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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2510

Today's Topics: 

  Trying to get a network printer HP L  [ J  ]
  Re: Basic Tomcatt5.5 Admin question   [ Dancing Fingers  ]
  Re: apt-get file:/; unloading kernel  [ "Vivek.M"  ]
  apt-get file:/; unloading kernel mod  [ "Vivek.M"  ]
  Re: unable to install mysql (lamp) (  [ Andy Smith  ]
  Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX       [ Kevin Mark  ]
  Re: efficiency of windows managers    [ Amit Uttamchandani 

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:13 +0200


From: J <j1234f@excite.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Trying to get a network printer HP LaserJet (tm) 2100tn to print from debian
Message-ID: <98TVb-7hc-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



Trying to get a network printer HP LaserJet (tm) 2100tn to print from
debian that I got for free.


I got it to print from windows because it had some Java aplet that
downloaded DLL


and did a windows install and it will print from Windows now.
The software it installed was called "HP internet Printer Connection".



Any how, KDE's add printer cannot scan and find the printer???
So, I can't add it.  Should I try to add it as
and IPP printer or other type?


I tried entering the IP address in the add printer dialog,
but then it show blank selection for chooing the model
and maker of the printer on the next page of the KDE add printer
dialog.


Any suggestions?


Thanks in advance


J




$ telnet 192.168.1.5:631


telnet: could not resolve 192.168.1.5:631/telnet: Name or service not
known


$ telnet 192.168.1.5:9100


telnet: could not resolve 192.168.1.5:9100/telnet: Name or service not
kn

$ telnet 192.168.1.5
Trying 192.168.1.5...
Connected to 192.168.1.5.



Escape character is '^]'.


Do you need help?X

HP JetDirect



Please type "?" for HELP, or "/" for current settings

>
> /

   ===JetDirect Telnet Configuration===

        Firmware Rev.   : G.08.04
        MAC Address     : 00:30:c1:0c:0f:3f
        Config By       : DHCP

        IP Address      : 192.168.1.5
        Subnet Mask     : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway : 192.168.1.1
        Syslog Server   : Not Specified

Do you need more help?X

        Idle Timeout    : 90 Seconds
        Set Cmnty Name  : Not Specified
        Host Name       : HP2100

        DHCP Config     : Enabled
        Passwd          : Disabled
        IPX/SPX         : Enabled
        DLC/LLC         : Enabled
        Ethertalk       : Enabled
        Banner page     : Enabled


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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:10 +0200
From: Dancing Fingers <bcl122@netscape.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Basic Tomcatt5.5 Admin question
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On Sep 21, 2:00 pm, Dancing Fingers <bcl...@netscape.net> wrote:

> Thanks.  This helps a lot.   I   also tried
> chown -R www-data  /usr/share/tomcat5.5-webapps
> without much luck.
>
> Cchris
> On Sep 21, 1:10 pm, Nyizsnyik Ferenc <nyi...@bluebottle.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:42:59 -0700
>
> > Dancing Fingers <bcl...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > > I  finally got Tomcat5.5 going on Etch  AMD and  I start studying the
> > > JSP developers guide but I get stuck in  the beginning.   The book
> > > says to create a  new directory under  ROOT but  I  don't have
> > > permission in my default account.  The  last  install I  did a
> > > chgrp / user/share/tomcat5.5-webapps/ROOT www-data but I screwed  the
> > > package up so  bad that I re-installed the system.   Could anyone
> > > tell me how the is typically  done?
> > > Thanks.
> > > Chris
>
> > I use the "user web applications", I think it is a better approach for
> > learning stuff. I put the following in /etc/tomcat5.5/server.xml, in
> > the <host> section:
>
> > <Listener className="org.apache.catalina.startup.UserConfig"
> > directoryName="public_html"
> > userClass="org.apache.catalina.startup.PasswdUserDatabase"/>
>
> > <Context path="/~nyizsa/jsp"
> > docBase="/home/nyizsa/public_html/jsp" debug="0"> </Context>
>
> > My pages can be reached ashttp://localhost:8180/~nyizsa/jsp/, and they
> > are actually located in /home/nyizsa/public_html/jsp.
>
> > You may find more useful information athttp://localhost:8180/tomcat-docs/
>
> > --
> > Szia:
> >                 Nyizsa.
>
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I tried


		  <Host name="localhost" appBase="webapps"
			unpackWARs="true" autoDeploy="true"
			xmlValidation="false" xmlNamespaceAware="false">

			  <Listener className="org.apache.catalina.startup.UserConfig"
				    directoryName="public_html"
userClass="org.apache.catalina.startup.PasswdUserDatabase"/>
			  <Context path="/batymahn/chapter1"
				   docBase="/home/batymahn/public_html/chapter1" debug="0"> </
Context>
		  </Host>

Without luck.  i also tried

	  <Host name="mi-garage" appBase="file:/var/www/mi-garage"
			unpackWARs="true" autoDeploy="true"
			xmlValidation="false" xmlNamespaceAware="false">
			 <context path="mi-garage" docBase="file:/var/www/mi-garage"
debug="0" reloadable="true"/>-->
			  <!--<alias>mi-garage.zapto.org</alias>-->
			  <!--<valve className="org.apache.catalina.valves.AccessLogValve"
directory="/var/log/tomcat5.5/mi-garage" prefix="access_log."
suffix=".txt" pattern="common" resolveHosts="false"/>

		  </Host>
Still can't  get it...  Do I need to  use the manager tool?  My admin
tool  doesn't work although apt-get  says that it's installed.
  It doesn't even  seem to log so can't trouble shoot.
Thanks.
Chris


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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:15 +0200
From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX
Message-ID: <98TVd-7hc-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
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> I write all my texts in latex, use JabRef/bibtex to manage references,
> subversion to keep track of things and to collaborate with coauthors,
> and -- if I need to submit to a journal misguided enough only to accept
> word, latex2rtf.


My wife works in a field where most journals want Word files.  So I thought
I'd try and sell her on LaTeX + some conversion (latex2rtf for example), but
it turns out it's no good for her: even though she's the sole author, she
always sends her articles for feedback/corrections to friends who also want
Word format and then do their modification in-place and send back a Word
file (with changes marked as such), so she could start with a LaTeX file ,
but as soon as the text is ready enough to send to friends, she needs to
convert to Word and then needs to keep working in OOs to integrate the
comments/fixes etc... so she may as well use OOo all the way.


        Stefan


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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:16 +0200
From: =?utf-8?B?QW5kcsOp?= Berger <andre.berger@web.de>
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Subject: Re: udev and automounting
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* Jesus Arocho (2007-09-28):

> Try an entry in /etc/udev/10-local.rules; great howtos on the net.
>=20
> On Thursday 27 September 2007 07:50, Dan H wrote:

[...]

There's also great information on quoting, e.g.
http://www.vranx.de/mail/tofu.html

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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:17 +0200
From: didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@libertysurf.fr>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: efficiency of windows managers
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:59:56 -0500, Preston Boyington wrote:

[...]

> and fyi, i use debian with fluxbox on my P133, 16mb, compaq laptop. :D


Hello Preston,

what version of debian are you talking about? On a P133, 32MB, Dell Lapto=
p
it seemed to me that the last Debian version usable (speed...) was Potato=
.


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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:13 +0200
From: J <j1234f@excite.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Trying to get a network printer HP LaserJet (tm) 2100tn to print from debian
Message-ID: <98TVb-7hc-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Thanks for the pointers.   It helped.  The http://localhost:631 gets
farther.
Had to log in as printer admin which I have been using root login-id.
I went through the pages and it allowed me to choose vendor Hewlett-
Packard.
Then choose HP2100 (there wasn't a HP2100TN network printer) and
then choose drive and I chose HP2100+gutenprint.
The webpage reads "connection to the server at localhost:631."

Looks like cups died when adding a printer:
$ ps auxww | egrep cups
user   9994  0.0  0.0   1760   552 ttyp0    S+   22:12   0:00 grep -E
cups

Printer is still there:
$ nmap 192.168.1.5
Starting Nmap 4.11 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2007-09-27
21:53 PDT
Interesting ports on 192.168.1.5:
Not shown: 1641 filtered ports, 35 closed ports
PORT    STATE SERVICE
21/tcp  open  ftp
23/tcp  open  telnet
80/tcp  open  http
515/tcp open  printer

Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 32.968 seconds

 Printer still working for windows but not for linux.
When it installed on windows it gave it a name beginning with IPP.
Anybody got any other things I can debug or try to type?
Thanks
J

David Brodbeck wrote:

> On Sep 26, 2007, at 3:41 PM, J wrote:
>
> > Trying to get a network printer HP LaserJet (tm) 2100tn to print from
> > debian that I got for free.
> >
>
> > Any how, KDE's add printer cannot scan and find the printer???
> > So, I can't add it.  Should I try to add it as
> > and IPP printer or other type?
>
> For HP printers, I usually use the "socket" method of printing.
> (Sometimes called "raw socket" or "Jetdirect.")  Pretty much every
> network-capable HP printer supports it and it's easy to configure.
>
> If you can't get KDE's add printer to work, try pointing a web
> browser at http://localhost:631/ and setting it up using CUPS's web
> interface.  The URL you'll want to give CUPS is "socket://192.168.1.5".
>
> > $ telnet 192.168.1.5:631
> > telnet: could not resolve 192.168.1.5:631/telnet: Name or service not
> > known
>
> The telnet program expects a space, not a colon, between the address
> and port number.
>
> e.g.,
> $ telnet 192.168.1.5 631
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:11 +0200
From: "Vivek.M" <vivekm1234@cyberspace.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: apt-get file:/; unloading kernel modules (2.6.18).
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> See the manpage of apt_preferences. (search for "local
> site")


Hi, and thanks for helping out. It's not working :(
I tried:
Package: *
Pin: origin ""
Pin-Priority: 1001

Also tried: Pin: origin

apt-cache policy xchat; prints a priority of 500 for both file and
http. I took a look at the apt-howto and then looked at the following
file:
/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-
i386_Packages

This file is supposed to contain:
     *Archive: stable
     Version: 2.2r3
     *Component: main
     *Origin: Debian
     *Label: Debian
     Architecture: i386

But the *'d info is missing.


I also took a look at this file:
/var/lib/apt/lists/_usr_share_debian_disc1_dists_etch_main_binary-
i386_Packages

It has only this info:

Package: adduser
Priority: important
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 900
Maintainer: Debian Adduser Developers <adduser-
devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Architecture: all
Version: 3.102

Note that this meta-data lacks an information regarding origin (http/
file/ftp) is missing? Since, Pin: release/origin need to be fed
parameters (Label, Archive, Origin) to filter on, i guess that
is the reason why it doesn't work??



> See "blacklist" in the manpage of modprobe.conf. Sometimes > it can be necessary to use "install MODULENAME /bin/true" > in addition to the blacklisting.


This didn't work either :(

darkstar> cat /etc/modprobe.d/blockedMods
install fan       /bin/true
install thermal   /bin/true
install processor /bin/true

Also, contents of: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

blacklist fan
blacklist thermal
blacklist processor


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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:12 +0200
From: =?utf-8?B?QW5kcsOp?= Berger <andre.berger@web.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: cronjob problem
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* Angela Gavazzi (2007-09-27):

> Hallo,=20
>=20
> could someone please explain me why the following cronjob generates an =

empy=20

> file when copy-pasting the command to console generates a "full" file?
> It's in roots crontab created with crontab -e
>=20
> 00 21 * * *     /usr/local/ldap/sbin/slapcat=20
> > /var/backups/ldap/dumps/slapdump.`date +\%g\%m\%d_\%k:\%M`
>=20
> Debian version is etch.


/path/to/date

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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:13 +0200
From: "Vivek.M" <vivekm1234@cyberspace.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: efficiency of windows managers
Message-ID: <98TVb-7hc-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

A properly configured olvwm WM.


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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:14 +0200
From: Thomas Dickey <dickey@saltmine.radix.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xterm .Xdefaults & font size
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P=E1l Cs=E1nyi <csanyipal@gmail.com> wrote:


> I edit the .Xdefaults :
> xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

  xterm.*font: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

(the package description for biznet font says it is a bitmap font)

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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:16 +0200
From: "Vivek.M" <vivekm1234@cyberspace.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: apt-get file:/; unloading kernel modules (2.6.18).
Message-ID: <98TVe-7hc-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Update: This works:
Package: *
Pin: origin http.us.debian.org
Pin-Priority: 100

But, this does not work:
Package: *
Pin: origin
Pin-Priority: 100

I did not run dpkg-scanpackages. Instead i mounted my iso images via
loop, and put this in source.list.
deb file:/usr/share/debian/pkg/disc1/ etch contrib main


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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:11 +0200
From: Stefan Bellon <sbellon@sbellon.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Nomachine on Debian unstable?
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On Wed, 26 Sep, Gilles Mocellin wrote:

> Le Tuesday 25 September 2007 07:51:12 Stefan Bellon, vous avez =E9crit=A0:

> > After that I tracked down what happens if I do
> >
> > $ ssh nx@localhost
> >
> > I only got that working when I disabled PAM in my sshd_config and
> > enabled password authentication and empty passwords. But nxclient
> > still cannot connect.
>=20
> I think we can't test a nx login with the default key.
>=20
> $ sudo cat /usr/NX/home/nx/.ssh/authorized_keys2
> no-port-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding,command=3D"/usr/NX/bin/nxserver
> --login" ssh-dss AAAAB3N...


No, why should it not be possible to manually login? As I mentioned,
when I disable PAM, and enable password authentication and empty
passwords, then I *can* login that way and nxserver starts and waits
for me to enter commands.


> Only nxserver can be run with the key.
>=20
> When I try manually, it asks me a passphrase :
> $ sudo cp /usr/NX/home/nx/.ssh/default.id_dsa.pub nx.id_dsa.pub
> $ sudo chown gilles:gilles nx.id_dsa.pub
> $ chmod 600 nx.id_dsa.pub
> $ ssh -i nx.id_dsa.pub nx@guitare /usr/NX/bin/nxserver --login
> Enter passphrase for key 'nx.id_dsa.pub':
>=20
> And I don't know it...


The default has an empty passphrase.


> Perhaps I will have the same problem if I try to upgrade.. Which
> version do you have ?
> I have nxserver_3.0.0-63_x86_64.deb, nxnode_3.0.0-76_x86_64.deb and=20
> nxclient_3.0.0-68_x86_64.deb.


I tried with nxserver_3.0.0-69_i386.deb, nxnode_3.0.0-83_i386.deb and
nxclient_3.0.0-78_i386.deb.

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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:30:14 +0200
From: "Vivek.M" <vivekm1234@cyberspace.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: apt-get file:/; unloading kernel modules (2.6.18).
Message-ID: <98TVc-7hc-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi,

1. I have copied my Debian CDs to hard-disk and have added the
required sources.list lines. The problem is that, when i do a apt-get
install pkg, it tries to load from the internet since they have the
latest pkg. Since i pay for data transfer, i was wondering if there
was a way to tell apt-get to use file:/ instead of the net?

Obviously i don't want to hash out my http:// and ftp:// source.list,
lines because i do install from the net from time to time - also,
every time i hash in the net lines  apt will redownload meta-data and
upto 5-6MB goes waste.

dpkg -i /verylongPath is not an option - i want this working in apt-
get.

2. Is there a way to tell the debian kernel module not to load certain
modules. Blacklisting doesn't seem to be the right way from what i
understood of the man modprobe.conf page. I've got pcspkr, rtc, ipv6,
ali_agp, processor etc loaded and i don;t want to rmmod them - i'd
rather not have them load. Is there any way to do this?

I am using Debian Etch, kernel -2.6.18-5-486.


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Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:03:43 -0700
From: "David Fox" <dfox94085@gmail.com>
To: "Debian Users" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: nvidia-glx and xorg
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On 9/29/07, Francisco M Neto <fmneto.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9/29/07, David Fox <dfox94085@gmail.com> wrote:

> > OK, I'll try it again...OK, m-a a-i got and built the nvidia kernel module....
>
>    Good! =)



Actually, the upgrade to get the nvidia drivers went better than
expected. In sum, I got the nvidia-kernel-source package from sid,
which brought in a few kernel-related and other building related
packages, and then I tried substituting "nvidia" for "nv" in the
xorg.conf file. This did not work, since I was using 2.6.21-k7 kernel
from Etch, and because it couldn't load the module because of the
paravirt ops thing. So I rebooted into sid's kernel (2.6.22-2-k7) and
tried to start X again. This time if failed because the module
couldn't be found. No duh, because of course, I had compiled
nvidia-kernel-source for 2.6.21 and not 2.6.22-2. So OK, I go and
rerun m-a a-i nvidia, build it, and then finally I am able to startx
again and the nvidia splash screen comes up just like it should :). Oh
joy.. and 3d direct rendering works again! sweet! :)

compiz may be really really old because it starts out but it froze the
whole x session within a minute or so (i just saw a little wobbly in
my windows!) and I had to reboot the computer :(.


> Francisco
>
Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:12:10 +0000
From: Andy Smith <andy@lug.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)
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Hi Jabka,

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 06:38:14PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:

> Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:30 [ERROR] Can't
> start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address
> Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:30 [ERROR] Do you
> already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ?


So, please check if there is already a mysqld running.  You might
want to use "ps", "netstat -an", and/or "lsof -p <pid>".

Also please can you post your /etc/mysql/my.cnf file.

Cheers,
Andy

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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:18:14 -0400
From: Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX
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On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 01:30:15AM +0200, Stefan Monnier wrote:

> > I write all my texts in latex, use JabRef/bibtex to manage references,
> > subversion to keep track of things and to collaborate with coauthors,
> > and -- if I need to submit to a journal misguided enough only to accept
> > word, latex2rtf.
> 
> My wife works in a field where most journals want Word files.  So I thought
> I'd try and sell her on LaTeX + some conversion (latex2rtf for example), but
> it turns out it's no good for her: even though she's the sole author, she
> always sends her articles for feedback/corrections to friends who also want
> Word format and then do their modification in-place and send back a Word
> file (with changes marked as such), so she could start with a LaTeX file ,
> but as soon as the text is ready enough to send to friends, she needs to
> convert to Word and then needs to keep working in OOs to integrate the
> comments/fixes etc... so she may as well use OOo all the way.
> 

If she had a private wiki (password protected), she could post the
article there, invite folks to edit it with user accounts, track changes
and comments, then IIRC there may tools to translate wiki-markup into
various formats like tex or something more friendly that could be sent
to the journal.

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Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:59:58 -0700
From: Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: efficiency of windows managers
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> I found that the litest is icewm.  Works great on my P-II-133 with 64 MB
> ram and on my 486DX4-100 with 32 MB ram.  The 486 wouldn't run Etch so
> it runs great with OpenBSD.  Woody also runs great on it.  Iceweasel
> takes a long time to render.
> 
> Doug.


Try DWM. Much lighter than icewm. Also instead of iceweasel, use a CLI web browser such as links2 (much better that lynx IMHO).

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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 05:10:13 -0400
From: mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris Bannister)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian may lose a user
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On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 10:25:10AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:30:29 -0400, Chris Bannister <mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz> said: 
> > Apparently policy does not list requirements but best practices. IOW
> > policy is not (supposed to be(?)) used to enforce behaviour.
> 
>         No, Policy must directives are things package must comply
>  with, or they are thrown out of the release (unless release managers
>  offer dispensation).
> 
>         However, policy _changes_ tend to be conservative, and policy is
>  not where you do design and tinkering. So  new stuff needs to be
>  tested, and deployed, and  _then_ policy changes.  Policy also does not
>  tend to change rapidly and make gazillions of packages instantly
>  buggy.
> 
> > Please correct my statement(s) if I am off target.
> 
>         You are.


Thanks for clarifying matters.

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Chris.
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