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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2517

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Re: etch + xp                     [ "Gargi"  ]
  Re: apt-get file:/; unloading kernel  [ Joey Hess  ]
  Re: how to automatically start bitto  [ Andrei Popescu  ]
  Re: Re: etch + xp                     [ "Henrique G. Abreu"  ]
  Re: Trying to find a realtime patche  [ Andrei Popescu 
  Re: [Fwd: Re: 'manual' x configurati  [ Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmai ]
  Re: 'manual' x configuration - where  [ Martin Waller <martinej.waller@ntlw ]



Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:59:29 +0200


From: "Gargi" <mailings.debian@gargi.org>
To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>


Subject: Re: Re: etch + xp


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> Hi Pierre,
>> > On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 09:41:48AM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am running etch in a machine with two HDs. Etch is running in the
>> >> master HD (hdc), the second HD (hdd), the slave, is empty. In the 
>> >> second
>> >> hd (hdd) I need to install windows xp. I wonder how to do that in 
>> >> order
>> >> to get a dual boot system, managed by grub. The bios let me define the
>> >> HD from which the system boots. Now the bios is configured to boot 
>> >> from
>> >> hdc, where etch (and grub) resides: hdc-hdd. Due that during the 
>> >> install
>> >> of xp the system re-boots several times from the HD, I wonder if I can
>> >> install xp on hdd simply inverting the boot sequence: hdd-hdc, and,
>> >> after the installation of xp, inverting the sequence again: hdc-hdd, 
>> >> in
>> >> order to boot with grub.
>> >>
>> >> If it is possible, I guess I still need to tell grub that there is
>> >> another OS in the system. How can I do that?
>> >>
>> >
>> > I thought that windows was a megalomaniac and would only work from the
>> > first hard drive of the first controller (hda).
>> >
>> > Don't know for sure since I haven't used Windows since 3.1.
>> >
>> > Doug.
>>
>> Nope. XP will boot from another partition too. hda1 or sda1 is not a 
>> option
>> for it. But it will install its own bootmanager into the mbr. So save 
>> your
>> mbr first with dd (BEFORE you install XP!!!!). You can put the etch
>> bootimage onto your hard disk and call it by the XP bootloader by setting 
>> a
>> line to the XP boot.ini (save it on a usb-stick e.g. to transfer it after
>> the XP is installed).
>
> But I want to install XP in another disk, different from which etch is
> installed. So XP will install its own bootmanager into the mbr of this
> different disk. Am I wright? Remember that I can tell the bios from what
> disk the system boots. I gues I can use this in order to make the system
> boot from the second disk, where XP is being installed, making XP ignore
> the disk where etch is installed.

XP will install it into the Master Boot Record. That's the one on the first 
disc who is to boot. Changing the boot priority or the order of the disk 
could cause troubles.


You wrote, that you are Using the first IDE disc as


Do you need help?X

hdc



Normally the first disc is hda, so have you a DVD Rom or something like it 
connected as primary master?


If XP will write its bootloader onto the mbr of the 2nd disc if it is 
remapped by the bios I don't now. It is a risk to lose your bootmanager on 
the first disc if windows won't get the trick. Therefore I would save the 
old mbr for any evil case.


>> If you have a SATA disc:
>> dd if=/dev/sda of=/home/[your username]/etch.lin bs=512 count=1
>>
>
> Both disk are ATA, not SATA. The line is the same in this case?

primary master is hda


primary slave hdb


secondary master hdc


secondary slave hdd



If it is a primary master, the line is



dd if=/dev/hda of=/home/[your username]/etch.lin bs=512 count=1



>> Insert this line into your xp boot.ini (if XP uses the partition as 
>> C:\ ):
>>
>> c:\etch.lin="Debian Etch"
>>
>> That gives you a new bootoption in your XP bootloader. From there you can
>> start Etch again and repair the grub bootloader if you want to stick to
>> grub.
>
> Thank you!

No problem :)


Do you need more help?X

cu


Pierre 



Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:19:46 -0400


From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>


To: "Vivek.M" <vivekm1234@cyberspace.org>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: apt-get file:/; unloading kernel modules (2.6.18).

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Vivek.M wrote:

> 2. Is there a way to tell the debian kernel module not to load certain
> modules. Blacklisting doesn't seem to be the right way from what i
> understood of the man modprobe.conf page. I've got pcspkr, rtc, ipv6,
> ali_agp, processor etc loaded and i don;t want to rmmod them - i'd
> rather not have them load. Is there any way to do this?

See the "documentation" at http://bugs,debian.org/426166

--=20


see shy jo



Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:48:43 +0300


From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: how to automatically start bittornado seeding when sarge boot

Can we help you?X

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On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 06:16:07AM -0700, Serena Cantor wrote:

> I want to make my sarge box a seeding peer in bittornado
>=20
> Which script should I edit to add bittornado command?

One option is /etc/init.d/rc.local


> how make bittornado logging info on status of seeding?

I don't know, did you read the man page?



Regards,


Andrei


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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:39:40 +0200


From: David Baron <d_baron@012.net.il>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Trying to find a realtime patched kernel for Etch

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On Sunday 30 September 2007, debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org 
wrote:

>  realise there are no realtime patched kernels on the main debian repo's,
> and have been googling a bit, and found this.
>
> http://pkg-freebob.alioth.debian.org/lowlat.html
>
> It says to add the line below to /etc/apt/sources.list, but after running
> apt-get update, and opening synaptic, I can't find a source pkg for the
> 2.6.21 kernel.
>
> deb http://pkg-freebob.alioth.debian.org/debian unstable main
>
> The only 2.6.21 kernel there appears to be a realtime patched one, but is a
> k7 one. As my machine uses a 1.3GHz celeron, I don't suppose this is going
> to work, is it?
> linux-image-2.6.21-2-k7rt8
>
> Anyone any suggestions to get realtime working, if the above kernel is a no
> goer?
>
> The problem I have is that when starting jackd there are loads of xruns
> showing in it's messages, and when playing a music app, horgand for
> example, I am getting static like noise every so often when playing notes.
>
> Any help/suggestions appreciated.

Add this to /etc/apt/sources.list:


deb ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb/ ./



After apt-get update, you will see various 2.6.21 rt patched kernels, modules 
and sources (as well as most recent Ardour and Rosegarden to use them.


Don't know where to look next?X

This repository is slow mollasis, however.



Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:25:40 -0300


From: "Henrique G. Abreu" <hgabreu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Re: etch + xp


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if you lose your MBR, I think the easiest way to recover it
is booting from debian cd in rescue mode
type "rescue" before installation starts
then go to console, mount your hd, chroot to it and re-install grub
$ mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt


# I'm guessing that it's hdc1 where root ( / ) is.

$ cd /mnt
$ chroot .
$ grub-install /dev/hdc



ctrl + alt + del


your done!



hint: you will probably lose your MBR, like Douglas sad: windows is
megalomaniac




On 9/30/07, Owen Heisler <owenh000@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Sun, 2007.09.30 13:14, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> > But I want to install XP in another disk, different from which etch is
> > installed. So XP will install its own bootmanager into the mbr of this
> > different disk. Am I wright? Remember that I can tell the bios from what
> > disk the system boots. I gues I can use this in order to make the system
> > boot from the second disk, where XP is being installed, making XP ignore
> > the disk where etch is installed.
>
> Windows XP will overwrite the MBR of the first drive listed by the BIOS
> (the
> one that is booted), so set the BIOS to boot from whatever drive you want
> Windows to replace the MBR of.  When you're done installing, switch it
> back,
> boot Debian, and set up grub to boot Windows with 'chainload'.
>
> Back up your MBR first though.  And: when I set up grub to boot Windows
> once
> for someone else, I found grub's 'hide' command and used it to hide the
> Debian
> partitions, thinking that the less Windows saw, the better.  But Windows
> (XP),
> when those partitions were 'hidden' by grub, changed the partition types
> to
> Amoeba (whatever that is) and then grub would give an error on the next
> boot.
> Of course, problems like that should be expected when running Windows on a
> system.
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-- 
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henrique@turbokit.com.br

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if you lose your MBR, I think the easiest way to recover it
is booting from debian cd in rescue mode
type "rescue" before installation starts
then go to console, mount your hd, chroot to it and re-install grub

$ mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt
# I'm guessing that it's hdc1 where root ( / ) is.
$ cd /mnt
$ chroot .
$ grub-install /dev/hdc
ctrl + alt + del
your done!

hint: you will probably lose your MBR, like Douglas sad: windows is megalomaniac

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On 9/30/07, Owen Heisler <owenh000@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 2007.09.30 13:14, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> But I want to install XP in another disk, different from which etch is
> installed. So XP will install its own bootmanager into the mbr of this
> different disk. Am I wright? Remember that I can tell the bios from what

> disk the system boots. I gues I can use this in order to make the system
> boot from the second disk, where XP is being installed, making XP ignore
> the disk where etch is installed.

Windows XP will overwrite the MBR of the first drive listed by the BIOS (the

one that is booted), so set the BIOS to boot from whatever drive you want
Windows to replace the MBR of.  When you're done installing, switch it back,
boot Debian, and set up grub to boot Windows with 'chainload'.


Back up your MBR first though.  And: when I set up grub to boot Windows once
for someone else, I found grub's 'hide' command and used it to hide the Debian
partitions, thinking that the less Windows saw, the better.  But Windows (XP),

when those partitions were 'hidden' by grub, changed the partition types to
Amoeba (whatever that is) and then grub would give an error on the next boot.
Of course, problems like that should be expected when running Windows on a

Do you need help?X


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-- 
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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:58:50 +0200 (CEST)
From: "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?
Message-ID: <slrnffvvvq.p8c.keeling@heretic.nucleus.com>

Martin Waller <martinej.waller@ntlworld.com>:

> 
>  xf86config to reconfigure it. What happened to that utlity?  I cannot 
>  work out what package it's in.


(0) heretic /home/keeling_ apt-file search xf86config
doc-linux-html: usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Xinerama-HOWTO/editxf86config.html
doc-linux-html: usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Xinerama-HOWTO/xf86config.html
xmanpages-ja: usr/share/man/ja/man1/xf86config.1x.gz


>  Also, in the debian reference manual, at 
>  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-xsrvr, it 
>  refers to xserver-common-v3 (I think I need this as I have an old matrox 
>  card)- I can find no such package in etch - is the ref manual out of 


(0) heretic /home/keeling_ lspci | grep -i vga
01:08.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 2164W [Millennium II]

That's a 4 Mb PCI card.  Works fine with Version: 1:7.1.0-19 (Etch).
For some Matrox cards, you may be better off trying the generic vesa
svga server.


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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:01:38 +0300
From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Trying to find a realtime patched kernel for Etch
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On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 12:18:29PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:

> On 09/30/2007 11:16 AM, Nigel Henry wrote:
>> I realise there are no realtime patched kernels on the main debian repo'=

s,=20

>> and have been googling a bit, and found this.
>> http://pkg-freebob.alioth.debian.org/lowlat.html
>> [...]
>
> I'm not a Sid user, but evidently you have to install linux-patch-rt and=

=20

Couldn't find it ..., but I found schedtool.


> apply it to the kernel source. I don't know what rtirq is, but look at=20
> that one too.


Is that in the archives?

Regards,
Andrei
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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:24:08 +0300
From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?]
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On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 09:10:08PM +0100, Martin Waller wrote:


> Thanks for yours and other's input to my irritating problem :)


Did you try dexconf?

Regards,
Andrei
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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:09:39 +0100
From: Martin Waller <martinej.waller@ntlworld.com>
To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Cc: "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com>
Subject: Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?
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s. keeling wrote:

> Martin Waller <martinej.waller@ntlworld.com>:
>   
>>  xf86config to reconfigure it. What happened to that utlity?  I cannot 
>>  work out what package it's in.
>>     
>
> (0) heretic /home/keeling_ apt-file search xf86config
> doc-linux-html: usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Xinerama-HOWTO/editxf86config.html
> doc-linux-html: usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Xinerama-HOWTO/xf86config.html
> xmanpages-ja: usr/share/man/ja/man1/xf86config.1x.gz
>   

sorry - just what does that add to the issue?  I'm not intersted in 
Xinerama or html pages...

>   
>>  Also, in the debian reference manual, at 
>>  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-xsrvr, it 
>>  refers to xserver-common-v3 (I think I need this as I have an old matrox 
>>  card)- I can find no such package in etch - is the ref manual out of 
>>     
>
> (0) heretic /home/keeling_ lspci | grep -i vga
> 01:08.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 2164W [Millennium II]
>
> That's a 4 Mb PCI card.  Works fine with Version: 1:7.1.0-19 (Etch).
> For some Matrox cards, you may be better off trying the generic vesa
> svga server.
>
>
>   

Lucky you. 

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