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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2670

Today's Topics:

  Re: whats the need of files in /usr/  [ Kevin Mark  ]
  MACBook + USB-UMTS                    [ Michael Post  ]
  Re: How to set up cups-pdf as defaul  [ Avi Rozen  ]
  ping www.yahoo.co.uk - connect: Inva  [ "Charlie Grosvenor"  ]
  texlive no longer honours $TEXMFHOME  [ martin f krafft  ]
  Re: How to set up cups-pdf as defaul  [ Gabriel Parrondo  ]
  Re: cobol compiler/gui dev enviromen  [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Re: Keyboard mess after upgrading     [ Ron Johnson  ]

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:25:00 -0400
From: Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: whats the need of files in /usr/lib/apt/methods/*

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On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 12:05:49AM -0700, varun_shrivastava wrote:
>
> hi
>
> i am wondering that why some files like http gpgv etc are provided in apt
> package even if they are already present on the system.
>
> Are they required for proper functioning of apt or they are just plugins
> which can be safely removed
>
> similarly some information regarding requirement for following
> /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/*
> /usr/lib/dpkg/enoent
> /usr/lib/dpkg/dpkg-gettext.pl
> /usr/lib/dpkg/mksplit
> /usr/share/dpkg/ostable
> /usr/share/dpkg/cputable
> /usr/lib/libapt-inst-libc6.3-6.so.1.1.0
>
> thanks
> varun

I would suggest reading up on LFS. /usr/lib is for libraries, whereas

/bin,/sbin,/usr/bin,/usr/sbin are for binaries. So while apache2 is in
/usr/sbin/apache2, it has nothing to do with
/usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/*. /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/* are 'methods'

for apt/dpkg to use. the 'http' method is used to get info/data by the http method, its not related to a web server. It is not generally wise to delete files unless you know exactly what they do and why you do or don't need them. In this case, they are needed. But you are free to break your system as a learning exercise ;-)

-K

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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:07:09 -0700 From: Michael Post <michael.post@purematic.de> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: MACBook + USB-UMTS Message-ID: <1193213229.173014.62350@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo Listenbewohner, ich ben=C3=B6tige f=C3=BCr mein MacBook, auf dem das aktuellste Debian l=C3= =A4uft, eine UMTS-Karte mit Tarif. Was k=C3=B6nnt Ihr empfehlen? Leider hat das MacBook keinen PCMCIA-Slot und wenn ich das richtig sehe, dann kostet so ein Adapter auch gleich schlappe 150,00=E2=82=AC :-( Was f=C3=BCr UMTS-USB-Produkte k=C3=B6nnt Ihr empfehlen. Ich bin derzeit sc= hon t- mobile-kunde und m=C3=B6chte - sofern der Preis stimmt, gerne dabei bleiben. Wenn Ihr mir etwas anderes Empfehlen k=C3=B6nnt, was unter Debian mit USB l=C3=A4uft sehr gerne. Welche Erfahrungen habt Ihr schon gemacht? Vielen Dank Michael

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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:53:02 -0400 From: Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: MACBook + USB-UMTS Message-ID: <20071024085302.GP5471@horacrux> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 01:07:09AM -0700, Michael Post wrote:
> Hallo Listenbewohner,
>=20
> ich ben=C3=B6tige f=C3=BCr mein MacBook, auf dem das aktuellste Debian l=
=C3=A4uft,
> eine UMTS-Karte mit Tarif.
> Was k=C3=B6nnt Ihr empfehlen?
> Leider hat das MacBook keinen PCMCIA-Slot und wenn ich das richtig
> sehe, dann kostet so ein Adapter auch gleich schlappe 150,00=E2=82=AC :-(
>=20
> Was f=C3=BCr UMTS-USB-Produkte k=C3=B6nnt Ihr empfehlen. Ich bin derzeit =
schon t-
> mobile-kunde und m=C3=B6chte - sofern der Preis stimmt, gerne dabei
> bleiben. Wenn Ihr mir etwas anderes Empfehlen k=C3=B6nnt, was unter Debian
> mit USB l=C3=A4uft sehr gerne.
>=20
> Welche Erfahrungen habt Ihr schon gemacht?
>=20
> Vielen Dank
>=20
> Michael
Hi, while someone can answer you question in German, this is an english mailing list. If you want help only in German, look here at list.debian.org for a list in German. thanks, Kev --=20 | .''`. =3D=3D Debian GNU/Linux =3D=3D | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System | go to counter.li.org and | | `- http://www.debian.org/ | be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |_______ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed _______|

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:33:16 +0200 From: Avi Rozen <avi.rozen@mobileye.com> To: Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu> Cc: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: How to set up cups-pdf as default printer? Message-ID: <471F115C.5030005@mobileye.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> Recently hear that ubuntu 7.10 has a PDF printer enabled by default. I did some digging around and found that this was accomplished through the use of cups-pdf.
>
> So I went ahead and installed it using aptitude. Now, I can access the cups settings from http://localhost:631 but I don't see the a "pdf printer" there.
>
> There are no man pages for cups-pdf either. I am not too familiar with cups so I apologize if this question is quite trivial.
>
> This is one a debian etch system by the way.
>
> Thanks,
> Amit
> >
>
You need to add a new printer and then select the cups-pdf device. Try this for more info: less /usr/share/doc/cups-pdf/README.gz less /usr/share/doc/cups-pdf/README.Debian Cheers, Avi.

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:02:14 +0100 From: "Charlie Grosvenor" <charlie.grosvenor@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: ping www.yahoo.co.uk - connect: Invalid argument Message-ID: <428ce0c80710240302r34a4c4d3o5ec5619d01b254d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6216_2487766.1193220134065" ------=_Part_6216_2487766.1193220134065 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Does anybody know why I would get a response of connect: Invalid argument when I: ping www.yahoo.co.uk I also get this error when I run commands like apt-get upgrade. Thanks ------=_Part_6216_2487766.1193220134065 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div>Does anybody know why I would get a response of connect: Invalid argument when I: ping <a href="http://www.yahoo.co.uk/" target="_blank"> www.yahoo.co.uk</a> </div> <div>I also get this error when I run commands like apt-get upgrade.</div> <div> Thanks</div> ------=_Part_6216_2487766.1193220134065--

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:06:09 +0100 From: Jaime Ventura <jaimeventura@ipp.pt> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Trying to preseed nagios-mysql install Message-ID: <471F1911.5060908@ipp.pt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I'm trying to preseed nagios-mysql install. But but since at the time, the mysql server is stopped, the database creation failles and installation stops and waits for an answer. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? I mean, is there a way to install it with default values and without creating the database. My idea is to make a clean install and then restore data and configurations. So, creating the database or configuring nagios inst necessary at installations time. Thanks Jaime

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:25:48 +0200 From: martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org> To: debian users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: texlive no longer honours $TEXMFHOME? Message-ID: <20071024102438.GA31245@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c" Content-Disposition: inline --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, Since Debian started using texlive, I cannot get mktexlsr to index my personal texmf tree in ~/.etc/texmf. I have set $TEXMFHOME to this path (and also tried it with $HOME/texmf, which is the default), but when I run mktexlsr, it just skips the directory. The source of the problem seems to be kpsewhich: kpsewhich --show-path=3Dls-R this does not include $HOME at all. What am I doing wrong? How can I get kpsewhich --show-path=3Dls-R to honour $TEXMFHOME again? --=20 .''`. martin f. krafft <madduck@debian.org> : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems =20 "wer schmetterlinge lachen h=F6rt, der weiss wie wolken schmecken." -- freiherr friedrich von hardenberg --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="digital_signature_gpg.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/) Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHHx1mIgvIgzMMSnURAgbKAKCUwwHJkQLeDMNwHa6FQ4ZgKdkVZgCgtLZ8 hMhIJyHRRQ09K6AM6gEFGk8= =A5+q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c--

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:23:34 +0100 From: "Charlie Grosvenor" <charlie.grosvenor@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: ping www.yahoo.co.uk - connect: Invalid argument Message-ID: <428ce0c80710240323h22bdf683tb92feea08891cb7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Does anybody know why I would get a response of connect: Invalid argument when I: ping www.yahoo.co.uk I also get this error when I run commands like apt-get upgrade. Thanks

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:43:25 +0200 From: =?utf-8?q?Adri=C3=A1n_Ribao_Mart=C3=ADnez?= <aribao@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Keys changed in kde after upgrade Message-Id: <200710241243.25284.adrian@adrima.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I run a Debian sid in my laptop, and usually, I upgrade it almost every day. Today, after upgrading the system, all the keys where changed, in KDE and Gnome. Every time I press the up-arrow key, it opens knsapshot, and so on with the other keys. The distribution of the keys, and the keyboard type are exactly the same as the upgrade, configured with the right options. The only thing I did is an upgrade. Here is the log: hpijs (2.6.10+1.6.10-4.2) to 2.6.10+1.6.10-4.3 hpijs-ppds (2.6.10+1.6.10-4.2) to 2.6.10+1.6.10-4.3 hplip (1.6.10-4.2) to 1.6.10-4.3 hplip-data (1.6.10-4.2) to 1.6.10-4.3 k3b (1.0.3-2) to 1.0.3-3 kdelibs (4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2) to 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-3 kdelibs-data (4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2) to 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-3 kdelibs4c2a (4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2) to 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-3 klibc-utils (1.5.7-1) to 1.5.7-2 libdb4.5 (4.5.20-9) to 4.5.20-11 libdb4.6 (4.6.21-2) to 4.6.21-4 libdb4.6++ (4.6.21-2) to 4.6.21-4 libdbi-perl (1.59-1) to 1.601-1 libk3b3 (1.0.3-2) to 1.0.3-3 libklibc (1.5.7-1) to 1.5.7-2 libnm-util0 (0.6.5-2) to 0.6.5-3 libpango1.0-0 (1.18.2-2) to 1.18.3-1 libpango1.0-common (1.18.2-2) to 1.18.3-1 libportaudio2 (19+svn20070125-1) to 19+svn20071022-1 libt1-5 (5.1.1-1) to 5.1.1-1.1 ntp-doc (1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-1) to 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-2 ntpdate (1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-1) to 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-2 python-crypto (2.0.1+dfsg1-2) to 2.0.1+dfsg1-2.1 vorbis-tools (1.1.1-14) to 1.1.1-15 Now it's a pain to write or use the laptop, only the keys with letters are working. Does anyone know if it was a problem with the upgrade and how can I solve it? Thank you very much.

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:02:31 +0200 From: Matthias Feichtinger <asdf@vienna.at> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" <bg271828@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Silly question: Where's eth0? Message-Id: <200710241002.31644.asdf@vienna.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I had the same problem. The mistake was made while installing. It is not possible to change things, e.g. having to configure more than one ethernetcard. I made a script of my own need and everythings works as I wanted it to work. So, first man ifconfig, then man route and if needed, you might start your script with init.d. At next installing don't mention any NIC at all. The debian way to do is a kind of mystery. When there's enough time I will rebuild it. =2D- =46=C3=BCr die p.t.Leser: Die n=C3=A4chste Zeile enth=C3=A4lt alle Informat= ionen. LG=20 Matthias:-) =2E--. -.-- .-. --.. .-. .- ..-. ..- -. .... -.-. --. .--- ...- .-. .- ...-= .- .- .-. . .-. ..-. --. -. --.- --. .... .- --.- .-.. -.- .--. .. --- .-. ...- = =2E. ...- .-. .- .- -. --.- -... --. -. --.

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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:19:47 +0200 From: =?utf-8?q?Adri=C3=A1n_Ribao_Mart=C3=ADnez?= <aribao@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Keys changed in kde after upgrade Message-Id: <200710241319.48324.adrian@adrima.es> Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I run a Debian sid in my laptop, and usually, I upgrade it almost every day. Today, after upgrading the system, all the keys where changed, in KDE and Gnome. Every time I press the up-arrow key, it opens knsapshot, and so on with the other keys. The distribution of the keys, and the keyboard type are exactly the same as the upgrade, configured with the right options. The only thing I did is an upgrade. Here is the log: hpijs (2.6.10+1.6.10-4.2) to 2.6.10+1.6.10-4.3 hpijs-ppds (2.6.10+1.6.10-4.2) to 2.6.10+1.6.10-4.3 hplip (1.6.10-4.2) to 1.6.10-4.3 hplip-data (1.6.10-4.2) to 1.6.10-4.3 k3b (1.0.3-2) to 1.0.3-3 kdelibs (4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2) to 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-3 kdelibs-data (4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2) to 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-3 kdelibs4c2a (4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2) to 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-3 klibc-utils (1.5.7-1) to 1.5.7-2 libdb4.5 (4.5.20-9) to 4.5.20-11 libdb4.6 (4.6.21-2) to 4.6.21-4 libdb4.6++ (4.6.21-2) to 4.6.21-4 libdbi-perl (1.59-1) to 1.601-1 libk3b3 (1.0.3-2) to 1.0.3-3 libklibc (1.5.7-1) to 1.5.7-2 libnm-util0 (0.6.5-2) to 0.6.5-3 libpango1.0-0 (1.18.2-2) to 1.18.3-1 libpango1.0-common (1.18.2-2) to 1.18.3-1 libportaudio2 (19+svn20070125-1) to 19+svn20071022-1 libt1-5 (5.1.1-1) to 5.1.1-1.1 ntp-doc (1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-1) to 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-2 ntpdate (1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-1) to 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-2 python-crypto (2.0.1+dfsg1-2) to 2.0.1+dfsg1-2.1 vorbis-tools (1.1.1-14) to 1.1.1-15 Now it's a pain to write or use the laptop, only the keys with letters are working. Does anyone know if it was a problem with the upgrade and how can I solve it? Thank you very much.

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:36:10 -0400 From: Scott Lair <scott@lairhome.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? Message-ID: <20071024123609.GA24283@webmail.lairhome.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 07:32:22PM -0400, H.S. wrote:
>
> > Now, Eric mentioned memory in his post. I can understand that since
> > sometimes the 2070N at my home takes quite a while to print a page with
> > graphics in it (it has 16MB RAM). HL-5250DN comes with 32MB. How does
> > that sound? It also has an empty slot to accommodate 64MB, 128MB, 256MB
> > or 512MB (144-pin DIMM).
> >
>
> The way I look at it is this: Ghostscript sends the printer a graphic,
> bitmapped with PCL 6.
>
> So, a whole page at 600x600 dpi x 8.5" x 11" = 33660000 bits
>
> 33660000 b / 8 b/B = 4207500 B / 1024 = 4108 KB / 1024 = 4 MB
>
> So thats 4 MB per page for the image data itself, 8 MB to hold two
> sides, plus whatever for control info (PCL wrapping). If it has 16 MB,
> it can be printing two sides while it receives the data for the next two
> pages.
>
> If you were to be using the built-in font system whereby you sent it
> plain text and it translated it into your selection of fonts that you
> donwload to it, that would take up a whole slew of memory. Ditto if you
> used built-in forms. Neither of which applies if you're just using
> ghostscript.
>
> Doug.
I think the HL-5250DN does have postscript built in. Brother calls it BR-Script which appears to be their postscript emulation. I have an 8840DN multifunction unit and have printed to it using the foomatic/postscript driver in cups for a lexmark printer. I print the port 9100 on the printer. Maybe Br-script isn't "real" postscript, I really don't know.

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:18:18 -0300 From: Gabriel Parrondo <g.parrondo@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How to set up cups-pdf as default printer? Message-Id: <1193231898.25865.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vWZ3W8qf4wUcAF+Nrm3T" --=-vWZ3W8qf4wUcAF+Nrm3T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El mi=C3=A9, 24-10-2007 a las 11:33 +0200, Avi Rozen escribi=C3=B3:
> Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
>=20
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > Recently hear that ubuntu 7.10 has a PDF printer enabled by default. I =
did some digging around and found that this was accomplished through the us= e of cups-pdf.
> >
> > So I went ahead and installed it using aptitude. Now, I can access the =
cups settings from http://localhost:631 but I don't see the a "pdf printer"= there.
> >
> > There are no man pages for cups-pdf either. I am not too familiar with =
cups so I apologize if this question is quite trivial.
> >
> > This is one a debian etch system by the way.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Amit
> >
> >
> > =20
> You need to add a new printer and then select the cups-pdf device.
>=20
> Try this for more info:
> less /usr/share/doc/cups-pdf/README.gz
zcat /usr/share/doc/cups-pdf/README.gz | less
> [...]
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:03:58 +0200 From: "Adrian Ribao" <aribao@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Keyboard mess after upgrading Message-ID: <a0ca6aa90710240603x31fe3b61u70da390731bd5ae9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7558_14561048.1193231038840" ------=_Part_7558_14561048.1193231038840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I run a Debian sid in my laptop, and usually, I upgrade it almost every day. Today, after upgrading the system, all the keys where changed, in KDE and Gnome. Every time I press the up-arrow key, it opens knsapshot, and so on with the other keys. The distribution of the keys, and the keyboard type are exactly the same as the upgrade, configured with the right options. The only thing I did is an upgrade. Here is the log: hpijs (2.6.10+1.6.10-4.2) to 2.6.10+1.6.10-4.3 hpijs-ppds (2.6.10+1.6.10-4.2) to 2.6.10+1.6.10-4.3 hplip (1.6.10-4.2) to 1.6.10-4.3 hplip-data (1.6.10-4.2) to 1.6.10-4.3 k3b (1.0.3-2) to 1.0.3-3 kdelibs (4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2) to 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-3 kdelibs-data (4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2) to 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-3 kdelibs4c2a (4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2) to 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-3 klibc-utils (1.5.7-1) to 1.5.7-2 libdb4.5 (4.5.20-9) to 4.5.20-11 libdb4.6 (4.6.21-2) to 4.6.21-4 libdb4.6++ (4.6.21-2) to 4.6.21-4 libdbi-perl (1.59-1) to 1.601-1 libk3b3 (1.0.3-2) to 1.0.3-3 libklibc (1.5.7-1) to 1.5.7-2 libnm-util0 (0.6.5-2) to 0.6.5-3 libpango1.0-0 (1.18.2-2) to 1.18.3-1 libpango1.0-common (1.18.2-2) to 1.18.3-1 libportaudio2 (19+svn20070125-1) to 19+svn20071022-1 libt1-5 (5.1.1-1) to 5.1.1-1.1 ntp-doc (1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-1) to 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-2 ntpdate (1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-1) to 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-2 python-crypto (2.0.1+dfsg1-2) to 2.0.1+dfsg1-2.1 vorbis-tools (1.1.1-14) to 1.1.1-15 Now it's a pain to write or use the laptop, only the keys with letters are working. Does anyone know if it was a problem with the upgrade and how can I solve it? Thank you very much. ------=_Part_7558_14561048.1193231038840 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I run a Debian sid in my laptop, and usually, I upgrade it almost every day. Today, after upgrading the system, all the keys where changed, in KDE and Gnome. Every time I press the up-arrow key, it opens knsapshot, and so on with the other keys. The distribution of the keys, and the keyboard type are exactly the same as the upgrade, configured with the right options. The only thing I did is an upgrade. Here is the log: hpijs (2.6.10+1.6.10-4.2 ) to 2.6.10+1.6.10-4.3 hpijs-ppds (2.6.10+1.6.10-4.2) to 2.6.10+1.6.10-4.3 hplip (1.6.10-4.2) to 1.6.10-4.3 hplip-data (1.6.10-4.2) to 1.6.10-4.3 k3b (1.0.3-2) to 1.0.3-3 kdelibs (4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2) to 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-3 kdelibs-data (4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2) to 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-3 kdelibs4c2a (4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2) to 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-3 klibc-utils (1.5.7-1) to 1.5.7-2 libdb4.5 (4.5.20-9) to 4.5.20-11 libdb4.6 (4.6.21-2) to 4.6.21-4 libdb4.6++ (4.6.21-2) to 4.6.21-4 libdbi-perl (1.59-1) to 1.601-1 libk3b3 (1.0.3-2) to 1.0.3-3 libklibc (1.5.7-1) to 1.5.7-2 libnm-util0 (0.6.5-2) to 0.6.5-3 libpango1.0-0 (1.18.2-2) to 1.18.3-1 libpango1.0-common (1.18.2-2) to 1.18.3-1 libportaudio2 (19+svn20070125-1) to 19+svn20071022-1 libt1-5 (5.1.1-1) to 5.1.1-1.1 ntp-doc (1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-1) to 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-2 ntpdate (1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-1) to 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-2 python-crypto ( 2.0.1+dfsg1-2) to 2.0.1+dfsg1-2.1 vorbis-tools (1.1.1-14) to 1.1.1-15 Now it's a pain to write or use the laptop, only the keys with letters are working. Does anyone know if it was a problem with the upgrade and how can I solve it? Thank you very much. ------=_Part_7558_14561048.1193231038840--

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:24:40 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: cobol compiler/gui dev enviroment Message-ID: <471F4798.2090105@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/23/07 22:11, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 08:34:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 10/23/07 20:08, David Fox wrote: >>> On 10/23/07, Chris Parker <chris_parker@adelphia.net> wrote: >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> Does anyone know of a good cobol compiler and gui development >>>> enviroment? I have seen open-cobol as a compiler, but was wondering if >>>> anyone has any other recommendations? >>> >>> I've not yet heard of an open cobol, seems that it might be >>> interesting. Last I checked, there was >>> a tiny cobol compiler that I got somewhere on the net but don't have >>> it anymore and can't remember where I got it. >> Correct. COBOL* is so complicated a language, and so anti-geeky, >> that no one has really had an itch to create a full COBOL >> environment. You'll have to pony up the coin for a commercial compiler. >> >> * And it's soulmate PL/I.
>
> I'll bite: why do you need COBOL? You've go C, Fortran, and Ada in
Because apps written in COBOL are highly portable across platforms.
> gcc, plus Python (interpreted). IIUC, the philosophy behind COBOL is
> that non-programmers can at least read it to understand what is
That bit of stupidness went out the window decades ago.
> happening. You can achieve that with Python if you're careful. Also, I
> believe its one of the minor goals of Ada.
>
> Of course, if you _need_ a COBOL compiler, you _need_ COBOL. It seems
> that OpenCOBOL traslates COBOL to C and then compiles that with gcc.
I'd hate to see that C code. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHH0eYS9HxQb37XmcRAkLcAKCmPQvqi+eXwrGEcEmNF677YnaSjwCff9m9 fO9zG2lsHlzZp7gh4FLvp0c= =1lPS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:27:46 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Keyboard mess after upgrading Message-ID: <471F4852.8010209@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/24/07 08:03, Adrian Ribao wrote:
> Hello, I run a Debian sid in my laptop, and usually, I upgrade it
> almost every day. Today, after upgrading the system, all the keys
> where changed, in KDE and Gnome. Every time I press the up-arrow
> key, it opens knsapshot, and so on with the other keys. The
> distribution of the keys, and the keyboard type are exactly the
> same as the upgrade, configured with the right options. The only
> thing I did is an upgrade. Here is the log:
>
> hpijs (2.6.10+1.6.10-4.2) to 2.6.10+1.6.10-4.3
[snip]
> vorbis-tools (1.1.1-14) to 1.1.1-15
>
> Now it's a pain to write or use the laptop, only the keys with
> letters are working. Does anyone know if it was a problem with
> the upgrade and how can I solve it? Thank you very much.
What locale and "language keyboard" do you have? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHH0hSS9HxQb37XmcRAp4wAJsH0yrsFUtyuXQRUQuhz+xcQDCWEQCeKSxP Uuc51x+9S0DRog6Ww1sUyGU= =GFsE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2670 ************************************************** Received on Wed Oct 24 10:05:23 2007

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