debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2668

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2668

Today's Topics:

  Re: 1GB RAM is missing.               [ Wakko Warner  ]
  Re: Silly question: Where's eth0?     [ Wayne Topa  ]
  Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or   [ Paul Johnson  ]
  Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or   [ Paul Johnson  ]
  Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or   [ Nate Bargmann  ]
  Re: cobol compiler/gui dev enviromen  [ "Tim DeWall"  ]
  Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or   [ "Tim DeWall"  ]
  Re: 1GB RAM is missing.               [ "Tim DeWall"  ]
  Re: k3b crashing when track added fo  [ "Tim DeWall"  ]
  Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or   [ "Tim DeWall"  ]
  Re: Silly question: Where's eth0?     [ "Tim DeWall"  ]
  Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or   [ "Tim DeWall"  ]

Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:18:05 -0400
From: Wakko Warner <wakko@animx.eu.org>
To: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

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Ron Johnson wrote:
> Modern 32 bit processors and chipsets map around those limitations.
>
> For many years there have been 32-bit server motherboards that
> accept and use (in both Linux and Windows) up to 64GB RAM.

I have a SuperMicro X7DA3+ board with 4gb of memory installed. Here's what I see:
# uname -a
Linux vegeta 2.6.20-pae #4 SMP PREEMPT Wed Apr 4 18:10:06 EDT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux # free

             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       4150372     709824    3440548          0     143332     247752
-/+ buffers/cache:     318740    3831632
Swap:            0          0          0

I have not compiled my kernel for 64-bit yet. Given this I may not. I really don't want to change my userland to 64-bit right now.

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:46:16 -0400 From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Silly question: Where's eth0? Message-ID: <20071023234616.GE26283@buddy.mtntop.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum(bg271828@yahoo.com) is reported to have said:
> Andrew Sackville wrote:
> >personally, I think network-manager is more trouble
> than >its worth,
> >but that's jsut me.
>
> Im starting to feel that your right--when it works its
> nice but when it doesnt i never know what to do.
>
> >please provide the exact output of the following:
>
> >dmesg | grep -i ^eth
>
> $ dmesg | grep -i ^eth
> eth1: Coming out of suspend...
> eth1: no IPv6 routers present
>
> >cat /etc/network/interfaces
>
> $ cat /etc/network/interfaces
> # This file describes the network interfaces available
> on your system
> # and how to activate them. For more information, see
> interfaces(5).
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> # The primary network interface
> allow-hotplug eth0
>
You do not have entries for eth0 or eth1 in your /etc/network/interfaces file. See debian-reference Section 10.6.1.1.
> [i dont know why eth1 doesnt show here, its my current
> WiFi interface]
>
I wonder how eth1 is working at all without being in the interfaces file. I hsve never used an interface without having a stanza for it in /etc/network/interfaces. I suppose you could do it with route but that would get old really fast. <--<snip>-->
> And in response to Wayne's question:
>
> $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
> # This file was automatically generated by the
> /lib/udev/write_net_rules
> # program, probably run by the
> persistent-net-generator.rules rules file.
> #
> # You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on
> a single line.
> # MAC addresses must be written in lowercase.
>
> # PCI device 0x8086:0x109a (e1000)
> SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*",
> ATTRS{address}=="00:15:58:c8:b5:39", NAME="eth0"
>
> # PCI device 0x8086:0x4227 (ipw3945)
> SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*",
> ATTRS{address}=="00:1b:77:8d:24:56", NAME="eth1"
>
udev has found both of your interfaces so if you add them to the interfaces file you should be good to go. Wayne -- Real computer scientists only write specs for languages that might run on future hardware. Nobody trusts them to write specs for anything homo sapiens will ever be able to fit on a single planet. _______________________________________________________

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:06:43 -0000 From: Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? Message-ID: <1193184403.445746.197970@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Oct 23, 2:10 pm, "H.S." <hs.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any comments on its functionality from Linux? linuxprinting.org says it
> works pefectly. What about its durability?
I (and my mother) have both had pretty poor luck with the utility or long term durability of anything made by Brother that isn't a sewing machine. Almost like their name can be used in a sentence: "Oh, brother, more rebadged, Chinese-built crap."
> And, finally, any other suggestions?
I have a HP LaserJet 4+ that my girlfriend found in a dumpster in perfect working order(!) almost a decade ago. It's relatively small, quiet and fast compared to most of the business laser printers I've seen, the toner lasts forever at the print volumes you're talking about, and it's relatively cheap compared to other models when it does run out thanks to the LaserJet 4 series popularity. People like 'em so much you can actually find people who will come out and repair them at a relatively reasonable expense. How many other printers have that? :o) It might not have duplex printing, but one way around that, which has worked for me since high school, is find a printer with no jobs waiting, print the cover page and even number pages, flip the stack and throw it back in the paper tray and print the odd pages on the backs of the evens. You can do this with pretty much any printer, and you can figure out which way you need to reload the paper for the second pass with a little trial and error and a two-page document.

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:08:50 -0000 From: Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? Message-ID: <1193184530.166655.110640@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Oct 23, 2:30 pm, "Russell L. Harris" <rlhar...@oplink.net> wrote:
> * H.S. <hs.sa...@gmail.com> [071023 16:14]:
>
> > Hello,
>
> > Anybody have experience with this printer:
> > Brother HL-5250DN
> > (http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=HL5250DN).
>
> > I have been asked to choose a B/W laser printer to buy for a very small
> > office. I don't expect it to print more than around 10 pages per day. I
> > have also been looking at HL-2070N, but duplex printing feature in
> > HL-5250DN attracted me to it more.
>
> > Any comments on its functionality from Linux? linuxprinting.org says it
> > works pefectly. What about its durability?
>
> > And, finally, any other suggestions?
>
> > thanks,
> > ->HS
>
> The feature which matters above almost every other feature is
> Postscript. Second is a HP JetDirect ethernet interface. Sacrifice
> whatever else you must in order to get Postscript within your budget
> limitations.
Another great thing about the LaserJet 4... all are postscript, and all are JetDirect capable (and those that aren't, you can find a JetDirect daughter board for).

Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:40:30 -0500 From: Nate Bargmann <n0nb@networksplus.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? Message-ID: <20071024004030.GD20361@mail.networksplus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline * H.S. <hs.samix@gmail.com> [2007 Oct 23 18:07 -0500]:
> Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > * H.S. <hs.samix@gmail.com> [071023 17:07]:
> >> If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are
> >> postscript printers:
> >> 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX
> >> 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX
> >>
> >> and these are the ports that they have:
> >> 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB
> >> 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0
> >>
> >> I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect the
> >> printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. How
> >> does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is HP
> >> JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers?
I have the HL5240 that I bought almost a year ago. Very nice and I'm very pleased with its performance. I have it hooked to a parallel port on my Gigafast network switch. It took a bit of doing to get configured just right, but once I found the PPD buried on Brother's website and installed it into CUPS, it prints perfectly. I am very satisfied. - Nate >> P.S. I know that isn't exactly an answer to your question. -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @ | a GNU generation!" http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org

Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:50:18 -0500 From: "Tim DeWall" <tdewall@itctel.com> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>, "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? Message-ID: <000b01c815d7$da12db80$0500000a@tjscompaq> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 10/23/07 17:53, Russell L. Harris wrote: >>> * H.S. <hs.samix@gmail.com> [071023 17:07]: >>>> If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are >>>> postscript printers: >>>> 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX >>>> 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX >>>> >>>> and these are the ports that they have: >>>> 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB >>>> 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 >>>> >>>> I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect >>>> the >>>> printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. >>>> How >>>> does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is >>>> HP >>>> JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers? >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> ->HS >>> Forgive me; I misread your letter. >> >>> The specifications you cite above do NOT indicate Postscript >>> capability; look for the term "Postscript". Postscript is a universal >>> printer control language which is a much-preferred alternative to >>> proprietary languages such as PCL6, etc. >> >>> In general, text output in Linux is Postscript by default; numerous >>> other printer control languages are accommodated, but sometimes the >>> process of accomodation becomes rather involved, and doesn't always >>> work quite right. >> >>> HP JetDirect is the generic name which HP uses for its ethernet >>> interface, which typically is a plug-in module which can vary from one >>> printer model to the next. >> >>> My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with >>> Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is >>> well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate >>> over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and >>> making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other >>> machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth >>> anything. >> >> While having a PS interpreter built into the printer is nice, it is >> *not* vital. The ghostscript interpreter will convert PS to PCL >> without blinking an eye. >> >
> Excellent to know that.
>
> Now, Eric mentioned memory in his post. I can understand that since
> sometimes the 2070N at my home takes quite a while to print a page with
> graphics in it (it has 16MB RAM). HL-5250DN comes with 32MB. How does
> that sound? It also has an empty slot to accommodate 64MB, 128MB, 256MB
> or 512MB (144-pin DIMM).
>
> ->HS
> >
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:50:13 -0500 From: "Tim DeWall" <tdewall@itctel.com> To: "Chris Parker" <chris_parker@adelphia.net>, <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: cobol compiler/gui dev enviroment Message-ID: <000601c815d7$d7026730$0500000a@tjscompaq> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Parker" <chris_parker@adelphia.net> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:52 PM Subject: cobol compiler/gui dev enviroment
> Hello all,
>
> Does anyone know of a good cobol compiler and gui development enviroment?
> I have seen open-cobol as a compiler, but was wondering if anyone has any
> other recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
> >
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:50:25 -0500 From: "Tim DeWall" <tdewall@itctel.com> To: "Ron Johnson" <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>, <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? Message-ID: <001001c815d7$de30a120$0500000a@tjscompaq> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Johnson" <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
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> On 10/23/07 17:53, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>> * H.S. <hs.samix@gmail.com> [071023 17:07]: >>> If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are >>> postscript printers: >>> 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX >>> 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX >>> >>> and these are the ports that they have: >>> 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB >>> 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 >>> >>> I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect the >>> printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. How >>> does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is HP >>> JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers? >>> >>> thanks, >>> ->HS >> >> Forgive me; I misread your letter. >> >> The specifications you cite above do NOT indicate Postscript >> capability; look for the term "Postscript". Postscript is a universal >> printer control language which is a much-preferred alternative to >> proprietary languages such as PCL6, etc. >> >> In general, text output in Linux is Postscript by default; numerous >> other printer control languages are accommodated, but sometimes the >> process of accomodation becomes rather involved, and doesn't always >> work quite right. >> >> HP JetDirect is the generic name which HP uses for its ethernet >> interface, which typically is a plug-in module which can vary from one >> printer model to the next. >> >> My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with >> Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is >> well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate >> over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and >> making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other >> machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth >> anything. >
> While having a PS interpreter built into the printer is nice, it is
> *not* vital. The ghostscript interpreter will convert PS to PCL
> without blinking an eye.
>
> - --
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> Jefferson LA USA
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:51:11 -0500 From: "Tim DeWall" <tdewall@itctel.com> To: "Ron Johnson" <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>, <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: 1GB RAM is missing. Message-ID: <004401c815d7$f98fc540$0500000a@tjscompaq> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Johnson" <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: Re: 1GB RAM is missing.
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> On 10/23/07 18:00, Stephen Cormier wrote:
>> On October 23, 2007 05:32:55 pm Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 10/23/07 14:16, Stephen Cormier wrote: >>> [snip] >>> >>>> You are going to have to accept that you are never going to get all 4gb >>>> running a 32bit install due to the limitations of using 32bit where >>>> things >>> At the pid level, or at the OS level? >> >> I take it by pid you mean a process if so then it is my understanding >> IIRC >> that on a 32bit install you are limited to 2gb maximum of memory that can >> be >> used by a single process. The limitations I talk about here are BIOS/arch >> limited where a certain amount of memory is reserved for things like your >> video card, interrupts ... this has to be mapped below 4gb so a hole in >> the >> memory has to be there for it to be used, like back in the DOS days where >> you >> had the 15mb-16mb memory hole option in the BIOS. I believe that was just >> video related though if my memory serves me but the principle is the same >> the >> space needs to be reserved on 32bit thus lowers the total ram available >> on >> 64bit it is not needed to be reserved so you get all the memory. >
> Modern 32 bit processors and chipsets map around those limitations.
>
> For many years there have been 32-bit server motherboards that
> accept and use (in both Linux and Windows) up to 64GB RAM.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
> http://kerneltrap.org/node/2450
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:51:21 -0500 From: "Tim DeWall" <tdewall@itctel.com> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>, "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com> Subject: Re: k3b crashing when track added for audio cd Message-ID: <005001c815d8$011fa730$0500000a@tjscompaq> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:05 PM Subject: Re: k3b crashing when track added for audio cd
> Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 the mental interface of >> H.S. told: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Looks like the last upgrade broke something in k3b in Debian Testing. If >>> I start an audio cd project, k3b crashes the moment I add a flac file to >>> the project. >> >> http://incoming.debian.org/k3b_1.0.3-3_i386.changes >> >> ... >> k3b (1.0.3-3) unstable; urgency=low >> >> * Rebuild with new flac libraries (closes: #446775) >> * Make libk3b-dev depend on kdelibs4-dev (closes: #443374) >> * Add homepage field to debian/control >> ... >> >> Elimar >> >
> Yes, I just checked my mail and had one from the maintainer earlier
> today. I just love Debian! And open source!
>
> I am going to upgrade the machine, as soon as my apt mirrors get
> updated, and will send a thank you mail to him.
>
> regards,
> ->HS
> > > >
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:51:26 -0500 From: "Tim DeWall" <tdewall@itctel.com> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>, "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? Message-ID: <005501c815d8$04301b80$0500000a@tjscompaq> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
> Russell L. Harris wrote:
>> * H.S. <hs.samix@gmail.com> [071023 17:07]: >>> If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are >>> postscript printers: >>> 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX >>> 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX >>> >>> and these are the ports that they have: >>> 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB >>> 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 >>> >>> I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect the >>> printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. How >>> does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is HP >>> JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers? >>> >>> thanks, >>> ->HS >> >> Forgive me; I misread your letter. >> >> The specifications you cite above do NOT indicate Postscript >> capability; look for the term "Postscript". Postscript is a universal >> printer control language which is a much-preferred alternative to >> proprietary languages such as PCL6, etc. >
> I was just now reading about PCL6 and Postscript and their relation to
> printers. So, as I have just discovered, printers supporting Postscript
> language are way more expensive than the ones I mentioned originally.
> The HL-5250DN is available here in Canada for $203.99 + tax. And the
> HL-2070N is for $171 + tax. If I look for a different printer which has
> a 10/100 base-TX connection and supports postscript, then the price
> jumps significantly!
> > >> In general, text output in Linux is Postscript by default; numerous >> other printer control languages are accommodated, but sometimes the >> process of accomodation becomes rather involved, and doesn't always >> work quite right. >> >> HP JetDirect is the generic name which HP uses for its ethernet >> interface, which typically is a plug-in module which can vary from one >> printer model to the next. >> >> My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with >> Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is >> well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate >> over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and >> making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other >> machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth >> anything. >
> I now understand your point very well. Had there been more money
> available, I would definitely have recommended as PS printer supporting
> networking. The Brother printers above support the network. I have the
> HL-2070N at my home connected to a switch and used by a Debian machine,
> a Ubuntu machine and a Windows machine without any problems. Installing
> the printer in Debian was a breeze. Windows is never a problem :) I know
> that is not Postscript, but so far it has worked very well. So I am
> expecting PCL6 shouldn't be a problem with 5250DN either.
>
> Your comments, however, have clarified a few doubts I had. Thanks.
>
> regards,
> ->HS
> > >> >> RLH >> >> > >
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:51:17 -0500 From: "Tim DeWall" <tdewall@itctel.com> To: "Andrew Sackville-West" <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>, <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Silly question: Where's eth0? Message-ID: <004701c815d7$fd259630$0500000a@tjscompaq> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Sackville-West" <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Silly question: Where's eth0?

Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:51:31 -0500 From: "Tim DeWall" <tdewall@itctel.com> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>, "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? Message-ID: <005801c815d8$075f8980$0500000a@tjscompaq> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:02 PM Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 05:53:00PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> >> My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with >> Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is >> well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate >> over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and >> making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other >> machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth >> anything. >
> Takes me about half an hour if the driver for the printer is in gs-gpl
> or gs-esp. I use standard lpd and apsfilter. If I need fancy access
> control then I use LPRng. If you don't mind brining in cupsys, you can
> use LPRng, foomatic-printfilters, and foomatic-GUI and do the setup that
> way. I've never done a full CUPS-only setup; never had the need.
>
> Then, its just opening the lpr port in the server's firewall.
> >
> Doug.
> >
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