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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2357

Today's Topics: 

  FW: Re: Synaptic - debconf: TERM not  [ Andrei Popescu  ]
  Re: Moving MySQL database from one m  [ Martin Waller  ]
  Re: ocfs2 (oracle cluster filesystem  [ Benedict Verheyen  ]
  Re: Thinkpad T20 wireless troubles    [ Chris Lale  ]
  Re: dual purpose USB-key              [ Haines Brown 
  Problem with debootstrap: Cannot cre  [ Florian Lindner <mailinglists@xgm.d ]



Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:55:50 +0300


From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: Debian-User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: FW: Re: Synaptic - debconf:  TERM not set
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Putting this back on list.


Do you need help?X

Andrei



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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:12:21 -0400


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To: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Synaptic - debconf:  TERM not set



The debconf lines are similar to mine so it may be the same issue.  I guess=
=20


I'll wait and see  what the outcome of that bug is.



Thanks for your input.




Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:39:58AM -0400, Chris Capon wrote:
>  =20


>> After a recent upgrade (testing distribution), Synaptic started showing=
=20

>> this message:
>>
>>   debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog
>>   debconf: (TERM is not set, so the dialog frontend is not usable.)
>>   debconf: falling back to frontend: Readline
>>
>> for every package or upgrade being installed.
>>
>> I do not get this message when running something like dpkg-reconfigure=

Do you need more help?X



=20

>> from a terminal window.
>>
>> Synaptic creates its own console window so I don't know how to set the=


=20


>> TERM environment variable.  Is there some way to set it or is Synaptic=
=20

>> broken?
>>
>> This happens on two different systems.
>>    =20
>


> Maybe it's #422427?
>


> Regards,
> Andrei
>  =20
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Can we help you?X

Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:02:24 +0300


From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Small USB stick system


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On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 03:57:56PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:

> I wonder if I might interject a question that is so minor it probably
> can be readily answered.
>=20


> Suppose one wanted one usb-key to serve the two main purposes of
> having one: system maintenance and installation. I see directions for

Interesting. I have a usb-key only for sneaker-net purposes.


> doing either, but how about both. Can one somehow add the debian
> installation executable to the bootable system on usb-key and
> differentiate between these two functions in the grub menu?

AFAIK the Live Debian project was working on including the debian=20
installer in the live image. Then you should be able to start an=20
installation from the booted live system. Is that what you need?


Can't find what you're looking for?X

Regards,


Andrei


--=20


If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)



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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:25:16 +0530


From: "Masatran, R. Deepak" <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Tamil-India locale

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  •   Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> 2007-09-10

    > Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:
    > > I changed my "LANG" to "ta_IN.UTF-8" (Tamil + India + UTF-8), and some
    > > other configuration settings. The "Monospace" font in Gnome-Terminal and
    > > XFCE Terminal, has got replaced by some font which is not constant-width.
    > > Text selection, and spacing, of Tamil script on Firefox, have become ugly.
    > > I suspect that these problems are being caused by the locale file.
    > > 
    > > Could anyone help fix the locale file, as I am not familiar with this
    > > format? I will help with the details of the language, and the script. I am
    > > using Debian Etch, and the included "/usr/share/i18n/locales/ta_IN"
    > > appears to be carelessly written.
    > 
    > Not sure if this will solve your problem, but does installing
    > ttf-tamil-fonts help you in any way?

I already have it installed. Maybe the bugs are in "ttf-tamil-fonts", rather
than in the locale file?


-- 
Masatran, R. Deepak <
http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/>


Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:11:12 +0200
From: Christopher Zimmermann <madroach@zakweb.de>
To: alex@samad.com.au
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Iptables & Default policy of Reject
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As long as I use iptables I was not able to use policies of reject. I=20
even remember the target 'REJECT' being a selectable kernel option.=20
Reject requires some ICMP action whereas DROP doesn't.


> I am just going through my firewall setup and I notice I can no longer   =

 =20

> do  iptables -P INPUT REJECT                                             =

 =20


> when did this happen ? I could have sworn that is what I used to use as
> a default, yes I know I can drop and add a -A -j REJECT                  =

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Don't know where to look next?X

Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:02:02 +0200
From: "Mirco Piccin" <pictux@gmail.com>
To: "Haines Brown" <brownh@hartford-hwp.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dual purpose USB-key
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Hi.


> Is it possible to boot to grub and in its menu choose between either doing

maintenance on the

> current hard disk or running the installer to install a basic debian
> system on a new hard disk?


Last xmas i do something similar for some customers.
My usb-key drive was so 'configured':
- a multimedia distro: geexbox
- a tiny debian distribution: DamnSmallLinux
- a tiny System Utility distribution (Gentoo based): SystemRescueCD
- a tiny Slack distro: Slack PopCorn Edition
..all bootable from Grub.

And there was also installed WinPenPack to allow to run some GPL
applications from Window$ without install anything.

I don't remember well the way i do that, but all i remember is:
1 - install geexbox on the usb-key (you can do that with 'hd-install' option
while booting geexbox);
2 - copy all the DamnSmallLinux, SystemRescueCD, Slack to the root
partition;
3 - edit the grub (installed by geexbox)  with the new kernel and verify
device.map;
4 - personalize grub - background, timeout, default etc etc;

So, the way i do that is installing on yhe usb-key a distribution that allow
the boot via grub (not syslinux).
>From that there was not problem.

If you want i can share this usb-key image (only 512 MB!!), so you can look
at that.
Hope it helps you!
Bye!

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Hi.<br><br><span class="gmail_quote"></span> &gt; Is it possible to boot to grub and in its menu choose between either doing maintenance on the<br>&gt; current hard disk or running the installer to install a basic debian<br>
&gt; system on a new hard disk?<br><br>Last xmas i do something similar for some customers.<br>My usb-key drive was so &#39;configured&#39;:<br>- a multimedia distro: geexbox<br>- a tiny debian distribution: DamnSmallLinux
<br>- a tiny System Utility distribution (Gentoo based): SystemRescueCD<br>- a tiny Slack distro: Slack PopCorn Edition<br>..all bootable from Grub.<br><br>And there was also installed WinPenPack to allow to run some GPL applications from Window$ without install anything.
<br><br>I don&#39;t remember well the way i do that, but all i remember is: <br>1 - install geexbox on the usb-key (you can do that with &#39;hd-install&#39; option while booting geexbox);<br>2 - copy all the DamnSmallLinux, SystemRescueCD, Slack to the root partition;
<br>3 - edit the grub (installed by geexbox)&nbsp; with the new kernel and verify device.map;<br>4 - personalize grub - background, timeout, default etc etc;<br><br>So, the way i do that is installing on yhe usb-key a distribution that allow the boot via grub (not syslinux).
<br>From that there was not problem.<br><br>If you want i can share this usb-key image (only 512 MB!!), so you can look at that.<br>Hope it helps you!<br>Bye!<br><br><br>

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:51:47 +0100
From: Martin Waller <martinej.waller@ntlworld.com>
To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Moving MySQL database from one machine to another and remotely
 accessing dbs?
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Many thanks to all who replied.

Martin

Martin Waller wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I'm using MySQL 4.1 on Etch and have a database (that I created) on 
> another machine (still Sarge) that I want to transfer to the other 
> before upgrading to etch on that machine also. Where should I look to 
> find out how to do this?  Is it just a matter of locating the database 
> and copying or is it more subtle? Are there any security considerations?

>

> On the security note, I'd also like to be able to access the database 
> from other machines but am unable as by default remote access to the 
> server isn't allowed - again, where should I be looking for 
> information on how to change this?

>

> The MySQL docs are pretty daunting for a database newby, and I was 
> hoping there'd be some debian-specific documentation somewhere...

>

> Thanks if anyone can help point me to the relevant information source,

>

> Martin

>
>



Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:58:16 +1000
From: Alex Samad <alex@samad.com.au>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Iptables & Default policy of Reject
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On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:11:12AM +0200, Christopher Zimmermann wrote:

> As long as I use iptables I was not able to use policies of reject. I=20
> even remember the target 'REJECT' being a selectable kernel option.=20
> Reject requires some ICMP action whereas DROP doesn't.

I can understand the reasoning.

I will have to put it down to faulty memory on my part, thought I would ask=
=20
anyway
>=20

> > I am just going through my firewall setup and I notice I can no longer =

   =20

> > do  iptables -P INPUT REJECT                                           =

   =20
>=20

> > when did this happen ? I could have sworn that is what I used to use as
> > a default, yes I know I can drop and add a -A -j REJECT                =

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Date:  Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:52:08 +0200
From: Benedict Verheyen <benedict.verheyen@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: ocfs2 (oracle cluster filesystem) error: Unable to load module
   "configfs"
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Benedict Verheyen schreef:
<snip>

I didn't use ocfs2 nor hostf to do what i wanted.
I moved the homedirectories to the uml and it works for me.

Regards,
Benedict



Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:47:47 +0200
From: "Raffaele Morelli" <raffaele.morelli@gmail.com>
To: "debian-User list" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: debian oriented laptot suggestions
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Hi you all,

I am going to buy a laptop and install debian on it, so I would like to
receive some feedback/suggestions from the list in this sense.

thanx in advance

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Hi you all,<br><br>I am going to buy a laptop and install debian on it, so I would like to receive some feedback/suggestions from the list in this sense.<br><br>thanx in advance<br>

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:55:36 +0200
From: Piotr Kopszak <kopszak@mnw.art.pl>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: jgoerzen@complete.org
Subject: Xorg on dfsbuilt live CD 
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Hello, 

I'm trying to get Xwindows going on a live etch CD I prepare using dfsbuilt
on recent etch. In my dfs.cfg I added the following packages:

x-window-system-core xorg larswm   

The CD builds OK. It runs fine in text mode however when I try to
start Xwindows it complains about inaccessible /var/log directory and
quits. Any ideas? 

Piotr


-- 
--

  Piotr Kopszak, Ph.D.
  Polish Art Gallery, National Museum in Warsaw
  ----------------------------->    http://kopszak.mnw.art.pl/
  http://www.magnatune.com/artists/altri_stromenti

Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:47:47 +0100
From: Chris Lale <chrislale@untrammelled.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Thinkpad T20 wireless troubles
Message-ID: <46E67253.5030302@untrammelled.co.uk>
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Chris Brotherton wrote:

> I just recent got an old T20 and I am attempting to use Debian on it.  I am
> using a PCMCIA orinoco wireless card.  Here is the crazy part.  The card is
> recognized by the installer.  The installer asks me for my essid and my WEP
> key.  After I input the information, the wireless card get its ip address over
> dhcp and then works flawlessly.  The trouble comes when I finish the install
> and boot the machine.  Once the machine comes up, I cannot get the wireless
> card to work.  iwconfig shows that it has all of the correct information, but
> it cannot get an ip address.  I have tried both 4.0r1 and a testing snapshot.
> Both have the exact same problem.  


I have been running wireless PCMCIA cards in Sarge and Etch on my T20 for a
while. Currently I am using an Edimax EW-7108PCg card with the Ralink chipset. I
have documented the process I followed on the NewbieDOC website [1] [2]. You may
find something helpful there.

Can you ping your Access Point?

If not, you might need to disable your ethernet interface:
# ifdown eth0
or similar. If this works you can comment out the eth0 entry in
/etc/network/interfaces


[1]
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_wireless_network_card_using_drivers_from_Debian_packages#Short_version_if_you_are_impatient
[2] http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Installing_Ndiswrapper_in_Debian


-- 
Chris.



Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:52:00 -0300
From: nicolas <nicolasardissono@yahoo.com.ar>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: kernel 2.6.22 - sata
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i have install kernel 2.6.22 on debian etch, every thing works fine 
except when i shutdown de computer it shows me an error on the sata, it 
say i have a problem with my shutdown utility, and shows me a web site, 
but in the web site it says nothing.
any one knows what to do?


Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:58:06 +0100
From: Chris Lale <chrislale@untrammelled.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Vote for Debian on Lenovo
Message-ID: <46E674BE.5060406@untrammelled.co.uk>
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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 12:20:29AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

>> http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98
> 
> thanks for the head up. vote cast, interesting to note that Untunbu is
> leading the pack by a lot with deb a distant second (something like
> 900+ for U with 200+ for deb) 


Ubuntu ~15000 and Debian ~3600 by the time I looked.

-- 
Chris.



Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 06:09:42 -0500
From: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>
To: kopszak@gmail.com
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Xorg on dfsbuilt live CD
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On Tue September 11 2007 4:55:36 am Piotr Kopszak wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I'm trying to get Xwindows going on a live etch CD I prepare using
> dfsbuilt on recent etch. In my dfs.cfg I added the following packages:

>

> x-window-system-core xorg larswm

>

> The CD builds OK. It runs fine in text mode however when I try to
> start Xwindows it complains about inaccessible /var/log directory and
> quits. Any ideas?


It probably wants to be able to write to that directory.  There is a line in 
dfs.cfg where you can list the files/dirs that you will want to put on the 
ramdisk instead of on the CD.

-- John

>

> Piotr

Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:47:36 +0100
From: "Peter Tynan" <peter.tynan@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: media icon and mounting partition
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First of all as I an new to both Debian and this list - Hi

My problem is that when I added a partition (hdb2) on my hard drive to
the fstab file a new icon titled "media" appeared on my desktop. I am
sure this is a wonderful idea for removable hard drives it is not what
I want for a partition on permanently installed internal hard drive.

So how do I safely get rid of this icon?
(I've googeled this but with not luck).

My "fstab"
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
/dev/hdb1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
/dev/hdb9       /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
/dev/hdb7       /opt            ext3    defaults        0       2
/dev/hdb2       /music          ext3    defaults        0       2
/dev/hdb4       /tmp            ext3    defaults        0       2
/dev/hdb5       /usr            ext3    defaults        0       2
/dev/hdb6       /var            ext3    defaults        0       2
/dev/hdb8       none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0

A screen shot, if your not sure about the icon I'm talking about can
be found at http://peter.tynan.googlepages.com/11sep2007.png

Peter

-- 
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact.
Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
"Emperor of Rome Marcus Aurelius"



Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:55:13 +0900
From: Takehiko Abe <keke@gol.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: kernel 2.6.22 - sata
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nicolas wrote:

 > i have install kernel 2.6.22 on debian etch, every thing works fine
 > except when i shutdown de computer it shows me an error on the sata,
 > it say i have a problem with my shutdown utility, and shows me a web
 > site, but in the web site it says nothing.  any one knows what to
 > do?

Make sure you read http://linux-ata.org/shutdown.html

There is a patch that I use partially:

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-sysvinit-commits/2007-June.txt

I expected this patch would soon be available in testing version of
sysvinit, but it has not arrived yet. It seems that there are some
issues to be resolved. See:

   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=426224#17

My understanding is that if all you have are sata drives then it is
safe to apply the above patch. But I am not sure.

This is on my todo list. I almost forgot about it.



Date:  11 Sep 2007 07:56:09 -0400
From: Haines Brown <brownh@hartford-hwp.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: dual purpose USB-key
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Mirco, first I should apologize for having posted my question twice in
the group. Don't know how I did that.

In your experiment, you installed multiple distros. But I assume that
the installation routine is quite different from the installer unless
the debian installer is kind of a live system that could be added to
grub menu. 

But maybe I'm imagining there's a problem. You say that with the
geexbox distsro on the key, you choose its "hd-install" option. Is
that to install the geexbox on a hard disk from usb-key? If so, does
DamnSmallLinux boot have such an option (long time since I last
booted)? If so, my question would be moot.
   
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       Haines Brown, KB1GRM

	 
        



Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:24:13 +0200
From: Florian Lindner <mailinglists@xgm.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Problem with debootstrap: Cannot create devices
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Hello,
I have a virtual server on which I try to install Debian etch. In order to do 
that I have booted an rescue system, downloaded debootstrap_0.3.3.3.tar.gz 
from [1] and installed it with make install-allarch. I follow the 
instructions at [2] (german), same in english at [3]

but debootstrap gives only an error

rescue-vs137031:~# debootstrap --arch i386 etch /test 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian
I: Retrieving Release
I: Retrieving Packages
I: Validating Packages
I: Resolving dependencies of required packages...
I: Resolving dependencies of base packages...
I: Checking component main on http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian...
I: Retrieving adduser
I: Validating adduser
[...]
I: Extracting tar...
I: Extracting tzdata...
I: Extracting util-linux...
I: Extracting zlib1g...
E: no /usr/lib/debootstrap/devices.tar.gz. cannot create devices

A search concludes that this error is known but hasn't lead to a solution so 
far.

Thanks,

Florian

[1] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/
[2] http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.de
[3] http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en

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