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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2565

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Motherboard Recommendation        [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  Re: console-setup package             [ Michael Biebl  ]
  How to detect whether your machine i  [ Raj Kiran Grandhi  ]
  Re: HELP! can't become root           [ tom arnall  ]
  Re: install boot                      [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  Re: Converting sxw files to ps or pd  [ Andrew Sackville-West 

Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:22:08 -0400


From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Motherboard Recommendation

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On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 07:35:59PM +0100, MRH wrote:

> Dnia 04/10/07 05:35,Chris Bannister napisa??:
> >On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:46:47PM -0400, Eric Estes wrote:
> >>Can anyone recommend a good AMD (socket A2 - Athlon 64 X2) motherboard 
> >>that has good Linux support? I'm sending back my Shuttle to newegg and 
> >>need a replacement asap.

When I was looking for a new board, before deciding on the Asus M2N-SLI
Deluxe, it was suggested to me that Tyan also made good boards that work
with Debian.



The quality tends to be very good since they're server/workstation
instead of consumer/gamer.  IIRC, they had some that could take an  AM2
Athlon OR Opteron.  I would have gone for one, but I was already over
the budget set by my wife and the Tyan would have pushed her
over-the-top, since all she uses a computer for is email.


Do you need help?X

Doug.



Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:37:37 -0400


From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: how to change title bar width in twm or fvwm in etch

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On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 06:02:12AM -0700, Serena Cantor wrote:

> I find title bar too wide, but can't change it, though I have read
> twm's manual.  Thanks in advance!

I thought that one of the 'advantages' of TWM is that you can't change
anything.



Why did you decide to use TWM?



Doug.


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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:05:30 -0400


From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: "dist-upgrade" does not upgrade kernel on one of the Sarge machines even with correct "source.list"

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On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 10:11:55PM +0530, Siju George wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> One of the sarge machines runs and older kernel and "apt-get
> dist-upgrade" does not install the newer kernel.
> 
> Could some one please help me trouble shoot this?
> debian:~# uname -a
> Linux debian 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 #1 Sat Jul 1 12:02:45 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> debian:~# apt-get update
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> debian:~#
> 
> where as the newer Sarge kernel is
> 
> Linux debian 2.6.8-13-amd64-k8 #1 Sat Jun 9 16:52:03 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 

What kernel packages do you have installed?  If you don't have a
kernel-metapackage that always depends on the newest kernel, then you
won't get the newer kernel.



Look at what packages depend on the newer kernel.  At least one will be
a kernel meta-package.  Install the one that always depends on the
newest kernel.  



For example, on my Etch box, I have:



linux-image-amd64, which depends on:

	linux-image-2.6-amd64, which depends on:
		linux-image-2.6.18.5-amd64
	

Can we help you?X

This will mean that I will always have the most recent kernel
automatically selected, even if it jumps to linux-image-2.8.



Doug.



Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:15:04 -0400


From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Conducting an install via ssh

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On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 06:58:13PM +0100, Hugh wrote:

> I have been given an ibook with dead graphics, I can install OSX on  
> it with firewire (to test it works), but wish to install debian.
> As the graphics are dead, I cant do a normal install. As it doesn't  
> have a serial port, I cant control the install that way, so I wanted  
> to use debian-installer's network-console.
> 

I've never done a net install.



Is there no way to use a USB-Serial converter as the console?  The
Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO tells us how.  Since I assume that the
installer can handle a USB keyboard, wouldn't a USB-Serial console work
too?



Doug.


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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:31:07 -0400


From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg question

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On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 08:16:00PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> What does it mean when you've got all of the questions answered by 
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg refuses to 
> create configuration files because pre-existing files were found?

Run dexconf



I don't know why this happens some times, but it does.  I ran into this
and someone here told me to run dexconf and it worked.



Doug.



Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:04:45 -0700


From: Steve Lamb <grey@dmiyu.org>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: VNC install--possible dependency error?
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Daniel Burrows wrote:

>   Looks like a mistake to me.  I'd think suggesting vnc-server, or mayb=

e

> (say) "tightvncserver | vnc-server", would be just fine.  OTOH, tightvn=

c

> has protocol extensions and works better with its own server, so that
> suggestion isn't entirely silly.

    Actually I think the whole suggests is a mistake.  The whole idea is =
that


the client is to connect to a remote machine running the server.  Suggest=
ing


the server on the local machine does no good.



    That line of thinking does not seem contrary since openssh-client doe=
s not


suggest or depend on openssh-server and telnet does not suggest or depend=
 on


telnet-server.



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         Steve C. Lamb         | But who decides what they dream?
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:17:18 +0200


From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>


To: Debian-User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: console-setup package


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Frank McCormick schrieb:

>=20
>=20


> Installed the console setup package tonight - ran dpkg-reconfigure, and=

 was told=20

>=20


> " undefined kernel key code 214, 216,216 and 217"
>=20


> Anybody have an idea what's wrong ?


>=20


http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D444488

I noticed that this happpened since the upgrade of xserver-xorg.
Can you confirm that?



Cheers,


Michael


--=20


Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
universe are pointed away from Earth?



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Do you need help?X

Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:49:37 +0530


From: Raj Kiran Grandhi <grajkiran@gmail.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: How to detect whether your machine is compromised?

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Hi,



There is an article on slashdot,

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/05/1234217&from=rss which 
says that most of the phishing sites are being run from rootkitted linux 
boxes. I dunno how accurate their analysis is (the results were not 
released), however I wonder if there is any way to establish whether a 
given machine is compromised or not.



Are there any tools available that one can run on a regular basis? What 
measures can we take to ensure that we are somehow alerted if our system 
gets compromised?



Regards,


Raj Kiran



Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:28:38 +0530


From: "magesh kumaresan" <magesh.kumaresan@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Penmount USB touchscreen calibration
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Hi,



   i have a Panel PC mounted with Penmount USB touch screen and i had loaded
debian Linux with the touch screen driver also.But i don't know how to
calibrate it.


Can anyone say me how to calibrate the touch screen ?



thanks in advance,



magesh.



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Hi,


 


   i have a Panel PC mounted with Penmount USB touch screen and i had loaded debian Linux with the touch screen driver also.But i don't know how to calibrate it.


Can anyone say me how to calibrate the touch screen ? 


 


thanks in advance,




<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>magesh.</div>



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Can we help you?X

Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:11:03 -0700


From: Bill <bill3@uniserve.com>


To: debian mailing list <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Converting sxw files to ps or pdfs

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On Fri, 2007-05-10 at 10:07 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> >> AbiWord might be able to do what you want.
> >  
> > No I checked. There is a difference between internal file formats
> > and exportable or print-to-file formats. This secondary support
> > can be applied only to one file at a time. It's a time consuming
> > and error prone process when you're looking at a massive mail
> > merge. You just know you're going to get 10-20% errors - typos,
> > omissions, misnaming etc. <shudder>. 
> 
> Typos when running a mail merge??????????

No not from the merge itself, automation is the way out of the 
problem. The but I guarantee you if you had to load 500 .sxw 
files one at a time, convert them and then print them to file 
as .ps files you'd make mistakes. Hey try it at home. Count the
clicks involved saving a single .sxw file as a postscript file.
Sorry it defeats the entire purpose of a mail merge. It's like 
flying across two continents first class in a 747 and then 
crawling home from the airport on your hands and knees.
        


        b.



Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:47:04 -0700


From: tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: HELP! can't become root


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On Thursday 04 October 2007 20:30, Rob Mahurin wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 08:06:56PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > > > I got impatient with an aumix error and did 'chmod -R /dev' (and
> > > > ctl-C'ed out of it after ~3 min's.) now I can't become root. Some
> > > > examples:
>


> [...]
>

> > I've been running the system for the last couple of days. The only
> > visible problems are:
> >
> > 	the font stinks for firefox.
> > 	i can't become root, not even in single-user mode, but I can 'sudo' all
> > I want.

> >
> > is it possible I could fix the two problems without having to reinstall?
>


> Can you "sudo chmod" to repair your permissions damage?  I can send
> you an output from "find /dev -ls" if you don't have another machine
> to compare against.
>


> Rob
>


> --
> Rob Mahurin
> Dept. Of Physics & Astronomy
> University of Tennessee 	phone:  865 207 2594
> Knoxville, TN  37996   		email:	rob@utk.edu
Don't know where to look next?X

Rob,



Indeed I have no machine to check my /dev perm's. If you could send me the 
output I'd be much obliged. If you want to send it direct: 
kloro2006@gmail.com.



I got my fonts back by giving the correct permissions to my home directory and 
to .dmrc. Now the only clear problem is being able to log in as root.



I am running KDE for my desktop.



Thanks,



tom



Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:02:21 -0700


From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: install boot


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On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 11:13:30AM -0400, chloe K wrote:

> Hi all
>=20


> I use rsync to copy all files from hardrive (hda) to hdc
>=20


> then I take out hda to put this hdc drive on the same machine
> and use knoppix / fedora 5 to mount this drive
> chroot and install grub-install /dev/hda
> and also edit /etc/fstab /etc/mtab


>=20

> but hda (the clone drive) can't be bootable

In what way is it not bootable? We need more details of what
happens. Does it fail at the bios? does it fail loading grub? Does the
kernel fail?



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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:52:53 -0700


From: tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: HELP! can't become root


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On Wednesday 03 October 2007 12:17, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 12:12:52PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > I got impatient with an aumix error and did 'chmod -R /dev' (and ctl-C'ed
> > out of it after ~3 min's.) now I can't become root. Some examples:
> >
> > 	kloro@debian:/bin$ sudo /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/snddevices
> > 	sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
> > 	kloro@debian:/bin$ su
> > 	Password:
> > 	setgid: Operation not permitted
> > 	kloro@debian:/bin$
> >
> >
> > When I try to log in as root on a pseudo terminal, I get:
> >
> > 	setgid: operation not permitted
> >
> > I can log in as myself.
> >
> > Also, is there other damage that i might have done with the 'chmod'?
>


> You'd have to know what files got altered.  For example, you say you
> chmoded /dev.  Then how did /etc/sudoers get changed?
>


> Can you boot single-user mode and login as root?
>


> Do you have good backups of your data?

>

> Doug.

there is a change in the behavior when i try to log in as root. instead of: 
setgid: Operation not permitted  after inputting the password, i get: login 
incorrect   right after inputting 'root'.



sudo works now. i think it was because i changed the perm's on sudoers



thanks,



tom


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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:08:47 -0700


From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


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On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 09:11:03AM -0700, Bill wrote:

> On Fri, 2007-05-10 at 10:07 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > >> AbiWord might be able to do what you want.
> > > =20
> > > No I checked. There is a difference between internal file formats
> > > and exportable or print-to-file formats. This secondary support
> > > can be applied only to one file at a time. It's a time consuming
> > > and error prone process when you're looking at a massive mail
> > > merge. You just know you're going to get 10-20% errors - typos,
> > > omissions, misnaming etc. <shudder>.=20
> >=20
> > Typos when running a mail merge??????????
>=20


> No not from the merge itself, automation is the way out of the=20
> problem. The but I guarantee you if you had to load 500 .sxw=20
> files one at a time, convert them and then print them to file=20
> as .ps files you'd make mistakes. Hey try it at home. Count the
> clicks involved saving a single .sxw file as a postscript file.
> Sorry it defeats the entire purpose of a mail merge. It's like=20
> flying across two continents first class in a 747 and then=20
> crawling home from the airport on your hands and knees.
> =09

Just to say it -- is there no option for the output of the mailmerge?=20



I imagine you'll have to get creative and either use the Ooo scripting
interface *or* do it outside or Ooo: roll your own little script to
sed the appropriate fields and output it into a ps format. Maybe you
could save the thing into some TeX format, script a bunch of seds and
the run the appropriate tex output program.




A



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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:40:44 +0200


From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Debian packages without md5sums

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[ Felix, I hope this message also helps with your problem. ]



On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 16:22:06 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote:

> Florian Kulzer writes:
> > On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 21:02:41 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > Did you try to remove all the DVD-related lines from your
> > /etc/apt/sources.list, run "aptitude update" and then add the DVD(s)
> > again using the "apt-cdrom" command? I think that should work but I have
> > not tested it.
> 
> I hadn't tried that originally, but I have since with no change.

[ snip: output of "apt-key list" ]



You have all the necessary keys for a normal Debian system. However, it
seems that the DVDs and CDs simply do not contain Release.gpg files, so
there are no signatures to check. (I looked at an old netinst CD and I
downloaded the first Etch_r1 amd64 CD; I could not find a Release.gpg
file on either one.)


Can we help you?X

What you can do now is to check the md5sums and the sha1sums of the
DVDs.  If they match then you can be reasonably sure that all the
individual packages on these DVDs are OK.



First you need to download the files which list these checksums:



  wget http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r1/i386/iso-dvd/MD5SUMS{,.sign}
  wget http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r1/i386/iso-dvd/SHA1SUMS{,.sign}



Then you can verify the signatures on the two files:



  gpg --verify MD5SUMS.sign


  gpg --verify SHA1SUMS.sign



These two commands should download Steve McIntyre's public key (ID
88C7C1F7) from a keyserver and then check if the current content of
these files has indeed been signed by him. ("Good signature from ...")



Now you can test if your DVDs have the same MD5 and SHA1 checksums as
listed in MD5SUMS and SHA1SUMS. To calculate these checksums for your
DVDs, put one of them into the drive and run:



  md5sum -b /dev/scd0


  sha1sum -b /dev/scd0


Can't find what you're looking for?X

You have to replace "/dev/scd0" with the correct device node of your DVD
reader; check where the dvd symlink is pointing ("ls -l /dev/dvd").
Calculating these sums for a whole DVD will take a while, even on a fast
computer. You can run all the above commands as you normal user;
however, you have to be a member of the "cdrom" group to read the raw
DVD device.



Once you are happy about your DVDs, you can do this (as root):



echo 'APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";' > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99trust-cdrom 



This tells apt(itude) to trust all "cdrom:" sources. (The DVDs have
cdrom: URIs in /etc/apt/sources.list, right?)


> > > I also noticed
> > > recently that some packages show multiple entries in aptitude, so
> > > possibly clearing the entries would clear that.
> > 
> > Do you mean multiple versions for the same package or the same package
> > name as two separate entries? (The former would be OK, the latter would
> > be cause for concern, I think.) Can you give an example with more
> > details?
> 
> I should have been more clear about that.  I don't have different
> versions since I just have packages from the Etch DVDs.  It isn't in
> the actual aptitude list, but instead in the individual package
> entries.  The list of packages that depend on the package sometimes
> shows duplicate entries for packages that I already have.  This may
> just be an artifact of the way that aptitude tracks reverse
> dependencies.  An example is under apt, the list of 'packages which
> depend on apt' includes:
> 
> i     debtags 1.6.6                                                                                           
> i     debtags 1.6.6

Hmm, can you post the output of "apt-cache policy debtags"?
 

> My /etc/apt/sources.list has only the 3 original Debian 4.0 DVD's, and
> all other entries have been commented out throughout this time.
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to look at this.  This isn't a problem now,
> but I am nervous about adding other packages from the net without some
> verification that they are valid.

Your system is already configured to check all the packages from the
net, but it is important that that we get rid of the "untrusted" message
for the DVD packages. (Otherwise you will get used to ignoring the
warning or, even worse, you will be tempted to turn it off globally.)


-- 
Regards,            | 
http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
          Florian   |


Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:15:20 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: HELP! can't become root
Message-ID: <20071005171520.GL7195@localhost.localdomain>
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On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 09:47:04AM -0700, tom arnall wrote:

> On Thursday 04 October 2007 20:30, Rob Mahurin wrote:

=2E..

> > Can you "sudo chmod" to repair your permissions damage?  I can send
> > you an output from "find /dev -ls" if you don't have another machine
> > to compare against.

=2E..
>=20

> Indeed I have no machine to check my /dev perm's. If you could send me th=

e=20

> output I'd be much obliged. If you want to send it direct:=20
> kloro2006@gmail.com.

>=20

> I got my fonts back by giving the correct permissions to my home director=

y and=20

> to .dmrc. Now the only clear problem is being able to log in as root.


the problem is that three minutes of chmod'ing down into /dev is going
to change permissions on all sorts of stuff in the system. You now
probably have significant numbers of binaries that are 777 and
shouldn't be, for example. If you really want to fix it, you'll have
to look at a whole system tree.=20

Or reinstall a bunch of packages in hopes that it fixes up the
perms. Find one that you know is wrong and do an

aptitude reinstall <package>

and see what happens. If it fixes the perms, then I'd follow it up
with

dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ {print $2}' | xargs aptitude reinstall

untested.=20

The perms of /dev should fix themselves up automatically on reboot as
udev should be recreating the devices on the fly.

A

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