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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2316
Today's Topics:
Re: linux on ipod nano? [ Richard Lyons ]
Re: Display JPEG compression [ Florian Kulzer ]
Remote SNMP respo [ david robert ]
Filtering Syslog-NG [ Nathan ]
Re: crontab -e [ Maarten Verwijs ]
Re: package system broken by aptitud [ "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+ ]
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:06:40 +0100
From: Richard Lyons <richard@the-place.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: linux on ipod nano?
Message-ID: <20070905140640.GB12519@the-place.net>
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On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 05:37:45AM -0700, Michael M. wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 15:08 +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
[...]
> >
> > Gtkpod has two strange charactistics, but seems to be ususally
> > workable. The oddities are
> >
> > - if you create an extra copy of the ipod by mistake (or when trying
> > things out), there seems to be no way to delete it again, other than
> > identifying the relevant lines in the ~/.gtkpod/prefs file. I have
> > not tried this method incase I mess it up.
> >
> > - it has two copies of the same window offering "Artist" "Album"
> > "Genre" etc tabs, and I have no idea why one is not enough.
> >
> > Until I do damage the filesystem, I've decided to accept the occasional
> > error messages and continue simply unplugging it when it wont eject.
[...]
>
> I'm using gtkpod also; meanwhile, anxiously awaiting Floola to make its
> way to Debian. I don't use gtkpod to mount / unmount my nano, though.
> I launch gtkpod after the nano is plugged in and mounted, and exit it
> with the nano still mounted. Have you considered using another tool for
> automounting your device, or just mounting and unmounting manually with
> mount / umount?
I was not clear. I do indeed manually mount it with mount, as I haven't
worked out any other way. After copying files etc, I then click
'disconnect' in gtkpod to be sure it flushes data, then I
'eject /mnt/ipod' and the ipod stops saying 'do not disconnect'.
The occasional problem is when gtkpod refuses to disconnect, giving the
strange error message.
Failed to remove watch.
After that, I cannot umount or eject as the device remains busy. So I
use brute force...
--
richard
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:45:41 -0700
From: Bert Schulze <potassium.xyanide@googlemail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: package l 2.6.21-2-486 #1 Wed Jul 11 03:17:09 UTC 2007 i686 Lenny printing bug
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On 4 Sep., 17:40, Rod Lovett <rodlov...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> Hi what am I doing wrong, how on earth can I send ths bug to debian so
> they will accept and understand and perhaps even act on it?
> 4x rejections with
>
> Your message didn't have a Package: line at the start (in the
> pseudo-header following the real mail header), or didn't have a
> pseudo-header at all. Your message has been filed under junk but
> otherwise ignored.
>
> This makes it much harder for us to categorise and deal with your
> problem report. Please _resubmit_ your report to sub...@bugs.debian.org
> and tell us which package the report is on. For help, check outhttp://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.
>
> Lenny Printing bug with Samsung ML-2010 with Kernel 2.6.21-2-486 #1 Wed
> Jul 11 03:17:09 UTC 2007 i686
>
> printing job stayed in Kjobviewer
>
> Printing OK with/ older //kernel 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC
> 2007 i686 /
>
> Hi,
> this Samsung ML-2010 B@W laser did at first work in Lenny, until apt-get
> dist-upgrade in mid august 2007. The printer was visible, and put the
> job in kjobviewer and gave an error message trying to shift the job to
> the Samsung.
>
> Now Lenny cannot even see this usb printer to install it after an
> apt-get dist-upgrade today.(29/8/07)
>
> The same printer works fine in Debian etch, also works fine in Sidux Gaia.
> Same behavior in Kubuntu gutsy tribe5, which must use snapshots of Lenny
> packages, hence same errors.
> Using a specific ppd does not help either, when you could install the
> printer that was.
>
> Oh an old HP deskjet 895Cxi prints OK, but with a long latency now, so
> this problem is Samsung Laser specific whatever it is.
>
> I joined the mailing list and got 2 answers very quickly stating there
> was a Kaffeine problem in Debian.
> I thought that Kaffeine, interfering with a printer was a bit on the far
> side.
> However removing Kaffeine, allowed my Samsung ML-2010 to be seen again
> in KDE print.
> It refused to print still, putting the job in Kjobviewer, and only
> printed on rebooting, a behaviour I had noted before.
>
> /The true problem, I believe resides in kernel 2.6.21-2, as everything
> goes fine with printing, Kaffeine present and all with the older kernel
> 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux.
> So there is a *bug in the kernels after 2.6.18-4-486 #1* with regard to
> the Samsung ML-2010 and I hope it can be fixed.
> Regards
> Rod Lovett
> /
Hi,
Erm i read the reject happened because of missing pseudo headers ...
thats true!
--- http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting ---
Pseudo-headers
The first part of the bug report is the pseudo-header which contains
information about what package and version your bug report applies to.
The pseudo-header must start on the first line of the body. In other
words, the first line of the message body should say:
Package: <packagename>
Replace <packagename> with the name of the package which has the bug.
The second line of the message should say:
Version: <packageversion>
Replace <packageversion> with the version of the package. Please don't
include any text here other than the version itself, as the bug
tracking system relies on this field to work out which releases are
affected by the bug.
You need to supply a correct Package line in the pseudo-header in
order for the bug tracking system to deliver the message to the
package's maintainer. See this example for information on how to find
this information.
---end quote---
subject gets the bug title and first line of the body *MUST* be the
start of pseudo headers
Package: kjobviewer
Version: ...
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:28:38 +0200
From: "Oscar Diaz Fernandez" <oscar.diazf@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Display JPEG compression
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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:35:08 +0200
From: Johannes Wiedersich <johannes@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>
To: Ramesh j <sakram_rsh@yahoo.com>,
Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Is it a BUG????
Message-Id: <46DEBE9C.5060106@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>
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Ramesh j wrote:
> This issue is not in windows. It boots properly after entering it
> shows the system date is wrong. But in Debian it takes long time to
> boot because of check disk. would u think it is a problem and it
> should be fixed in the upcoming releases.
[Putting this back on list]
This is not in windows, because in windows, as far as I remember,
filesystems are never checked when the system is shut down cleanly.
Debian's default settings provide for occasional file system checks to
verify that your filesystem is ok and not suffering form (gradual)
corruption by bad disks, bad cables, bad memory, or kernel bugs (kernel
bugs are very unlikely for an etch system, I guess). Bad disks, cables
and memory corruption occur on windows as well, but the user will only
notice when it is too late to fix anything. I have more than once
rescued data from a windows system that was inaccessible by windows, but
a good deal of the data could still be read with linux tools.
These file system checks are a measure to protect you from data loss. If
you don't want this protection, you can configure your system to skip
these tests. Read 'man tune2fs' and look at the options -c and -i. If I
were you, I would rather spend the few cents to replace the battery and
sleep better, having the knowledge that my linux does filesystem checks
*before* problems become unfixable. YMMV.
So really these tests are a feature I and many others cherish. It is
certainly not a bug.
HTH,
Johannes
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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:38:58 -0400
From: KS <lists04@fastmail.fm>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini?
Message-ID: <46DEBF82.1010502@fastmail.fm>
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KS wrote:
> Charles Turner wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:16:31 -0400, KS wrote:
>>
>>
>> Also, is your Grub version Grub2 or the old one? My 09012007 AMD64
>> netinst uses Grub2...
>>
>
> Grub version..... I haven't checked but I have a strong feeling that it
> wasn't the Grub2 version. I will check it and reply back in a little while.
>
Grub was version 0.97 on the USB key installation. Does the new
net-install CD has Grub2 now? I got to try it then.
/KS
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:22:46 +0200
From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Display JPEG compression
Message-ID: <20070905142245.GA30821@localhost>
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On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 15:46:52 +0200, Benjam=ED Villoslada wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> Anyone knows what command line program can display the compression info f=
rom=20
> JPEG files? Thanks!
One possibility is using the "identify" command from the imagemagick
package:
$ identify -verbose The-Horse-in-Motion.jpg | grep Quality
Quality: 85
--=20
Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
Florian |
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:45:12 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Display JPEG compression
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On 09/05/07 09:28, Oscar Diaz Fernandez wrote:
>=20
> You can try with: identify -verbose image.jpeg
I'm not sure that JPEG images store "compression level" like zip
files do.
>=20
>=20
> On 9/5/07, *Benjam=ED Villoslada * <benjami@gmail.com
> <mailto:benjami@gmail.com>> wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> Anyone knows what command line program can display the compression
> info from
> JPEG files? Thanks!
- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!
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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:50:32 +0100 (BST)
From: david robert <davidforlinux@yahoo.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Remote SNMP respo
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Hi Guys,
I have configured snmpd server in my debian server and
i am able to see only local snmp requests and when i
try to do remote host using snmp i am getting the
following error
ERROR: netsnmp : No response from remote host
I tried the following solution
You just need to think about checking this file :
/etc/default/snmpd
It has a line :
SNMPDOPTS=3D=92-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p
/var/run/snmpd.pid 127.0.0.1′
You see the 127.0.0.1 ? That is our problem. Just
erase it if you want to give full access or adjust it
to your local network.
But it didn't help me could some one help me how to
fix this problem
Thanks for your help
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Date: 05 Sep 2007 10:39:57 -0400
From: Steve Newcomb <srn@coolheads.com>
To: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
Cc: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: package system broken by aptitude removing cupsys -- correction
Message-ID: <878x7lw4zm.fsf@zorba.coolheads.com>
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"Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> writes:
> On 09/04/2007 01:35 PM, Steve Newcomb wrote:
> > I did an experiment that makes a liar out of me: I installed
> > lenny and BEFORE DOING ANYTHING ELSE I removed cupsys. Bafflingly,
> > it worked fine.
> >
>
> How did cupsys get installed? I doubt that it was installed by
> default, because I have Etch and no cupsys; however, I didn't install
> Gnome or KDE either.
>
> But in Etch, cupsys isn't dependent upon Gnome or KDE.
All I did was to use the latest daily build of netinst. I did not
characterize the installation as being for a print server, just as a
desktop machine. I suspect that that's how cupsys sneaks into the
installation, because some of the gnome desktop stuff requires it.
> > So I reviewed what I had done the last time, and, yes, I had installed
> > a few other packages before attempting to remove cupsys. They were:
> > emacs, cvs, ssh-server, and, very interestingly, python-2.5.
> > I think if you install lenny from netinst, then install python-2.5
> > and
> > *then* attempt to remove cupsys, the problem will be reproduced.
> > So maybe it's a problem with the python-2.5 package, after all.
> > Steve
> >
>
> Perhaps you installed hplip which depends upon cupsys. Printconf will
> also bring in cupsys.
hplip was installed, but I didn't ask for it. I think Cupsys depends on
it.
> See if you can get a print driver that doesn't depend upon cupsysys. I'm
> lucky that my printer manufacturer provides a driver that only
> requires lprng 8-)
lprng lets me set up my own filters. The only filters I need are
easy: pnm2ppa and a little something that prepends some postscript
that tells my HP 4050 JetDirect to be in duplex mode.
One of the simple tasks that I have never succeeded in getting Cupsys to
do, even after many hours of fiddling, was to describe the same
printer hardware in two ways, one simplex and one duplex.
In my experience, trying to use Cupsys is like trying to use a
battleship -- a battleship that doesn't work reliably -- as a commuter
vehicle. Nothing about it is intuitive, it's incredibly opaque and
complex, and it's far too time-consuming to get it to work. The fact
that Cupsys is evidently the default printing system for Debian is, in
my opinion, poisonous to Debian's acceptability as a desktop,
particularly in the face of Apple OS X's well-deserved and
fast-growing popularity. The ambitiousness of Cupsys could have been
beneficially tempered with a greater respect for the fact that "less
is more". Personally, I regret that I have wasted so many precious
hours on it, and I do not expect to make any further attempt. Ever.
> When I browse within aptitude, I don't see a conflict between
> python2.4 and python2.5, but I'm using Etch, and the conflict may be
> simply undocumented.
Right. This is a conflict that doesn't reveal itself until it's
got you well and truly wedged.
> Sorry, I'm not willing to mess up my system to test your problem :-)
Good thought. I don't recommend it!
> Try the experiment you described: install Lenny from netinst, install
> python2.5, then remove cupsys. If the problem recurs, then you might
> have found a bug.
I already did exactly that, except that I also installed cvs, emacs,
and ssh-server, too, and I don't believe that those packages are
implicated. Therefore, I think I've found the bug already. And I
have a workaround: just remove cupsys first of all, *before*
installing python-2.5.
-- Steve
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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:06:56 -0400
From: Nathan <debian@ucwv.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Filtering Syslog-NG
Message-ID: <46DEC610.7030208@ucwv.edu>
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I've got several hosts all dumping their syslog logs to a dedicated box
running syslog-ng. As it stands I used the following line in the
syslog-ng.conf file to create seperate files and directories for the
different boxes.
destination d_ALL {
file("/var/log/$R_YEAR/$R_MONTH/$HOST/$R_YEAR-$R_MONTH-$R_DAY"); };
I need to filter out the logs from one host and have it go to a
different destination.
I setup the following destination:
destination d_CUDA {
file("/var/log/CUDA/$R_YEAR/$R_MONTH/$R_YEAR-$R_MONTH-$R_DAY"); };
and I setup the following filter:
filter f_cuda { host(x.x.x.x); };
and the folling "log" rule:
log { source(s_ACS); filter(f_cuda); destination(d_CUDA); };
However it isn't working. The new directory isn't being created and the
logs are still going to the old destination. I think the problem is
with my filter. Does using a 'host' filter block messages or allow them?
What do I need to do filter out the logs from that host from going to
the "d_ALL" destination and force it to go to "d_CUDA" instead? Thanks.
Nathan
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:24:17 +0200
From: Maarten Verwijs <mverwijs@farwise.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: crontab -e
Message-ID: <20070905152417.GB17213@milliways>
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On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 05:38:03PM -0700, Raquel wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:24:16 +0200
> Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net> wrote:
> Hmmm, I thought it was configured using the update-alternatives
> system. However, when I run (as root):
> #update-alternatives --set editor /usr/bin/vim
> I get an error:
> #update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/bin/vim'.
This just means that vim isn't installed. Run 'apt-get install vim' and
it should work.
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:25:06 -0700
From: "Redefined Horizons" <redefined.horizons@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file"
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Thanks Florian.
I will install the apt-file tool.
I believe I have a later version of the libgtk2.0-0 package installed,
so I think Eclipse must be having touble finding the file. I'll post a
message to an Eclipse forum to see how I can fix this.
Thank you for your help.
Scott Huey
On 9/4/07, Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 06:34:45 -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> > I'm trying to run the latest build of the Eclipse IDE on Debian. When
> > I try to start the program I receive an error about a shared library:
> >
> > "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot
> > open shared object file: No such file or directory"
> >
> > I've never had trouble running Eclipse before, although they may have
> > added a dependency to this library in the latest version. I looked
> > online for a libgtk-x11-2.0 deb, but I couldn't find one.
>
> Install the "apt-file" package; it has a tool that allows you to search
> filenames in all packages known to apt. In your case
>
> apt-file search libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
>
> will tell you that your missing library is part of the "libgtk2.0-0"
> package.
>
> --
> Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
> Florian |
>
>
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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:20:59 +0300
From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Opera vs Kmail, Kontact, Konversation
Message-ID: <20070905162059.GH5705@think.homenet>
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 03:49:13PM -0400, Rick wrote:
> Notice, that Opera can do all of this (email, usenet, rss feeds, irc, web=
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> surfing, contacts... and more, inside one app, and all at the same time.=
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> Now that I said that.... is anyone running Opera using All of its abiliti=
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> and if so, ANY problems have you notice? (corruption?) loss data ?..etc
I tried to use Opera for mail but:
- no GPG
- no reply-to-list
Regards,
Andrei
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If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)
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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:43:16 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: crontab -e
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On 09/03/07 19:46, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 05:22:28PM -0700, Raquel wrote:
>> I have a new install of Etch. When I issue the command
>> #crontab -e
>> I get the nano editor. I would really rather use the vim editor.
>> How do I change what gets used?
>
> Do you have an EDITOR environment variable set? The man page says that
> it follows EDITOR or VISUAL if set. If not, it likely follows
> sensible-editor which is part of the debian alternatives system.
vim not installed???
Who doesn't install vim?
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Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!
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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:50:03 -0500
From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: package system broken by aptitude removing cupsys -- correction
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On 09/05/2007 09:39 AM, Steve Newcomb wrote:
> [...]
> One of the simple tasks that I have never succeeded in getting Cupsys to
> do, even after many hours of fiddling, was to describe the same
> printer hardware in two ways, one simplex and one duplex.
> [...]
I had an unfortunate run-in also where I couldn't get cups to work
despite reading and re-reading the manuals. Lprng *just works* after
you've followed the simple instructions.
>> Try the experiment you described: install Lenny from netinst, install
>> python2.5, then remove cupsys. If the problem recurs, then you might
>> have found a bug.
>
> I already did exactly that, except that I also installed cvs, emacs,
> and ssh-server, too, and I don't believe that those packages are
> implicated. Therefore, I think I've found the bug already. And I
> have a workaround: just remove cupsys first of all, *before*
> installing python-2.5.
>
I'm glad you fixed it.
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