debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2554

  Re: Cannot run iceweasel on remote h  [ Raj Kiran Grandhi  ]
  VNC install--possible dependency err  [ Carl Fink  ]
  Re: Any way to dist-downgrade?        [ Michael Yang  ]
  Re: Random System Crashes             [ Michael Pobega  ]
  Re: trying to record sound with 'are  [ tom arnall  ]
  Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for o  [ Amit Uttamchandani  ]
  Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for o  [ Amit Uttamchandani  ]
  Re: How to access RS-232 console fro  [ Rob Sims  ]

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>> Hi,
>>
>> I am facing a weird problem when trying to run iceweasel on a remote 
>> host through an ssh session. I have logged into the remote host using 
>> "ssh -Y " and at the prompt of the remote host, I ran
>> iceweasel. However it appears that a local instance of iceweasel is
>> started. There is no iceweasel/firefox process at all on the remote
>> host. The only way I could get iceweasel to run on the remote host is
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>> by closing all instances of iceweasel already running on the
>> localhost.
>>
>> Is something wrong? 

>> If not, how do I run separate instances of
>> iceweasel concurrently?

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 > > the raid5 until after usb drives are seen?
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Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 22:37:19 -0400
From: Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: VNC install--possible dependency error?

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NewPicking:/home/carlf# apt-get install vnc4server xvnc4viewer vnc-java xtightvncviewer Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:   vnc4-common
Suggested packages:
  vncserver tightvncserver

I'm installing vnc4server explicitly. Why is Debian recommending that I install two other VNC servers as well?

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Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:03:33 +0800 From: Michael Yang <michael.yxf@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any way to dist-downgrade? Message-ID: <47045805.9060306@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:04:05PM +0800, Michael Yang wrote:
>
>> Hi All: >> >> Due to one hang issues of apitude, I upgraded my linux-images, but didn't >> resolve the issues. >> Then I did "apt-get dist-upgrade", after which the aptitude issue is >> resolved, also after which more packages are upgraded that I didn't mean >> to. Now I want to keep only the kernel updated, but to downgrade the other >> packages to the previous one. >> >
> downgrading is not supported.
>
>
>> Now the source.list consists of the mirrors of "sid" dist, if I change it >> back to "testing", would there be any problems for the system? >> >
> if you change sources.list back to testing, then what will happen is
> you will stay with the versions you already have installed until
> testing catches up with them. Once newer versions of your current
> packages hit testing then it will start to upgrade again.
>
> It is possible to downgrade, but tricky and in all reality, its
> probably easier to reinstall. I don't know what changes have come
> into sid but not into testing yet. If they are major packages (libc,
> xorg, etc) then its definitely *not* trivial to downgrade.
>
> A
>
Thanks for your info. There were xorg packages updated during the upgrade. The first time I upgrade only the linux-image, the X can not be started up due to my NV display driver issue, so that I used dist-upgrade. Although the aptitude issue and the display drivers are resolved and working fine, I found the system is behaving a little slower than before. It's quite obvious to see that the output is returned slowly when I execute the "df -h" to check the disk info. That's why I'm thinking about the downgrading.... Per your suggestions, I think I need to keep it as updated and change the source list to testing, waiting to see if there is any improvment in future! Thanks a lot! Michael

Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 00:06:33 -0400 From: Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Random System Crashes Message-ID: <20071004040633.GA15281@digital-haze.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 02:13:49AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> odds are your power supply is on its way to the power supply cemetery.
> > I doubt that, because this laptop is only one year old. I'm kind of hoping that the power supply doesn't have to be replaced... >
> On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> >> On 10/2/07, Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com> wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Lately (For the past month or so) I've been experiencing random system >>> crashes. My system would just completely lock up and not respond to >>> anything but a power-down (I've tried switching to TTY1, among other >>> things, but nothing works). >>> >>> I don't even know where to start diagnosing this problem...I'm looking >>> for help on where to start. ANY help would be appreciated. >>> >>> If you need any more information just ask, besides the fact that I'm >>> running Debian Lenny with a teeny bit of Sid (amd64 as well). >> >> It may be this xorg freezing problem that some people have been >> having. Can do a remote login? If so does everything seem to work >> alright in the new session? >> >> There was some discussion related to this on the list[1] a while back >> and today on a blog on planet Ubuntu[2]. However, AFAIK no one has >> come up with anything. >> >> Sorry I can't be of more help. >> >> [1]http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/09/msg01265.html >> [2]http://admiralchicago.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/head-desk/ >> >> >> Cheers, >> Kelly >> >> - -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHBGbJg6qL2BGnx4QRAqzUAJ9pV+0DCYLEnNOPQ+bIX3XJCwj59gCeIvpQ EOZi3J5xIO8cMrBaYXs+CZs= =/cdq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 00:08:54 -0400 From: Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Random System Crashes Message-ID: <20071004040854.GB15281@digital-haze.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 10:33:27PM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On 10/2/07, Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Lately (For the past month or so) I've been experiencing random system
> > crashes. My system would just completely lock up and not respond to
> > anything but a power-down (I've tried switching to TTY1, among other
> > things, but nothing works).
> >
> > I don't even know where to start diagnosing this problem...I'm looking
> > for help on where to start. ANY help would be appreciated.
> >
> > If you need any more information just ask, besides the fact that I'm
> > running Debian Lenny with a teeny bit of Sid (amd64 as well).
>
> It may be this xorg freezing problem that some people have been
> having. Can do a remote login? If so does everything seem to work
> alright in the new session?
>
> There was some discussion related to this on the list[1] a while back
> and today on a blog on planet Ubuntu[2]. However, AFAIK no one has
> come up with anything.
>
> Sorry I can't be of more help.
>
> [1]http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/09/msg01265.html
> [2]http://admiralchicago.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/head-desk/
>
>
> Cheers,
> Kelly
>
>
It's definitely not that problem. When my system crashes EVERYTHING locks up, including the cursor blinking. The system is COMPLETELY unresponsive and at a standstill. I'll try accessing my webserver from another computer next time it happens though...That's a very good idea. - -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHBGdWg6qL2BGnx4QRAtO4AKC0T7mg79TuBAYSBWwFZdvFBlCqmwCfToiW 2CPwaXPOOc2Ppxb0NPZIW3g= =34XC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 21:04:44 -0700 From: tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: trying to record sound with 'arecord' A SOLUTION Message-Id: <200710032104.44505.kloro2006@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 03 October 2007 16:49, David Fox wrote:
> On 10/3/07, tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com> wrote:
> > yes to both. i used alsa mixer to set the mic level. i'm using a headset
> > and when i do input to the mic i can hear it in the headphones.
>
> having never tried arecord I tried it out - on lenny there seems to be
> a problem in that it can't open the device. I haven't had a microphone
> hooked up to this system (I have a SBLive card) in quite sometime -
> since before the move in May, and this used to work.
>
> I was about to suggest audacity, but that didn't work either - still
> tells me that it cant open the sound device.
>
> Of course, the thing has played sound with no problems - it's just
> that I haven't had a need to use the microphone, but figured I might
> as well give it a try.
>
> What do you get using rec?
>
> > tom arnall
check out: http://www.flaterco.com/kb/audio.html under 'RECORD'. worked for me. also make sure you've set up alsa. i have to do: sudo /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/snddevices hope it works for you.

Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 21:03:51 -0700 From: Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers Message-Id: <20071003210351.66a3f2f1.atu13439@csun.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Hi,
>
> It looks weird - CRC errors? Is the DVD scratched badly? I'm afraid I
> cannot help you; maybe you should try asking on some mplayer forums/groups?
>
> BTW, have you tried the kaffeine already? It worked better than mplayer
> with DVDs for me.
>
> Kind regards,
> Michal R. Hoffmann
Yeah the CRC errors looked weird. The DVD isn't scratched badly. And it also plays fine on a regular dvd player. So yeah I'm not sure what could be the issue. I was going to try out kaffeine and checked out its dependencies...it uses xine as the backend so I tried installing xine and using that to play dvds. No luck...still didn't work. Also I checked out /var/log/messages and these lines seem to be suspect: Oct 3 21:01:29 debian kernel: ATAPI device hdc: Oct 3 21:01:29 debian kernel: Error: Illegal request -- (Sense key=0x05) Oct 3 21:01:29 debian kernel: "28 00 00 02 6c b0 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 " Oct 3 21:01:29 debian kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 635584 Oct 3 21:01:29 debian kernel: hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Oct 3 21:01:29 debian kernel: hdc: command error: error=0x54 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x05 } Oct 3 21:01:29 debian kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown -- Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu>

Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 21:11:22 -0700 From: tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: trying to record sound with 'arecord' A SOLUTION - POSTSCRIPT Message-Id: <200710032111.23234.kloro2006@gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wednesday 03 October 2007 16:49, David Fox wrote:
> On 10/3/07, tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com> wrote:
> > yes to both. i used alsa mixer to set the mic level. i'm using a headset
> > and when i do input to the mic i can hear it in the headphones.
>
> having never tried arecord I tried it out - on lenny there seems to be
> a problem in that it can't open the device. I haven't had a microphone
> hooked up to this system (I have a SBLive card) in quite sometime -
> since before the move in May, and this used to work.
>
> I was about to suggest audacity, but that didn't work either - still
> tells me that it cant open the sound device.
>
> Of course, the thing has played sound with no problems - it's just
> that I haven't had a need to use the microphone, but figured I might
> as well give it a try.
>
> What do you get using rec?
>
> > tom arnall
check out: http://www.flaterco.com/kb/audio.html under 'RECORD'. worked for me. also make sure you've set up alsa. i have to do: sudo /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/snddevices hope it works for you. =================================================================== ACTUALLY I ENABLED 'MIC', NOT 'AUX' IN THE ALSAMIXER CAPTURE SETUP. 'AUX' DIDN'T WORK FOR ME.

Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 21:19:06 -0700 From: Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers Message-Id: <20071003211906.6ca86097.atu13439@csun.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> What happens if you run cdck to check the quality of the DVD?
I installed cdck from the deb repo and ran it. A lot of errors. There are a lot: ! unable to read sector 195007, reason: Input/output error ! unable to read sector 195008, reason: Input/output error ! unable to read sector 195009, reason: Input/output error ! unable to read sector 195010, reason: Input/output error ! unable to read sector 195203, reason: Input/output error ! unable to read sector 195204, reason: Input/output error ! unable to read sector 195205, reason: Input/output error
> Can you turn the DVD into an iso or something file and play from hard
> disk?
How do I do this? mkisofs? Or can I use mencode or dvdbackup? What do you recommend? THanks.
> Doug.
>
>
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-- Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu>

Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 21:29:40 -0700 From: Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: How to access RS-232 console from terminal? Message-Id: <20071003212940.0d249c8b.atu13439@csun.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey guys, I know this may seem so obvious but I have no experience with this at all. Basically I want to access the console interface of a network interface device using RS-232. I am pretty sure linux/unix has built in support for this but how does it work? Do I just plug it in? Where do I set the baud rate? And I usually need to transfer files via the 1K Xmodem protocol. Do I need an external software for this? At work we use windows terminals to access these devices (using built in HyperTerminal program or PuTTY). But I would like to recommend the use of debian etch. Thanks! -- Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu>

Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:39:30 +1300 From: Simon <greminn@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Sarge php4-cli no mysql support? Message-ID: <5bdb1aa70710032139g114468bfy8621c3c69d4741e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi There, We have a sarge box that we have just installed php4-cli on, but there seems to be no mysql support? Can anyone confirm this? I have php4-mysql installed. What can i do here? Here is the Configure Command from phpinfo() with the command line client. Configure Command => '../configure' '--prefix=/usr' '--disable-cgi' '--with-config-file-path=/etc/php4/cli' '--enable-memory-limit' '--disable-debug' '--with-regex=php' '--disable-rpath' '--disable-static' '--with-pic' '--with-layout=GNU' '--with-pear=/usr/share/php' '--enable-calendar' '--enable-sysvsem' '--enable-sysvshm' '--enable-sysvmsg' '--enable-track-vars' '--enable-trans-sid' '--enable-bcmath' '--with-bz2' '--enable-ctype' '--with-db4' '--with-iconv' '--enable-exif' '--enable-filepro' '--enable-ftp' '--with-gettext' '--enable-mbstring' '--with-pcre-regex=/usr' '--enable-shmop' '--enable-sockets' '--enable-wddx' '--disable-xml' '--with-expat-dir=/usr' '--with-xmlrpc' '--enable-yp' '--with-zlib' '--without-pgsql' '--with-kerberos=/usr' '--with-openssl=/usr' '--with-zip=/usr' '--enable-dbx' '--with-mime-magic=/usr/share/misc/file/magic.mime' '--with-exec-dir=/usr/lib/php4/libexec' '--without-mm' '--without-mysql' '--without-sybase-ct' '--enable-pcntl' '--with-ncurses=/usr'

Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 22:58:38 -0600 From: Rob Sims <deb-lists-z@robsims.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How to access RS-232 console from terminal? Message-ID: <20071004045838.GA14210@robsims.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v" Content-Disposition: inline --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 09:29:40PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> I know this may seem so obvious but I have no experience with this at
> all. Basically I want to access the console interface of a network
> interface device using RS-232.
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Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:44:47 -0700 From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: VNC install--possible dependency error? Message-id: <20071004044447.GA23150@alpaca> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 10:37:19PM -0400, Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> was heard to say:
> Here's a transcript:
>
> NewPicking:/home/carlf# apt-get install vnc4server xvnc4viewer vnc-java xtightvncviewer
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
> vnc4-common
> Suggested packages:
> vncserver tightvncserver
>
> I'm installing vnc4server explicitly. Why is Debian recommending that I
> install two other VNC servers as well?
xtightvncviewer suggests tightvncserver, and vnc-java suggests vncserver. Daniel

Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 00:11:57 -0400 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: P-II ASUS box won't boot another drive Message-ID: <20071004041157.GA9840@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 12:34:51AM -0400, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:38:38PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > I have running here a PII with Asus P2B-F motherboard and a 40Gbyte
> > IDE drive. The manual for the P2B-F is rather poor, and fails to
> > provide a number of vital details.
> >
> > I have been running a dual-boot Debian/W2000 scheme, with Debian
> > "testing" on one drive and W2000 on the other, and using GRUB as the
> > boot loader. With a 366 MHz process, performance with W2000 and with
> > the Gnome desktop is acceptable, but sometimes a bit frustrating.
>
> I suggest running a lightweight window manager to avoid frustration.
I've always had great performance with icewm. Doug. End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2554 ************************************************** Received on Thu Oct 4 01:15:30 2007