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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2521

Today's Topics:

  Re: 'manual' x configuration - where  [ "s. keeling"  ]
  Re: /proc/net info ?                  [ "Predrag Gavrilovic"  ]
  Re: problem with postfix and libsasl  [ Sam Leon  ]
  problem with postfix and libsasl2     [ Daniele Salatti  ]
  Re: Help Please                       [ "s. keeling"  ]
  Re: webmail for low-end VPS           [ KS  ]
  Major application resource leaks in   [ Marty  ]
  Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs     [ Ron Johnson  ]

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:25:47 +0200 (CEST) From: "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config? Message-ID: <slrnfg052r.p8c.keeling@heretic.nucleus.com>

Martin Waller <martinej.waller@ntlworld.com>:
> s. keeling wrote:
> > Martin Waller <martinej.waller@ntlworld.com>:
> >
> >> xf86config to reconfigure it. What happened to that utlity? I cannot
> >> work out what package it's in.
> >
> > (0) heretic /home/keeling_ apt-file search xf86config
>
> sorry - just what does that add to the issue? I'm not intersted in
> Xinerama or html pages...

apt-file knows everything there is to know about Debian package contents. If that's all it knows about xf86config, you're pretty safe to assume there is no xf86config in Debian.

> >> refers to xserver-common-v3 (I think I need this as I have an old matrox
> >> card)- I can find no such package in etch - is the ref manual out of
> >
> > (0) heretic /home/keeling_ lspci | grep -i vga
> > 01:08.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 2164W [Millennium II]
> >
> > That's a 4 Mb PCI card. Works fine with Version: 1:7.1.0-19 (Etch).
>
> Lucky you.

Do you need help?

Note to self: ignore pleas for help from M. Waller in the future.

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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:14:16 +0200 From: "Predrag Gavrilovic" <gavrilovic@gmail.com> To: "chloe K" <chloekcy2000@yahoo.ca> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: /proc/net info ? Message-ID: <690842eb0709301414k34f34fcfge7172a7beffd7ddb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline According to http://lartc.org/ chapter 13 you can find more info in Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt of linux kernel documentation, and they also mention http://ipsysctl-tutorial.frozentux.net/ 2007/9/28, chloe K <chloekcy2000@yahoo.ca>:
> Hi all
>
> How can I find out all info about /proc/net ?
>
> eg: rt_cache and softnet_stat are for what purpose
>
> Thank you
>
> ________________________________
> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the
> boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:17:35 -0400 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?] Message-ID: <20070930211735.GB7257@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 10:09:31PM +0100, Martin Waller wrote:
> Right - got X working (dunno how - just ran through dpg-reconfigure
> xserver-xorg again with same inputs and suddenly it gives me something)
> but with crappo resolution.
>
It looks like its giving you 1024 x 768. What do you think you're getting? What happens if you cycle through with Ctrl-Alt-Keypad+/- ? What resolution do you think you should get with 4 MB video ram? Doug.

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:19:50 -0400 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?] Message-ID: <20070930211950.GC7257@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 05:12:50PM -0400, Ralph Katz wrote:
>
> I've been stumped before trying to configure X on an old sarge system.
> What solved my problem when all else failed was.... to load knoppix,
> then extract the needed info from knoppix's X config file. Ugly, but
> effective.
>
I never could get X working with Sarge's drivers. I ended up keeping Woody's X system installed. Debian doesn't run that well on my old boxes, so I tend to use OpenBSD. Their Xorg stuff runs just fine on video cards that don't need closed-source drivers. Doug.

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:22:51 -0400 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: resize the partition with / Message-ID: <20070930212251.GD7257@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 04:17:42PM -0400, Manu Hack wrote:
>
> I have a problem with an old desktop running etch. Before it was
> running XP + etch dual boot. But recently I have deleted the whole XP
> partition. Now the problem is I started running out of space for the
> etch. I want to resize the partition so that I can install more
> programs and stuff like that. The current partition is like
>
> hda1 - 5G (before running XP)
> hda2 - 1G ( etch is living here)
>
> So I'd like to resize hda2 but I can't as it said I need to unmount
> hda2 before resizing. People suggest using a live CD but it's not
> possible with my old laptop (I didn't even install etch using CD, I
> can only install etch via goodbyemicrosoft.com). USB boot is also not
> available.
>
Have you considered reinstalling onto hda1 without removing hda2? Use debootstrap from your existing system. Make a grub-disk (floppy, so your laptop can boot it) so that you can set up your boot loader if something happens. See the installation manual for installing from an existing unix system. Doug.

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:28:40 -0700 From: Marc Shapiro <mshapiro_42@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: resize the partition with / Message-ID: <47001508.6060807@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 04:17:42PM -0400, Manu Hack wrote:
>
>> I have a problem with an old desktop running etch. Before it was >> running XP + etch dual boot. But recently I have deleted the whole XP >> partition. Now the problem is I started running out of space for the >> etch. I want to resize the partition so that I can install more >> programs and stuff like that. The current partition is like >> >> hda1 - 5G (before running XP) >> hda2 - 1G ( etch is living here) >> >> So I'd like to resize hda2 but I can't as it said I need to unmount >> hda2 before resizing. People suggest using a live CD but it's not >> possible with my old laptop (I didn't even install etch using CD, I >> can only install etch via goodbyemicrosoft.com). USB boot is also not >> available. >> >> >
> Have you considered reinstalling onto hda1 without removing hda2?
>
Or mount hda1 at some point on hda2 where you need the extra space. Voila! 5 GB extra space. You could also remove hda1 and recreate several partitions if you want to add space at multiple points in your filesystem. -- Marc Shapiro mshapiro_42@yahoo.com

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:37:38 +0200 From: Sjoerd Hiemstra <shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: euro symbol in xterm (fvwm) Message-Id: <20070930233738.5e925af3.shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Kleene wrote:
> I'm testing UTF8 performance on my Etch machine. Everything seems
> fine with one exception: the Euro symbol doesn't display in my xterms
This was discussed in this list some time ago. JW Stumpel pointed to his site explaining how to do it: "Configuring xterm for UTF-8". http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/xterm.html In short, you need to install xfonts-efont-unicode and configure ~/.Xresources or ~/.Xdefaults. I've been happily running xterm with unicode characters (using fluxbox) ever since, including the Euro symbol.

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:36:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Felix Karpfen <felixk@webone.com.au> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: iscan frustration Compounded! Message-ID: <fdp4t3$biv$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:59:26 +0000, Chris Davies wrote:
> Thomas H. George <lists@tomgeorge.info> wrote:
>> I own two Epson scanners, a Perfection 2400 Photo and a Perfection V10= 0 >> Photo. >=20 >> Neither work with Debian Linux. >=20
> Check the location of the firmware file, esfw41.bin. A few upgrades ago=
,
> my system also lost the configuration entry in /etc/sane.d/snapscan.con=
f
> that defined this.
I would be very grateful for further details, since I am an amateur with a <similar|worse> problem. The problem is similar because Debian Etch (kernel 2.6.18) is looking for the firmware file in the wrong directory. The error message reads: /usr/share/iscan/esfw54.bin/esfw54.bin : Not a directory "esfw54.bin" is not a directory but a file and it is located in "/usr/share/iscan/" (with copies in a few other places - just in case the alternatives locations are easier to find) The problem is worse, because it is intermittent. Whenever I reboot the system, it is a gamble. Sometimes the scanner is found and sometimes I get the above error message. I have no problems if I choose to use Debian Sarge (kernel 2.6.8). All suggestions will be gratefully received. Felix Karpfen --=20 Felix Karpfen Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA)

Do you need more help?

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:52:51 -0400 From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: FLOSS support for signed PDFs Message-Id: <20070930175251.8f735380.celejar@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, A financial institution refused to enable electronic delivery unless it detected Acrobat Reader installed on my system. When I challenged it on this, mentioning that I use non-proprietary apps for PDF reading, the response was as follows:
> Due to the security placed on certain items, such as our online
> statements, the Adobe Acrobat Reader is required to sign up for the
> paperless services. [Our] statements are created using Adobe
> Acrobat software and a digital signature is added for security purposes.
> As the Adobe Acrobat Reader is currently the only PDF reader that fully
> supports digitally signed PDF files, this software is required to ensure
> that the document is genuine.
>
> We regret any inconvenience caused because the Adobe Acrobat Reader is
> required, and we appreciate that you contacted us for additional
> information. We do take customer feedback seriously, and your comments
> have been passed on to the proper parties for review when determining
> how we can best update our services in the future.
Is there really no FLOSS app that can handle PDF signatures? I suppose the institution could use PGP or some other better supported technology, but as long as they choose to use Acrobat's solution, do I really have no choice? Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:18:25 -0500 From: Sam Leon <sam@datanet.ath.cx> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: problem with postfix and libsasl2 Message-ID: <470020B1.5070100@datanet.ath.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniele Salatti wrote:
> Hi!
> I'm trying to set up a mailserver on Debian etch for the first time,
> but I have a problem: every time I restart postfix I get this message:
>
> /usr/sbin/postconf: /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2: no version
> information available (required by /usr/sbin/postconf)
>
> Any idea on how can I fix it? I can't use SASL...
>
> TIA
> Daniele
> >
> --------------------------------------------
> http://www.salatti.net/
> > You might not have it installed. For a normal postfix setup you need the packages: postfix libsasl2 sasl2-bin libsasl2-modules libdb3-util procmail What do you mean that you can't use SASL? You can't use it because it is not installed or because you don't want to? Sam

Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:08:43 +0200 From: Daniele Salatti <danielesalatti@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: problem with postfix and libsasl2 Message-ID: <47001E6B.1020103@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I'm trying to set up a mailserver on Debian etch for the first time, but I have a problem: every time I restart postfix I get this message: /usr/sbin/postconf: /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2: no version information available (required by /usr/sbin/postconf) Any idea on how can I fix it? I can't use SASL... TIA Daniele -------------------------------------------- http://www.salatti.net/

Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:14:42 +0200 From: Daniele Salatti <danielesalatti@gmail.com> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: problem with postfix and libsasl2 Message-ID: <47001FD2.3020707@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I'm trying to set up a mailserver on Debian etch for the first time, but I have a problem: every time I restart postfix I get this message: /usr/sbin/postconf: /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2: no version information available (required by /usr/sbin/postconf) Any idea on how can I fix it? I can't use SASL... TIA Daniele -------------------------------------------- http://www.salatti.net/

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:37:23 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Spring clean Message-ID: <20070930223723.GZ4870@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qy9NDBoEzxL7V3MP" Content-Disposition: inline --qy9NDBoEzxL7V3MP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 11:53:17AM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> >=20
> > >What GUI are you referring to?
> >=20
> > I think they may have been referring to synaptic package manager or
> > adept package manager.
> >=20
>=20
> Actually the GUI he was referring to is the native aptitude ui, which is =
an ncurses based user interface. Very very powerful in my opinion. Simply l= aunch aptitude from the terminal. exactly. A --qy9NDBoEzxL7V3MP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHACUjaIeIEqwil4YRAt8zAJ44wC0zXOltCrd/mdfd8p2RdLh5yACdEdFg MBTXI+wOY5ZghDLiKfo+L2Y= =oKBa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qy9NDBoEzxL7V3MP--

Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:31:36 +0200 From: Daniele Salatti <danielesalatti@gmail.com> To: Sam Leon <sam@datanet.ath.cx> Cc: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: problem with postfix and libsasl2 Message-ID: <470023C8.60608@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sam Leon wrote:
> Daniele Salatti wrote:
>> Hi! >> I'm trying to set up a mailserver on Debian etch for the first time, >> but I have a problem: every time I restart postfix I get this message: >> >> /usr/sbin/postconf: /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2: no version >> information available (required by /usr/sbin/postconf) >> >> Any idea on how can I fix it? I can't use SASL... >> >> TIA >> Daniele >> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> http://www.salatti.net/ >> >> >
> You might not have it installed. For a normal postfix setup you need
> the packages: postfix libsasl2 sasl2-bin libsasl2-modules libdb3-util
> procmail
>
> What do you mean that you can't use SASL? You can't use it because it
> is not installed or because you don't want to?
>
> Sam
> > Hi Sam I can't use it because of this error (I think). It's installed...but someway not working. I'm following an how-to, and when I reach this point (http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/#id28 - Authenticated SMTP) I can't access my smtp as shown in the example. (Sorry, but my english is not so good...) Daniele

Date: 30 Sep 2007 15:44:04 -0700 From: Carl Johnson <carlj@peak.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?] Message-ID: <87przzbwp7.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Martin Waller <martinej.waller@ntlworld.com> writes:
> Right - got X working (dunno how - just ran through dpg-reconfigure
> xserver-xorg again with same inputs and suddenly it gives me
> something) but with crappo resolution.
>
> Here's my Xorg.conf: (what dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wrote):
>
> # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
> #
> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
> # values from the debconf database.
---- snipped ---
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Default Screen"
> Device "matrox"
> Monitor "DELL D1226H"
> DefaultDepth 24
it says here that you are selecting 24 bit color mode --- snip more ---
> and here's my /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
>
>
> X Window System Version 7.1.1
> Release Date: 12 May 2006
> (--) MGA(0): VideoRAM: 4096 kByte
it only detects 4MB of video RAM the best you can expect is 1024x768 with that amount of RAM, and that is what it says it is using later. If you have more RAM you may be able to specify the actual RAM in the video section of Xorg.conf file. If you actually have only 4MB of RAM and 1600x1200 resolution then you will have to change the DefaultDepth to either 16 bit or 8 bit color. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org

Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 01:09:25 +0200 (CEST) From: "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Help Please Message-ID: <slrnfg0b54.p8c.keeling@heretic.nucleus.com> Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>: >
> (I can only confirm that the 2.6.22 version of sc92031.c has the text
> "Rsltek 8139D PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter driver" in the source code.)
....^^^^^^ Is that a typo, or is a wishlist bug in order? -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Please, don't Cc: me.

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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:58:08 -0400 From: KS <lists04@fastmail.fm> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: webmail for low-end VPS Message-ID: <47002A00.7080609@fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John K Masters wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a webmail app suitable for a low-end VPS. I already
> have Postfix/Courier setup.
>
> It looks like I have three choices:
> 1. Squirrelmail
> 2. Roundcube
> 3. Imp4/Horde
>
> I have used squirrelmail before and was not impressed but have heard
> that Imp4 is resource hungry. That leaves Roundcube, of which I have no
> experience. Any suggestions?
>
> Regards, John
My webhost is testing Roundcube and asked me to try it out. I took a quick look: I would say it is still in alpha stages because of various inconsistencies in features. E.g. if you delete an email using the "Send to Trash" button it ended up in the Trash only a few times while all other times it just disappeared! The AJAXified(hence needs Javascript) interface sometimes goes crazy with selecting a whole lot of text on the page. One can't define filters yet. It doesn't have a pretty editor for composing email. I only use text email but some of your users might want rich text. /KS

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:59:03 -0400 From: Marty <martyb@ix.netcom.com> To: debian list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Major application resource leaks in Etch Message-ID: <47002A37.9090503@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While copying 30MB of text from a backuppc (web-based) log on a remote server, I ran into several problems: 1) Selecting the text using the Iceape edit->select-all menu option pegs the 2.8GB CPU at 100% for tens of seconds, although it is much faster in subsequent attempts. 2) Each repetition causes two 60MB clipboard cache files to appear in /tmp. They persist after logging out of Gnome. 2) Pasting the text into kedit, or cutting it, pegs the CPU from 10s of seconds to a few minutes, and virtual memory usage approaches 2GB, increasing each time I repeat the operation. (I stop before 2G only to avoid swapping. I have no evidence that the leak is bounded.) Since I am aware of the clipboard files I probably could probably safely delete them, but most users would be forced to reboot when their system mysteriously becomes unresponsive. It doesn't appear to be Etch-specific. I duplicated the problem in Sarge using Firefox, but the symptoms differed: the CPU usage delays were greater, but only one clipboard file was produced after each text selection, and this was reflected in 50% less virtual memory leakage.

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:19:10 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs Message-ID: <47002EEE.7060108@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/07 16:52, Celejar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A financial institution refused to enable electronic delivery unless it
> detected Acrobat Reader installed on my system. When I challenged it
> on this, mentioning that I use non-proprietary apps for PDF reading,
> the response was as follows:
>
>> Due to the security placed on certain items, such as our online >> statements, the Adobe Acrobat Reader is required to sign up for the >> paperless services. [Our] statements are created using Adobe >> Acrobat software and a digital signature is added for security purposes. >> As the Adobe Acrobat Reader is currently the only PDF reader that fully >> supports digitally signed PDF files, this software is required to ensure >> that the document is genuine. >> >> We regret any inconvenience caused because the Adobe Acrobat Reader is >> required, and we appreciate that you contacted us for additional >> information. We do take customer feedback seriously, and your comments >> have been passed on to the proper parties for review when determining >> how we can best update our services in the future.
>
> Is there really no FLOSS app that can handle PDF signatures? I suppose
> the institution could use PGP or some other better supported
> technology, but as long as they choose to use Acrobat's solution, do I
> really have no choice?
Not at this time. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHAC7uS9HxQb37XmcRAnkiAKCuVwsXTbra4OLU+m8kN/WbfKajIQCgietH bkkIFNtLnmVDWW8Tg1m1YQs= =yPlC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2521 ************************************************** Received on Sun Sep 30 20:12:35 2007

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