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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2579

Today's Topics: 

  Re: seeking advice on free dns        [ "Russell L. Harris"  ]
  ifupdown and nfs mounts               [ Christopher Zimmermann  ]
  rkhunter, changed files = problems?   [ "David A."  ]
  Re: (etch) Using aptitude after usin  [ Miles Bader  ]
  Re: rkhunter, changed files = proble  [ Gilles Mocellin  ]
  df -h listing                         [ roberto  ]

Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:42:15 -0500
From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: seeking advice on free dns 

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> Michael Acklin wrote:

>> I am in the process of setting up a server and this would work
>> great for me. I just registered with the site and set up my first
>> sub-domain. That worked fine but now I am at a loss.  This is my

Do you need help?X

>> situation. I set up a sub-domain named antifoo with a domain name
>> of chickenlips.com FreeDNS is pointing my dsl conncection to my ip
>> address of 43.129.16.255, which infact is my router. The server I
>> want to set up on the net is behind my router at 192.168.0.102 and
>> I want the server to be able to be accessed by the
>> antifoo.chickenlips.com address.  Does anyone know what I can do to
>> get this to work? I have a D-Link DI-624 4port/wireless router and
>> I know I will have to do something there and then set up my debian
>> server somehow.

Do a Google search on "DMZ" or "firewall demilitarized zone".

You can use a spare computer as a firewall/router; a software package called "SmoothWall" (www.smoothwall.org) is about the most simple way to do this; to install and configure SmoothWall takes about fifteen minutes. (In my experience, SmoothWall is easier to configure than is a firmware firewall/router.)

Do you need more help?X

SmoothWall has provision for three network interfaces: "red" for the ADSL or cable modem, "green" for the LAN, and "purple" for servers (this is the DMZ).

SmoothWall also has provision to automatically notify the dynamic DNS provider whenever the IP address of the firewall/router changes.

RLH

Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:29:07 +0200
From: Michael Ott <michael@king-coder.de> To: Debian User List English <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: xprint in sid
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Hi!

I am wondering that on my installation (SID) xprint is an obsolet package. Does the mozilla products do not need longer this packages? 

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:46:42 +0200
From: Christopher Zimmermann <madroach@zakweb.de> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: ifupdown and nfs mounts
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Hi!

Can't find what you're looking for?X

On my lenny box the /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs script runs after bringing up ath0. But I need it to run only later after tun0 is brought up.
Is there a nice way to do this or do I have to modify the script?

Christopher Zimmermann

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:54:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Serena Cantor <qipaishi2006@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: how to add etch's first CD image to /etc/apt/sources.list 

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:12:16 +0200
From: Christopher Zimmermann <madroach@zakweb.de> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ifupdown and nfs mounts
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:46:42 +0200
Christopher Zimmermann <madroach@localhost> wrote:

> Hi!

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> On my lenny box the /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs script runs after
> bringing up ath0. But I need it to run only later after tun0 is brought
> up.
> Is there a nice way to do this or do I have to modify the script?

Already found a solution. I added 'ASYNCMOUNTNFS=3Dno' to /etc/default/rcS

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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:13:47 +0100
From: William Pursell <bill.pursell@gmail.com> To: Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu> Cc: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: The effectiveness of 'make uninstall' command 

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Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I recently compiled a bunch of software on my Debian Etch system

 > for testing. After testing I wanted to remove them and I have been
 > running the 'make uninstall' command in the source code directory
 > of the respective application. I was curious as to how effective
 > this command was. It seems like it removes everything it installs.

>
> Now this brings up the obvious question of the usefulness of the
 > checkinstall software for managing installations outside of debian
 > repos. I understand checkinstall is probably usefull for computers
 > in a lab setup but for personal workstation, 'make install' and

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 > 'make uninstall' seems to be sufficient.

>
> Any comments?

The effectiveness of make uninstall completely depends on the package. It is extremely simple to construct an autoconfiscated package that leaves files on the file system after make uninstall, and it is also easy to do so inadvertantly. For example, suppose the Makefile.am contains:

dist_man1_MANS = foo.1
install-data-hook:

         cd $(DESTDIR)$(man1dir); ln -s foo.1 bar.1

make install will install foo.1 and link bar.1 to it. make uninstall will remove foo.1, but bar.1 will be left dangling unless the maintainer also adds an uninstall hook, which is an easy thing to forget to do.

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Also, consider what happend if you do:
$ make DESTDIR=/non/standard/place install followed some time later by a simple
$ make uninstall

In this case, the uninstall will do pretty much nothing.

make uninstall is a good tool, but there are some gotchas of which to be wary. (No dangling prepositions from me!)

Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:50:40 -0400
From: mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris Bannister) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to detect whether your machine is compromised? 

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On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 05:06:39AM -0700, Dancing Fingers wrote:
> This is one of the best threads I ever read. I took a basic course
> in linux security and I stiil feel that I've only scratched the
> surface. I would say the most important thing is to learn your
> system inside out. You don't know where you're vulnerable until you
> know what server opens what port.
>
> I'm not a linux guru but I felt more vulnerable on my windows
> box. It's behavior varied emensly and I always wndered what was
> going on. Most viruses, to the best of my knowledge, are writter for
> windows.

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/05/1234217 http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/scrt/CD0B9D97EE6FE411CC25736A000E4723 

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:51:05 -0400 From: mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris Bannister) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: (etch) Using aptitude after using dselect - any issues? Message-ID: <20071008125105.GB866@box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 01:19:33AM +0200, Tobias Nissen wrote:
> Hi Martin!
>
> Martin Waller wrote:
> > Is it safe to switch to using aptititude as my package manager after
> > having used dselect up to now?
>
> Yes, it is safe. dselect and aptitude use different databases.
dpkg seems to rely on dselect for some reason: root@box:~# dpkg --purge dselect dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of dselect: dpkg depends on dselect. [..] -- Chris. ======

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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:00:04 +0200 From: Lorenzo Bettini <bettini@dsi.unifi.it> To: Debian User Mailing List <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: security.debian.org and www.debian-multimedia.org offline? Message-ID: <4709F194.30702@dsi.unifi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I cannot access these update sites anymore with apt... actually, if I try with a browser they always redirect to skype site (?!) -- Lorenzo Bettini, PhD in Computer Science, DSI, Univ. di Firenze ICQ# lbetto, 16080134 (GNU/Linux User # 158233) HOME: http://www.lorenzobettini.it MUSIC: http://www.purplesucker.com http://www.myspace.com/supertrouperabba BLOGS: http://tronprog.blogspot.com http://longlivemusic.blogspot.com http://www.gnu.org/software/src-highlite http://www.gnu.org/software/gengetopt http://www.gnu.org/software/gengen http://doublecpp.sourceforge.net

Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:01:03 +0200 From: Florian Lindner <mailinglists@xgm.de> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: nano: del/backspace confusion Message-Id: <200710081101.03934.mailinglists@xgm.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I just did a new Debian installation and my nano editor has a confusion of the backspace and delete key (delete works like backspace). I've looked at the config file and commented out an appropiate option but it's still there: osiris:/# grep -v "^#" /etc/nanorc | grep -v "^$" set historylog set rebinddelete set suspend Any other option to set? Thanks, Florian

Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:07:59 +0100 From: Bob <spam@homeurl.co.uk> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Simultaneous AC3/DTS passthrough & stereo analog output Message-ID: <470A55DF.8090505@homeurl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using an Audigy2 in one PC and an SB Live value in another and I output to a 5.1 speaker system over S/PDIF coax and to my headphones (via the TV) over analogue stereo. I have AC3 passthrough working when I call mplayer with -afm hwac3, (I think DTS will work but can't find a test clip) and I can soft decode and downmix the AC3 audio with -afm liba52, so that's all great, except that with -afm liba52 rear left and right are mixed and I don't get anything out of the LFE track. What I can't do is both at once which would make life easer for SWMBO. My google search (below) has reviled I'm not alone in wanting this and hints that it may not be possible but my search skills are week so I thought I'd consult the oracle. "ac3 passthrough" "analog (output | stereo | downmix)" (simultaneous | "both at" | "same time") Has anyone got any suggestions on how to get this working? Thanks for any help.

Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:43:06 -0000 From: "David A." <achoice@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: rkhunter, changed files = problems? Message-ID: <1191832986.101087.226720@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, starting oct. 2nd rkhunter has started to log warings about changed files. At first i thought "ok" it's probably because I usualy do a "aptitude full-upgrade" once every day or so, running SID, i386. But now I'm not so sure... Can anyone help me veirfy this as a false positive or a real problem? It's my home firewall/desktop, nothing fancy, only apache and ssh open, I'm the only user. Regards, david. [10:10:18] /bin/dmesg [ Warning ] [10:10:18] Warning: The file properties have changed: [10:10:18] File: /bin/dmesg [10:10:18] Current inode: 830723 Stored inode: 830720 [10:10:18] Current file modification time: 1191297943 [10:10:18] Stored file modification time : 1190434387 [10:10:19] /bin/echo [ OK ] [10:10:20] /bin/ed [ OK ] [10:10:21] /bin/egrep [ Warning ] [10:10:21] Warning: The file properties have changed: [10:10:21] File: /bin/egrep [10:10:21] Current hash: 7cd73efc63c459ab8a482babc041c5826f5cecb5 [10:10:21] Stored hash : a2b3ad467d144ca1ffdb3bea0df2e118dd530792 [10:10:21] Current inode: 830756 Stored inode: 831002 [10:10:22] Current size: 92468 Stored size: 92276 [10:10:22] Current file modification time: 1191499712 [10:10:22] Stored file modification time : 1189060044 [10:10:22] Info: Found file '/bin/egrep': it is whitelisted for the 'script replacement' check. [10:10:23] /bin/fgrep [ Warning ] [10:10:23] Warning: The file properties have changed: [10:10:23] File: /bin/fgrep [10:10:23] Current hash: e7dba608e2b07a4c8f58ef845698c5ce71d629d5 [10:10:23] Stored hash : 2c46a7a7bef4ce1c90e39b1acf6cd33d757c3262 [10:10:24] Current inode: 830834 Stored inode: 831003 [10:10:24] Current size: 52912 Stored size: 51248 [10:10:24] Current file modification time: 1191499712 [10:10:24] Stored file modification time : 1189060044 [10:10:24] Info: Found file '/bin/fgrep': it is whitelisted for the 'script replacement' check. [10:10:25] /bin/grep [ Warning ] [10:10:25] Warning: The file properties have changed: [10:10:25] File: /bin/grep [10:10:25] Current hash: a0989f2cd518f36254f8c247a4a8c5e250e2f9d8 [10:10:26] Stored hash : 983854833309906246a0b1e34f1ba04ebb6d0651 [10:10:26] Current inode: 830755 Stored inode: 831001 [10:10:26] Current size: 100468 Stored size: 96372 [10:10:26] Current file modification time: 1191499712 [10:10:26] Stored file modification time : 1189060044 [10:10:27] /bin/ip [ OK ] [10:10:28] /bin/kill [ Warning ] [10:10:28] Warning: The file properties have changed: [10:10:29] File: /bin/kill [10:10:29] Current inode: 830772 Stored inode: 830725 [10:10:29] Current file modification time: 1191589008 [10:10:29] Stored file modification time : 1189455008 [10:10:30] /bin/login [ OK ] [10:10:31] /bin/ls [ OK ] [10:10:31] /bin/lsmod [ OK ] [10:10:32] /bin/mktemp [ OK ] [10:10:33] /bin/more [ Warning ] [10:10:34] Warning: The file properties have changed: [10:10:34] File: /bin/more [10:10:34] Current inode: 830724 Stored inode: 830721 [10:10:34] Current file modification time: 1191297943 [10:10:34] Stored file modification time : 1190434387 [10:10:35] /bin/mount [ Warning ] [10:10:35] Warning: The file properties have changed: [10:10:35] File: /bin/mount [10:10:35] Current hash: 1a878ee3c6d0d320260e472e4f9761e582413a43 [10:10:36] Stored hash : d1474694f1390da8dcc3fca5198599cd46d165fc [10:10:36] Current inode: 830721 Stored inode: 830866 [10:10:36] Current size: 61264 Stored size: 60976 [10:10:36] Current file modification time: 1191297943 [10:10:36] Stored file modification time : 1190434387 [10:10:37] /bin/mv [ OK ] [10:10:38] /bin/netstat [ OK ] [10:10:39] /bin/ps [ Warning ] [10:10:39] Warning: The file properties have changed: [10:10:39] File: /bin/ps [10:10:39] Current inode: 830865 Stored inode: 830751 [10:10:39] Current file modification time: 1191589008 [10:10:40] Stored file modification time : 1189455008 [10:10:40] /bin/pwd [ OK ] [10:10:41] /bin/readlink [ OK ] [10:10:42] /bin/sed [ Warning ] [10:10:42] Warning: The file properties have changed: [10:10:42] File: /bin/sed [10:10:42] Current hash: f157d60c55e7d5d90392feb5ab78613a491538f7 [10:10:43] Stored hash : 4c933909719f1ac21794157d32fa3edf6efe1a02 [10:10:43] Current inode: 830833 Stored inode: 830747 [10:10:43] Current size: 40436 Stored size: 40308 [10:10:43] Current file modification time: 1191079864 [10:10:43] Stored file modification time : 1187193844 [10:10:44] /bin/sh [ OK ] [10:10:45] /bin/su [ OK ] [10:10:46] /bin/touch [ OK ] [10:10:47] /bin/uname [ OK ] [10:10:48] /bin/which [ Warning ] [10:10:48] Warning: The file properties have changed: [10:10:48] Warning: The file properties have changed: [10:10:48] File: /bin/which [10:10:49] Current inode: 830831 Stored inode: 830863 [10:10:49] Current file modification time: 1191159100 [10:10:49] Stored file modification time : 1190225529 [10:10:49] Info: Found file '/bin/which': it is whitelisted for the 'script replacement' check. [10:10:50] /bin/tcsh [ OK ] ...

Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:01:20 +0900 From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> To: mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris Bannister) Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: (etch) Using aptitude after using dselect - any issues? Message-ID: <87ir5iou8v.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris Bannister) writes:
> dpkg seems to rely on dselect for some reason:
It did a lonnng time ago, but it doesn't anymore.
> root@box:~# dpkg --purge dselect
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of dselect:
> dpkg depends on dselect.
When's the last time you updated this system?!? -Miles -- Would you like fries with that?

Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:58:27 +0200 From: Gilles Mocellin <gilles.mocellin@free.fr> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: rkhunter, changed files = problems? Message-Id: <200710081158.28028.gilles.mocellin@free.fr> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2002403.DbPtPY4Bj3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart2002403.DbPtPY4Bj3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Le Monday 08 October 2007 10:43:06 David A., vous avez =E9crit=A0:
> Hello,
>
> starting oct. 2nd rkhunter has started to log warings about changed
> files.
> At first i thought "ok" it's probably because I usualy do a "aptitude
> full-upgrade" once every day or so, running SID, i386. But now I'm not
> so sure...
>
> Can anyone help me veirfy this as a false positive or a real problem?
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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:53:09 +0200 From: Jan Willem Stumpel <jstumpel@planet.nl> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Simultaneous sounds, again Message-ID: <4709FE05.5010408@my.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Trying to get multiple simultaneous sound streams working on my Sid system, I got as far as the following: mp/s mp/a xmms youtube skype mp/s OK N/A X XX X mp/a N/A X X XX X xmms X X X OK OK youtube X X OK OK OK skype X X OK OK N/A Notes: - each row in the table begins with the sound using program which is started FIRST. - mp/s means: using mplayer to watch a local .avi file, with sdl audio output. - mp/a means: using mplayer to watch a local .avi file, with alsa audio output. - youtube means: watching a youtube (i.e. Flash) movie with iceape. - X means: the program which is started second produces no sound - XX means: the program which is started second produces no sound, and there are other problems (iceape freezing). - OK means OK. - N/A means: test cannot be done, or is meaningless. So it seems that there is one group (xmms/Skype/youtube) the members of which tolerate each other (all three can even make noise together). There is another "group" (mplayer) which allows multiple instances with simultaneous sound, but only if sdl sound is selected. However, the two "groups" do not tolerate each other. I cannot hear Skype ringing while playing a local .avi file, for instance. Does anyone get different/better results? Any tips? I also think (but cannot prove this now) that a few months ago I could hear skype while playing .avi movies, but that it became impossible since (doubtless through some upgrade). Sound hardware is AC 97 on motherboard. Regards, Jan

Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 03:16:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Serena Cantor <qipaishi2006@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: (solved)Re: how to add etch's first CD image to /etc/apt/sources.list Message-ID: <587593.31231.qm@web35715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have solved it on my own. --- Serena Cantor <qipaishi2006@yahoo.com> wrote:
> They say it's impossible. Why?
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:28:03 -0400 From: Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: (solved)Re: how to add etch's first CD image to /etc/apt/sources.list Message-ID: <20071008102803.GM18665@horacrux> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:16:54AM -0700, Serena Cantor wrote:
> I have solved it on my own.
>
> --- Serena Cantor <qipaishi2006@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Serena, while it is great that you solved the issue on your own, it would be very much appreciated if you reply to the list with how you solve a particular problem. Some folks prepend the phrase '[solved]' to the existing subject line, this allows easier searching later. Leaving the list readers with 'I solved it', does not enlighten them and they may have had the exact same issue and now are left with no solution. Additionally, I have had an issue that was solved on this list and when the issue reoccured, I was able to search on this list to find the answer instead of relying on my limited and incomplete recollection of the answer. So please consider doing this in the future. Thanks, K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System | go to counter.li.org and | | `- http://www.debian.org/ | be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |_______ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed _______|

Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:24:35 +0200 From: roberto <roberto03@gmail.com> To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: df -h listing Message-ID: <4bcde3e10710080424w787da053wa2a01f170605c2d3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hello i use the "df -h" or "du -h"command to check how much disk space is occupied by files and directories but is it possible to sort the output list in an order such that the first (or conversely the last) item is the largest in size ? thank you -- roberto OS: GNU/Linux, Debian End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2579 ************************************************** Received on Mon Oct 8 07:46:39 2007

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