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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2694
Today's Topics:
Re: Fresh Etch netinstall problems.. [ Digby Tarvin ]
Thinkpad T20 wireless troubles - rev [ Sjoerd Hiemstra ]
Re: What is a binNMU? [ "Kelly Clowers" ]
Re: Tool to configure sound [ Chris Lale ]
Re: CUPS: Shared printers not shown [ Florian Kulzer ]
Re: gnome screensavers - can I get m [ Mark Grieveson ]
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:44:04 +0000
From: Digby Tarvin <digbyt@acm.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Fresh Etch netinstall problems...
Message-ID: <20071028164404.GE24042@skaro.cthulhu.dircon.co.uk>
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Some progress...
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 03:55:24PM +0000, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > > > > It seems that the kernel used during the initial install was stable,
> > > > > but the kernel it installed on the hard disk is not.
> >
> > > > > Model: Dell Precision Workstation 410 MT
> > > > > BIOS revision A08
> > > > > CPU: 2xPIII 450MHz
> > > > > Video card: 3DLabs Oxygen GVX1
> > > > > Ram: 1024MB
> > > > > Adaptec AIC-7890 BIOS DELL-V2.01.05
> > > > > SCSI ID 0 COMPAQ DDRS-34560W ULTRA2-SE
> > > > > SCSI ID 1 SEAGATE ST173404LW ULTRA2-SE
> > > > > Adaptec AIC-7880 BIOS DELL-V2.01.05
> > > > > SCSI ID 1 MATSHITA DVD-RAM LF-200
> > > > > Primary IDE1 ZIP drive
snip..
> Try aptitude there (thus with the installer's kernel). If
> > > > that works, do a uname -a there and notice any difference.
>
> Ok, that seemed to work ok. Here is what uname -a produces:
>
> Linux precision 2.6.18-5-486 #1 Fri Jun 1 00:07:22 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
>
> vs the kernel on the hard drive, which is:
>
> Linux precision 2.6.18-5-686 #1 SMP Fri Jun 1 00:47:00 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
>
> The only difference I see is the SMP - which as mentioned, I have tried
> disabling with a 'nosmp' argument.
Oops - overlooked the 486/686 difference initially..
When I spotted that, I tried installing the 486 kernel from the
chrooted rescue media...
Bingo - It booted all the way and I now seem to have a working (though
at reduced functionality) system...
X comes up fully and everything seems to work, except that I only
have a uni-processor system now, which is a bit of a bummer...
But this is progress, and hopefully a clue as to the problem...
So now I wonder what kernel difference could be causing a problem on this
particular system. Could it be a SMP problem, even though running the 686
kernel with 'nosmp' option still exibits the instability? Or does that
mean it is some other difference between 686/486 kernel??
Any idea where I can go from here? I really would hate to have to settle for
50% of my processing power...
I suppose I could try to lay my hands on an IDE drive and do a test install
on that with the 7890 disabled. That would determine if the SCSI controller
really is complicit in my problem.
Regards,
DigbyT
--
Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com
http://www.digbyt.com
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:49:29 +0100
From: Sjoerd Hiemstra <shiems146@kpnplanet.nl>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Thinkpad T20 wireless troubles - revisited
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 Chris Brotherton wrote:
> I just recent got an old T20 and I am attempting to use Debian on it.
> I am using a PCMCIA orinoco wireless card. Here is the crazy part.
> The card is recognized by the installer. The installer asks me for my
> essid and my WEP key. After I input the information, the wireless
> card get its ip address over dhcp and then works flawlessly. The
> trouble comes when I finish the install and boot the machine. Once
> the machine comes up, I cannot get the wireless card to work.
> iwconfig shows that it has all of the correct information, but it
> cannot get an ip address. I have tried both 4.0r1 and a testing
> snapshot. Both have the exact same problem.
>
> Can anyone help?
I just recent got a Thinkpad T30, and now I'm having the same problem,
after installing Lenny on it, using a netinstall cd.
During bootup I noticed these messages, and there are comparatively
long pauses between them:
DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14
DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
No DHCPOFFERS received.
No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
Done.
During other bootups, those interval numbers vary.
Personally I have no idea what to make out of this, but could it shed
some light on it for others?
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:53:24 -0700
From: Rippit the Ogg Frog <rippit@oggfrog.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: btlaunchmany threads always dying
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I am setting up a Debian Etch system as a dedicated bittorrent seed for
the torrents found at http://www.oggfrog.com/music
I have my .torrent files in /etc/btlaunchmany/active and the payload
files in /var/bittorrent/torrentfiles
If I test with btdownloadcurses or btdownloadheadless, right away the
files are verified and seeded.
But if I use btlaunchmany, I get a bunch of error messages. My command
line is:
btlaunchmany /etc/btlaunchmany/active --minport 40000 --maxport 40010
--max_upload_rate 128
the error messages are:
/etc/btlaunchmany/active/Michael David Crawford - Geometric Visions 1994
- Ogg Vorbis q6: try 5 died, retry in 1
/etc/btlaunchmany/active/Michael David Crawford - Geometric Visions 1994
- Ogg Vorbis q6: Spd: 0 B/s:0 B/s Tot: 0.0 M:0.0 M [starting]
Michael David Crawford - Geometric Visions 1994 - Ogg Vorbis q6.torrent
died 6 times, added to dead list
so it looks like my seed threads are repeatedly and immediately dying,
but I can't figure out why. Google and the Debian bug database don't
yield any insights.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Rippit
--
Rippit the Ogg Frog
rippit@oggfrog.com
http://www.oggfrog.com/
Software isn't the only thing that should be free.
Music should be too, as it once was.
Date: 28 Oct 2007 13:21:41 -0400
From: Haines Brown <brownh@hartford-hwp.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: SMTP smart host authentication fails
Message-ID: <87lk9n9mu2.fsf@teufel.hartford-hwp.com>
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Douglas,
Let me first say that my problem has been resolved. Seems to have been
a combination of not opening the port in my hardware firewall (which I
should have knwon), and a broken smtp server address. I'm able to
send mail out now.
> Read /usr/share/doc/exim4-doc-html/html/spec_html/ch14.html
Nice, if I had it ;-(. I installed exim4 under debian Etch, and no
such exim4-doc-html direcory created. I've got some documentation, but
not of this scale.
I have Hazel's book on Exim, and it seems to suggest I could use
a line like this to specify the remote port (but that's apparently not
what I want to do):
port = 587
in perhaps /exim4/conf.d/transport/30_exim4-config_remote_smtp.
Perhaps If I had the time I could extract a clearer picture from the
book.
Thanks for the help.
--
Haines Brown, KB1GRM
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:34:19 -0400
From: Mark Grieveson <dg135@torfree.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more?
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:41:23 +0000 (UTC)
debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I don't seem to have a very wide variety of screensavers under gnome
> (5 basic ones).
>
> 1) Are more available?
> 2) From where?
> 3) How do install them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Martin
I don't think so. I tried installing other screensavers, IE,
the package electricsheep, and it did not appear in the list of
available screensavers in gnome-screensaver. I checked the net, to see
if art.gnome.org provided any, but, no, it did not.
xscreensaver provides more; so, you could switch. When I used
xscreensaver, I found that its presence interfered with my playing
fullscreen sdl games such as defendguin, or Quake; so, I gave up on
xscreensaver. It was a while ago that I used xscreensaver. So, this
may not be an issue any more. If not, and if xscreensaver is now
bug-free, one wonders why gnome-screensaver is even being built at
all. Of course, are screensavers even necessary? But I digress.
There is a site that describes how to get xscreensaver's screensavers to
work on gnome-screensaver. It's at
http://philcrissman.com/2006/07/25/howto-add-your-xscreensavers-to-gnome-screensaver/
I've not tried KDE's kscreensaver, but it, apparently, already has a
package that allows for standard xscreensavers to be used (that being,
kscreensaver-xsavers). Why there isn't a similar package for
gnome-screensaver is a mystery. Perhaps, in line with gnome's human
interface guidelines, they feel that too much choice will confuse us
users. Therefore, only a few choices, like planets, ugly floating
feet, and pathetic "pop-tart-squares", are provided.
Best of luck,
Mark
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:44:14 -0700
From: "Kelly Clowers" <kelly.clowers@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: What is a binNMU?
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On 10/28/07, Anthony Campbell <ac@acampbell.org.uk> wrote:
> I like to use wajig as a frontend to apt but it has been removed from
> Sid because it depends on python-apt, which is also missing, apparently
> because of a binNMU connected with apt. I have no idea what a binNMU is.
> Googling produces a lot of uses of the term but no explanation. I have
> used Debian for a number of years but this is the first time I've heard
> of it.
>
> There was an upgrade of apt yesterday but this did not solve the
> problem. Can someone kindly enlighten me about binNMU or point me to
> some documentation about it?
I can install wajig fine on my sid box. I have not upgraded to apt 0.7.8
from 0.7.6 yet, as aptitude has not been updated to handle the new
version. Python-apt, which wajig depends on, has not yet been updated
either. However, it sounds like this happened before the latest apt update?
Was your wajig actually removed or is it just not possible to upgrade it?
If the latter, does it show a broken state if you try to upgrade or does it
show <none> as the next available version?
Cheers,
Kelly
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:10:08 +0100
From: Andraz Sraka <a@aufbix.org>
To: Maarten Vink <vink@interstroom.nl>
Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with PERC 5/i RAID controller
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re
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 12:50 +0100, Maarten Vink wrote:
> Add deb ftp://ftp.sara.nl/pub/sara-omsa dell sara to /etc/apt/=20
> sources.list and apt-get install dellomsa. This will get you the Dell
> monitoringtools; the omreport-tool will get you all sorts of info on =20
> the raidcontroller:
Setting up openipmi (2.0.7-1) ...
Setting up dellomsa (5.2.0-2) ...
Checking that /etc/ld.so.conf contains required paths...
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/dataeng/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/hapi/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/oma/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/omsa/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/shared/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/sm
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/sm/dellvl
Loading kernel modules
Starting Systems Management Device Drivers:
Starting ipmi driver: *=20
Starting dataengine
Starting Systems Management Device Drivers:
Starting ipmi driver: *=20
dpkg: error processing dellomsa (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
dellomsa
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Is that normal?? What have I missed?
regards,
Andraz
--=20
Humppa all the way!!
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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:56:27 +0000
From: Chris Lale <chrislale@untrammelled.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Tool to configure sound
Message-ID: <4724CD4B.6020603@untrammelled.co.uk>
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Bruno Costacurta wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I installed Debian Etch but have no sound at all.
> Previous Fedora installation gave sounds so probably my Etch is missing some
> setup.
> Drivers looks correctly installed as 'lsmod' shows following drivers :
> ..
> snd_hda_intel 17332 3
> snd_hda_codec 137856 1 snd_hda_intel
> snd_pcm_oss 38368 0
> snd_mixer_oss 15200 1 snd_pcm_oss
> snd_pcm 68676 4 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
> snd_timer 20996 2 snd_pcm
> ..
>
> Is there tool (ie. like system-config-sound) to setup and check sound setup ?
> Thanks for any help.
>
Check that levels are set in alsamixer or alsamixergui. Check that you are
configuring the sound card you have attached the speakers to (some motherboards
have built-in sound too). The name of the sound card appears at the top of the
mixer. Check sound works by running speaker-test.
$ speaker-test
More details on the NewbieDOC wiki [1].
[1] http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Sound_in_Debian_GNU/Linux
--
Chris.
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:00:09 -0400
From: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: What is a binNMU?
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Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I like to use wajig as a frontend to apt but it has been removed from
> Sid because it depends on python-apt, which is also missing, apparently
> because of a binNMU connected with apt. I have no idea what a binNMU is.
> Googling produces a lot of uses of the term but no explanation. I have
> used Debian for a number of years but this is the first time I've heard
> of it.
>
> There was an upgrade of apt yesterday but this did not solve the
> problem. Can someone kindly enlighten me about binNMU or point me to
> some documentation about it?
>
A brief explanation can be found
in /usr/share/doc/developers-reference/developers-reference.pdf section
5.11.9 - Terminology.
In short, NMU = non maintainer upload.
binNMU = binary only NMU.
source NMU = NMU that involves changes to source (either upstream or debian
specific)
Usually, NMU without any qualifications refers to source NMU.
hth
raju
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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:04:32 -0400
From: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: RE : going from etch to unstable (sid)
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> I did just that. However, it lists some packages that are being kept
> back...is that ok?
>
Yes. That is perfectly normal. What it means is that, apt thinks it is saner
not to upgrade those packages so as not to leave the system in a broken
state.
Have fun with Sid and report some bugs. Better yet, fix some of the bugs and
make Debian release faster.
hth
raju
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Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/
http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:12:38 -0400
From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Thinkpad T20 wireless troubles - revisited
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Sjoerd Hiemstra(shiems146@kpnplanet.nl) is reported to have said:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 Chris Brotherton wrote:
> > I just recent got an old T20 and I am attempting to use Debian on it.
> > I am using a PCMCIA orinoco wireless card. Here is the crazy part.
> > The card is recognized by the installer. The installer asks me for my
> > essid and my WEP key. After I input the information, the wireless
> > card get its ip address over dhcp and then works flawlessly. The
> > trouble comes when I finish the install and boot the machine. Once
> > the machine comes up, I cannot get the wireless card to work.
> > iwconfig shows that it has all of the correct information, but it
> > cannot get an ip address. I have tried both 4.0r1 and a testing
> > snapshot. Both have the exact same problem.
> >
> > Can anyone help?
>
> I just recent got a Thinkpad T30, and now I'm having the same problem,
> after installing Lenny on it, using a netinstall cd.
> During bootup I noticed these messages, and there are comparatively
> long pauses between them:
>
> DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
> DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
> DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14
> DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
> DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
> DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
>
> No DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
> Done.
>
> During other bootups, those interval numbers vary.
> Personally I have no idea what to make out of this, but could it shed
> some light on it for others?
You don't give enough information to really help troubleshooting these
problems. ie Gome or KDE or standard wireless setup. Any useful
answer depends, at least, on knowing which you are using to connect to
your AP.
As I only use /etc/network/interfaces and dhclient to connect to an
AP, all I can offer is, let us see what that file look like.
W
--
To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide
a test load.
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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:28:12 +0100
From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: CUPS: Shared printers not shown
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On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 15:42:32 +0100, Claudius Hubig wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've got the following systems, all connected to the local network:
>
> A: Running Debian Etch, no printer connected
> B: Running Debian Etch, Epson Stylus C86 connected & published
> C: Running Debian Sid, Canon IP 4200 connected & published
> D: Running Debian Etch, no printer connected
>
> A sees all the printers in the network and is able to print on them,
> the same goes for B. C only sees the IP 4200 (and can print on it),
> while D seems to have absolutely no clue where to print.
>
> I just set this up using the webinterface from CUPS, published those
> printers and asked it to show published printers from other systems -
> this worked for A and B.
>
> Now my question: How can I make the two printers be visible on D and
> the Epson Stylus be shown on C?
>
> There seems to be absolutely no information about this in the net,
> thus I'd really welcome any hints available.
Can each machine see the shares on the other hosts if you use the tools
from the "smbclient" package? The printers should be listed if you run
smbclient -U USERNAME -L //HOSTNAME
(Change "USERNAME" and "HOSTNAME" as is appropriate for your network;
you will be prompted for the SMB password if necessary.)
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Florian |
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:34:14 +0100
From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: RE : going from etch to unstable (sid)
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On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 22:52:43 +0000, Bogdan Marian wrote:
> hyjial wrote:
>> Hey !
>> You can just change all the occurances of the word
>> "etch" for "sid" in your /etc/apt/sources.list .
>> Then run "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade".
>> There must be another - more proper way - to do this
>> with "apt-get dist-upgrade" but I've never used it.
>> See man 8 apt-get for details.
>> H.
>>
> Hey,
>
> I did just that. However, it lists some packages that are being kept
> back...is that ok?
Did you use "upgrade" or "dist-upgrade"?
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Florian |
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:02:17 +0000
From: steef <steefvanduin@zonnet.nl>
To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Tool to configure sound
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Bruno Costacurta wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I installed Debian Etch but have no sound at all.
> Previous Fedora installation gave sounds so probably my Etch is missing some
> setup.
> Drivers looks correctly installed as 'lsmod' shows following drivers :
> ..
> snd_hda_intel 17332 3
> snd_hda_codec 137856 1 snd_hda_intel
> snd_pcm_oss 38368 0
> snd_mixer_oss 15200 1 snd_pcm_oss
> snd_pcm 68676 4 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
> snd_timer 20996 2 snd_pcm
> ..
>
> Is there tool (ie. like system-config-sound) to setup and check sound setup ?
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Bye,
> Bruno
>
>
>
hi bruno, beside all the good advice you received:
in my experience hda-intel gives problems when i use the built-in
kernel-modules in the 2.6.18 kernels and their predecessors.
their are several ways to circumvent this problem (see the archive of
this list).
i chose a rather radical way. i got the alsa-driver, alsa-libs and
alsa-utils from the alsa website; compiled them in /usr/src/alsa and
(the libs and utils) in my home-directory and installed them. i started
installing the driver doing as root : #./configure --with-cards=hda-intel.
since that time (rather long ago) my onboard nvidia sound chip hda-intel
works perfect.
regards,
steef
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:05:30 -0400
From: Mark Grieveson <dg135@torfree.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more?
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:34:19 -0400
Mark Grieveson <dg135@torfree.net> wrote:
> I don't think so. I tried installing other screensavers, IE,
> the package electricsheep, and it did not appear in the list of
> available screensavers in gnome-screensaver.
Alas, I think I responded too quickly. From another user, who
suggested the rss-glx package, I did get additional screensavers in
gnome-screensaver.
Mark
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