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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2335

Today's Topics:

  Altima - A Best Seller @ Best Prices  [ "Nissan Al-Babtain"  ]
  Re: Always falling to grub prompt     [ Wayne Topa  ]
  Re: Always falling to grub prompt     [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  Re: how to compile a xen dom0 kernel  [ Andy Smith  ]

Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 19:50:55 +0300
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Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:24:39 -0400
From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: etc/X11/xorg.conf format change?
Message-ID: <20070909172439.GB6277@buddy.mtntop.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline
Michael M.(mcubed@slashmail.org) is reported to have said:
> I recently reinstalled Debian Lenny and have just realized that my > new /etc/X11/xorg.conf has some substantial differences from the version > I had previously. (I was also using Lenny previously, upgraded from > Etch rather than installed from scratch.) Gone are the "Files" and > "Modules" sections. Yet, at least so far, everything seems to be > working fine. The log indicates that numerous modules are loaded and > contains a line: > > (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" > > I don't have any logs from my previous install to compare, but I did > save the old xorg.conf. > > I guess, as long as there are no problems going forward, it's nothing to > worry about. I just thought I would've seen some discussion about a > change like that -- big chunks of the file going away -- since > historically configuring XFree86/Xorg has often given users headaches > and there has always been a lot of discussion about the conf file. When > did this happen? > > And funnily enough, this is the first time any Linux install has > configured the correct optimal resolution & refresh rate for this > machine & monitor from the get-go. Previously I have had always to edit > the conf file to add it in. >
/usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/NEWS.Debian.gz And/or
/usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg/NEWS.Debian.gz
Wayne
-- Is reading in the bathroom considered Multi-Tasking. _______________________________________________________
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:15:58 -0400 From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Always falling to grub prompt Message-ID: <20070909171558.GA6277@buddy.mtntop.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Victor Munoz(vmunoz@macul.ciencias.uchile.cl) is reported to have said: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:53:20PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > It's late and I'm tired but something looks wrong to me. > > Do you have 4 hard drives or is this one (1) HD with > > > > You say /dev/hdd [(hd1,0)] > > > > But to me /dev/hda -> (hd0,0) > > /hdb -> (hd1,0) > > /hdc -> (hd2,0) > > /hdd -> (hd3,0) > > That would be the logical order, but here hda and hdb have to do with > the cdrom. I get this from dmesg: > > dmesg | grep hda > ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio > hda: HL-DT-ST GCE-8320B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive > hda: ATAPI 40X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 8192kB Cache, DMA > > Then hdc is the 10G disk for Windows, and hdd the 160G disk for sid. > > If I type "root hd(" at the boot prompt, it only gives me 0 and 1 as > options, and a later "kernel" command actually finds vmlinuz in > (hd1,0)/boot. So I guess this is ok. > > > I'm confused. How many HD's do you have, 1 or 2 or ? > > > > 2, as I said, and a cdrom, recognized as hda. It might be just me, as I have never seen/heard of a system set up that way. I have always put my HD's on the promary IDE interfaces (A & B) and the CD/DVD's on the secondary IDE interfaces (C & D). It may or may not be necessary but that is how I always have seen it done. > > > > I hope I'm wrong but I think you are confusing grub as much as me. > > > > Well, it was not me anyway :-). grub decided it was time to get > confused last week, after months of normalVoperation. title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.22-2-686 --- > root (hd1,0) ----> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-2-686 root=/dev/hdd1 ro initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-2-686 savedefault Grub did the 2 --> Lines? The root line says hdb and the kernel line says hdd. No wonder it won't boot. Yet the older kernels boot up with the same (wrong looking) root and kernel lines, so I am wrong. I have not yet upgraded any of my sid partitions to the 2.6.22-2 kernel. Maybe I have this problem to look forward to or maybe I should wait till it (whatever 'it' is) gets fixed. Sorry I could not help. Wayne -- Hit any user to continue. _______________________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:00:24 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Always falling to grub prompt Message-ID: <20070909180024.GC27698@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s" Content-Disposition: inline --Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 09:32:03PM -0400, Victor Munoz wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 09:07:39PM -0400, Victor Munoz wrote: > >=20 > > Disk /dev/hdd: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders > > Units =3D cylinders of 16065 * 512 =3D 8225280 bytes > > Disk identifier: 0x00014f58 > >=20 > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > /dev/hdd1 * 1 19331 155276226 83 Linux > > /dev/hdd2 19332 19457 1012095 82 Linux swap / So= laris > >=20 > > As I'm typing this, I notice for the first time that hdd1 is marked as > > bootable. That's not correct, right? Is is possible that something > > during some upgrade did it without me knowing? I will try to delete > > the boot flag... > >=20 >=20 > Ok, I'm disappointed. It didn't work. hdd has no bootable partitions, > and I still get the grub prompt, and using configfile complains about > cylinders.=20 I read the other part of this thread and I'm not sure those guys are barking up the right tree, though they could be. I think it is perfectly valid for grub and the kernel to have different device names for the drives and so long as you keep track of which context you're working in, then I think you're alright.=20 One thing that might be helpful is what does the BIOS call those drives? In your bios setup screen there will be the usual table of harddrives and their positions on the motherboard, as the bios sees them. Can you provide that info for us? please include how the bios is addressing them (LBA etc). What motherboard is this and how old is it? It looks like you are facing an ancient problem with BIOS that couldn't see beyond the first 1024 cylinders. With your large / partition, I'd bet those non-working kernels are beyond the range that the bios can see, and I'm willing to bet that your bios is configured incorrectly to see those higher cylinders.=20 A --Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG5DS4aIeIEqwil4YRAlTPAJ0Ud7u3bYiMLBH8wWygHmetN3DCzACgvkgd Egb21/Gqu1KIgeLOPCLxrHc= =zolB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s--
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:02:47 +0300 From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Small USB stick system Message-ID: <20070909180247.GB9793@think.homenet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="98e8jtXdkpgskNou" Content-Disposition: inline --98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 08:53:48AM -0700, John Wojnaroski wrote: > Hi, > > Trying to run Debian off of a USB memory stick (4GB)... working with etc= h. > > Did an install from a DVD and the machine boots just fine. > > At this point, just a basic linux machine but have room for the X windows= =20 > package. The linux version is 2.6.8.=20 Are you sure this is etch? sarge has kernel 2.6.8, etch has 2.6.18 > Tried to extract the .config from the binary, but does not appear it=20 > was compiled with that option. What do you mean by that? The config for Debian standard kernels can be=20 found in /boot [snip menu.lst and fstab] > Again, the installed binary works just fine, the version compiled from=20 > source bombs. Best guess something is wrong/missing in the new=20 > kernel, but can't find it for the life of me.... Why do you want to recompile the kernel? And what error messages do you=20 get when it "bombs". Regards, Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG5DVHqJyztHCFm9kRArN9AJ49qdiSJ/BNyLls9bB0Q3N4HrT7LwCgkChZ OqFGAa/fd5AemvWguvrgidg= =5hNY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --98e8jtXdkpgskNou--
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:46:14 +0100 From: Wackojacko <wackojacko32@ntlworld.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Always falling to grub prompt Message-ID: <46E43166.2070605@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wayne Topa wrote: > > title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.22-2-686 > --- > root (hd1,0) > ----> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-2-686 root=/dev/hdd1 ro > initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-2-686 > savedefault > > Grub did the 2 --> Lines? The root line says hdb and the kernel line > says hdd. No wonder it won't boot. Yet the older kernels boot up with > the same (wrong looking) root and kernel lines, so I am wrong. I have > not yet upgraded any of my sid partitions to the 2.6.22-2 kernel. > Maybe I have this problem to look forward to or maybe I should wait > till it (whatever 'it' is) gets fixed. > > Sorry I could not help. > > Wayne > Not necessarily. Grub uses /boot/grub/device.map to identify which HDD maps to which (hd?). It might be useful to see the OP's device.map file, but grub could just ignore hda and hdb as they are not HDD. HTH Wackojacko
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:08:13 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Loading and blacklisting modules Message-ID: <20070909180813.GD27698@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="llIrKcgUOe3dCx0c" Content-Disposition: inline --llIrKcgUOe3dCx0c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 01:40:11PM +0200, Davide Mancusi wrote: > pinniped ha scritto: >> That is (somewhat) correct; the scripts which create the initrd image >> will normally (in the default install) put all framebuffer, acpi, >> filesystem, and hard disk drivers into the image. Have a look in >> /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf to get some idea what goes on. > > I did, but the only way I found to control modules included in the initrd= =20 > is the MODULES option in initramfs.conf (presently set to MODULES=3Dmost)= =2E I=20 > can't see any way to exclude "floppy" (I could specify a list, of course,= =20 > but how do I know what modules are included by "most"?). you can look in the initrd itself, google for instructions on unpacking it, or wait for madduck (and others) to notice this thread and pipe up about it. You can mess around with initrd all you want without serious risk. Just rename the current working initrd to something sensible; mess around with the configs and build a new one and try it on a reboot. If it fails, reboot again and select the known working one by editing your grub parameters and try again.=20 You certainly won't go very far wrong by selecting MODULES=3Ddep or whatever it is. That will then only insert the modules that are required to boot the system based on the current hardware (not sure what foo it uses to do this) requirements. But it will certainly get you a smaller initrd and may help with certain persistently loaded modules (like floppy). > > I wonder what you get in initramfs.conf if you do not select to load=20 > "floppy" when installing. Does it get loaded anyway? > I suspect that these are completely seperate processes. A --llIrKcgUOe3dCx0c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG5DaNaIeIEqwil4YRAqUvAKCxJklO1VnlcK1sM/i/8NnyMyV0JwCgka63 8iNQn6VnB+G5TkBvZg5uzRw= =Aw73 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --llIrKcgUOe3dCx0c--
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 20:12:55 +0200 From: Jochen Schulz <ml@well-adjusted.de> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: After Installing ISO Image I cant access GUI and Nedd "sources.list" file Message-ID: <20070909181255.GC22157@wasteland.homelinux.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="adJ1OR3c6QgCpb/j" Content-Disposition: inline --adJ1OR3c6QgCpb/j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrei Popescu: > On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 09:46:50AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: > =20 >> If you wanted to install pure Debian stable, this is most probably not >> what you want. The installer should have asked you about that anyway. >> But well, here's what I guess is what you want/need: >>=20 >> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free >=20 > AFAIK ftp.debian.org is kept only for legacy reasons. Thanks, nice to know. I just took my own entried and removed the country code. J. --=20 Nothing is as I planned it. [Agree] [Disagree] <http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html> --adJ1OR3c6QgCpb/j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG5Den+AfZydWK2zkRAv7ZAJ9WyI5gJQK3+vsVrwjZfjukXD0yBgCfdyps TxX8j+ungjBpiH6W6NMtqv0= =ZgJ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --adJ1OR3c6QgCpb/j--
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 18:19:49 +0000 From: Andy Smith <andy@lug.org.uk> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: how to compile a xen dom0 kernel the debian way Message-ID: <20070909181949.GY18805@bitfolk.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IzfK37RRzYzkn+5r" Content-Disposition: inline --IzfK37RRzYzkn+5r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jonas, On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 03:03:09PM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: > On 09/09/2007 Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi Jonas, >=20 > Hey Andi, >=20 > > > i would like to give xen a try, but i didn't manage to compile a dom0 > > > host kernel yet. > >=20 > > Do you need to? What is wrong with Debian's xen kernels? >=20 > I don't think that there's anything wrong with debian's default kernels, > but I always use a selfcompiled kernel, and I'dd like to learn howto > compile a xen dom0 kernel as well. Okay. Well It has been a long time (6 months+) since I did this as these days the stock debian xen kernels are fine for me, but.. > > You can use the normal Debian kernel source and compile like you > > would normally, making sure to select the xen patch. >=20 > Unfortunately, this simply doesn't work. If I run 'make menuconfig' in > debians linux-source-2.6.22 sources, I don't get any xen options in > the submenu 'processor-type and features'. So you have also installed linux-patch-debian-* and then done: $ sudo make-kpkg --added-patches xen clean $ sudo make-kpkg --added-patches xen kernel-image ? Also back when I did it, this bug was present and needed the described workaround: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D382699 That is what I mean by "making sure to select the xen patch". It's the same process as used for making your own linux-vserver kernel. If you still have problems I would recommend the debian xen package mailing list. Cheers, Andy --=20 http://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting Encrypted mail welcome - keyid 0x604DE5DB --IzfK37RRzYzkn+5r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG5DlFIJm2TL8VSQsRAlcyAJ96dt+YgslCqFQPPqDRe2mqgXicsgCgwPAN saAmN3n/nW0VKLkPFMFqz1g= =ppI0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IzfK37RRzYzkn+5r-- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2335 ************************************************** Received on Sun Sep 9 14:23:20 2007
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