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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2680

Today's Topics: 

  Re: file system on / grew over night  [ Owen Heisler  ]
  Re: 1GB RAM is missing.               [ Pasi Oja-Nisula  ]
  Re: Silly question: Where's eth0?     [ Joe  ]
  Re: Silly question: Where's eth0?     [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  Re: wireles /wpa_supplicant - where   [ =?utf-8?q?Adri=C3=A1n_Ribao_Mart=C3 ]
  Re: 1GB RAM is missing.               [ Wakko Warner  ]
  Open Office 2.0 Writer craks          [ Pantor 
  Re: Web cam Philips 0471:032d not se  [ Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwe ]
  Debian Sid, Xorg - mouse doesn't wor  [ MRH <misiek_spam@o2.pl> ]



Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:09:39 -0500


From: Owen Heisler <owenh000@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: file system on / grew over night?
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On Thu, 2007.10.25 10:08, Michael A. Miller wrote:

> I came in this morning to find that the / filesystem on a machine
> is at 100%. This is on a stable machine installed with one
> partition as per the installer suggestions.  I've cleared off
> enough space to be able to get log in and find that the disk
> seems full:=20
>=20

> /dev/hda1              71G   65G  3.0G  96% /

>=20


> But when I du to find out what caused it, I can only find 47 GB
> in use.  So it seems that something happened to create 18 GB that
> I cannot find.  Does anyone have suggestions as to how to trouble
> shoot this?
Do you need help?X

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lsof | grep deleted



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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:35:49 +0300


From: Pasi Oja-Nisula <pon@iki.fi>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

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Do you need more help?X

On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 04:04:59PM -0000, pgega wrote:

> I just installed AMD64 Debian, put 4th RAM stick, but new sysytem does
> not see the memory, even if I set mem=3900M in grub.

Well, the mem-parameter is mainly used in limiting the available memory,
not the other way round. I would use that after you see all the 
memory, but the system is still slow. 



I don't think that you have mentioned your graphics card yet. 
As someone mentioned, at least in 32 bit world that memory is
taken away from memory under 4GB. That might not be your problem,
but something related to bios might very well be. I would concentrate the
effort to this before going on with the operating system. It might
be helpful to also search Windows users experiences with 4GB on
that motherboard. 



I was going to say that while you have tested all ram modules
separately, maybe the fourth ram socket on motherboard is faulty.
But I understand that the problem (slow boot etc) occurs only
when the fourth socket is occupied, but the bios reports the
same amount of available memory? 



Pasi



Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:48:39 +0100


From: Joe <joe@jretrading.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Silly question: Where's eth0?

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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 07:00:39PM -0700, francisco wrote:
>> El mi??, 24-10-2007 a las 10:11 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty escribi??:
>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 10:02:31AM +0200, Matthias Feichtinger wrote:
>>>> I had the same problem.
>>>> The mistake was made while installing.
>>>> It is not possible to change things, e.g. having to configure more
>>>> than one ethernetcard.
>>>> I made a script of my own need and everythings works as I wanted it

Can't find what you're looking for?X

>>>> to work. So, first man ifconfig, then man route and if needed, you might
>>>> start your script with init.d.
>>>> At next installing don't mention any NIC at all. The debian way to do
>>>> is a kind of mystery. When there's enough time I will rebuild it.
>>> Are you seriously telling people that you can't add a NIC to Debian
>>> without re-installing?  Get a life.
>>>
>>> Now, if you're using some pointy-clicky lindows thingy, perhaps.  Get
>>> rid of it.  
>>>
>>> udev should find all your hardware.  If you find it doesn't, do the
>>> old-fashioned method.  Find the right module (read the kernel-docs, read
>>> the chips on your NIC, match them up), and insmod it.  If you need
>>> parameters its easier (if you want a bit of a GUI) to install modconf
>>> which will ask for the parameters and put them in the right place.
>>>
>>> Your module name would go under /etc/modules and be loaded at each boot.
>>>
>>> Once you have an eth* you can then go ahead and put it in
>>> /etc/network/interfaces.
>>>
>>> Done.
>>>
>>> The Debian way isn't a mistery.  Read the debian-manual, man pages, and
>>> if necessary, ask here.  
>>>
>> Could you, forget the theoretical explanation and show it by a simple
>> example? i have the same problem, and it can not be solve by ifconfig,
>> iwconfig, route and others. Broadcom card 4311, Compaq Presario v3019US.
>>


> 
> 1.
> 	Looking in
> 	/usr/share/doc/linux-doc-2.6.18/Documentation/networking/ \
> 	bcm43xx.txt.gz it says its for Broadcom BCM43xx chips.
> 
> 	It mentions needing a firmware file.  I'm assuming this is some
> 	wireless stuff that I know diddly about.  
> 
> 	To me, either a driver works or it doesn't.  
> 
> 2.
> 	aptitude search ~dbroadcom
> 	shows up bcm43xx-fwcutter
> 
> 3.	Both places refer the reader to http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
> 
> 4.	It says that the page won't be updated anymore, to go to
> 	http://linuxwireless.org
> 
> 	Which doesn't seem to help any.
> 
> 
> Since I don't have a wireless card, there's no reason for me to install
> bcm43xx-fwcutter.
> 
> It seems that the linux driver for your card requires that you steal the
> firmware from another driver and stick it into the linux driver.  Good
> luck with that.
> 
> Now, if you actually had a piece of hardware that _was_ fully supported
> by the linux kernel without this mess, then you would get a functioning
> eth0 which would then work just fine with the standard Debian networking
> tools.  
> 
> In short, your problem isn't with the networking tools, its with a
> non-functional driver.
> 


Looks like my last post didn't make it here. I had a solid, dependable 
working MB NIC until a couple of weeks ago, when Sid suddenly started 
renaming it to eth1 during boot (without explanation) and then saying 
eth0 didn't exist. I didn't notice (not exactly the kind of thing you 
expect), disabled it and installed a PCI card, then when that didn't 
work, had to alter my interfaces file to eth1. I think the MB NIC is 
probably not faulty, but I'm short of time at the moment and it isn't 
urgent.


Can we help you?X

Not exactly standard Debian behaviour, or at least it wasn't once.



Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:23:38 -0700


From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Silly question: Where's eth0?
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On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 08:48:39PM +0100, Joe wrote:

> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> Now, if you actually had a piece of hardware that _was_ fully supported
>> by the linux kernel without this mess, then you would get a functioning
>> eth0 which would then work just fine with the standard Debian networking
>> tools.  In short, your problem isn't with the networking tools, its with=

Don't know where to look next?X



 a


>> non-functional driver.


> Looks like my last post didn't make it here. I had a solid, dependable=20
> working MB NIC until a couple of weeks ago, when Sid suddenly started=20
> renaming it to eth1 during boot (without explanation) and then saying eth=

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> didn't exist. I didn't notice (not exactly the kind of thing you expect),=

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> disabled it and installed a PCI card, then when that didn't work, had to=

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> alter my interfaces file to eth1. I think the MB NIC is probably not=20
> faulty, but I'm short of time at the moment and it isn't urgent.

>

> Not exactly standard Debian behaviour, or at least it wasn't once.

well. I'm silly for jumping into this, but the important word above is
'Sid'.


Confused? Frustrated?X

I suspect that's 'nuff said. :)



A



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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:41:14 +0200


From: Thierry Chatelet <tchatelet@free.fr>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Web cam Philips 0471:032d not seen
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On Thursday 25 October 2007 21:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

>


> where did you get these drivers? if they are from debian stable,
> they're probably just not up-to-date enough. Either pull the source
> from upstream or from lenny/sid and rebuild it.
>
>


> A
Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

As said I am indeed running Etch!!! I tried sources from upstream, but no 
luck!


Thank you anyway


T



Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:47:15 +0200


From: Thierry Chatelet <tchatelet@free.fr>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Web cam Philips 0471:032d not seen
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On Thursday 25 October 2007 21:24, Russell L. Harris wrote:

>


> If you Google a bit, I think that you shall find that others have
> experienced difficulty with the gspca driver.
>


> If you are able to return the unit and purchase another, get a Philips
> SPC900NC/27.  It has glass optics (not plastic), it has superior
> performance in situations with low-illumination, and I found that it
> works with Debian etch.  About US$80.


>

> RLH


Well, I will have to find some one with $W, and resell it to them. I bought it 
on the net, and you never get a full description of what you are going to 
get. I bought it because I tried one with the same description, and it 
worked!!


Maybe I will be able to exchange it with that friend, but it *** me, because 
he is always teasing me to go back to $W, and I don't want to give him a 
chance to criticize Linux.


Thank you for your answer.


Thierry



Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:47:06 -0700


From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu>
To: "Debian help)" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?

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On Oct 24, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Scott Lair wrote:

> OK, now I'm wondering what the differences are between genuine  
> Postscript and
> BR-script.....and if those differences may cause trouble later on.

In the past, when I've run into trouble with off-brand  
implementations of Postscript, it's always been when printing from  
Adobe software.  Perhaps unsurprisingly, they tend to use features of  
Postscript that other people don't.  Adobe products also have  
problems printing to PCL6 printers -- it's common, at least under  
Windows, to have Adobe Acrobat Reader print pages that are mirror  
images of what they're supposed to be on PCL6 printers.  It's  
frustrating and comical at the same time.  Using PCL5e always seemed  
to fix it.


Do you need help?X

Note that having a "real" implementation of Postscript isn't always a  
guarantee, either -- I've had print jobs from Adobe Acrobat Reader  
error out with Postscript errors even on printers that supposedly had  
Adobe-licensed copies.



I wouldn't worry about it too much.  If you have trouble, you can  
always switch to foomatic and have it re-interpret the print job to a  
lower Postscript level, or send it as PCL.  Your computer will have  
to do a little more work, but your printouts will come out fine.  And  
you'll still have all the advantages of a networked printer.  I won't  
even buy printers without ethernet ports anymore -- it's just so much  
more convenient when I can plug them into the network.



Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:13:11 +1000


From: Alex Samad <alex@samad.com.au>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: About bluez-pin package


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On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 04:36:02PM +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> With Sarge there was a package named bluez-pin, not available in Etch.  D=

oes

> anyone know what will the correspondent Etch package be?  I wish to pair =

my

> phone with the PC without any desktop applets.

i think they have removed the package, have a look in the=20
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> Thanks
> Rodolfo
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:56:24 +0200


From: =?utf-8?q?Adri=C3=A1n_Ribao_Mart=C3=ADnez?= <aribao@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: wireles /wpa_supplicant - where to start?
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El Jueves, 25 de Octubre de 2007, Tyler Smith escribi=C3=B3:

> Hi,
>


> I'm trying to set myself up on my University's wireless network. I can
> successfully connect to my home wireless using:
>


> iwconfig ath0 key 676bd87bc0dd5315f1cd8de794
> dhclient ath0
>


> and to unencrypted public access points using:
>


> ifconfig ath0 down
> iwconfig ath0 key off
> ifconfig ath0 up
> iwconfig ath0 ap any
> dhclient ath0
>


> However, my University uses WPA, TKIP, PEAP and EAP-MSCHAP v2. I was
> advised to try network manager, but I couldn't get either
> network-manager-gnome or kdenetwork-manager to work on my laptop
> running fluxbox. network-manager-gnome reported that network manager
> wasn't running even when it was, and kdenetwork-manager reported that
> it could not find any network devices.
>


> I couldn't figure this out, so I removed network manager et al and
> installed wpa_supplicant. I read the man page, and wrote the following
> wpa_supplicant.conf script:
>


> ctrl_interface=3D/var/run/wpa_supplicant
> ctrl_interface_group=3Dtyler
>

> network=3D{
>     ssid=3D"SMU_PUBLIC"
>     key_mgmt=3DWPA-EAP IEEE8021X NONE
>     pairwise=3DTKIP
>     eap=3DMSCHAPV2 PEAP
>     identity=3D"my-university-user-name"
>     password=3D"my-university-password"

> }
>


> I've attached the error message for this below. At this point I have
> no idea what to do. I don't know if the problem is the
> wpa_supplicant.conf, my wireless driver (madwifi), something needed in
> interfaces? If anyone can point me in the right direction that would
> be great.
>


> Thanks,
>


> Tyler
>

> root:tyler# wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -d

> Initializing interface 'ath0' conf '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' driver
> 'default' ctrl_interface 'N/A' bridge 'N/A' Configuration file
> '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' -> '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' Reading
> configuration file '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'
> ctrl_interface=3D'/var/run/wpa_supplicant'
> ctrl_interface_group=3D'tyler' (DEPRECATED)
> Line 11: removed CCMP from group cipher list since it was not allowed for
> pairwise cipher Priority group 0
>    id=3D0 ssid=3D'SMU_PUBLIC'
> Initializing interface (2) 'ath0'
> EAPOL: SUPP_PAE entering state DISCONNECTED
> EAPOL: KEY_RX entering state NO_KEY_RECEIVE
> EAPOL: SUPP_BE entering state INITIALIZE
> EAP: EAP entering state DISABLED
> EAPOL: External notification - portEnabled=3D0
> EAPOL: External notification - portValid=3D0
> Interface ath0 set UP - waiting a second for the driver to complete
> initialization SIOCGIWRANGE: WE(compiled)=3D20 WE(source)=3D13 enc_capa=

=3D0xf

>   capabilities: key_mgmt 0xf enc 0xf
> WEXT: Operstate: linkmode=3D1, operstate=3D5
> Own MAC address: 00:16:cf:1d:c9:e4
> wpa_driver_wext_set_wpa
> wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=3D0 key_idx=3D0 set_tx=3D0 seq_len=3D0 key_l=

en=3D0

> wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=3D0 key_idx=3D1 set_tx=3D0 seq_len=3D0 key_l=

en=3D0

> wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=3D0 key_idx=3D2 set_tx=3D0 seq_len=3D0 key_l=

en=3D0

> wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=3D0 key_idx=3D3 set_tx=3D0 seq_len=3D0 key_l=

en=3D0

> wpa_driver_wext_set_countermeasures
> wpa_driver_wext_set_drop_unencrypted
> RSN: flushing PMKID list in the driver
> Setting scan request: 0 sec 100000 usec
> ctrl_interface_group=3D1000 (from group name 'tyler')
> Added interface ath0
> Ignore event for foreign ifindex 6
> RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=3D0 ifi_flags=3D0x11043 ([UP][RUNNING][LOWER_UP])
> RTM_NEWLINK, IFLA_IFNAME: Interface 'ath0' added
> RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=3D0 ifi_flags=3D0x11043 ([UP][RUNNING][LOWER_UP])
> RTM_NEWLINK, IFLA_IFNAME: Interface 'ath0' added
> RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=3D0 ifi_flags=3D0x11043 ([UP][RUNNING][LOWER_UP])
> Wireless event: cmd=3D0x8b06 len=3D8
> RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=3D0 ifi_flags=3D0x11003 ([UP][LOWER_UP])
> RTM_NEWLINK, IFLA_IFNAME: Interface 'ath0' added
> State: DISCONNECTED -> SCANNING
> Starting AP scan (broadcast SSID)
> Trying to get current scan results first without requesting a new scan to
> speed up initial association Received 760 bytes of scan results (3 BSSes)
> Scan results: 3
> Selecting BSS from priority group 0
> Try to find WPA-enabled AP
> 0: 00:16:c7:dc:00:e1 ssid=3D'' wpa_ie_len=3D26 rsn_ie_len=3D0 caps=3D0x11
>    skip - SSID mismatch
> 1: 00:16:c7:db:e8:e0 ssid=3D'' wpa_ie_len=3D0 rsn_ie_len=3D0 caps=3D0x1
>    skip - no WPA/RSN IE
> 2: 00:16:c7:dc:00:a0 ssid=3D'' wpa_ie_len=3D0 rsn_ie_len=3D0 caps=3D0x1
>    skip - no WPA/RSN IE
> Try to find non-WPA AP
> 0: 00:16:c7:dc:00:e1 ssid=3D'' wpa_ie_len=3D26 rsn_ie_len=3D0 caps=3D0x11
>    skip - SSID mismatch
> 1: 00:16:c7:db:e8:e0 ssid=3D'' wpa_ie_len=3D0 rsn_ie_len=3D0 caps=3D0x1
>    skip - SSID mismatch
> 2: 00:16:c7:dc:00:a0 ssid=3D'' wpa_ie_len=3D0 rsn_ie_len=3D0 caps=3D0x1
>    skip - SSID mismatch
> No suitable AP found.
> Setting scan request: 0 sec 0 usec
> Starting AP scan (broadcast SSID)
> Scan timeout - try to get results
> Received 1002 bytes of scan results (4 BSSes)
> Scan results: 4
> Selecting BSS from priority group 0
> Try to find WPA-enabled AP
>


> <SNIPPED OUTPUT>
>


>   C-c C-cCTRL-EVENT-TERMINATING - signal 2 received
> Removing interface ath0
> State: SCANNING -> DISCONNECTED
> wpa_driver_wext_set_operstate: operstate 0->0 (DORMANT)
> WEXT: Operstate: linkmode=3D-1, operstate=3D5
> No keys have been configured - skip key clearing
> EAPOL: External notification - portEnabled=3D0
> EAPOL: External notification - portValid=3D0
> wpa_driver_wext_set_wpa
> wpa_driver_wext_set_drop_unencrypted
> wpa_driver_wext_set_countermeasures
> No keys have been configured - skip key clearing
> Cancelling scan request
> Cancelling authentication timeout
> WEXT: Operstate: linkmode=3D0, operstate=3D6

Try if your chipset works with iwpriv, in my case, I have this config:



iface eth2 inet dhcp

        pre-up iwconfig eth2 mode managed
        pre-up iwconfig eth2 essid "MYESSID"
        pre-up iwpriv eth2 set AuthMode=3DWPAPSK
        pre-up iwpriv eth2 set EncrypType=3DTKIP
        pre-up iwpriv eth2 set WPAPSK=3D(wpa key CODIFIED)

Can we help you?X

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:24:39 -0400


From: Wakko Warner <wakko@animx.eu.org>


To: Pawe?? G??ga <gega.pawel@gmail.com>


Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: 1GB RAM is missing.

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Again, please do not top post.  Also, keep list mails on the list.



Pawe?? G??ga wrote:

> i have a kernel compiled fod 4gb , can this be the reason of these lacks ?

The way it works, there are 3 memory models.  1gb, 4gb, and 64gb.  This is
NOT the amount of memory in your machine.



1gb will give you access to upto 900mb but definately not 1024mb if you have
1gb actually installed.  For this, you need 4gb.



4gb will give you access to upto about 3072mb of memory.  This would be used
if you have more than 1gb of memory but not more than 3gb.



64gb will give you access to all of your memory (I do not know the upper
limit on this, but I'm almost certain it's not 64gb).  This also enabled PAE
extensions.  I don't know what motherboards support PAE, my original
understanding was that only machines that handle more than 4gb of physical
memory supported PAE and kernels compiled for PAE would only run on those
machines.  I was wrong on that.  Most recent boards I've dealt with (pIII
class and above) work just fine with PAE extensions even though hold less
than 1gb of memory.  This also enables 64-bit memory addressing (I think
that was the term.  See the kconfig for the option).



Be sure that your replies also go to the list.


Can't find what you're looking for?X
> 2007/10/24, Wakko Warner <wakko@animx.eu.org>:
> >
> > pgega wrote:
> >
> > Please do not top post.
> >
> > > I just installed AMD64 Debian, put 4th RAM stick, but new sysytem does
> > > not see the memory, even if I set mem=3900M in grub.
> > >
> > > I completly do not know what  to do now.
> >
> > I'm using i386 debian with a custom kernel.  I'm running on xeon dual core
> > processors.  I did not set mem= on anything, but I do have the kernel
> > compiled for 64gb ram.  Using 2.6.23 and I notice no slowdowns having 4gb
> > of
> > ram.
> >
> > > On Oct 24, 1:20 am, Wakko Warner <wa...@animx.eu.org> wrote:
> > > > Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > > Modern 32 bit processors and chipsets map around those limitations.
> > > >
> > > > > For many years there have been 32-bit server motherboards that
> > > > > accept and use (in both Linux and Windows) up to 64GB RAM.
> > > >
> > > > I have a SuperMicro X7DA3+ board with 4gb of memory installed.  Here's
> > what
> > > > I see:
> > > > # uname -a
> > > > Linux vegeta 2.6.20-pae #4 SMP PREEMPT Wed Apr 4 18:10:06 EDT 2007
> > i686 GNU/Linux
> > > > # free
> > > >              total       used       free     shared    buffers
> > cached
> > > > Mem:       4150372     709824    3440548          0     143332
> > 247752
> > > > -/+ buffers/cache:     318740    3831632
> > > > Swap:            0          0          0
> > > > #
> > > >
> > > > I have not compiled my kernel for 64-bit yet.  Given this I may
> > not.  I
> > > > really don't want to change my userland to 64-bit right now.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  Lab tests show that use of micro$oft causes cancer in lab animals
> > > >  Got Gas???
> > > >
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> >
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:38:39 +0100
From: Pantor <pantor@painter-decorator.eu>
To: Debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Open Office 2.0 Writer craks
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Hi lads,

Start Open Office 2.0 Writer,
press File then New,
go to Templates and Documents,
then press Templates icon,
then choose any from the list,
and get shit instead of document.

Andrius



Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:39:32 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Web cam Philips 0471:032d not seen
Message-ID: <20071025223932.GW1761@localhost.localdomain>
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On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 10:41:14PM +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote:

> On Thursday 25 October 2007 21:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >
> > where did you get these drivers? if they are from debian stable,
> > they're probably just not up-to-date enough. Either pull the source
> > from upstream or from lenny/sid and rebuild it.
> >

>=20

> As said I am indeed running Etch!!!


woops, missed that.


> I tried sources from upstream, but no=20
> luck!


Have you grepped that USB ID from the source to confirm it's in there?=20
Despite what the website says, if the USB ID isn't in there, then it
won't get loaded. Also, it looks like you're installing the module
=66rom the build tree instead of from the usual
/lib/modules/... location, maybe your depmod hasn't picked it up.

hth.

A

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:32:44 +0100
From: MRH <misiek_spam@o2.pl>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Debian Sid, Xorg - mouse doesn't work
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Hi,

I have a problem after I apt-upgraded Debian Sid a couple of days ago. 
It seems that some xserver-xorg-* or hal* packages broke my mouse in X. 
The result is I have no working mouse in X - it displays cursor, that's 
it. I managed to operate the mouse with keyboard 'emulation', but it's 
very inconvenient. I got the latest today - still no change.
I'm sure the mouse is OK - it works on other PCs. This is USB mouse; and 
it's configured both as evdev and /dev/mice (the reason for the double 
config is that the mouse is connected through a KVM, but it worked 
before; moreover I tried also 'standard' config with /dev/mice only - 
still doesn't work). When I switch to console as root and do
# cat /dev/mice
I receive lots of 'garbage' when I move the mouse - so the system sees it.

I removed xserver-xorg-input-evdev temporarily as it messed my keyboard; 
but I still have problems with the mouse.

May I get some help - what can I do? Or should I wait for some update 
which eventually fixes the problem?

Cheers,
Michal R. Hoffmann

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