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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2559

Today's Topics: 

  Re: How to access RS-232 console fro  [ Bob McGowan  ]
  Problem with Lenny / Intel 82801G (I  [ Peter Gruener  ]
  Re: How to access RS-232 console fro  [ Amit Uttamchandani  ]
  Re: Debian packages without md5sums   [ Carl Johnson  ]
  Re: Motherboard Recommendation        [ MRH  ]
  Re: resize the partition with /       [ "Manu Hack"  ]
  uswsusp                               [ fuman@mail.bg ]
  Re: Problem with Lenny / Intel 82801  [ Florian Kulzer  ]
  Re: How to access RS-232 console fro  [ Ken Irving  ]
  Re: Debian packages without md5sums   [ Felix Karpfen 

Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:30:21 -0700


From: Bob McGowan <bob_mcgowan@symantec.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: How to access RS-232 console from terminal?
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Amit Uttamchandani wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> I know this may seem so obvious but I have no experience with this at all. Basically I want to access the console interface of a network interface device using RS-232.
> 
> I am pretty sure linux/unix has built in support for this but how does it work?
> 
> Do I just plug it in?
> 
> Where do I set the baud rate?
> 
> And I usually need to transfer files via the 1K Xmodem protocol. Do I need an external software for this?
> 
> At work we use windows terminals to access these devices (using built in HyperTerminal program or PuTTY). But I would like to recommend the use of debian etch.
> 
> Thanks!
> 

You may also find a UNIX/Linux port of Putty, if you want to use a 
"familiar" interface, as the Debian package 'putty' ( what else? ;)


Do you need help?X

However, you will still need something like minicom to make the actual 
connection through the serial line, as others have mentioned.


-- 
Bob McGowan

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Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:20:22 -0400
From: Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Anoying Fetchmail Behavior
Message-ID: <20071004172022.GF7980@horacrux>
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On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 09:23:16AM -0400, Orestes Leal wrote:

> Hi Folks, I have a serious problem with fetchmail, I get every day
> this message
> 
> fetchmail: skipping message adrian13024@192.168.54.3:1 not flushed
> fetchmail: skipping message adrian13024@192.168.54.3:2 not flushed
> fetchmail: skipping message adrian13024@192.168.54.3:3 not flushed
> fetchmail: skipping message adrian13024@192.168.54.3:4 not flushed
> fetchmail: skipping message adrian13024@192.168.54.3:5 not flushed
> fetchmail: skipping message adrian13024@192.168.54.3:6 not flushed
> fetchmail: skipping message adrian13024@192.168.54.3:7 not flushed
> fetchmail: skipping message adrian13024@192.168.54.3:8 not flushed
> 
> And in this case the fetchmail daemon doesn't download
> this mails but others, for one of my users, and sometimes fetchmail gets
> stuck without explanation, my .fetchmailrc it's the following,
> 
> ====================================================================

I have seen this on the occassion that I accessed my mail from a webmail
account and then tried to use fetchmail. The 'status' of the mail was
altered when I used the webmail and this caused fetchmail to skip those
mails. I'd less the frequency of you email fetch. The solution for me
was to call 'fetchmail -a', and that fixed it for the moment until I
used the webmail before fetchmail.
-K
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:29:55 +0200
From: Peter Gruener <peter.gruener@gmx.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Problem with Lenny / Intel 82801G (ICH7) and line-in
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Hi!

After installation of Debian/Lenny I have problems with the 
microphone/line-in jack of my Dell Latitude D820 using ALSA. It does not 
work. (In Windows XP it works without problems)

The configuration is the following:

Debian Lenny on 2.6.21-2-686 with DELL Latitude D820,

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High 
Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)


alsa-base:
   Installed: 1.0.14-2
   Candidate: 1.0.14-2
   Version table:
  *** 1.0.14-2 0
         500 http://http.us.debian.org lenny/main Packages


alsa-utils:
   Installed: 1.0.14-2
   Candidate: 1.0.14-2
   Version table:
  *** 1.0.14-2 0
         500 http://http.us.debian.org lenny/main Packages



alsaconf tells me "Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel 
snd-hda-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc."

hda-intel Intel Corpation 82801G (ICH7 Fa....

The hardware seems to be detected. Sound is there but recording does not 
work.

Any suggestions?

Kind regards,
Peter



Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:34:13 -0400
From: Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Converting sxw files to ps or pdfs
Message-ID: <20071004173413.GA27247@nitpicking.com>
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On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 09:30:24AM -0700, Bill wrote:

> On Thu, 2007-04-10 at 07:34 -0400, Carl Fink wrote:

> > These instructions:
> > 
> > http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2006/01/11/from-microsoft-to-openoffice.html
> > 
> > show how to script the conversion using OOo macros and its command line
> > interface.
>  
> Well, I don't have a windows box, I don't know basic, and I'm 
> not converting doc files..... other than that there might be 
> something in here I can adapt. Thanks.


There is actually a sample script in there for PDF conversions.
-- 
Carl Fink                                   nitpicking@nitpicking.com 

Read my blog at nitpickingblog.blogspot.com.  Reviews!  Observations!
Stupid mistakes you can correct!



Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:37:43 -0700
From: Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to access RS-232 console from terminal?
Message-Id: <20071004103743.a59d3244.atu13439@csun.edu>
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> 
> You may also find a UNIX/Linux port of Putty, if you want to use a 
> "familiar" interface, as the Debian package 'putty' ( what else? ;)
> 
> However, you will still need something like minicom to make the actual 
> connection through the serial line, as others have mentioned.
> 


Thanks for the reply. Yeah I checked out minicom. It seems like it is the way to go. As for putty, it is quite nice but I was looking for something really powerful with debugging and file sending capabilities. It seems like minicom is the only option there.


-- 
Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu>



Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:58:13 +0100
From: Hugh <hugh@mjr.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Conducting an install via ssh
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Hello,
I have been given an ibook with dead graphics, I can install OSX on  
it with firewire (to test it works), but wish to install debian.
As the graphics are dead, I cant do a normal install. As it doesn't  
have a serial port, I cant control the install that way, so I wanted  
to use debian-installer's network-console.

My aim is to create a bootable install cd that will automatically  
(without requiring any keypresses) start debian installer and it's  
sshd/network console, then wait for me to connect to the machine via  
ssh to continue the install.

As I understand it the steps are:

1. Get daily-ppc-netinst-iso, mount, copy contents to working dir [ok]
2. Modify  yaboot.conf to select a kernel automatically [ok]
3. Write preseed.conf
4. Put preseed.conf in initrd root [ok]
5. Burn new bootable iso.

The problems are with steps 3 and 5.

3.
I haven't been able to find information about starting network  
console with preseed.cfg, but have created this attempt from the  
examples that are available.

---------------preseed.cfg:

#### Contents of the preconfiguration file
### Localization
# Locale sets language and country.
d-i debian-installer/locale string en_GB

# Keyboard selection.
d-i console-keymaps-at/keymap select us

### Network configuration
# netcfg will choose an interface that has link if possible. This  
makes it
# skip displaying a list if there is more than one interface.
d-i netcfg/choose_interface select auto

# Any hostname and domain names assigned from dhcp take precedence over
# values set here. However, setting the values still prevents the  
questions
# from being shown, even if values come from dhcp.
d-i netcfg/get_hostname string newdebian
d-i netcfg/get_domain string local

# Disable that annoying WEP key dialog.
d-i netcfg/wireless_wep string
# The wacky dhcp hostname that some ISPs use as a password of sorts.
#d-i netcfg/dhcp_hostname string radish

d-i preseed/early_command string anna-install network-console

# Setup ssh password
d-i network-console/password password install
d-i network-console/password-again password install

--------------
Is there anything else I need to add to start a network console?
I haven't tried this yet due to problems with step 5.

5.
http://people.debian.org/~osamu/hackdi/ch-d-i.html Mentions that for  
isolinux, a bootable iso can be made with a command like:

	mkisofs -o new.iso -r \
                -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat \
                -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 \
                -boot-info-table /mnt/image

I presume "yaboot" is the replacement for yaboot.bin, does anyone  
know what the replacement for boot.cat is? - I cant find boot.cat in  
the ppc iso.


Thanks for taking the time to read this and for any assistance.

Hugh



Date: 04 Oct 2007 09:59:35 -0700
From: Carl Johnson <carlj@peak.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian packages without md5sums
Message-ID: <87przueryg.fsf@cjlinux.localnet>
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Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> writes:


> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 09:02:41PM -0700, Carl Johnson <carlj@peak.org> was heard to say:
> > Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> writes:
> > >   dpkg performs no key checking, at least on packages in the Debian
> > > archive.  There was some experimental code to stick embedded signatures
> > > into .deb files, but I don't know what it's status is and packages
> > > containing signatures aren't allowed in the archive last I heard.
> > 
> > Is there some way to get the system to re-read the release file?  I
> > installed the key after I upgradeed the system to etch, so all
> > packages on my DVDs show as being unverified.  I have tried to get it
> > to clear that, but nothing I have tried has worked.  I also noticed
> > recently that some packages show multiple entries in aptitude, so
> > possibly clearing the entries would clear that.
> 
>   I believe that just updating your package lists should do the trick.


That didn't seem to change anything.  I even commented out all lines
in the sources.list file before first doing an update.  That showed no
uninstalled files available, so I then did another apt-cdrom and
update.  That showed the available files, but I still got the
untrusted source warning.  I do have the debian-archive-keyring that
apt depends on.

I just noticed that I still have multiple entries in aptitude for some
of the installed files listed under 'Packages which depend on apt'.
For example apt shows 'debtags 1.6.6' twice.
-- 
Carl Johnson		carlj@peak.org



Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:35:59 +0100
From: MRH <misiek_spam@o2.pl>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Motherboard Recommendation
Message-ID: <4705328F.9050204@o2.pl>
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Dnia 04/10/07 05:35,Chris Bannister napisa=C5=82:

> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:46:47PM -0400, Eric Estes wrote:

>> Can anyone recommend a good AMD (socket A2 - Athlon 64 X2) motherboard=
 that has good Linux support? I'm sending back my Shuttle to newegg and n=
eed a replacement asap.
>>
>=20

> Hi Eric,

>=20

> I am disappointed no one has replied to this as it looks I too will hav=

e

I agree it's disappointing. There was an answer from Douglas about 12=20
hours before your post and I answered a couple hours before your post=20
but you haven't received these :(

Kind regards,
Michal R. Hoffmann


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Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:38:14 -0400
From: "Manu Hack" <manuhack@gmail.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: resize the partition with /
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On 10/1/07, Raj Kiran Grandhi <grajkiran@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> > So I'd like to resize hda2 but I can't as it said I need to unmount
> > hda2 before resizing.  People suggest using a live CD but it's not
> > possible with my old laptop (I didn't even install etch using CD, I
> > can only install etch via goodbyemicrosoft.com).  USB boot is also not
> > available.
> >

>

> If a couple of reboots is ok for you, the following method might work.


Yes, and thanks a lot for the instruction.

>

> You can use 'dd' to clone hda2 to hda1. Boot your system with
> "init=/bin/bash". When you get to the bash prompt, do

>

> bash# dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hda1

>

> When that completes, you would have your installation available on both
> the partitions. The 5GB hda1 would contain a filesystem that is only 1GB
> large. Restart your system. You would boot normally with a 1GB root.

>

> Edit "/boot/grub/menu.lst" and add an entry for the linux on hda1.
> set root to (hd0,0) and append root=/dev/hda1 for the kernel line of the
> new entry.

>

> mkdir /tmp/newroot; mount /dev/hda1 /tmp/newroot

>

> Edit the file /tmp/newroot/boot/grub/menu.lst and replace (hd0,1) with
> (hda0,0) and root=/dev/hda2 with root=/dev/hda1. Similarly fix the root
> filesystem entry in /tmp/newroot/etc/fstab by changing /dev/hda2 to
> /dev/hda1.

>

> Now you should be able to boot into either of your two partitions.


So I got two grub/menu.lst, but how grub knows which one to read (one
is hda1 and one is hda2)?

>

> Once you have satisfied yourself that both are working, boot into your
> 1GB partition, and resize hda1. The command "resize2fs /dev/hda1" should
> be sufficient.

>

> Restart into the 5GB parition and now you would have a 5GB root with
> over 4GB free space.

>

> Run "grub-install /dev/hda" so that grub can load itself from the new
> location.

>

> You can now copy over your home directory from the 1GB partition and
> continue using hda1. If you wish you format hda2 and mount it as /home.

>

> Feel free to post any problems you may have and make sure you take a
> backup of important files before proceeding.

>

Finally I followed your instruction and now I got what I wanted.
Really thanks a lot and hopefully this can help others too.  (not to
mention I learned a lot!) :)

Manu



Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:24:45 +0300
From: fuman@mail.bg
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: uswsusp
Message-ID: <1191522285.b80cf6d85b80e@mail.bg>
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 In the disk installation a file "uswsusp" is not konfigured
! This is a bug!



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=C1=E5=E7=EF=EB=E0=F2=ED=E0=F2=E0 =EF=EE=F9=E0 =E2 mail.bg =E2=E5=F7=E5 =E5 =
1GB!



Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:33:15 +0200
From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Problem with Lenny / Intel 82801G (ICH7) and line-in
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On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 21:29:55 +0200, Peter Gruener wrote:

> Hi!

>

> After installation of Debian/Lenny I have problems with the 
> microphone/line-in jack of my Dell Latitude D820 using ALSA. It does not 
> work. (In Windows XP it works without problems)

>

> The configuration is the following:

>

> Debian Lenny on 2.6.21-2-686 with DELL Latitude D820,

>

> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High 
> Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)

>

> alsa-base:
>   Installed: 1.0.14-2
>   Candidate: 1.0.14-2
>   Version table:
>  *** 1.0.14-2 0
>         500 http://http.us.debian.org lenny/main Packages

>

> alsa-utils:
>   Installed: 1.0.14-2
>   Candidate: 1.0.14-2
>   Version table:
>  *** 1.0.14-2 0
>         500 http://http.us.debian.org lenny/main Packages

>

> alsaconf tells me "Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel 
> snd-hda-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc."

>

> hda-intel Intel Corpation 82801G (ICH7 Fa....

>

> The hardware seems to be detected. Sound is there but recording does not 
> work.


Most probably "capture" is not activated for the relevant mixer control.
(Yes, that is confusing about ALSA, unfortunately.)

With this kind of problem I have always been most successful with a
trial-and-error approach using "alsamixer". If you run this application
you will get access to all mixer controls in a curses-based interface.
You can switch between the "Playback" and the "Capture" controls by
pressing TAB. You can then select controls with CURSOR LEFT/RIGHT,
change volume or amplification levels with CURSOR UP/DOWN, and activate
capture by pressing SPACE. Then it will be a matter of finding the right
control(s) to set "CAPTUR" on, and to set volume/amp levels correctly.
The relevant control might be called "Mic" or "Mix" or "Aux" or
something like that.

If you get stuck then you can post the output of

amixer | egrep -i '^( .*capture|[^ ])'

and we might be able to give more specific advice. Also tell us which
application you use to do the recording.

-- 
Regards,            | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
          Florian   |



Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:32:29 -0500
From: "Wu-Kung Sun" <sunwukung@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Motherboard Recommendation
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I'd check Phoronix:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=category&item=Motherboards
http://www.phoronix.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11
-- 
swk



Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:46:24 -0800
From: Ken Irving <fnkci@uaf.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to access RS-232 console from terminal?
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On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 10:37:43AM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:

> > 
> > You may also find a UNIX/Linux port of Putty, if you want to use a 
> > "familiar" interface, as the Debian package 'putty' ( what else? ;)
> > 
> > However, you will still need something like minicom to make the actual 
> > connection through the serial line, as others have mentioned.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the reply. Yeah I checked out minicom. It seems like it
> is the way to go. As for putty, it is quite nice but I was looking for
> something really powerful with debugging and file sending capabilities.
> It seems like minicom is the only option there.


It's not the only option, but perhaps the easiest to get working. I use
cu quite a bit, a very lean option originally from the uucp system (aka
tip on other systems), particular where running it under a scripted
wrapper, e.g., with expect or Perl's Expect module.  It's also possible 
to drive the serial port directly via terminal or shell, but maybe a bit
tough to get the stty settings configured correctly, something that minicom
does for you.

Ken

-- 
Ken Irving, fnkci+debianuser@uaf.edu



Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:53:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: Felix Karpfen <felixk@webone.com.au>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: Debian packages without md5sums
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:55:17 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:


> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 21:02:41 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote:

=20
>> Is there some way to get the system to re-read the release file?  I
>> installed the key after I upgradeed the system to etch, so all
>> packages on my DVDs show as being unverified.  I have tried to get it
>> to clear that, but nothing I have tried has worked.
>=20

> Did you try to remove all the DVD-related lines from your
> /etc/apt/sources.list, **run "aptitude update"** and then add the DVD(s=

)

> again using the "apt-cdrom" command? I think that should work but I hav=

e

> not tested it.


I believe that the above-flagged problem is similar to the one that I
posted to this thread.

But either I have not understand the suggested solution or the
solution is nonviable with my setup. =20

The only entries on my "/etc/apt/sources.list" relate to my DVDs. The
reason is that my connection to the Internet is too slow for viable
online "dist upgrades"; and even if an online "aptitude update"
actually managed to go to completion, I would just end up with an
out-of-sync setup.

Is there any available strategy that applies to cases like mine?

Felix Karpfen



--=20
Felix Karpfen
Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA)

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