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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2688

Today's Topics: 

  Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with PERC  [ Andraz Sraka  ]
  Best Kernel?                          [ Jeff Grossman  ]
  Re: gnome screensavers - can I get m  [ Jose Luis Rivas Contreras  ]
  Re: mySQL and 'testing'               [ "Mumia W.."  ]
  Re: system clock reset on reboot      [ Jonas Meurer  ]
  Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude               [ Amit Uttamchandani  ]

Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:19:54 +0200
From: Andraz Sraka <a@aufbix.org>
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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Hello people,

are there any diagnostic/monitoring tools in linux (debian etch for instance) for monitoring Dell PERC 5/i RAID controller. I found that there are some utilities for RHEL/SuSE enterprise distribution. Has anyone managed to see status of controller in Debian? What tools do I need to use/install and are any kernel patches required? It would be nice to see raid status as also the faulty disks :)

Do you need help?X

server:~# lspci |grep RAID
02:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Dell PowerEdge Expandable RAID controller 5

regards,
 Andraz

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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:07:29 -0700
From: Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com>
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Best Kernel? 

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Do you need more help?X

I have an AMD Sempron 2800+ processor with 1 Gig of ram. I am currently using the 2.6.22-2-486 kernel from Lenny. I want to install a different kernel so I can get the full use of my 1 Gig of ram. I was looking through the options and found the following: 

linux-image-2.6.22-2-686
linux-image-2.6.22-2-686-bigmem
linux-image-2.6.22-2-amd64

First off, can I use the amd64 kernel with a Sempron processor? I am not sure if it has support for 64 bit programs. If not, of the other two, which would be the best option for me?

And, when I am ready to upgrade, do I just run an apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22-2-*?

Thanks for any help you can offer me.

Jeff

Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:32:56 -0400
From: Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <ghostbar38@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more? Message-ID: <47236838.7010003@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1;  protocol="application/pgp-signature";
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Martin Waller wrote:
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> But thanks for the suggestion - just seems to have created a new proble=
m :)

Not really, there's a bug already registered about this issue: http://bugs.debian.org/413690

With 24bits depth works perfectly ;-).

Regards,
Jose Luis.
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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:38:11 -0400
From: Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <ghostbar38@gmail.com> To: Debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Best Kernel?
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Jeff Grossman wrote:
> I have an AMD Sempron 2800+ processor with 1 Gig of ram. I am currentl=
y
> using the 2.6.22-2-486 kernel from Lenny. I want to install a differen=
t
> kernel so I can get the full use of my 1 Gig of ram. I was looking
> through the options and found the following:
>=20
> linux-image-2.6.22-2-686

Is best that the 486.
> linux-image-2.6.22-2-686-bigmem

If you have +4G in RAM
> linux-image-2.6.22-2-amd64

I don't think that your sempron supports 64bits.

There should exists a "k7" kernel, something like "linux-image-2.6.22-2-k7", that should be your best option, if the k7 kernel doesn't exists anymore then use the 686.

> And, when I am ready to upgrade, do I just run an apt-get install
> linux-image-2.6.22-2-*?

Just like any other package :-)

Regards,
Jose Luis.
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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:27:36 +0100
From: Martin Waller <martinej.waller@ntlworld.com> To: Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <ghostbar38@gmail.com> Cc: Debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more? 

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Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:
> Martin Waller wrote:
> 

>> Hello,
>>
>> I don't seem to have a very wide variety of screensavers under gnome (5
>> basic ones).
>> 1) Are more available?
>> 2) From where?
>> 3) How do install them?
>>     
>

> Hi Martin, there's rss-glx and the hacks of xscreensaver but you need to
> installe the full package of xscreensaver (including the application!),
> right now I'm working in a package that makes this easier for
> gnome-screensaver including the hacks of xscreensaver as well ;-).
>

> Regards,
> Jose Luis.
>

Hi Jose,

OK - I installed those and tried to run xscreensaver, but go tthe following error:

martin@papilio:~$ xscreensaver &
[2] 10481 

[1]   Exit 127                xscrennsaver
martin@papilio:~$ Error: Cairo does not yet support the requested image format: 
        Depth: 16
        Alpha mask: 0x00000000
        Red   mask: 0x0000003f
        Green mask: 0x000007c0
        Blue  mask: 0x0000f800

Please file an enhacement request (quoting the above) at: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=cairo xscreensaver-demo:
/home/dajobe/dev/debian/cairo/cairo-1.2.4/src/cairo-image-surface.c:155: _cairo_format_from_pixman_format: Assertion `NOT_REACHED' failed. xscreensaver: 18:15:59: 0: child pid 0485 (xscreensaver-demo) terminated with signal 6.
Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

X error in juggler3d:
X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)   Major opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)   Resource id in failed request: 0x3600093   Serial number of failed request: 16
  Current serial number in output stream: 17

errrr...

But thanks for the suggestion - just seems to have created a new problem :)

Martin

Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:28:56 -0400
From: Rick Thomas <rbthomas55@pobox.com> To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Cc: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net> Subject: Re: system clock reset on reboot 

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On Oct 27, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Russell L. Harris wrote:

> * Jonas Meurer <jonas@freesources.org> [071027 09:14]:

>>
>> i remember some debconf question at the installation of debian,  
>> where i
>> was asked whether my hardware clock is set to GMT. is GMT the same  
>> as UTC?
>> and to which package does this question belong?
>>
>>
>

> Check by searching with Google, but I think that there is only a minor
> technical difference between GMT and UTC. For practical purposes,
> they are one and the same. GMT is the traditional term; UTC is
> recent.
Do you need help?X

UTC is the acronym for "Coordinated Universal Time" (It's French. International standards are often officially designated in French.) It's also used as the timezone designation (when one is called for) of international standard time independent of Timezone or Daylight Savings time fiddles.

GMT is the acronym for "Greenwich Mean Time". It's the timezone designation used in England equivalent to Standard Time in London. The equivalent designation for Daylight Savings time is BST, which stands for British Summer Time.

It happens that the offset between UTC and GMT is 0 hours, 0 minutes. And historically, GMT existed long before UTC was invented. So people often use "GMT" when they really mean "UTC".

If the installer really asked if the hardware clock was set to GMT, it's a bug. It should be changed to refer to "UTC" instead.

Rick

Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:00:26 -0500
From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: mySQL and 'testing' 

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On 10/27/2007 06:15 AM, ieb wrote:
> [...]
> E:mysql-server-5.0: sub-process post-installation script returned error
> exit status 1
> E: mysql server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
>
>
> My biggest problem is that I am still unfamiliar with where all the logs
> and programmes are maintained/held in Linux, so my investigations tend
> to consist of repeatedly lurching from one wild idea to the next [...]

Do you need more help?X

Look at the logs in /var/log, e.g. 

/var/log/mysql.log
/var/log/messages
/var/log/syslog

and possibly others.

Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:37:11 +0100
From: Martin Waller <martinej.waller@ntlworld.com> To: Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <ghostbar38@gmail.com> Cc: Debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more? 

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Martin Waller wrote:
> Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:

>> Martin Waller wrote:
>>  
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I don't seem to have a very wide variety of screensavers under gnome (5
>>> basic ones).
>>> 1) Are more available?
>>> 2) From where?
>>> 3) How do install them?
>>>     
>>
>> Hi Martin, there's rss-glx and the hacks of xscreensaver but you need to

Can we help you?X

>> installe the full package of xscreensaver (including the application!),
>> right now I'm working in a package that makes this easier for
>> gnome-screensaver including the hacks of xscreensaver as well ;-).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jose Luis.
>>   
>

> Hi Jose,
>

> OK - I installed those and tried to run xscreensaver, but go tthe
> following error:
>

> martin@papilio:~$ xscreensaver &
> [2] 10481
> [1] Exit 127 xscrennsaver
> martin@papilio:~$ Error: Cairo does not yet support the requested
> image format:
> Depth: 16
> Alpha mask: 0x00000000
> Red mask: 0x0000003f
> Green mask: 0x000007c0
> Blue mask: 0x0000f800
> Please file an enhacement request (quoting the above) at:
> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=cairo
> xscreensaver-demo:
> /home/dajobe/dev/debian/cairo/cairo-1.2.4/src/cairo-image-surface.c:155:
> _cairo_format_from_pixman_format: Assertion `NOT_REACHED' failed.
> xscreensaver: 18:15:59: 0: child pid 0485 (xscreensaver-demo)
> terminated with signal 6.
>

> X error in juggler3d:
> X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
> Major opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)
> Resource id in failed request: 0x3600093
> Serial number of failed request: 16
> Current serial number in output stream: 17
>
> errrr...

aah - I only get this error through a vnc connection (running vnc4server, etch package version 4.1.1+X4.3) - at the actual box it seems to work OK...? 

>

> But thanks for the suggestion - just seems to have created a new
> problem :)
>

> Martin

>
>

Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:30:49 +0100
From: Digby Tarvin <digbyt@acm.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Fresh 7.10 netinstall problems... 

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I hope there are some experts out there that can offer some suggestions regarding a problem I am having installing Debian Etch (40r1-386-netinst downloaded on 23/10/07) on a Dell Precision 410 MT...

Everything goes fine through the initial install, up to the point where I have to reboot using the freshly installed kernel on the hard drive.

I can log in after the reboot, and everything looks ok, but when I then proceed to try and complete the install by adding other packages like 'xorg', things start going wrong...

Either the package transfer fails after a few minutes with messages like 

	E: Method http has died unexpectedly!
	segmentation fault
or dpkg falls over during the installation of the package, eg
	/bin/sh: line 1: 2284 Segmentation fault /usr/bin/dpkg_preconfigure...

I tried doing an 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade' but the system did not survive long enough to get the updated kernel installed.

It seems that the kernel used during the initial install was stable, but the kernel it installed on the hard disk is not.

I tried adding 'nosmp' to the command line in case there were problems with that, but it made no difference.

Any suggestions much appreciated.

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For anyone who has read this far - here are some more details about the target hardware: 

	Model: Dell Precision Workstation 410 MT
	BIOS revision A08
	CPU: 2xPIII 450MHz
	Video card: 3DLabs Oxygen GVX1
	Ram: 1024MB
	Adaptec AIC-7890 BIOS DELL-V2.01.05
		SCSI ID 0	COMPAQ  DDRS-34560W ULTRA2-SE
		SCSI ID 1	SEAGATE ST173404LW  ULTRA2-SE
	Adaptec AIC-7880 BIOS DELL-V2.01.05
		SCSI ID 1   MATSHITA DVD-RAM LF-200
	Primary IDE1    ZIP drive

Regards,
DigbyT 

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Digby R. S. Tarvin                                          digbyt(at)digbyt.com
http://www.digbyt.com

Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:46:21 +0200 From: Jonas Meurer <jonas@freesources.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: system clock reset on reboot Message-ID: <20071027164621.GD19929@freesources.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On 27/10/2007 Russell L. Harris wrote:
> Has it been more than three or four years since you changed the CMOS
> RAM backup battery on the motherboard? A dead battery can cause
> difficulties, because some of the time utilities expect to make only
> minor corrections (seconds and minutes, not months and years).
that's a good point. my motherboard indeed is about four years old, maybe you're right, and the battery is dead. the debconf question about "hardware clock set to GMT" seems not related, as it is only about whether your clock is set to local time or not. it doesn't offer the possibility of a dead or wrong hardware clock at all. greetings, jonas

Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:01:02 -0700 From: Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com> To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Apt-Get or Aptitude Message-ID: <47236ECE.8040806@stikman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was just reading the forums at forums.debian.org and came across a thread about apt-get and aptitude. I just installed Debian this week after moving over from Gentoo. I have only been using the apt-get method because that is all I ever saw mentioned. But, I guess aptitude is the preferred Debian method now. Is there a safe way for me to start using aptitude instead of apt-get? What is the best way for me to make the switch? Thanks, Jeff

Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:12:31 -0700 From: Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude Message-ID: <20071027101231.45ca38dd@debian.csun.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:01:02 -0700 Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com> wrote:
> I was just reading the forums at forums.debian.org and came across a
> thread about apt-get and aptitude. I just installed Debian this week
> after moving over from Gentoo. I have only been using the apt-get
> method because that is all I ever saw mentioned. But, I guess aptitude
> is the preferred Debian method now. Is there a safe way for me to start
> using aptitude instead of apt-get? What is the best way for me to make
> the switch?
For new installs it is actually recommended to use aptitude. However, from following the recent apt-get vs aptitude threads, there doesn't seem to be any big difference between the two. So if you are comfortable with apt-get there is no need to switch. One of the few advantages of aptitude that I have been regularly hearing is that it handles package uninstalls better. For example, it is better at apt-get when removing unused dependencies after removing a package. And finally, I really like the aptitude ncurses based package manager. It made things quite simple for me during my transition from Mac OS X to Debian Etch. Hope this helps, Amit

Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:32:32 -0400 From: Jack Dodds <brmdamon@aci.on.ca> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Up arrow runs gnome-screenshot etch Message-ID: <47237630.5090607@aci.on.ca> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig15038079F0E69F162CB6F045" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig15038079F0E69F162CB6F045 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am running etch with gnome on an Intel machine. I have two seats set up, using GDM. The primary seat has a 104 key keyboard and is connected via a PS-2 keyboard connector. The second seat has a 104 key keyboard connected via USB. On both keyboards, if I hit the UP key in the editing section of the keyboard, the program gnome-screenshot runs. The LEFT, RIGHT, and DOWN keys do nothing. This happens for all users, and both seats. This is especially since I am used to using the UP key and often hit it multiple times or hold it down, out of habit. This launches many instances of gnome-screenshot, which has on at least one occasions actually hung the computer in a state where it kept launching gnome-screenshot instances, about one a second, and could not be stopped.= If I check Desktop-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts, there is no mention of gnome-screenshot. I have also searched all the /etc directories that have anything to do with X or Gnome for files containing the string gnome-screenshot and have found nothing. This behaviour seems to have started when I upgraded sarge to etch. Can anybody suggest how I can get back the the key functions that were present in Etch - and especially how to move gnome-screenshot to the Print key, where it should be! I've appended the InputDevice sections from XF86Config-4. Jack Dodds Section "InputDevice" Identifier "First Keyboard" Driver "keyboard" Option "Device" "/dev/input/event0" # Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Second Keyboard" Driver "keyboard" Option "Protocol" "usbev" Option "Device" "/dev/input/event1" # Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D This email is digitally signed using the Enigmail and GnuPG packages (http://enigmail.mozdev.org),=20 which can also be used by the recipient to verify the digital signature. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --------------enig15038079F0E69F162CB6F045 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHI3Y4wj1FbTyiF68RAkumAJ9K5/4msnSXkpBnr3iOd07Hc7YqsgCfevwl HUX6B/ZCBOxBv01ntfJnTBE= =9jAU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig15038079F0E69F162CB6F045-- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2688 ************************************************** Received on Sat Oct 27 13:56:25 2007

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