue.=0A =0A=0AThanks & Regar= ds=0ARamesh.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A______________________________________= ______________________________________________=0ABoardwalk for $500? In 200= 7? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yah= oo! Games.=0Ahttp://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=3Dmonopolyherenow = --0-1161396665-1188970103=:77873 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><style type=3D"text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></he= ad><body><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12p= t">Hi all,<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This is Ramesh, I am using Debian 4.0 = etch. Recent days i have experienced some problem on booting Debian in my P= C.<br><br>Problem Description:<br>-----------------------------<br><br>&nbs= p;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. My BIOS battery is getting down so my system date is chan= ged regularly.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. While booting Debian it shows your = system is not checked for past 42356 days so check forced.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&= nbsp; 3. For every booting it shows like that only. It really irritates a u= ser. Is it a BUG in Debian or the user requirements. <br>&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>&= nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I hope you peoples are responding to me about this issue.= <br><div>&nbsp;<br><br>Thanks &amp; Regards<br>Ramesh.<br></div><hr style= =3D"width: 100%; height: 2px;"></div><br>=0A <hr size=3D1>Got a little= couch potato? <br>=0ACheck out fun <a href=3D"http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt= =3D48248/*http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=3Doni_on_mail&p=3Dsummer+activi= ties+for+kids&cs=3Dbz">summer activities for kids.</a></body></html> --0-1161396665-1188970103=:77873-- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2314 ************************************************** Received on Wed Sep 5 02:03:34 2007

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