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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2677

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Silly question: Where's eth0? (f  [ "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum"  ]
  file system on / grew over night?     [ mmiller3@iupui.edu (Michael A. Mill ]
  mouse emulation with X                [ xpol  ]
  boot process hangs on init of mysqld  [ debian-guy@agileitinc.com ]
  Re: 1GB RAM is missing.               [ pietia  ]
  About bluez-pin package               [ Rodolfo Medina  ]
  Re: cobol compiler/gui dev enviromen  [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  Re: boot process hangs on init of my  [ debian-guy@agileitinc.com ]

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:57:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" <bg271828@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Silly question: Where's eth0? (followup) 

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I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my questoin. Fortunately or unfortunately i was forced to reboot the machine for other reasons, and upon rebooting eth0 was there. Repeated suspends had no effect, i.e. eth0 was still there (meaning that suspending isnt what caused it to vanish).

Since i cant repeat the problem i dont know what to do to try and solve it. But i am keeping the messages around so that if it does happen again i will be ready.

Thank you!

Do you need help?X

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:54:13 +0800
From: Michael Yang <michael.yxf@gmail.com> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>,

        debian-chinese-gb@lists.debian.org
Subject: Set up fcitx in VNC ? 

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Hi All:

I want to access my linux box with vncserver installed - Debian lenny/sid But I couldn't use my fcitx in vncviewer, the CTRL_SPACE key is conflicted with the windows input methods.

I have installed the vnc4server and vnc-common package, the xstartup script is as follows: 

#!/bin/sh
# Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop:
# unset SESSION_MANAGER
# exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc

[ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey
startxfce4&
export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8
export XMODIFIERS="@im=fcitx"
export XIM=fcitx
export XIM_PROGRAM=fcitx
export GTK_IM_MODULE=xim
export QT_IM_MODULE=xim
fcitx&

Could anybody give any leads to set it up correctly?

Do you need more help?X

Appreciated for your helps.

Thanks.
- Michael

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:00:39 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: cobol compiler/gui dev enviroment 

Message-ID: <4720A187.6050809@cox.net>

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On 10/25/07 08:01, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 09:56:03PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

>> On 10/24/07 18:03, Chris Parker wrote:
>>> Thanks for the responses.  We do now use microfocus, but that is running
>>> on SCO.  I was looking for a Linux version less expensive.  Licensing
>>> for Microfocus on Linux is $500,000 for everything.  This is too keep
>>> from having to go to Windows environment.
>> $500,000???  There's a lot of "everything" that you're not telling
>> us about.  Dozens of developer seats, thousands of CALs, "gold"
>> service contract, etc?
>>
>> Is it that much more expensive than the SCO or Windows license?

>
> Which certainly changes the potential answers to the "why COBOL"
> question I asked that was never answered by the OP.

Probably because they have a ton of code already written in COBOL. Certainly it would cost more than $500K to port (and debug) all that code to another language.

Besides, for the problem sets that COBOL is aimed at, it's a damned sight better than anything else out (there except maybe PL/I).

  • -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:08:14 -0400
From: mmiller3@iupui.edu (Michael A. Miller) To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: file system on / grew over night? Message-ID: <87y7drnv75.fsf@lumen.indyrad.iupui.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I came in this morning to find that the / filesystem on a machine is at 100%. This is on a stable machine installed with one partition as per the installer suggestions. I've cleared off enough space to be able to get log in and find that the disk seems full:

/dev/hda1 71G 65G 3.0G 96% /

But when I du to find out what caused it, I can only find 47 GB in use. So it seems that something happened to create 18 GB that I cannot find. Does anyone have suggestions as to how to trouble shoot this?

Thanks, Mike

Don't know where to look next?X

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:16:31 +0200
From: xpol <linux_milano@yahoo.it>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: mouse emulation with X 

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How to move the pointer across the screen, using keyobard combinations? I remember there were X deafult keys. Any hints? How to customize keys?

Thank you 

--
Pol

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:17:58 -0600 From: debian-guy@agileitinc.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: boot process hangs on init of mysqld Message-ID: <20071025081758.iei82defscswo40g@www.agileitinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When my boot process starts mysqld, it hangs. How can I get it unstuck? I cannot ssh into the machine because the boot process hasn't progressed far enough. So, I cannot edit the init scripts to remove mysqld. Is there some key-stroke sequence I might be able to try to interrupt the init.d scripts? I've tried the obvious (ctl-C, ctl-D, etc.) FYI, the hardware is a Dell PowerEdge 1750. Thanks for any help, Mark

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:13:43 +0200 From: pietia <pietia.moo@gmail.com> To: Wakko Warner <wakko@animx.eu.org> Cc: pgega <gega.pawel@gmail.com>, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 1GB RAM is missing. Message-ID: <4720A497.6040902@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wakko Warner pisze:
> pgega wrote:
>
> Please do not top post.
>
>
>> I just installed AMD64 Debian, put 4th RAM stick, but new sysytem does >> not see the memory, even if I set mem=3900M in grub. >> >> I completly do not know what to do now. >> >
> I'm using i386 debian with a custom kernel. I'm running on xeon dual core
> processors. I did not set mem= on anything, but I do have the kernel
> compiled for 64gb ram. Using 2.6.23 and I notice no slowdowns having 4gb of
> ram.
>
hi Maybe it's issue of ram sticks - if one alone works and there are problems with dual channel ?

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:36:02 +0200 From: Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: About bluez-pin package Message-ID: <87hckf8dnx.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii With Sarge there was a package named bluez-pin, not available in Etch. Does anyone know what will the correspondent Etch package be? I wish to pair my phone with the PC without any desktop applets. Thanks Rodolfo

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:48:18 +0200 From: Micha Feigin <michf@post.tau.ac.il> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: xkb settings messed up, seems to be two keyboards installed Message-ID: <20071025164818.531d66a0@vivalunalitshi.luna.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:13:13 -0400 Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:57:20 +0200
> Micha Feigin <michf@post.tau.ac.il> wrote:
>
> > I have two keymaps that I used to switch between with xkb alt_shift_toggle.
> > At some point it stopped working. xfce xkb applet shows that the keyboard is
> > switching but it doesn't do anything, sometimes it decides to start
> > switching between US and en_US instead of IL. setxkbmap does change the
> > keyboard.
>
> [snip]
>
> I've had trouble with the xfce applet with a very similar setup;
> removing the applet solved my problem. Do you see the same problem
> without the applet?
>
The applet doesn't seem to be the problem. It looks like I had the evdev driver loaded without configuring a keyboard and it thus decided to configure the keyboard by itself.
> [One sign I had that the applet is buggy is that it would frequently
> show "Null" for my alternate layout instead of the image it was
> supposed to display.]
>
> Celejar
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:59:24 -0400 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: cobol compiler/gui dev enviroment Message-ID: <20071025145924.GA6898@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 09:00:39AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 10/25/07 08:01, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 09:56:03PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 10/24/07 18:03, Chris Parker wrote:
> >>> Thanks for the responses. We do now use microfocus, but that is running
> >>> on SCO. I was looking for a Linux version less expensive. Licensing
> >>> for Microfocus on Linux is $500,000 for everything. This is too keep
> >>> from having to go to Windows environment.
> >> $500,000??? There's a lot of "everything" that you're not telling
> >> us about. Dozens of developer seats, thousands of CALs, "gold"
> >> service contract, etc?
> >>
> >> Is it that much more expensive than the SCO or Windows license?
> >
> > Which certainly changes the potential answers to the "why COBOL"
> > question I asked that was never answered by the OP.
>
> Probably because they have a ton of code already written in COBOL.
> Certainly it would cost more than $500K to port (and debug) all that
> code to another language.
Agreed.
>
> Besides, for the problem sets that COBOL is aimed at, it's a damned
> sight better than anything else out (there except maybe PL/I).
Ada seems to do a better job in any domain where its been tried. The code is more reliable (since the compiler catches so many mistakes that would otherwise show up at runtime as bugs sometime down the road). Doug.

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:48:38 -0500 (CDT) From: westk@goshen.acu.edu To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: mouse emulation with X Message-ID: <49358.150.252.148.92.1193323718.squirrel@goshen.acu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> How to move the pointer across the screen, using keyobard combinations?
> I remember there were X deafult keys. Any hints?
> How to customize keys?
>
> Thank you
> Shift-Numlock should turn your numeric keypad into a "mouse". I don't recall the clicks off-hand, but the pointer will move with the 1-9 keys except for the 5, which I believe is the click. Some of the keys at top, IIRC, convert the click to a left-, middle-, or right-click. I believe th= e keys at the bottom are a click-and-hold and click-and-release. I have no idea how to customize the keys. Shift-Numlock again will return your keypad to normal function. --=20 Kent

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:03:09 -0700 From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: aptitude upgrade through proxy Message-id: <20071025150309.GA3771@alpaca> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:51:44PM -0600, Javier Vasquez <jevv.cr@gmail.com> was heard to say:
> I've used http_proxy/ftp_proxy to enable apt-get to download packages
> through a proxy server whenever required.
>
> However I've tried the same environment variables with aptitude with
> no luck... Looks like aptitude doesn't pay attention to them. Does
> any one know how to overcome this? Also, I liked the environment
> variables solution because it can be temporally enabled/disabled,
> without having to edit a config file everytime one wants to change...
> I've tried looking in the man page, but didn't find anything...
How are you running aptitude and apt-get (command-lines)? In particular, are you running aptitude as a user and then automatically su-ing to root? I wouldn't be 100% confident that this preserves environment variables. Other than that, I'm not sure what could be happening: aptitude doesn't clear out the environment, and the code that reads http_proxy is used in both aptitude and apt-get. Daniel

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:59:21 -0700 From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> To: Telly Williams <twilliams001@elp.rr.com> Cc: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Can't Remove Files Message-id: <20071025145921.GA24683@alpaca> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 04:56:39PM -0600, Telly Williams <twilliams001@elp.rr.com> was heard to say:
> I mounted to device as: "mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 /mnt/usbdisk".
> I tried mounting as "-t usbfs" but I only got four files in
> there: 001, 002, 003, devices. I also manually unmounted and
> then mounted with the "-o rw" option, but no dice.
It looks like your USB device has gotten corrupted (did you pull it out without unmounting first?). I would suggest running "fsck -r /dev/sde1" to fix the problems -- you might lose some files, but odds are they aren't accessible any more anyway. Daniel

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:26:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Christian <keithchristian@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: boot process hangs on init of mysqld Message-ID: <713146.84568.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ----- Original Message ---- From: "debian-guy@agileitinc.com" <debian-guy@agileitinc.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:17:58 AM Subject: boot process hangs on init of mysqld When my boot process starts mysqld, it hangs. How can I get it unstuck? I cannot ssh into the machine because the boot process hasn't progressed far enough. So, I cannot edit the init scripts to remove mysqld. Is there some key-stroke sequence I might be able to try to interrupt the init.d scripts? I've tried the obvious (ctl-C, ctl-D, etc.) You'll want to boot into "single user" mode. Try these steps: 1. Boot the machine --- be ready at the console keyboard to press "e" as in step 2 below. 2. At the GNU GRUB screen, press "e" within 1 - 2 seconds to stop the boot process, to edit the kernel's boot parameters. 3. Press the down arrow key to highlight the line that looks similar to the following: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2-6.18-4-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro 4. With the highlight on that line, press "e" once again. 5. Screen changes to one where the line can be edited (See "Minmal BASH-like line editing is supported", and a prompt "grub edit >".) 6. The cursor is at the end of the line, type "single" (the line now reads thus:) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2-6.18-4-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro single 7. Press the Return key. 8. The GNU GRUB screen reappears, press "b" to boot the system. 9. See a few screens of kernel messages, then a prompt "(or type Control-D to continue:)" 10. Type the root password (if you type Control-D, the boot process continues as if you weren't booting into single user mode.) 11. See a # shell prompt. Make changes to the init scripts - you may want to do this with the update-rc.d utility, for help, type man update-rc.d 12. When done with changes to the init script links, type "exit" at the # prompt, and the machine continues the boot process as usual. ======Keith

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:33:18 -0500 From: Michael Shuler <michael@pbandjelly.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: DNS CNAME question Message-ID: <4720B73E.8070501@pbandjelly.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/25/2007 07:51 AM, Rogelio wrote:
> Not sure if this is the best place to ask this question (and if so,
> please point me to a better listserv), but is there anything "wrong" RFC
> or best practice wise with pointing a CNAME record to a DNS server?
>
> (I'm using EveryDNS.net, and I'd like to make my CNAME records
> ns1->4.myDomain.com <http://4.myDomain.com> correspond to
> ns1->ns4.EveryDNS.net.)
While aliasing your name servers might work, it also may not, depending on the various DNS server software implementations and configurations around the planet. With that in mind, aliasing your name servers introduces a high probability of problematic DNS resolution, query failure, and "improper" authority. RFC 1034 [0] 4.2.1. Technical considerations: "One of the goals of the zone structure is that any zone have all the data required to set up communications with the name servers for any subzones. That is, parent zones have all the information needed to access servers for their children zones. The NS RRs that name the servers for subzones are often not enough for this task since they name the servers, but do not give their addresses. In particular, if the name of the name server is itself in the subzone, we could be faced with the situation where the NS RRs tell us that in order to learn a name server's address, we should contact the server using the address we wish to learn. To fix this problem, a zone contains "glue" RRs which are not part of the authoritative data, and are address RRs for the servers." If you alias to some other zone, then you potentially run into a state of gluelessness - expect issues and possibly failures. By using aliases for your NS hosts, you have intentionally moved full resolution of your zone records, as well as those zones dependent on your name servers outside of the ability to have all the data they need in the current authority chain. In addition, a glue record can never be an alias, as this completely defeats the entire purpose of seeding the authority chain. See section 6 of RFC 1034 for details on authority. RFC 1035 [1] 3.3.11. NS RDATA format "NSDNAME A <domain-name> which specifies a host which should be authoritative for the specified class and domain. The NS RR states that the named host should be expected to have a zone starting at owner name of the specified class." NS records should point to a *host* - a host is an A record: 3.2.2. TYPE values "A 1 a host address" If you alias your NS records to some other name server hosts, then your name server will be intentionally stating, "I don't have the expected information you are asking for - go somewhere else and ask..." - expect issues and possibly failures. ============================== OK, enough with RFCs and on to my opinion... >From experience in running large-scale DNS services, the only "real" reason for doing what you wish to do, when you strip out the seemingly logical justifications for doing so, is vanity... You wish to appear to the world, or your vhost customers, or for whatever reason you may have, as personally performing your own DNS services and maintaining a larger infrastructure than you really have. Use the proper NS hosts of the DNS service provider that you are actually using - give them the credit for providing you (in the case of everydns.net, for free (have you donated?)) a robust DNS setup, and have your customers use the proper everydns.net NS hosts, if this is the case. Glue records, authority chaining, forward/reverse records of those in authority, etc. will all be "proper", and you give public props, via whois database entries, to the folks that are actually providing the service and servers you are using. If you absolutely must have vanity NS records pointing to someone else's hosts, they must be A records, and you must provide glue at the TLD name server, if you are using your own vanity NS names for your own domain. Expect serious issues when everydns.net needs to move IP addresses. -- Kind Regards, Michael Shuler [0] http://www.rfc-archive.org/getrfc.php?rfc=1034 [1] http://www.rfc-archive.org/getrfc.php?rfc=1035

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:15:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jeff Grossman" <jeff@stikman.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Sendmail Problem Message-ID: <61893.72.166.138.2.1193328937.squirrel@www.stikman.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just set up a Debian system using testing as the source. I moved from = a Gentoo Linux system. I installed Sendmail. I am able to send and receiv= e e-mail outside of this box with no problems. But, cron is not able to send any e-mails from within the box. Here is the error message: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- jeff (reason: 530 5.7.0 Authentication required) (expanded from: jeff) It wants to authenticate local mail to local users. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jeff

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:17:22 -0600 From: debian-guy@agileitinc.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: boot process hangs on init of mysqld Message-ID: <20071025101722.6dkft85kfco0ws80@69.89.31.109> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Keith! Unfortunately, this machine uses Lilo instead of Grub. =20 Can something similar be done to enter 'single user mode' when booting =20 using Lilo? -- Mark Quoting Keith Christian <keithchristian@yahoo.com>:
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "debian-guy@agileitinc.com" <debian-guy@agileitinc.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:17:58 AM
> Subject: boot process hangs on init of mysqld
>
> When my boot process starts mysqld, it hangs. How can I get it
> unstuck? I cannot ssh into the machine because the boot process
> hasn't progressed far enough. So, I cannot edit the init scripts to
> remove mysqld.
>
> Is there some key-stroke sequence I might be able to try to interrupt
> the init.d scripts? I've tried the obvious (ctl-C, ctl-D, etc.)
> > >
> You'll want to boot into "single user" mode. Try these steps:
>
> 1. Boot the machine --- be ready at the console keyboard to press =20
> "e" as in step 2 below.
>
> 2. At the GNU GRUB screen, press "e" within 1 - 2 seconds to stop =20
> the boot process, to edit the kernel's boot parameters.
>
> 3. Press the down arrow key to highlight the line that looks similar =20
> to the following:
>
> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2-6.18-4-686 root=3D/dev/hda1 ro
>
> 4. With the highlight on that line, press "e" once again.
>
> 5. Screen changes to one where the line can be edited (See "Minmal =20
> BASH-like line editing is supported", and a prompt "grub edit >".)
>
> 6. The cursor is at the end of the line, type "single" (the line now =20
> reads thus:)
>
> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2-6.18-4-686 root=3D/dev/hda1 ro single
>
> 7. Press the Return key.
>
> 8. The GNU GRUB screen reappears, press "b" to boot the system.
>
> 9. See a few screens of kernel messages, then a prompt "(or type =20
> Control-D to continue:)"
>
> 10. Type the root password (if you type Control-D, the boot process =20
> continues as if you weren't booting into single user mode.)
>
> 11. See a # shell prompt. Make changes to the init scripts - you =20
> may want to do this with the update-rc.d utility, for help, type
>
> man update-rc.d
>
> 12. When done with changes to the init script links, type "exit" at =20
> the # prompt, and the machine continues the boot process as usual.
> >
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DKeith
> >
> --
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