debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2318

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2318

Today's Topics:

  Re: Setting [u|f]mask on a bind moun  [ Glen Pfeiffer  ]
  Re: inserting line breals             [ "Michael Marsh"  ]
  Re: Disk not listed in /dev/disk/by-  [ Pjotr Malienki  ]
  Re: Thinking about devoting a seriou  [ blues  ]
  Network cards changed after kernel u  [ Eriberto  ]
  Managing grub/menu.lst with multiple  [ KS  ]

  Re: Netatalk stopped working on Sid [ Aaron Hall <lisps@vitaphone.net> ]   Disk not listed in /dev/disk/by-uuid [ pinniped <cirilo_bernardo@yahoo.com ]

Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:45:26 -0700
From: Glen Pfeiffer <glen@thepfeiffers.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Setting [u|f]mask on a bind mount

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On 09/01/2007 01:00 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
>> I tried mounting a directory like so:
>>
>> mount --bind -o umask=0117 /home/files /home/glen/files
>>
>> What I am shooting for, is that all files created in
>> /home/glen/files will have the permissions 660.
>
> But those are the same files as files in another directory, right?
> The files can't have different permissions in different places.
>
> Or are you simply trying to make the files when created have a
> specific permission? If so then umask is the only way.

Yes, I am trying to change the default permissions of *newly created* files. That is why I tried umask, but it doesn't work with a bind mount.

> You would have to change the original mount point options in
> order to do this. The directory would need to be on its own
> filesystem. You could create a filesystem specific for this
> purpose. Then you could bind mount it anywhere else fine.

I can't believe I didn't think of this earlier, but my /home is on a separate partition. I changed the umask in /etc/fstab - but that didn't work either. I got errors about a bad superblock when mounting.

> This is a good place for a plug for LVM because then a new
> mount point could be created very easily.

I will consider that if I ever rebuild.  

> Perhaps saying a little more about the overall problem that you
> are trying to solve will spark an idea from someone on the
> mailing list.

My reasons for this stem from paranoia. I see no reason to allow the world read access by default. Since it is on my home network it is overkill, but I like to prepare for the unknown. For example: I will have house guests that I want to allow use of my computers. But I don't want them to have read access to the shared "family" documents. So I want documents created within that directory to have permissions of 660. I have set the sticky group bit, so created files are owned by the family group.

-- 
Glen 

Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:20:58 +0100 From: Martin Waller <martinej.waller@ntlworld.com> To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Cc: Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help! Update screwed my box up 'automagically'! Message-ID: <46DF019A.30409@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff D wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2007, Martin Waller wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> No idea whats gone wrong - I did a get updates thing using dselect
>> whilst installing some other software and find loads of my
>> configurations have changed.
>>
>> I guess its a result of this: http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20070817
>>
>> First, my /boot/grub/menu.lst has been dicked around with:
>> - originally I had two options - multi and single user mode (Debian
>> GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-4-686)
>> now I have four with kernel 2.6.18-5-86 options higher up the
>> list...this stopped my network from working unless I select the now
>> not default option I wanted originally. I remember some operating
>> system called Windows that dicked around with configuration files
>> without asking - I avoid it wherever possible.. Don't tell me Debian
>> has gone this way? *rolls eyes*.
>> Does this mean my kernel has been updated automatically? Please no.
>>
>> Secondly, OK so I can delete that crap from my menu.lst or select the
>> other oirignal options - but now my X sessions all start up in
>> 640x480 (gnome) and I can't change the resolution!
>>
>> I'd got all this set up nicely, and a simple update dicks around with
>> stuff and screws up my system - how can this be possible?
>>
>> I guess I need 'educating' in how Debian operates now, and how to
>> 'undo' the bad side effects I'm suffering, but if I can't resolve
>> this stuff I'll switch distros. I've only just updated from
>> Debian3.1 where I never had such issues - I'm upset and confused.
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>>
>> Martin
>
> First thing, take a deep breath. It will be fine. Second, read this:
> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. As 'help I just
> updated my kernel and now stuff is broke', really doesn't help anyone,
> epseicially you. How are we to advise you on that?
>
> Anyway, did this happen in the transition from sarge to etch? or after
> the etch upgrade? What kind of network card do you have? Any reason
> you were doing this through dselect rather than apt-get or aptitude?
> Maybe even a 'aptitude update && aptitude upgrade' may solve some of
> these issues for you as well..
>
>
> For your video problem, you can try :
> dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
>
> that might clear that up.
>
> But, in order for anyone to help you, you're going to have to give us
> some more info.
>
> Thx
> Jeff
OK - understood the problem now. The problem was I _didn't_ upgrade the kernel - a did an update (via dselect with apt sources) and 'automatically' got a latest kernel image installed, _prepending_ it to my grub\menu.lst so it became the default. I am a bit behind the times - my kernel only ever got 'updated' when _I_ chose it and built it from scratch using kpkg (or was it kernel_pkg?). You know what I mean... This prevented my network card from working as its an acx100 thing ('specially compiled' (as a module I think from befuddled recollection) with acx100 package). The X resolution problem was booting up without having the monitor connected - X appears more 'windoze' like now and seems to 'auto detect' monitor capability - none attached, lowest res used. When monitor attached (have switch between different boxes) it brings up expected resolution. I'm happy with that as I remember configuring X in the old days with bizarre crappo video cards and cheap monitors with little documentation on their horiz/vertical refresh rates...that was fun :) >:( With regards to your response, for which I am grateful: "First thing, take a deep breath. It will be fine. Second, read this: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. As 'help I just updated my kernel and now stuff is broke', really doesn't help anyone, epseicially you. How are we to advise you on that? " Sorry - i said 'update' as it thats what I did, not _upgrade_. Yes, I am aware everything will be fine (and it kind of is now)- with more time investment since the goalposts have moved since earlier versions of Debian which I cut my teeth on. "Any reason you were doing this through dselect rather than apt-get or aptitude?" How do I get a list of packages installed/availbale through the apt interface? If I can I will happily move on from dselect which I know and is easy to use and anyway uses uses apt sources. Again, down to cutting teeth on older verisons of debian... I accept a a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and sincerely thank you for your response which was of use and informative. I am merely surprised that doing an 'update available packages' in dselect automatically installed a new kernel image and made it the default boot option in my grub menu.lst. Now fixed. Best wishes, a friendly interaction is always a pleasant one, Martin

Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:40:09 -0400 From: Nathan <debian@ucwv.edu> To: Michael Marsh <michael.a.marsh@gmail.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: inserting line breals Message-ID: <46DF0619.20606@ucwv.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Marsh wrote:
> On 9/5/07, Nathan <debian@ucwv.edu> wrote:
>> I've found a perl script on the 'Net that does a very good job of
>> recursively searching a directory of sub-directories and files. I pipe
>> the output to the 'mail' program and email it to myself. However it
>> would help the readability of the text if I could add an extra line
>> break (carriage return) to each existing line break. Effectively I
>> would to double-space it.
>>
>> I am not a perl guru in any shape or form. Can anyone offer suggestions
>> on the best way to go about this? Thanks.
>
> The following one-liner should do it (it works for me):
>
> perl -pe '$_ .= "\n"' <filename>
>
> You could also do the following:
>
> perl -pi.bak -e '$_ .= "\n"' <filename>
>
> <filename> will now contain the double-spaced text, and <filename>.bak
> will contain the original file.
>
> Here's how it works:
> "-p" uses an implicit
> while(<>)
> {
> # foo
> print $_;
> }
> with "# foo" replaced by your provided script. "-e" specifies that
> the next string is the script to run. "-i.bak" says to do in-line
> replacement, moving the original to a file with ".bak" as the
> extension. You could use any extension you like here.
>
> Since $_ will be printed automatically, we append (".=") a newline to it.
>
That seems to do the trick, however I'm finding that it isn't matching when I do a case insensitive search for something that isn't a complete word. For example a user name of " nathan " or " Nathan " works. But DOMAIN\Nathan gets skipped. How can I fix that? Thanks for all of the help! Nathan

Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:45:21 -0400 From: "Michael Marsh" <michael.a.marsh@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: inserting line breals Message-ID: <ceb0ad00709051245g64cefdbhe103584a0c8a42dc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/5/07, Nathan <debian@ucwv.edu> wrote:
> Michael Marsh wrote:
> > The following one-liner should do it (it works for me):
> >
> > perl -pe '$_ .= "\n"' <filename>
> >
> > You could also do the following:
> >
> > perl -pi.bak -e '$_ .= "\n"' <filename>
> >
> > <filename> will now contain the double-spaced text, and <filename>.bak
> > will contain the original file.
> That seems to do the trick, however I'm finding that it isn't matching
> when I do a case insensitive search for something that isn't a complete
> word. For example a user name of " nathan " or " Nathan " works. But
> DOMAIN\Nathan gets skipped.
>
> How can I fix that? Thanks for all of the help!
There's no matching going on here. What are you trying to do that isn't working? -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh http://mamarsh.blogspot.com http://36pints.blogspot.com

Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:57:59 +0200 From: Sjoerd Hiemstra <shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Where and how do I install a TTF font? Message-Id: <20070905215759.5813d614.shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mumia W.."
> Sjoerd Hiemstra:
> > Nelson A. de Oliveira:
> > > Mumia W..:
> > > > See if you can get the barcode font embedded in the PDF file.
> > >
> > > The PDF is generated by a third part online system that we use
> > > here. We don't have control over the PDF.
> > > We want to change all machines running Windows to Linux, but the
> > > only missing thing is this barcode font on the PDFs. Windows
> > > displays them correctly while we couldn't make it works on
> > > Linux :-/
> >
> > I work at a printshop where I have tools to take a closer look at
> > the pdf. It appears that *none* of the fonts are included or
> > embedded. These are: Times New Roman, Times New Roman Bold, Arial,
> > Arial Bold, Arial Bold Italic, Bar25if. So none of these fonts are
> > guaranteed to look like the original on your screen.
> > Moreover, Bar25if could not be embedded due to "licensing
> > limitations".
> >
> > This means that the pdf is simply a bad one, and not acceptable!
> > All fonts should be included, so the pdf will display well on a
> > system where these fonts are not installed. That is precisely the
> > purpose of a pdf.
> >
> > What I could do is to turn all characters into outlines
> > ('vectorize' the characters) so no fonts are needed, and make a new
> > pdf out of this. It's a big one: 4.3 MB, but if you can use it, get
> > it with this command:
> >
> > wget http://home.kpnplanet.nl/~shiems@kpnplanet.nl/giap.pdf
> >
> > I suppose you could also do this with programs like pdfedit and
> > inkscape.
>
> I was also able to create a version of giap.pdf with the barcode font
> rendered into the file. I hope it doesn't violate the distribution
> restrictions. I actually don't know if the font is rendered or
> embedded, but I do know what I did to create the new version of the
> file.
>
> First here is the file:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~mumia.w.18.spam/giap3.pdf (272K)
>
> I used ghostscript (gs-gpl). I set GS_FONTPATH to the directory in
> which Bar25if.ttf was located, and then I ran ghostscript with
> appropriate options:
>
> export GS_FONTPATH=$PWD
> gs -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=giap3.pdf giap.pdf
> unset GS_FONTPATH
>
> Sjored, please tell me if this was done appropriately (not violating
> the license). I was hoping to get ghostscript to "vectorize" the
> barcode glyphs, but I really don't know /what/ ghostscript did.
>
> Xpdf, evince and kpdf all show the barcodes just fine 8-)
Surprise: all the fonts in giap3.pdf are embedded correctly, not rendered. So missing fonts can be added to a pdf this way. The only thing that makes me scratch my head is some of gs's verbose output: Substituting font Times-Roman for TimesNewRoman. Substituting font Times-Roman for TimesNewRoman,Bold. Substituting font Helvetica-Oblique for Arial,BoldItalic. Substituting font Helvetica for Arial,Bold. So bold fonts have turned into regular in the resulting pdf, despite the fact that they have been installed by the msttcorefonts package. I guess it'll take some more study of how to make fonts available to Ghostscript. The 'licensing limitations' concern the fonts themselves. Many fonts, including non-free, licensed ones, are allowed to be embedded into pdf's. Then there are fonts that are not allowed to do so, but which still can be included as a subset, i.e. only the used characters are inserted, and those characters are not editable. Finally, fonts exist that are not even allowed to be included as a subset. It seems that the font that the OP posted was one of them. But for most fonts it does not appear to be a problem to enclose them in pdf's this way.

Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:12:24 +0200 From: wimpunk <kwdpggwxwumz@spammotel.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Bluetooth mouse not connecting using Lenny Message-ID: <olb3r4-0v5.ln1@tisnix.motzarella.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi List, Since my upgrade to Lenny, my mouse doesn't connect automatically anymore. To get my mouse working, I have to remove my USB bluetooth dongle and put it back. I've compared the modules before and after but everything is the same. Any one a suggestion what's going wrong? Kind regards, wimpunk.

Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:53:22 +0200 From: Davide Mancusi <arekfu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Two Xorg processes? Message-ID: <46DF1742.6000405@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Florian Kulzer ha scritto:
> Did you at some point in the past use "Switch User" to start a new
> session on tty8? It would be interesting to know what options are used
> when the second Xorg process is started. Here is what I see:
>=20
> $ pstree -a $(pgrep -P1 kdm)
> kdm -config /var/run/kdm/kdmrc
> =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80Xorg -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/=
XXXXXXXXXX
> =E2=94=94=E2=94=80kdm
> =E2=94=94=E2=94=80startkde /usr/bin/startkde
> =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80kwrapper ksmserver
> =E2=94=94=E2=94=80ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-=
session /usr/bin/startkde
>=20
> This should tell you on which VT the second Xorg process is running; yo=
u
> can then switch to that VT and check out what is going on. (I think it
> should never happen that two Xorg processes are attached to the same
> VT; lockfiles in /tmp are supposed to prevent that.)
>=20
Thanks for the interest and the good idea. However... $ pstree -a $(pgrep -P1 kdm) kdm -config /var/run/kdm/kdmrc =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80Xorg -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/X= XXXXXXXXX =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80Xorg -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var= /run/xauth/XXXXXXXXXX =E2=94=94=E2=94=80kdm =E2=94=94=E2=94=80startkde /usr/bin/startkde =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80kwrapper ksmserver =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80seahorse-agent --execute /usr/bin/startkde =E2=94=94=E2=94=80ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-s= ession... (The last line is cut.) I also checked the lock file: $ cat /tmp/.X0-lock 4526 which is the pid of the first Xorg instance (unsurprisingly). What now? Davide --=20 A tautology is a thing which is tautological. -- Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:13:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Pjotr Malienki <pjotr.malienki@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Disk not listed in /dev/disk/by-uuid Message-ID: <235434.13384.qm@web63807.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> what does 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/' and 'ls -l
/dev/disk/by-id/' show? I did not mention this clearly enough, the disk is not shown AT ALL in /dev/disk/by-uuid. =20 _________________________________________________________________________= ___________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who know= s. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=3Dlist&sid=3D396545469

Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:15:18 +0200 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Two Xorg processes? Message-ID: <20070905211518.GA8489@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 22:53:22 +0200, Davide Mancusi wrote:
> Florian Kulzer ha scritto:
>> Did you at some point in the past use "Switch User" to start a new
>> session on tty8? It would be interesting to know what options are used
>> when the second Xorg process is started. Here is what I see:
[...]
>> This should tell you on which VT the second Xorg process is running; you
>> can then switch to that VT and check out what is going on. (I think it
>> should never happen that two Xorg processes are attached to the same
>> VT; lockfiles in /tmp are supposed to prevent that.)
>
> Thanks for the interest and the good idea. However...
>
> $ pstree -a $(pgrep -P1 kdm)
> kdm -config /var/run/kdm/kdmrc
> =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80Xorg -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/XX=
XXXXXXXX
> =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80Xorg -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/=
run/xauth/XXXXXXXXXX
> =E2=94=94=E2=94=80kdm
> =E2=94=94=E2=94=80startkde /usr/bin/startkde
> =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80kwrapper ksmserver
> =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80seahorse-agent --execute /usr/bin/startkde
> =E2=94=94=E2=94=80ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-se=
ssion...
>
> (The last line is cut.)
>
> I also checked the lock file:
> $ cat /tmp/.X0-lock
> 4526
> which is the pid of the first Xorg instance (unsurprisingly).
>
> What now?
I would log out and check if the second Xorg process is still there, to see if the problem is tied to your account or not. Then I would temporarily switch to xdm or gdm and check if the anomaly is still occurring. This will hopefully tell us if we have to start poking around in the kdm configuration or in the configuration files of X itself. /var/log/kdm.log might also be worth a look. --=20 Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |

Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:00:50 -0500 From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Where and how do I install a TTF font? Message-ID: <46DF2712.20400@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 09/05/2007 02:57 PM, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:
> [...]
> The 'licensing limitations' concern the fonts themselves. Many fonts,
> including non-free, licensed ones, are allowed to be embedded into
> pdf's. Then there are fonts that are not allowed to do so, but which
> still can be included as a subset, i.e. only the used characters are
> inserted, and those characters are not editable.
> Finally, fonts exist that are not even allowed to be included as a
> subset. It seems that the font that the OP posted was one of them.
Thanks. So I have to remove giap3.pdf from the website. How could I find out what the licensing restrictions are? Ghostscript didn't say anything when I converted the file.
> But for most fonts it does not appear to be a problem to enclose them
> in pdf's this way.
>
>
That's good to know. It seems that I can render the fonts by converting the file to Postscript: export GS_FONTPATH=$PWD # (Bar25if.ttf is in the same directory) pdf2ps giap.pdf giap.ps ps2pdf giap.ps giap4.pdf unset GS_FONTPATH

Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:46:49 +0200 From: Davide Mancusi <arekfu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Two Xorg processes? Message-ID: <46DF31D9.8060108@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Florian Kulzer ha scritto:
> I would log out and check if the second Xorg process is still there, to
> see if the problem is tied to your account or not.
Still there.
> Then I would temporarily switch to xdm or gdm and check if the anomaly
> is still occurring. This will hopefully tell us if we have to start
> poking around in the kdm configuration or in the configuration files of
> X itself.
> > /var/log/kdm.log might also be worth a look. I tried with gdm and I got the same result. I turned then to the kdm log file and to xorg.conf. The only interesting line in kdm.log was the following: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found ...which reminds me that my video card has an unused exit port (a DVI port? I can't remember). Could this be the reason? It sounds a bit silly to have an X server running if nothing is connected to the DVI port, but who knows... How can I test this hypothesis? Davide -- A tautology is a thing which is tautological. -- Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:38:15 -0000 From: blues <bluesbravo@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux... Message-ID: <1189031895.567570.255330@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Sep 4, 10:40 pm, icelinux <iceli...@icelinux.net> wrote:
> > Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future.
>
> In an odd paradox, we can never get rid of copyrights or licenses because then we could not require those companies or persons who sell open source software to make the source code available.
>
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My HD that I installed FC4 on just went out. It did the traditional clicks for several startups and now it is just dead. But, I have an old I Mac that I installed Yellow Dog on a couple of years ago but never used. Do you think YD is a good distro to practice on??

Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:25:12 -0300 From: Eriberto <eriberto@eriberto.pro.br> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Network cards changed after kernel upgrade in Etch Message-ID: <fbndq6$fnh$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I am having problems when I upgrade the Etch in my servers. The NICs designations are changing. For example, in a machine the NIC was eth0 with 2.6.18-4-686 kernel. After the first upgrade, the NIC was renamed to eth1. The same fact occurs with 2.6.21-2 kernel (Etch-backports). What is the cause of this problem? Thanks in advanced. Eriberto - Brazil

Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:35:14 -0400 From: KS <lists04@fastmail.fm> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Managing grub/menu.lst with multiple distros Message-ID: <46DF3D32.6030200@fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I have been trying to find out how to get grub updated for both Debian(Sid) and the recently installed Gutsy(pre-release). Ubuntu's installed installed Grub on hd0 automatically without prompting and I had to reinstall it using Debian's /boot. Is there a way that each of them can update grub (initrd, vmlinuz, menu.lst etc.) automatically upon a kernel upgrade? I have a feeling that it might require sharing the /boot partition by both Debian and Ubuntu. But is it possible, and safe? Ubuntu uses UUIDs for root= in its boot stanza whereas Sid has the regular /dev/sda*. Plus why can the installer only detect a Windows installation and not other Linux distros? or does it so that Ubuntu's installer had a bug! regards, KS.

Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:06:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Aaron Hall <lisps@vitaphone.net> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Netatalk stopped working on Sid Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.0.999.0709051854100.18244@doctorwu.cjoffline.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Peter Gutbrod wrote:
> Netatalk worked on my Debian box some times ago, but I didn't use it much.
> So I can't really say when it actually broke. This week I've updated Sid via
> aptitude and found Netatalk (2.3.0-6) to be broken.
>
> I get the following in syslog of the debian box, when I try to contact to a
> new clean (without .AppleXX files) homedir from a Mac OS X box via AFP:
[snip logs] I had the very same problem, and it looked to me like libdb got updated and Netatalk couldn't cope.
> Spent several hours to fix it without success. Tried as well to build from
> the source package, but conflicting build dependencies prevented this.
I didn't take notes, but IIRC there was a conflict between heimdal and libkrb5/cupsys dev packages. I solved it by allowing heimdal to remain uninstalled, since I don't use it (or kerberos, for that matter). Then I removed --enable-krb4-uam and --enable-krbV-uam from the DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS in debian/rules. Netatalk then built just fine. You'll still have to whack the .AppleDB dirs from your shares, but not the .AppleDesktop or .AppleDouble. Do this while netatalk is not running.
> Then installed Netatalk 2.3.0-4 from lenny but that didn't help as well.
>
> Probably it has to something to do with the Berkeley DB but I have no clue
> how to find out what is wrong.
Sounds like it to me. There's at least a couple of bugs filed against netatalk for this: #421950 and #435210. - Aaron -- Aaron Hall : If you can't get something right, then the ahall@vitaphone.net : objective should be to do everything wrong : that it is possible to do wrong.

Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 01:56:57 +0200 (CEST) From: pinniped <cirilo_bernardo@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Disk not listed in /dev/disk/by-uuid Message-Id: <listhandler=2&site=www.debianhelp.org&nid=9994&pid=&cid=35831&uid=76&tid=79&e4b1508fc73fa220122293e952f41a3e@www.debianhelp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>I am having problems mounting one of my USB disks by
>its UUID.
(snip)
>Any hints, pointers, or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Do you really mean USB disk (HD via USB) or USB sticks? I'm just curious;= the USB flash memory may not have a UUID. A possible workaround is to use 'udevinfo' to work out how to uniquely id= entify each device. Using that information, you add a udev rule to add a= symlink of your choice, for example, "usb_backup". End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2318 ************************************************** Received on Wed Sep 5 21:08:13 2007