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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2326

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2326

Today's Topics: 

  Re: LSI Logic 1068 controller         [ "Mirco Piccin"  ]
  Re: why sarge is so noisy             [ David Brodbeck  ]
  Re: why sarge is so noisy             [ "Mumia W.." 
  Re: Unblocking sound card, or adding  [ swm <swm@swm1.com> ]



Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 21:17:05 +0200


From: "Mirco Piccin" <pictux@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: LSI Logic 1068 controller


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Hi!

> LSI Logic 1068 controller is supported in the debian linux?

Probably this:


Do you need help?X
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html

is a good start point, but your controller is not reported.
If you are going to buy a new raid sata controller card,  you can  be sure
that  3ware is full supported (it's quite expensive...).



Hope it helps you!


Bye



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Hi!<br>&gt; LSI Logic 1068 controller is supported in the debian linux?<br>Probably this:<br><br>http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html<br><br>is a good start point, but your controller is not reported.
<br>If you are going to buy a new raid sata controller card,&nbsp; you can&nbsp; be sure that&nbsp; 3ware is full supported (it&#39;s quite expensive...).<br><br>Hope it helps you!<br>Bye<br>



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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:33:13 -0700


From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu>
To: List Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: why sarge is so noisy

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Do you need more help?X

On Sep 7, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Mumia W.. wrote:


> On 09/07/2007 11:58 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:
>> Also, Linux is very aggressive about swapping out idle pages.  
>> (Some would even say too aggressive.)  Even if you have what you  
>> think is plenty of RAM, it's quite likely Linux will swap out some  
>> stuff in order to make more room for the disk cache.
>
> Is there a way to disable this aggressive swapping?

In 2.6.x kernels, you can write a number from 0 to 100 onto /proc/sys/ 
vm/swappiness.  The higher the number, the more aggressively the  
kernel will swap.  The default appears to be 60.  Keep in mind that  
there's a balancing act here -- if you set this to a low number,  
you'll get less swapping, but you'll also have less disk cache.   
There's a good summary of the arguments for and against tweaking it  
here:

http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000

2.4.x didn't have any way to tune this.  But the virtual memory  
system in 2.4.x has so many unpleasant behaviors, anyway, that I'd  
really suggest upgrading if you're experiencing problems in this area.



Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:34:55 +0200


From: "Andrea S. Gozzi" <as.gozzi@vp44.net>
To: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
Cc: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: why sarge is so noisy

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On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 13:40 -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:

> On 09/07/2007 11:58 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:
> > 
> > Also, Linux is very aggressive about swapping out idle pages. (Some 
> > would even say too aggressive.)  Even if you have what you think is 
> > plenty of RAM, it's quite likely Linux will swap out some stuff in order 
> > to make more room for the disk cache.
> > 
> 
> Is there a way to disable this aggressive swapping?
> 
> 

You could try tuning /proc/sys/vm/swappiness but I'm not sure sarge kernel supports it.


Can we help you?X

Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:07:01 -0400


From: "Thomas H. George" <lists@tomgeorge.info>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Netinst Fails to Recognize SATA Components

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I purchased an HP desktop with a SATA hard drive and a SATA dvdrom/cdrw 
and added a second SATA hard drive on which I want to install Debian Etch.



I downloaded debian-40r1-amd64-netinst.iso, burnt a cd and booted the 
box with the cd.  Initially all went well - i.e. the netinst program 
booted and starting asking questions.  Then it hung saying it needed a 
cdrom driver and asking for a floppy.  There is no floppy drive.



If happens that last spring I loaded testing netinstall on a usb stick.  
I still have it so I booted the box from the usb stick.  All went well  
until the step for  formatting a hard drive.  The only hard drive 
recognized was the usb stick itself!  This doesn't work; I already made 
that mistake last spring.



Clearly the SATA components are not recognized  by either programs.



I have also booted the box from a Debian Live cd and that works fine.  
My network uses static IP addresses which were set when I built the cd 
so I can go online with no problem, run xfce and do other nice things.  
My only problem is installing Debian on the second hard drive.   (Note: 
My daughter's employer insists on XP so that's on the first hard drive.)



Any suggestions?


Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:19:50 -0400


From: "Thomas H. George" <lists@tomgeorge.info>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: wodim:Can't Set SG_SET_TIMEOUT

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I have an Etch box with a linux-image-2.6.18-5-k7.  All works well but



    wodim -devices


    Beginning native device scan.  This may take a while ...
    wodim:  Invalid argument.  Cannot Set  SG_SET_TIMEOUT



Apt-get install wodim confirms I have the latest release.  I have also 
run apt-get dist-upgrade but still get the same result from wodim -devices.



What's wrong?



Tom George


Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:45:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" <bg271828@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2325

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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:26:10 -0400


From: Mark Grieveson <dg135@torfree.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Unblocking sound card, or adding stream (newbie)



 On Fri,  7 Sep 2007 07:54:23 +0000 (UTC)
debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org wrote:


> I have a laptop with a sound card that only supports a
> single stream. (People on #debian helped me figure
> this out.) This is annoying not because i want to play
> twelve different sypmhonies at once through high-def
> systems, but just so i can listen to music while
> getting beeps from Gaim, or whatever.
>=20
> If theres no way to do this, bummer i guess. But my
> problem is that sometimes i seem to have something
> blocking the sound card and i cant figure out what it
> is. I dont THINK im running any sound thing ,but then
> if i try to run xmms i get a "something's blocking
> your sound card" message, or if i play a YouTube video
> i just get no sound at all.
>=20
> When this happens, how do i find out what's blocking
> hte sound card, and how do i kill this so i can play
> what i want?
>=20
> Thanks.

Sound on laptops can be tricky.  One old laptop I had would not work
with alsa, so I had to enable an oss module on boot up by adding a line
to the /etc/modules file.  But I digress.



I'm going to assume that you're using Etch, with alsa for your
soundcard, and that you're using gnome for your desktop environment (if
these assumptions are not correct, then kindly let us know).  So, to
get sound working on gaim, and other gnome applications, open
Desktop/Preferences/Sound (from the menu in the top left corner), and,
having opened the Sound Preferences dialogue, check the "Enable
software sound mixing (ESD)" box, along with the "Play system sounds"
box, and then you will have all the bells and whistles that go with the
desktop environment, and its programs.  Make sure you have gnome-media
installed.=20



Yes, this is all correct (Etch, alsa, Gnome). And i'd already checked the=
 ESD box (though i kept the "system sounds" box off, as i dont need to he=
ar this!).


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The fact that xmms and/or youtube doesn't give you sound is worrying.
Do you have alsa-base, alsa-oss, alsa-tools, and alsa-utils installed?
If not, install them (via synaptic or aptitude -- aptitude, if you know
what you're doing, is better, but if not, then synaptic is better).
Try restarting your system, to see if sound is set up automatically (it
should).  If not, try running "alsaconf" in the terminal as root
(without quotes).


I may have been unclear but its not that i dont get sound from these--its=
 that when one source IS playing sound, then i cant use any of the others=
, so if i have XMMS playing i cant watch (that is, listen) to YouTube. An=
d then if something that I CANT FIGURE OUT is playing, i cant use any of =
the others and dont know what to do about it (ie., if i know im listening=
 to XMMS i can stop if i need to watch YouTube but i am getting "sound ca=


rd in use" messages when i dont think im using anything at all).



Several other people have made suggestions, and i thank you and will try =
them when i get back to my Debian machine!



Jen



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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 21:16:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: Felix Karpfen <felixk@webone.com.au>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject:  Re: Acceptable CPU temperature range of idle computer?

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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:29:08 +0200, J=C3=B6rg-Volker Peetz wrote:


Can we help you?X

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:29:08 +0200, J=C3=B6rg-Volker Peetz wrote:


> Felix Karpfen wrote:
>> Since upgrading from Sarge to Etch, my CPU temperature appears to be
>> running 5-10 deg.C higher
>>=20
>> Am I heading for a problem?
>>=20
>> The documentation says that the CPU is:
>>=20
>> "Socket 478 for Intel4/Celeron"
>>=20


By diligent lurking, I have discovered the existence of the "lshw"
package.  It identifies all the installed hardware; this includes the
following info (which may be relevant):




  *-core

       description: Motherboard
       product: P4S800
       vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
          version: ASUS P4S800 ACPI BIOS Revision 1006 (12/31/2003)
          size: 64KB
          capacity: 192KB
     *-cpu
          description: CPU
          product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.60GHz
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 4
          bus info: cpu@0
          version: 15.2.9
          slot: PGA 478
          size: 2600MHz
          capacity: 3733MHz
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 100MHz
          capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce c=

Can't find what you're looking for?X



x8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse=
2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr


>> and I have failed to locate any reference to an acceptable temperature
>> range.
>>=20
>> All advice will be gratefully received.
>>=20
> Although you don't seem to refer to a notebook computer, this site may
> be of some help:
> http://www.linuxpowertop.org/
>=20


Suggested link is flagged for download.


>From the supplied description, it looks helpful - even if it does not

address my problem directly.


> On notebook computers with no load I see temperatures (with the command
> acpi -V) as follows:
> pentium 4m     1.9 GHz: 45 deg C
> pentium-m      2 GHz  : 41 deg C
> turion64 MT-40 2.2 GHz: 50 deg C
>=20
> Under load these cpus can heat up far above 60 deg C.
>From which I conclude that CPUs can cope with temperatures of 60 deg C.

Many thanks.


Don't know where to look next?X

Felix





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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 23:08:22 +0200


From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2325

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On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 13:45:26 -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:



[...]


> I may have been unclear but its not that i dont get sound from
> these--its that when one source IS playing sound, then i cant use any
> of the others, so if i have XMMS playing i cant watch (that is,
> listen) to YouTube. And then if something that I CANT FIGURE OUT is
> playing, i cant use any of the others and dont know what to do about
> it (ie., if i know im listening to XMMS i can stop if i need to watch
> YouTube but i am getting "sound card in use" messages when i dont
> think im using anything at all).

lsof -w /dev/{dsp,snd/*}


Confused? Frustrated?X

or



fuser /dev/{dsp,snd/*}



should show you which processes are blocking the sound devices.


> Several other people have made suggestions, and i thank you and will
> try them when i get back to my Debian machine!
> 
> Jen
-- 
Regards,            | 
http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
          Florian   |


Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:28:26 -0400
From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Netinst Fails to Recognize SATA Components
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Thomas H. George wrote:

> I purchased an HP desktop with a SATA hard drive and a SATA 
> dvdrom/cdrw and added a second SATA hard drive on which I want to 
> install Debian Etch.
>
>
> Clearly the SATA components are not recognized  by either programs.
>

I had that problem with a couple of servers a while back.  I just 
checked my logbook on how I fixed it, and the note said: "go into BIOS, 
set SATA mode to IDE."  That did it for me.



Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 23:39:50 +0200
From: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb@tiscali.fr>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Unblocking sound card, or adding stream (newbie)
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On Friday 07 September 2007 05:30, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

> I have a laptop with a sound card that only supports a
> single stream. (People on #debian helped me figure
> this out.) This is annoying not because i want to play
> twelve different sypmhonies at once through high-def
> systems, but just so i can listen to music while
> getting beeps from Gaim, or whatever.
>
> If theres no way to do this, bummer i guess. But my
> problem is that sometimes i seem to have something
> blocking the sound card and i cant figure out what it
> is. I dont THINK im running any sound thing ,but then
> if i try to run xmms i get a "something's blocking
> your sound card" message, or if i play a YouTube video
> i just get no sound at all.
>
> When this happens, how do i find out what's blocking
> hte sound card, and how do i kill this so i can play
> what i want?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jen


I've had this problem with a soundcard on one of my 2 machines that isn't 
capable of dealing with multiple audio streams.

As an example I start Gaim, and at the same time am listening to Internet 
radio, which uses the realplayer plugin. The radio is ok, and I'm chatting 
away on Gaim, but getting no sounds from Gaim.

I now close Opera which is connected to the Internet radio, and all the sounds 
from my conversion on Gaim start to play. A bit weird. They have all been 
stacked up, and play one after the other.

The way around it for me, is to install the alsa-oss package, and start Opera 
as.
aoss opera

Now I can listen to Internet radio, and get the Gaim sounds, or play another 
music app at the same time as the radio is playing.

To see what is grabbing the soundcard you can run:
/usr/sbin/lsof -n | grep /dev/dsp

Other suspects are. On Gnome the ESD sound server, and on KDE the ArtS 
soundserver. I use KDE, and always disable the ArtS sound server on the 
machine that has the Ensoniq card (ens1371 driver) 

My other machine has an Audigy2 soundblaster (emu10k1), and is capable of 
handling multiple audio streams. I can play as many music apps as I want to 
at a time on this card. You may find one of these on E-bay, but make sure 
it's one that uses the emu10k1 driver.

Xmms works ok for me on both machines, but I tried to help someone resolve 
their Xmms problem on the French Debian list to no avail. I normally use 
MhWaveedit for playing my music, and that works fine on both machines, but 
can't say I'm too clued up on Xmms problems.

Just a few suggestions.

Nigel.



Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:02:04 -0500
From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: why sarge is so noisy
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On 09/07/2007 02:34 PM, Andrea S. Gozzi wrote:

> On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 13:40 -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
>> On 09/07/2007 11:58 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:
>>> Also, Linux is very aggressive about swapping out idle pages. (Some 
>>> would even say too aggressive.)  Even if you have what you think is 
>>> plenty of RAM, it's quite likely Linux will swap out some stuff in order 
>>> to make more room for the disk cache.
>>>
>> Is there a way to disable this aggressive swapping?
>>
>>
> 
> You could try tuning /proc/sys/vm/swappiness but I'm not sure sarge kernel supports it.
> 


Thanks. I've compiled 2.6.22 from source, so I'll try that.



Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:58:25 +0100
From: Chris Lale <chrislale@untrammelled.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: apt-get problems (lm-sensors)
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Florian Kulzer wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 12:24:43 +0200, chris wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just upgraded (partialy) to ETCH from Sarge.
> 
> Does "partially" mean "without reading the release notes"?
> 
>> but some dependencies did not meet.
>>
>> when I try e.g.
>> apt-get install nmap
>>
>> i get following:
> 
> [ snip: signs of an incomplete XFree86 to X.Org transition ]
> 
>> Preparing to replace lm-sensors 1:2.10.1-3 (using .../lm-
>> sensors_1%3a2.10.1-3_i386.deb) ...
>> Unpacking replacement lm-sensors ...
>> /etc/modutils/0keep: line 9: keep: command not found
>> Error while executing /etc/modutils/0keep, aborting
>> dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 1
>> dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
>> /etc/modutils/0keep: line 9: keep: command not found
>> Error while executing /etc/modutils/0keep, aborting
>> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lm-
>> sensors_1%3a2.10.1-3_i386.deb (--unpack):
>>  subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1
>> /etc/modutils/0keep: line 9: keep: command not found
>> Error while executing /etc/modutils/0keep, aborting
>> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
>>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
>> Errors were encountered while processing:
>>  /var/cache/apt/archives/lm-sensors_1%3a2.10.1-3_i386.deb
>> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>>
>> I really don't understand what it means using .../lm-
>> sensors_1%3a2.10.1-3_i386.deb (I did not want to install it - I
>> already installed lm-sensors 1:2.10.1-3
> 
> Most probably the previous installation attempt was not successful; this
> means that apt has to try again at every opportunity.
> 
>> can anybody suggest anything to try to move forward with this.
> 
> Read
> 
> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.html
> 
> especially sections 5.2 (kernel upgrade and module-init-tools) and 5.3
> (XFree86 to X.Org). Try to remember exactly what you did so far and
> decide if you think that you can still fix these issues or if it will be
> easier to install Etch "from scratch" (after backing up your $HOME).
> 


You might also find this approach [1] useful. Dates from before Etch became stable.

[1]
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Aptitude_-_using_together_with_Synaptic_and_Apt-get#Upgrading_from_Sarge_to_Etch


-- 
Chris.


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Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:57:27 -0500
From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: why sarge is so noisy
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On 09/07/2007 02:33 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:

> [...]  There's a good 
> summary of the arguments for and against tweaking it here:
> http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000
> 
> 2.4.x didn't have any way to tune this.  But the virtual memory system 
> in 2.4.x has so many unpleasant behaviors, anyway, that I'd really 
> suggest upgrading if you're experiencing problems in this area.
> 
> 
> 


Thanks for the link. I installed 2.6.22 onto Sarge by compiling from source.

I'll try swappiness at 30 for a while.



Date: 	Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:06:03 -0700
From: swm <swm@swm1.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Unblocking sound card, or adding stream (newbie)
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On Thursday 06 September 2007 20:30, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

> I have a laptop with a sound card that only supports a
> single stream. (People on #debian helped me figure
> this out.) This is annoying not because i want to play
> twelve different sypmhonies at once through high-def
> systems, but just so i can listen to music while
> getting beeps from Gaim, or whatever.
>
> If theres no way to do this, bummer i guess. But my
> problem is that sometimes i seem to have something
> blocking the sound card and i cant figure out what it
> is. I dont THINK im running any sound thing ,but then
> if i try to run xmms i get a "something's blocking
> your sound card" message, or if i play a YouTube video
> i just get no sound at all.
>
> When this happens, how do i find out what's blocking
> hte sound card, and how do i kill this so i can play
> what i want?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jen


Installing xmms-arts might help, at least with the xmms problems.

-Steve

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