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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2482

Today's Topics:

  Re: more of that sed "editing" (Re:   [ Ken Irving  ]
  Problems capturing audio with Intel   [ Andrea Giuliano  ]
  Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was  [ David Brodbeck  ]
  Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was  [ "Russell L. Harris"  ]
  Re: Repost of some earlier described  [ "bent."  ]
  Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was  [ Benjamin A'Lee  ]
  Re: Repost of some earlier described  [ p  ]
  Re: How to reply in the mailing list  [ "Sid Arth"  ]
  Trying to get a network printer HP L  [ J  ]
  Re: Trying to get a network printer   [ David Brodbeck  ]
  Re: How to reply in the mailing list  [ Nick Lidakis  ]

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:50:59 -0800
From: Ken Irving <fnkci@uaf.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: more of that sed "editing" (Re: ASCII Formatter Whose Name

        I've Forgotten)

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On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 08:27:34PM +0000, Oleg Verych wrote:
> 26-09-2007, Celejar:
> > On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:47:09 -0500
> > Martin McCormick <martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> I remember reading about a UNIX utility whose name
> >> escapes me. You feed it ASCII text and it breaks lines as near
> >> to a desired length as possible without splitting words. Anyone
> >> remember the name of this utility?
> >
> > fmt -w nnn?
>
> Yesterday, when i was (quickly) reviewing (very long) backlog of this
> ML, there was similar question, but person started subject with `sed`.
>
> Eventually the sed solution to the problem was not noticed, and this
> silly `fmt` was accepted.
>
> Just in case somebody is interested in sed scripting, i'd like to share
> with little one, which i used to format `pdftotext` output. I didn't come
> up with good distribution algo for justification, though.
>
> <ftp://flower.upol.cz/upload/sed-craziness>
>
> Main usage was to read defprogramming.pdf by Ulrich Drepper in my hackish
> non-X environment. But such docs, with silly 2 columns text, are coming out
> very broken. But some formatting for C in sed, is rather useful.
>
> Ah, "silly fmt?", you might say. Yes. It doesn't break line-long
> words. I do this like that:
> "
> barfoobarbarfoobarbarfoobarbarfoobar\
> barfoobarbarfoobar"
>
> :P

Just to toss out another alternative, while I use fmt a lot, par does some things better, or at least easier. In particular, it can reformat a paragraph while retaining leading characters, e.g., quoted text in emails.

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It my not handle your runaway foobar example very well, though:

  $ echo barfoobarbarfoobarbarfoobarbarfoobarbarfoobarbarfoobar | par -w 40   barfoobarbarfoobarbarfoobarbarfoobarbarf   oobarbarfoobar

-- 
Ken Irving, fnkci+debianuser@uaf.edu

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:51:30 +0200 From: Andrea Giuliano <sarkiaponius@alice.it> To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Problems capturing audio with Intel ICH5... Message-ID: <46FAC652.9060509@alice.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Recently I had to change the motherboard, and now I have the P4i65G by ASRock. The south bridge is the famous ICH5, which, amoing other things, incorporates a sound card. "lspci -v" gives the following line about it: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) The problem is this: I can play normally anything perfectly fine (at least, the sound seems good), but if try to record something from Line-in, when I play it back the sound is ugly. It resembles the tipical robot-like speaking, and it's very loud too. I try to lower and even to mute every input control with gnome-mixer, but the results are the same. Alsa seems correctly configured (at least, sudo alsaconf gives no error). What could be the cause of this strange behaviour? Best regards. -- Andrea

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:11:35 -0400 From: Rob Mahurin <rob@utk.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management) Message-ID: <20070926211134.GB31442@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 10:11:31PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Rob Mahurin wrote:
> > I know you've settled on OOo, but it's worth pointing out that TeX is
> > a simple language if you're writing a simple document. In particular
> > you are already writing valid plain TeX in your email. Copy the above
> > (without the >'s) into file.txt; change /'thinking'/ to {\it thinking}
> > and "saying" to ``saying''; type "pdftex file.txt" and "\end".
> > file.pdf looks like http://sns.phys.utk.edu/~mahurin/du/09-25.pdf,
> > which I think is what you're after.
>
> Uh, no. It's more than that. You're forgetting loading in the templates
> and the entire structure.
Sorry I wasn't clearer. I made the output linked above using /plain/ TeX; the only \command was the italics. LaTeX is a set of templates and macros for typesetting structured documents with TeX, which it sounds like you don't need. When I was writing MLA-formatted papers as an undergraduate I used plain TeX like this and was pretty happy with it. Your other complaints, though, are all perfectly reasonable. It sounds like you want to write your fiction using a word processor, not a typesetting language. Great --- that's why the word processor was invented, after all. Let me see if I remember what you want: 1. revision control, including - resurrect erased text - merge changes from two computers 2. shallow learning curve, so you can focus on the writing 3. export to .doc that preserves italicization. You're concerned (I think) about not being able to merge changes in OpenOffice's data files using revision control, because those files aren't straightforward text. Someone else mentioned Abiword, which saves uncompressed XML; but there's metadata in there too, which might not merge correctly. It looks like Abisource offering revision control for collaborative writing, http://collaborate.abisource.com/faq/, but that's probably not what you want either. These options give you #2 and #3, maybe #1, or maybe a broken document after a certain level of complexity is reached. Many of the replies have been about TeX, its macro packages, etc. You complain that gives you #1 at the expense of #2 and #3. You mentioned you're not afraid of programming, so here's an idea. You could just write in plain text, and use /italics/ the same you have on this list. You said the publishers you've spoken to accept plain text; that additional markup is easy enough to read. If you /must/ send someone a .doc, you could write a Word macro (or a macro in a program that produces Word files) to match and italicize text. For that matter, a three-line perl (or whatever) script could 1. escape TeX's special characters, $%&#\{}^_~ 2. replace / with "\it " (italicize) or "\rm " (roman) in alternation 3. run pdfTeX on the output giving you something nice to print out. You should call the converter SLIPTT, Steve Lamb's Italicized Plain Text Typesetter. Don't want to print? Publisher can read plain text? You're all set. The fact is that any document formatting specification is going to be in SOME language, whether that language is embedded in the file format by the word processor, marked up by the author, or whatever. Most of the open-source revision control systems are for marked-up text, or code, where the author can tell if the merged text is right or not. File formats that warn "don't change this file manually," as AbiWord and OpenOffice do, probably require specialized version control software that's aware of those formats. The conclusion of this thread seems to be that debian users are using source-controlled LaTeX markup, and that there's not yet a good solution for source-controlled word processor output. I'll be interested to know what you decide to do. Good luck with your writing. Rob -- Rob Mahurin Dept. of Physics & Astronomy University of Tennessee phone: 865 207 2594 Knoxville, TN 37996 email: rob@utk.edu

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:18:59 -0700 From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: "Debian-user (debian help)" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management) Message-Id: <3497EEB8-0305-4C57-BFDC-79DEDB9E82AE@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sep 26, 2007, at 2:11 PM, Rob Mahurin wrote:
> You're concerned (I think) about not being able to merge changes in
> OpenOffice's data files using revision control, because those files
> aren't straightforward text. Someone else mentioned Abiword, which
> saves uncompressed XML; but there's metadata in there too, which might
> not merge correctly. It looks like Abisource offering revision
> control
> for collaborative writing, http://collaborate.abisource.com/faq/, but
> that's probably not what you want either.
He's made it clear that he doesn't want to use anything but OOo. So the focus of the thread discussion so far would appear to be completely wrong; he apparently has a very specific desire for a version control tool that works within OOo. I'm not sure such a thing exists, so he may be up a creek without a paddle.

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:24:21 -0400 From: Rob Mahurin <rob@utk.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tool for document management Message-ID: <20070926212421.GC31442@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 10:39:55AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
> Looking at my copy of 'The Not So Short Introduction To LaTeX,' it's
> not clear to me what document class I'd use [for a letter].
For some reason that book omits the LaTeX "letter" class. -- Rob Mahurin Dept. of Physics & Astronomy University of Tennessee phone: 865 207 2594 Knoxville, TN 37996 email: rob@utk.edu

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:33:13 -0500 From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management) Message-ID: <20070926213313.GE12800@oplink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline * Johannes Wiedersich <johannes@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de> [070926 08:28]:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > So now the problem becomes how to convert the HTML produced by HeVeA
> > into RTF or another format which M$ Word can read -- preferably within
> > the Debian environment, and preferably with open-source software.
> > In another hour searching with Google, I came across only one potential
> > solution.
>
> I havn't yet tried with HeVeA output, but OOo is quite capable of
> handling html code. It can also export to .doc
>
> Johannes
Thanks, Johannes. I did not realize that OOo could read HTML. I just tried OOo on the HeVeA output (which is claimed to conform to the HTML standard), and it works reasonably well. The only real problem is that some of the characters are rendered by code such as: A0; 2013; 2014; 2026; 201C; 201D; So, unless OOo has a switch to enable these characters to be rendered properly, I need to do a search-and-replace on them before converting to M$ Word .doc format. RLH

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:41:06 +0100 From: "John O Laoi" <brianolaoi@gmail.com> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Openoffice file takes a long time to open Message-ID: <1f1816a90709261441i602bd587o3899e606857f78d2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9138_27044737.1190842866341" ------=_Part_9138_27044737.1190842866341 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/26/07, Ralph Katz <ralph.katz@rcn.com> wrote: > > >
> Don't know, John, I'm just a simple user. If it were me, I'd copy the
> contents of the doc onto the clipboard, paste it into a text-only
> editor, re-copy the now text-only data into a new OOo doc. (This is
> crude, but assures nothing surprising gets inadvertently copied.) Now,
> try the new doc.
>
> I tried this to no avail.
Then, I brought the file to SUSE, and did the same thing there, using vi, saved it as text and brought it back to Etch, and it opened in less than a second. All very mysterious. Anyway, problem solved in the end. Thanks for your help. John ------=_Part_9138_27044737.1190842866341 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/26/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ralph Katz</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:ralph.katz@rcn.com">ralph.katz@rcn.com</a>&gt; wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br><br>Don&#39;t know, John, I&#39;m just a simple user.&nbsp;&nbsp;If it were me, I&#39;d copy the<br>contents of the doc onto the clipboard, paste it into a text-only<br>editor, re-copy the now text-only data into a new OOo doc.&nbsp;&nbsp;(This is <br>crude, but assures nothing surprising gets inadvertently copied.)&nbsp;&nbsp;Now,<br>try the new doc.<br><br></blockquote></div>&nbsp;I tried this to no avail.<br>Then, I brought the file to SUSE, and did the same thing there, using vi, saved it as text <br>and brought it back to Etch, and it opened in less than a second.<br>All very mysterious.<br>Anyway, problem solved in the end.<br>Thanks for your help.<br>John<br> ------=_Part_9138_27044737.1190842866341--

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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:59:22 -0500 From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tool for document management Message-ID: <20070926215922.GF12800@oplink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline * Rob Mahurin <rob@utk.edu> [070926 16:42]:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 10:39:55AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
> > Looking at my copy of 'The Not So Short Introduction To LaTeX,' it's
> > not clear to me what document class I'd use [for a letter].
>
> For some reason that book omits the LaTeX "letter" class.
The LaTeX letter class is rather pathetic. The letters it produces have wide margins and are suitable only for personal correspondence; they remind me of the style which was taught in American elementary schools back in the 1950's. Kopka and Daly, in "A Guide to LaTeX", third edition, provide a fully-detailed example of a letterhead class which is suitable for the correspondence of a business or an organization. Using as a guide the letterhead class of Kopka and Daly, I created my own letterhead class which has a header, a footer, two columns, page numbers, etc. The header for the second and subsequent pages displays the name of the recipient and the date of the communication. The footer of every page displays my own organization name and address. The result is a layout which is attractive, professional in appearance, and stands out from the crowd. RLH

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:56:41 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Tool for document management Message-ID: <46FAD599.4030904@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/07 18:05, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> On Sep 24, 2007, at 9:39 PM, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>> I use XEMacs daily to produce LaTeX documents. I have frequent need >> to search my archives of material I have written in the past, and I >> use grep for this purpose. It is difficult for me to imagine an >> advantage offered by OpenOffice which would compensate for the >> inability to make use of grep in searching my archives.
>
> I think it depends on what you're doing. TeX is awesome for writing
> books and scientific papers. If you're writing a letter to Grandma,
> though, OpenOffice is better suited. Using TeX for that is a bit like
> driving a semi truck to the supermarket to pick up a bottle of milk.
Load that beast to write a simple letter? Or do some simple spreadsheet work? AbiWord and Gnumeric are *much* better at that task. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG+tWZS9HxQb37XmcRAsmbAKCpjV+F0adDajobWg1+VZbTK7HS3wCgwEjq UyuW2tB5VF0bdGVCztOZiho= =RaH4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:26:34 -0600 From: "bent." <pplaw@pcisys.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges" Message-ID: <20070926222634.GA5119@bt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:33:43PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: __deletia__
>
> Another issue which has never been posted: She installed more
> memory. She had 512 MB RAM, and now has 1.5 Gig. Unfortunately,
> Debian seems only to recognize just under 1.0 Gig. I haven't
> looked on the web for a fix for that, so I haven't posted
> here. Part of the reason I haven't gone searching for a
> solution, is that her reaction to that was to purchase a copy
> of Windows XP.
> __deletia__
> Mike
// i agree with andrew sackville-wes's recommendation to consider an upgrade to etch, the default kernel to which, for example, (just) sees my rig's 3mb of ram. luck. b. //

Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:00:27 +0100 From: Benjamin A'Lee <bma@subvert.org.uk> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management) Message-ID: <20070926230027.GA3401@mail.subvert.org.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3" Content-Disposition: inline --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 04:16:06PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> (Unfortunately the way from word to LaTeX is not nearly that efficient
> if not impossible.)
Not at all. IIRC, Abiword can both import DOC and export LaTeX. On the other hand, if you want *nice* LaTeX, you'll have to try a bit harder; Abiword seems to try to preserve as much of the formatting as possible, rather than just letting TeX deal with it. --=20 Benjamin A'Lee <bma@subvert.org.uk> http://subvert.org.uk/~bma/ --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG+uSLEUZDNrttL6ARAvyyAKC5a3p1Kow/vCfgw0UYnbPXUHv6vACfaC7g 5G8R3m7EW+EkUjckF8V9Wh4= =om4K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3--

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:45:49 -0600 From: p <pplaw@pcisys.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges" Message-ID: <20070926224549.GA5220@bt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 04:26:34PM -0600, bent. wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:33:43PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> __deletia__
> >
> > Another issue which has never been posted: She installed more
> > memory. She had 512 MB RAM, and now has 1.5 Gig. Unfortunately,
> > Debian seems only to recognize just under 1.0 Gig. I haven't
> > looked on the web for a fix for that, so I haven't posted
> > here. Part of the reason I haven't gone searching for a
> > solution, is that her reaction to that was to purchase a copy
> > of Windows XP.
> >
> __deletia__
>
> > Mike
>
> //
>
> i agree with andrew sackville-wes's recommendation to
> consider an upgrade to etch, the default kernel to which,
> for example, (just) sees my rig's 3mb of ram.
>
> luck.
>
> b.
>
> //
// oops--3gb of ram. sorry. b. //

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:59:12 -0500 From: "Sid Arth" <sidster802@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How to reply in the mailing lists Message-ID: <1827b68f0709261559m63b46728pbfcfd9f8c6d19317@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ahh you will have to excuse me, but what exactly is top posting and what do you mean by trimming? Ill try to fix it myself if I can. On 9/26/07, Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 06:12:50PM -0500, Sid Arth wrote:
>
> > or any other email client. Those two do everything I need them to do.
>
> Apparently they don't do any automatic proper email formating (no
> top-posting and proper trimming). You still have to do that yourself!
>
> Regards,
> Andrei
> P.S. Sorry if it sounds harsh, but this thread is related to netiquette.
> --

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:41:59 -0700 From: J <j1234f@excite.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Trying to get a network printer HP LaserJet (tm) 2100tn to print from debian Message-ID: <1190846519.579598.167750@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Trying to get a network printer HP LaserJet (tm) 2100tn to print from debian that I got for free. I got it to print from windows because it had some Java aplet that downloaded DLL and did a windows install and it will print from Windows now. The software it installed was called "HP internet Printer Connection". Any how, KDE's add printer cannot scan and find the printer??? So, I can't add it. Should I try to add it as and IPP printer or other type? I tried entering the IP address in the add printer dialog, but then it show blank selection for chooing the model and maker of the printer on the next page of the KDE add printer dialog. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance J $ telnet 192.168.1.5:631 telnet: could not resolve 192.168.1.5:631/telnet: Name or service not known $ telnet 192.168.1.5:9100 telnet: could not resolve 192.168.1.5:9100/telnet: Name or service not kn $ telnet 192.168.1.5 Trying 192.168.1.5... Connected to 192.168.1.5. Escape character is '^]'. HP JetDirect Please type "?" for HELP, or "/" for current settings >
> /
===JetDirect Telnet Configuration=== Firmware Rev. : G.08.04 MAC Address : 00:30:c1:0c:0f:3f Config By : DHCP IP Address : 192.168.1.5 Subnet Mask : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway : 192.168.1.1 Syslog Server : Not Specified Idle Timeout : 90 Seconds Set Cmnty Name : Not Specified Host Name : HP2100 DHCP Config : Enabled Passwd : Disabled IPX/SPX : Enabled DLC/LLC : Enabled Ethertalk : Enabled Banner page : Enabled
> quit

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:28:03 -0700 From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: J <j1234f@excite.com> Cc: "Debian-user (debian help)" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Trying to get a network printer HP LaserJet (tm) 2100tn to print from debian Message-Id: <3A4E9DEB-EB7B-4BB1-BC90-8ABBF79D7CE7@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sep 26, 2007, at 3:41 PM, J wrote:
> Trying to get a network printer HP LaserJet (tm) 2100tn to print from
> debian that I got for free.
>
> Any how, KDE's add printer cannot scan and find the printer???
> So, I can't add it. Should I try to add it as
> and IPP printer or other type?
For HP printers, I usually use the "socket" method of printing. (Sometimes called "raw socket" or "Jetdirect.") Pretty much every network-capable HP printer supports it and it's easy to configure. If you can't get KDE's add printer to work, try pointing a web browser at http://localhost:631/ and setting it up using CUPS's web interface. The URL you'll want to give CUPS is "socket://192.168.1.5".
> $ telnet 192.168.1.5:631
> telnet: could not resolve 192.168.1.5:631/telnet: Name or service not
> known
The telnet program expects a space, not a colon, between the address and port number. e.g., $ telnet 192.168.1.5 631

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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:51:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Logan Five <logan5@pobox.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Network settings don't stick after reboot Message-ID: <loom.20070926T234734-582@post.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the latest version of Debian running on Linksys NSLU. I have it set for a static IP and I've added a correct default gateway to my config and everything works ok. However, when I reboot, it goes back to DHCP and the gateway route doesn't stick. All the correct settings in the correct files but those settings don't get read on reboot apparently. And if I do a restart of networking, the correct settings get applied. What gives? Thanks.

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:50:06 -0400 From: Nick Lidakis <nlidakis@verizon.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How to reply in the mailing lists Message-id: <46FAF02E.4010405@verizon.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sid Arth wrote:
> Ahh you will have to excuse me, but what exactly is top posting and
> what do you mean by trimming?
> Ill try to fix it myself if I can.
>
> On 9/26/07, Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 06:12:50PM -0500, Sid Arth wrote: >> >> >>> or any other email client. Those two do everything I need them to do. >>> >> Apparently they don't do any automatic proper email formating (no >> top-posting and proper trimming). You still have to do that yourself! >> >> Regards, >> Andrei >> P.S. Sorry if it sounds harsh, but this thread is related to netiquette. >> -- >> > >
>
I think it means your reply should be below what you are replying to. Like I just did. It is more annoying to read replies when they are top posted (?). I think trimming means keeping sideburns at an acceptably trimmed level until lamb chops are back in style, for males. Females shall keep their runways appropriately devoid of any shoulder dandelion weeds. End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2482 ************************************************** Received on Wed Sep 26 20:42:34 2007

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