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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2546
Today's Topics:
Re: Dependency Error == Unable to In [ Andrew Sackville-West ]
Re: SuperTux displays blank screen o [ Matthew K Poer ]
Trouble with downloaded images... [ blues ]
Re: Trouble with downloaded images.. [ Amit Uttamchandani ]
Re: Gnome delete user [ Jim Hall ]
Re: Gnome delete user [ Jim Hall ]
Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs [ Celejar ]
Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs [ Celejar ]
Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs [ Celejar ]
Re: wake-on-lan [ jacek2 ]
Re: cups yet again [ Bob C ]
Re: Printer setup problem in Etch [ Bob C ]
Pertenecer a la empresa [ "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9sar_Augusto_Gar ]
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:20:58 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Dependency Error == Unable to Install Anything Else
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On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:52:36PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 23:36 +0200, David Paleino wrote:
> > dpkg --force-overwrite
> > -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libpth20_2.0.7-8_i386.deb
>=20
> That worked. I was at least able to update the kernel. Now there's a> problem installing the latest nVidia video drivers.
>=20
> The kernel was compiled with GCC 4.1 apparently, and the drivers require> 4.2, which I have installed. However, the installation fails due to the> kernel having been compiled with 4.1.
are you running a mixed system? it sounds like you are and you likely
need to address a number of issue that just haven't shown up yet.
A
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:24:25 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: capping the apt-getting of packages from ftp.xy.debian.org to
< 50KBps?
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On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 11:51:16PM +0100, Frank Wilson wrote:
> > I gather that you've tried several different mirrors, right? What kind
> > of d/l speed do you get using any of the free bandwidth testers?
> >
>=20
> Well I went to speedtest.net (I don't know if that's a good one or> not!). They gave me 275Kbps down and 354Kbps up (that's bits this> time!). Those figures look the wrong way around but it seems i have> more upstream than downstream (i tested it twice).
interesting. sounds like, if there is lots to p2p going an as you
mention below, that they're mostly leeching.=20
>=20
> The thing is when I use a download accelerator (parallel downloads) to> download say eclipse ornetbeans. My download speed is more or less> alright(100-150KBytes/sec). So I guess maybe I'm just fighting it out> with with people doing lots of p2p.
sounds like you're having some serious QoS issues there. What kind of
connection? what are the expected speed?=20
A
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:29:11 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: bash expansion crap...
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On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 02:22:41PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 01:57:44PM -0700, ss11223 wrote:
> > On Oct 2, 3:40 pm, Andrew Sackville-West <and...@farwestbilliards.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hey folks, help me out with this...please
> > >
> > > andrew@basement:~$ for i in {1..3}; do echo $i; done
> > > 1
> > > 2
> > > 3
> > > andrew@basement:~$ TEST=3D3; for i in {1..$TEST}; do echo $i; done
> > > {1..3}
> > >
> > > in the first example, its obvious. In the second, $TEST gets replaced
> > > with 3, but then the {} doesn't get expanded. I'm sure I have to do
> > > some kind of wacky $({[ type thing, but I'm not able to grok it. any
> > > ideas?
> > >
> > > the purpose is to be able to easily update some loops in a script for
> > > different numbers of object to iterate over. obvious, I guess.
> > >
> > > A
> > >
> > > signature.asc
> > > 1KDownload
> >=20
> > This works for me, BASH can do arithmetic!
> >=20
> > TEST=3D3; for (( i=3D1; i<=3D$TEST; i++)); do echo $i; done
>=20
> okay, that's much better than Mike Bird's
>=20
> for i in $(eval echo {1..$TEST})=20
>=20
> in that it's much clearer, to my eye, what's happening.> thanks
just to wrap up this whole thing... looks I was having trouble seeing
the forest for the one large tree right in front of me. I love how
that happens -- encounter a problem like trying to get this variable
to expand, spend a bit of time trying to suss out the problem of
getting that variable to expand when all around me were numerous
alternative ways to do the same thing.=20
Someone give me some nails for my hammer here...
A
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:16:32 -0500
From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: P-II ASUS box won't boot another drive
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- Douglas A. Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> [071002 18:21]:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:38:38PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>
> > In order to get the system to boot, I found it necessary to install
> > the 32Gbyte clip jumper on any drive larger than 32Gbyte.
> >
> > Once the system boots, W2000 thinks it is running on a 32Gbyte drive.
> > However, Debian sees the entire drive, despite the clip jumper.
> >
>
> What is a clip jumper?
>
> Doug.
Doug,
On the back of a typical IDE drive, between the power and data
connectors, there is a double-row configuration header; it looks just
like the data connector, except it typically has only four sets of
pins.
One or more shorting jumpers are plugged onto the pins in order to
configure the drive as master, slave, or cable-select. And one pair
of jumpers provides a 32Gbyte clip, so that the BIOS thinks that the
drive is smaller than it really is. The jumper doesn't change the
physical characteristics of the drive; it simply deceives the BIOS.
Somewhere on the label of the drive, the manufacturer should have
provided a diagram or a table showing which pins to jumper for the
various configuration options. If not, then you need to check the web
site of the manufacturer for a diagram or table.
When installed, a jumper "shorts" or "bridges" a pair of pins. The
jumper has a plastic body and a gold-plated brass insert; it is about
6 mm long, 2.5 mm wide, and 5 mm high.
A new drive typically ships with at least two jumpers. Sometimes an
extra pair of dummy pins provides a place to "park" a spare jumper.
The same type of jumper is used on the back of CD-ROM drives. So if
you need a jumper and there is not a spare jumper on the drive, look
around for an old disk drive or an old CD-ROM drive.
RLH
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:35:04 -0400
From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: cdrecord vs. wodim again
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Andrew Sackville-West(andrew@farwestbilliards.com) is reported to have said:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 03:46:51PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > steef(steefvanduin@zonnet.nl) is reported to have said:
> > >
> > > hi all and *especially j=F6rg s., long-term initiator of cdrecord and=
=20
> > > cdrtools*.
> > >
> > > two weeks ago i asked on this list 'what is better': cdrecord or wodi=
m. on=20
> > > one of the responses i answered that the most recent version of=20
> > > cdrecord/cdr-tools completely damaged two brandnew cdrom's. j=F6rg as=
ked me=20
> > > for more info: and here comes some.
> > >
> > > 1. only one cd/dvd-burner om my machine produced this undesirable eff=
ect. a=20
> > > couple of other burners worked flawlessly with the most recent b=EAta=
of j=F6rg=20
> > > sch.
> > > so it could be that j=F6rg did not make this beta recognize this burn=
er: see=20
> > > /dev/hdb (from dmesg |less):=20
> > > hda: MAXTOR STM3250820A, ATA DISK drive
### > > > hdb: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
> > > ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> > > Probing IDE interface ide1...
> > > hdc: ST3120026A, ATA DISK drive
> >=20> > Right! Neither cdrecord or wodim can burn to a _Hard Disk_.
>=20
> where do you get this? He provided no info on what command he used and> if you look, hdb is clearly an optical drive... are you drinking too
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ But I didn't see that!
> much coffee? ;)
I wish. The line ### commented was not on my radar. I saw the
line above my comment and thought "Why is he trying to burn a cd on an
ATA Disk Dirve".
My bad. With the mail being so light today, I was working on a couple
of laptops and just missed the hdb line. =20
Easily confused ... need ...MORE COFFEE.....
WT
--=20
Please trim quotes to minimum for context, then
reply below or interleave point-by-point replies.
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:35:13 -0400
From: Matthew K Poer <matthewpoer@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: SuperTux displays blank screen on launch
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On Tuesday 02 October 2007 2:18 pm, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> Hi thanks for the reply.
>
> I tried --sdl option and --opengl but still to no avail. I tried googling> and it looks like some others have experienced the problem but I can't se=
em
> to find a concrete solution to it.
>
> --> Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu>
That sounds pretty odd. Can you try another linux game that uses SDL?=20
Armagetron, netpanzer and penguin-command all use libsdl-*.=20
Try starting one or the other from a xterm, and let us know anything and=20
everything that it spits out at you.
=2D-=20
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Location: GA, USA Web:
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Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:12:01 +0900
From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: bash expansion crap...
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You could also use the "seq" program instead (which comes with
coreutils):
for i in `seq 1 $TEST`; do ...
I'm not sure if that's more or less portable than using all these
various bash features...
-Miles
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:43:15 -0000
From: blues <bluesbravo@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Trouble with downloaded images...
Message-ID: <1191346995.076557.189620@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I just dl'ed the latest release from www.debian.org. The first CD
(debian-40r1-i386-CD-1) seems to be corrupted...so I used the torrent
link and tried to download the CD again, and still cannot get a clean
install....Any suggestions??
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:57:05 -0700
From: Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Trouble with downloaded images...
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:43:15 -0000
blues <bluesbravo@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just dl'ed the latest release from www.debian.org. The first CD
> (debian-40r1-i386-CD-1) seems to be corrupted...so I used the torrent
> link and tried to download the CD again, and still cannot get a clean
> install....Any suggestions??
>
>
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Sorry to hear that you are having trouble with this. Have you tried checking the md5sum of the downloaded images to see if it matches the md5sum given on the download site?
--
Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu>
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:09:34 -0700
From: Scarletdown <scarletdown@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Problem Resolved - Was Re: Dependency Error == Unable to Install
Anything Else
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On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 17:20 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:52:36PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 23:36 +0200, David Paleino wrote:
> > > dpkg --force-overwrite
> > > -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libpth20_2.0.7-8_i386.deb
> >
> > That worked. I was at least able to update the kernel. Now there's a
> > problem installing the latest nVidia video drivers.
> >
> > The kernel was compiled with GCC 4.1 apparently, and the drivers require
> > 4.2, which I have installed. However, the installation fails due to the
> > kernel having been compiled with 4.1.
>
> are you running a mixed system? it sounds like you are and you likely
> need to address a number of issue that just haven't shown up yet.
She's just running pure Sid. Anyway, the problem has been resolved.
And for future reference for others who may encounter the same problem
but come up with search results showing only the problem, but no
solution; all I had to do was simply install the kernel headers.
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:02:43 -0500
From: Jim Hall <volunteer@revealed.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Gnome delete user
Message-ID: <4702EA33.3010204@revealed.net>
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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:26:27PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote:
>
>
>>***** After I've done the above, I can change the conf file (incl.
>>below). Am I correct in assumeing that changing any "=0" to "=1"
>>activates that option?
>
>
> man deluser.conf
>
> Actually, having looked at it, if you want it will remove every file
> owned by the user. I would consider that dangerous. You may want to
> run a find instead.
>
> Doug.
>
>
I did look at the man page. It says the choices are '0' or '1'. I can
infer that if things are disabled now, that's '0'. To enable is '1'. I
just wanted verification because inference can be dangerous. Your
comment seems to provide that verification.
I like your idea of using find.
Jim
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:06:14 -0500
From: Jim Hall <volunteer@revealed.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Gnome delete user
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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:26:27PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote:
>
>>Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>
>
> ...
>
>
>>You could set his box up to allow you to ssh into it, or dial in if he
>>has a modem.
>>
>>***** I could, but I don't really want to be THAT available!
>
>
> don't tell him. just make things magically work when you're on the
> phone... ;)
>
> A
Now, that would be funny. As long as I can maintain a straight face. :-)
Jim
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:31:00 -0400
From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs
Message-Id: <20071002213100.2e1f3a20.celejar@gmail.com>
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:26:14 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:18:13PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:13:12 -0700
> > Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:45:58PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oddly enough, when I try to download PDFs from the institution's site,
> > > > the plugin doesn't pick them up, although IW recognizes them as "PDF
> > > > documents", and "about:plugins" shows Acrobat as being installed. [IW
> > > > only offers to open the PDFs with the default app (Evince) or to save
> > > > them to disk].
> > > >
> > > > pdfinfo gives:
> > > >
> > > > > Producer: iText by lowagie.com (r1.02b;p128)
> > > > > CreationDate: Tue Oct 2 11:39:33 2007
> > > > > ModDate: Tue Oct 2 11:39:33 2007
> > > > > Tagged: no
> > > > > Pages: 4
> > > > > Encrypted: no
> > >
> > > they're not encrypted, so can you open them with evince/xpdf? I'm not
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > > sure what the problem is, I thought you were just trying to cross the
> > > hurdle of getting them to allow d/l. Or do you need to confirm the
> > > signatures?
> >
> > The main hurdle was indeed getting it to just give me the PDFs, but if
> > they are indeed signed, I'd certainly like to be able to verify
> > the signatures, and I'm also just curious now as to why the plugin isn't
> > being called for these PDFs as it is for others.
>
> with the binary in another location, maybe the plugin is failing and
> control passes on to another mechanism within iceweasel. Try running
> iceweasel from the command line (or check ~/.xsession-errors) to see
> if anything pertinent shows up. also, I don't know how iceweasel
> handles these things, but if there is a mime entry for .pdf that
> points to evince, maybe those get called before the plugins? heck,
> maybe the pluginb just doesn't work, too...
The plugin is working; when I access a PDF at another site, the Acrobat
EULA comes up (and I decline). The other site's url ends in '.pdf',
while my FI's has some parameters after the filename; I don't know
whether that could have anything to do with it.
> A
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:33:00 -0400
From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs
Message-Id: <20071002213300.d2641f57.celejar@gmail.com>
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:17:30 -0500
John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org> wrote:
> Celejar writes:
> > I installed the linux tarball (as a non-priveleged user, and to a
> > non-standard location under $HOME, to minimize pollution), and dropped
> > the plugin (nppdf.so) into $HOME/.mozilla/plugins (I'm using IW), which
> > was enough for the website to accept my system as having Acrobat
> > installed.
>
> So the first thing that is needed for outfits like you bank is a plugin
> that causes Firefox/Iceweasel to lie and say that Acroread is available.
>
> > I haven't yet tried to open a downloaded PDF in Acrobat since I'm
> > reluctant to agree to the EULA.
>
> What happens when you open them with Evice or Xpdf? Should work.
It does indeed; I am just interested in a way to check the signature,
although I'm not actually sure that the statement I downloaded is
signed.
> John Hasler
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:35:41 -0400
From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs
Message-Id: <20071002213541.5ae09f56.celejar@gmail.com>
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:36:58 +0530
Raj Kiran Grandhi <grajkiran@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I wrote:
> >> How are they doing this detection [of Acroread]?
> >
> > Celejar writes:
> >> I don't know.
>
> I suspect they rely on internet explorer being the browser, install some
> sort of activex control and retrieve whatever information they can about
> the users' computer. (This can potentially include sensitive information)
>
> If it is not a requirement for you to deal with this particular
> financial institution, I recommend switching to someone else having
> better standards support (and inform the original institution about it
> and your reasons for the change).
>
> Otherwise, try the version of adobe reader that is available for linux,
> though I guess they won't be able to detect that it is installed if you
> access their site using linux. If this check for 'reader' is a one time
> process, you can probably try connecting to their site from a trusted
> windows machine with adobe reader installed, get through with the
> verification step and then continue your transactions from your normal
> machine.
The detection was apparently through the browser, as per my other posts
in this thread. Installing the linux Reader made them happy.
> HTH,
> rajkiran
Thanks,
Celejar
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:03:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: jacek2 <powerwebbutton@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: wake-on-lan
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Roel Schroeven wrote:
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> From the man page, it indeed looks like that should help. Unfortunately
> it doesn't seem to work. I'll investigate further tomorrow.
>
>
I do power ON/OFF my PC using this card and remote browser or cell phone if
you will:
https://ool-43537bf6.dyn.optonline.net/Power%20Web%20Button.htm
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:37:07 -0400
From: Bob C <bjc506@gmail.com>
To: graham@theseamans.net
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: cups yet again
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I have had what seems to be the same printer problem you describe, ever
since I installed Debian Etch in February 2007 on my new computer with
an amd64 type processor. My printer is an HP Deskpro 500, and the
computer has a Asus p5b mainboard with Intel E6300 processor.
>From time to time I have looked into this problem and finally today
solved it after reading this report of Bug #38805 in Debian.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+bug/38805
I checked my bios setup and under Parellel Port Mode found four choices.
Normal, Bi-directional, EPP and ECP. I had the problem with it set at
ECP but when I choose Normal, the printer works.
Hope this fixes your problem as well,
Bob C
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:01:00 -0400
From: Bob C <bjc506@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Printer setup problem in Etch
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On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 08:31:16PM -0400, Bob C wrote:
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> I am having a difficult time getting my printer to work on Etch with
> CUPS 1.2.7. When I print a page from Openoffice the printer responds,
> but prints a line of meaningless symbols.
>
I had hoped that doing regular updates on my system, which is now Lenny,
would eventually solve the problem, but it still would not print until
today.
I finally found how to fix the problem after reading this report of Bug
#38805 in Debian. They found the parallel port settings in the bios were
involved in the problem.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+bug/38805
I checked my bios setup and under Parellel Port Mode found four choices.
Normal, Bi-directional, EPP and ECP. I experienced the printer problem
with the bios set to ECP.
When I choose Normal, the printer now works.
Bob C
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:00:29 -0500
From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9sar_Augusto_Garc=EDa_Garc=EDa?=" <calgarcia1311@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Pertenecer a la empresa
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Solicito detalles para pertenecer a la empresa...C=E9sar
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