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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2697

Today's Topics: 

  Re: gateway with one interface        [ Bob  ]
  Re: Best Kernel?                      [ "David Fox"  ]
  Re: Best Kernel?                      [ "David Fox"  ]
  Re: Best Kernel?                      [ Jeff Grossman  ]
  Re: Contacts printing                 [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  Re: Contacts printing                 [ Raj Kiran Grandhi  ]
  Re: USB external hard drive spin dow  [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  mutt and IMAP accounts                [ Richard Otte  ]
  Telnet/SSH Terminal Help              [ Jeff Grossman  ]

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:29:39 +0800
From: Bob <spam@homeurl.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: gateway with one interface 

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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 11:54:57AM +0500, meekaaku kaaku wrote:
>
>> I have a small LAN with about 3 windows machiens, 1 debian server
>> (etch), and adsl router with 4 ports.
>> Currently, I am using the router as a gateway (192.168.0.1), and the
>> debian server is 192.168.0.254. The client machiens are configured to
>> use 192.168.0.1 as a gateway.
>>
>> What i need to do is to use the linux server 192.168.0.254 as a
>> gateway for all the client machines, thereby i can monitor traffic and
>> gives me more control. But the problem is the debian machine has only
>> one interface and it is not directly connected to internet. It is also
>> using the router as the gateway to internet (just like the other
>> client machines).
>>
>> So my question is, can this be done? if so any pointers is
>> appreciated. I have checked routing/iptables info on the web, but in
>> all the cases, the linux machine is directly connected to the net and
>> has two interfaces.
>>
>
> NICs are so cheap, just add a second one. Sure, its possible, but to
> what end? The packets will only flow through the debian box if
> everything else agrees to do so. That will only happen untill something
> is rooted. A dog off-lease responding to voice commands is not under
> controll but suggestion; neither when a squirrel runs by.
>
> Doug.
>

Seconded, to make this work you need to have a switch that supports vlans, the one in your router probably does, so if you can get that to work you don't need to buy anything, however if you have to get one it will cost more than a new Ethernet card, I pick up nice 10/100 Mb/s (3Com, Intel, sis900, NOT Realtek though I gather their newer chipsets are better) secondhand for 5~10US.

Good luck.

Do you need help?X

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:59:11 -0700
From: "David Fox" <dfox94085@gmail.com>
To: "Debian Users" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Best Kernel? 

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On 10/27/07, Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com> wrote:

> First off, can I use the amd64 kernel with a Sempron processor? I am
> not sure if it has support for 64 bit programs. If not, of the other

If you can do a 'cat /proc/cpuinfo" you should see a "lm" entry on the Flags line. If that is there, then the processor will be able to do amd-64. If not, it won't.

If it can't do the 64-bit, then the best option is a k7 kernel for your processor.

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:18:02 -0700
From: "David Fox" <dfox94085@gmail.com>
To: "Debian Users" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Best Kernel? 

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On 10/28/07, Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com> wrote:
>
> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov
> pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm
> 3dnowext 3dnow

I see an 'lm" there. Have you tried booting a 64bit system (ubuntu x86-64, perhaps). What I've read suggests that the 'lm' indicates long mode, or 64 bit stuff.

My brother has a sempron based system (compaq, I think) but I don't know if his has an earlier or later stepping of the sempron, but his machine will boot a 64bit system.

On the other hand, I didn't see anything that obviously pointed out that the cpu is 64 bit capable in the 'cpuid' output.

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:03:10 -0700
From: Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com>
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Best Kernel? 

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David Fox wrote:
> On 10/27/07, Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com> wrote:
>
>
>> First off, can I use the amd64 kernel with a Sempron processor? I am
>> not sure if it has support for 64 bit programs. If not, of the other
>>
>
> If you can do a 'cat /proc/cpuinfo" you should see a "lm" entry on the
> Flags line. If that is there, then the processor will be able to do
> amd-64. If not, it won't.
>
> If it can't do the 64-bit, then the best option is a k7 kernel for
> your processor.
>
>

Nope. Here is the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' 

processor       : 0
vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
cpu family      : 15
model           : 28
model name      : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2800+
stepping        : 0
cpu MHz         : 1599.659
cache size      : 256 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 1
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow
 up ts ttp
bogomips : 3200.84
clflush size : 64

And, here is the output of cpuid

Can't find what you're looking for?X

 eax in eax ebx ecx edx 00000000 00000001 68747541 444d4163 69746e65 00000001 00010fc0 00000800 00000000 078bfbff 80000000 80000018 68747541 444d4163 69746e65 80000001 00010fc0 00000884 00000000 e3d3fbff 80000002 20444d41 706d6553 286e6f72 20296d74 80000003 636f7250 6f737365 38322072 002b3030 80000004 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000005 ff08ff08 ff20ff20 40020140 40020140 80000006 00000000 42004200 01008140 00000000 80000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000009 80000008 00003028 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000009 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 8000000a 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 8000000b 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 8000000c 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 8000000d 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 8000000e 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 8000000f 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000010 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000011 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000012 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000013 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000014 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000015 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000016 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000017 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000018 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

Vendor ID: "AuthenticAMD"; CPUID level 1

AMD-specific functions
Version 00010fc0:
Family: 15 Model: 12 []

Standard feature flags 078bfbff:
Floating Point Unit
Virtual Mode Extensions
Debugging Extensions
Page Size Extensions
Time Stamp Counter (with RDTSC and CR4 disable bit) Model Specific Registers with RDMSR & WRMSR PAE - Page Address Extensions
Machine Check Exception
COMPXCHG8B Instruction
APIC
SYSCALL/SYSRET or SYSENTER/SYSEXIT instructions MTRR - Memory Type Range Registers
Global paging extension
Machine Check Architecture
Conditional Move Instruction
PAT - Page Attribute Table
PSE-36 - Page Size Extensions
19 - reserved
MMX instructions
FXSAVE/FXRSTOR
25 - reserved
26 - reserved
Generation: 15 Model: 12
Extended feature flags e3d3fbff:
Floating Point Unit
Virtual Mode Extensions
Debugging Extensions
Page Size Extensions
Time Stamp Counter (with RDTSC and CR4 disable bit) Model Specific Registers with RDMSR & WRMSR PAE - Page Address Extensions
Machine Check Exception
COMPXCHG8B Instruction
APIC
SYSCALL/SYSRET or SYSENTER/SYSEXIT instructions MTRR - Memory Type Range Registers
Global paging extension
Machine Check Architecture
Conditional Move Instruction
PAT - Page Attribute Table
PSE-36 - Page Size Extensions
20 - reserved
AMD MMX Instruction Extensions
MMX instructions
FXSAVE/FXRSTOR
25 - reserved
29 - reserved
3DNow! Instruction Extensions
3DNow instructions

Processor name string: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2800+ L1 Cache Information:
2/4-MB Pages:

   Data TLB: associativity 255-way #entries 8    Instruction TLB: associativity 255-way #entries 8 4-KB Pages:

   Data TLB: associativity 255-way #entries 32    Instruction TLB: associativity 255-way #entries 32 L1 Data cache:

   size 64 KB associativity 2-way lines per tag 1 line size 64 L1 Instruction cache:

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   size 64 KB associativity 2-way lines per tag 1 line size 64

L2 Cache Information:
2/4-MB Pages:

   Data TLB: associativity L2 off #entries 0    Instruction TLB: associativity L2 off #entries 0 4-KB Pages:

   Data TLB: associativity 2-way #entries 0    Instruction TLB: associativity 2-way #entries 0    size 1 KB associativity L2 off lines per tag 129 line size 64

Advanced Power Management Feature Flags
Has temperature sensing diode
Maximum linear address: 48; maximum phys address 40

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:23:16 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Contacts printing 

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On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 12:33:32AM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 11:56:02PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
> >> I managed to sync my mobile phone to the PC with opensync, so I copied the
> >> Contacts into the file system.
> >>
> >> Then I fetched them with Evolution, but I don't like the way it prints them
> >> out, and it doesn't seem to be customizable.
> >>
> >> If anyone out there has experience with the matter, I wish a way to print the
> >> Contacts (about 300) that I have stored in a directory, one per file.
> >> Thunderbird does not seem to work: it can't import them.
>
> > One contact record per file??? Sounds like something windows would do.
>
> It's just the way opensync works when using the file-sync plugin.
>
> > I think you just need to write a script in your favorite language to
> > parse the files and format it to your liking then just print it out.
> >
> > In what languages can you program? (bash, python, perl, ada, C,
> > Fortran...)?
>
> Every file is like this:
>
> BEGIN:VCARD
 > VERSION:2.1
 > N:;Oliver Hardy ;;;
> TEL;CELL:3391234567
 > TEL;VOICE;HOME:081123567
 > FN:Oliver Hardy
> END:VCARD
 >
> , so the major problem would be sorting: how to sort whole items like that?
> *Is* it possible, and any idea of how?

Confused? Frustrated?X

Well its possible. The how is back to your choice of language. If you want to use grep, you could just rgrep them or something.

If you just want a list printed, assuming that there is at least a blank line at the top or bottom of every file, you could just cat them together then print the file. It won't be sorted unless the file names are sorted already.

You could use python to read the files, and create your printout; it could even put it into a database for you.

So, assume that anything is possible:

  1. What do you want to do?
  2. In what language do you want to do it?

Doug.

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:47:58 -0400
From: Marty <martyb@ix.netcom.com>
To: debian list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: USB external hard drive spin down problem 

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On my Etch system a new Western Digital USB external hard drive seems to be automatically spinning itself down after a period of inactivity, and causing the USB controller to become unresponsive to all USB devices until the system is rebooted.

Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

I don't see any other problems. Based on my web search, it seems to be an old issue in Debian and some spinoff distros, with no clear resolutions that I could find. The exact behavior has been reported several times, but rarely and few of the reports are recent. My current workaround is to keep the drive busy while I am using it. I am hoping that there is some configuration or tool that resolves or works around this problem, which I am not aware of.

Thanks for any theories or solutions.

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:45:24 +0530
From: Raj Kiran Grandhi <grajkiran@gmail.com> To: Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Contacts printing 

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Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> I managed to sync my mobile phone to the PC with opensync, so I copied the
> Contacts into the file system.
>
> Then I fetched them with Evolution, but I don't like the way it prints them
> out, and it doesn't seem to be customizable.
>

If you imported the contacts into evolution, then you should be able to export them in csv format. (I think you should be able to, I have not tried) Then just import it into some spreadsheet, format it the way you like and print it.

Raj Kiran

Do you need help?X

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:01:00 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Switching kernel config from x86_64 to i686 

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On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 07:17:29PM -0400, Frederick N. Brier wrote:
> I made the mistake of taking a default or selecting the wrong kernel (my
> machine is an AMD X2). So I now have a 64 bit kernel (x86_64), which I
> have read is "transitional". Since so many packages are only 32 bit, my
> life has gotten complex trying to make everything work and with
> contemplations of 32 bit UMLs (which apparently have their own issues).
> So... I would like to switch my system to a plain old i686 optimized 32
> bit version of Debian.

What do you mean "transitional"? What exactly are you using for a kernle? It should be amd64 Current stable Etch kernel uname -a:

Linux titan 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Oct 2 20:37:02 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/linux

The _only_ thing you can't do on Etch amd64 directly is flash player for the browsers since there is no such thing as an amd64 flash player. In Etch, you need to put the browser and flash in an i386 chroot (which isn't that much of a deal); on Lenny there's a wrapper to make that un-necessary.

What do you mean by "so many packages are only 32 bit?"

If you have 32-bit apps (other than flash), they will likely work directly if you install the 32-bit libs since amd64 can run 32-bit apps concurrently.

>
> What is the easiest way to do this? I really do not want to reinstall.
> I setup a software RAID, have installed a large number of packages,
> copied a bunch of data onto the drives, done a fair bit of
> configuration, even built 64 bit versions of the Digium drivers. I am
> guessing I need to rebuild the kernel as 32 bit (any URLs to doc on how
> to do this would be wonderful). Do I need to do anything else to
> install 32 bit versions of all the packages? Or am I screwed? I have
> primarily used aptitude for package management, except for Asterisk,
> which I checked out of Subversion and built. Is there an easy way to
> install 32 bit versions of all the packages? Or make sure that a 32 bit
> compatible version is installed? Thank you for any help.

Do you need more help?X

If you installed amd64 and want i386 then you have to reinstall.

Doug.

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:02:31 +1100
From: hce <webmail.hce@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: GLIBC_2.4 

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Hi,

I am installing mutt and got an error of "GLIBC_2.4 is missing", I searched the Debian package, but could not found it. Which of Debian package contains the GLIBC_2.4?

Also, which http source should I add it to the source.list? I tried to download postfix-dev by apt-get install postfix-dev, but could not find it.

Thank you.

Can we help you?X

Kind Regards,

Jim

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:06:15 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: USB external hard drive spin down problem 

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On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:47:58PM -0400, Marty wrote:
> On my Etch system a new Western Digital USB external hard drive seems to be
> automatically spinning itself down after a period of inactivity, and
> causing the USB controller to become unresponsive to all USB devices until
> the system is rebooted.
>
> I don't see any other problems. Based on my web search, it seems to be an
> old issue in Debian and some spinoff distros, with no clear resolutions
> that I could find. The exact behavior has been reported several times, but
> rarely and few of the reports are recent. My current workaround is to keep
> the drive busy while I am using it. I am hoping that there is some
> configuration or tool that resolves or works around this problem, which I
> am not aware of.

Try hdparm to turn off the drive's auto-spindown.

Doug.

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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:09:33 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: GLIBC_2.4 

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On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:02:31PM +1100, hce wrote:
>
> I am installing mutt and got an error of "GLIBC_2.4 is missing", I
> searched the Debian package, but could not found it. Which of Debian
> package contains the GLIBC_2.4?
>
> Also, which http source should I add it to the source.list? I tried to
> download postfix-dev by apt-get install postfix-dev, but could not
> find it.

Send us your sources list. Something is strange. Etch's libc6 is at 2.3.6 and is a required package, there is no 2.4.

Doug.

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:32:37 -0400
From: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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Using Debian Sid, knode 0.10.5, kde 3.5.8, Qt 3.3.7. After sometime knode crashed with the following backtrace

Using host libthread_db library "/lib/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1". 

[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]

Confused? Frustrated?X

[New Thread 0x422c6a60 (LWP 22053)]
[New Thread 0x42a2db90 (LWP 22054)]
[KCrash handler]

#6 0x40d36972 in QObject::isWidgetType (this=0x9e) at ../include/qobject.h:89
#7 0x40d96173 in QApplication::notify (this=0xbf891f7c, receiver=0x9e,
Don't know where to look next?X

    e=0xbf891d08) at kernel/qapplication.cpp:2357 #8 0x40728622 in KApplication::notify (this=0xbf891f7c, receiver=0x9e,

    event=0xbf891d08)
    at /build/buildd/kdelibs-3.5.8.dfsg.1/./kdecore/kapplication.cpp:550 #9 0x40d256c9 in QApplication::sendEvent (receiver=0x9e, event=0xbf891d08)

    at ../include/qapplication.h:520
#10 0x40d871b1 in QEventLoop::activateTimers (this=0x80861e8)

    at kernel/qeventloop_unix.cpp:556
#11 0x40d3a19a in QEventLoop::processEvents (this=0x80861e8, flags=4)

    at kernel/qeventloop_x11.cpp:389 

#12 0x40daf6e4 in QEventLoop::enterLoop (this=0x80861e8)
    at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:198
#13 0x40daf3e2 in QEventLoop::exec (this=0x80861e8)
    at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:145

#14 0x40d95f13 in QApplication::exec (this=0xbf891f7c)

    at kernel/qapplication.cpp:2758
#15 0x0805034a in main (argc=1093320352, argv=0x1)

    at /build/buildd/kdepim-3.5.8/./knode/main.cpp:42 #16 0x402d1050 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #17 0x0804ecb1 in _start ()

Since I am unable to reproduce the bug consistently, I could not report it to the BTS. I am posting here to see if someone can reproduce the bug in a consistent fashion and possibly offer a fix.

Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

thanks
raju 

-- 
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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:10:44 -0500 (CST) From: "Orestes Leal" <orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu> To: "Frederick N. Brier" <fbrier@multideck.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Switching kernel config from x86_64 to i686 Message-ID: <64249.192.168.250.8.1193627444.squirrel@correo.ciudad.jovenclub.cu> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the root of the kernel sources do a make menuconfig, goto processor ty= pe and features and select the wanted option, recompile the kernel, install the kernel, update the bootloader and you're done, for the other stuff I don't know because me english it's a little scarse (yet), good luck friend. olr =3D=3D=3D El Dom, 28 de Octubre de 2007, 6:17 pm, Frederick N. Brier escribi=C3=B3:
> I made the mistake of taking a default or selecting the wrong kernel (m=
y
> machine is an AMD X2). So I now have a 64 bit kernel (x86_64), which I
> have read is "transitional". Since so many packages are only 32 bit, m=
y
> life has gotten complex trying to make everything work and with
> contemplations of 32 bit UMLs (which apparently have their own issues).
> So... I would like to switch my system to a plain old i686 optimized 32
> bit version of Debian.
>
> What is the easiest way to do this? I really do not want to reinstall.
> I setup a software RAID, have installed a large number of packages,
> copied a bunch of data onto the drives, done a fair bit of
> configuration, even built 64 bit versions of the Digium drivers. I am
> guessing I need to rebuild the kernel as 32 bit (any URLs to doc on how
> to do this would be wonderful). Do I need to do anything else to
> install 32 bit versions of all the packages? Or am I screwed? I have
> primarily used aptitude for package management, except for Asterisk,
> which I checked out of Subversion and built. Is there an easy way to
> install 32 bit versions of all the packages? Or make sure that a 32 bi=
t
> compatible version is installed? Thank you for any help.
>
> Frederick N. Brier
>
>
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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:06:59 -0700 From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude Message-id: <20071028170659.GA5642@alpaca> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 10:12:31AM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu> was heard to say:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:01:02 -0700
> Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com> wrote:
>
> > I was just reading the forums at forums.debian.org and came across a
> > thread about apt-get and aptitude. I just installed Debian this week
> > after moving over from Gentoo. I have only been using the apt-get
> > method because that is all I ever saw mentioned. But, I guess aptitude
> > is the preferred Debian method now. Is there a safe way for me to start
> > using aptitude instead of apt-get? What is the best way for me to make
> > the switch?
>
> For new installs it is actually recommended to use aptitude. However, from following the recent apt-get vs aptitude threads, there doesn't seem to be any big difference between the two. So if you are comfortable with apt-get there is no need to switch.
I'd say the main difference is that apt-get is a command-line tool, whereas aptitude is an interactive tool that can be driven from the command-line. Daniel

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:25:15 -0500 From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: debian repositories - connection refused Message-ID: <20071029032515.GB9574@oplink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline A day or two ago I began getting a "111 connection refused" error when attempting to access the debian repositories with Synaptic. The command "aptitude update" also hangs. However, Internet access with browser and mail appears to be normal. Can someone recommend a diagnostic procedure? RLH

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:33:54 -0400 From: "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: cannot open vnc session for one user from this machine Message-ID: <fg3nri$56t$1@ger.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am not able to get xtightvncviewer to work for a particular user on a remote machine from my machine running Debian Testing. It works for a different user on the remote machine. And it works for that particular user from another machine here from my home! It is only my Testing machine on which it doesn't work for only that one user. If I try to open a session, I get: $> xtightvncviewer -encodings "copyrect hextile" localhost:1 xtightvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused Unable to connect to VNC server This same command works for other users on the remote machine, and for all users on the remote machine from a different local machine. Where could the problem be? I am quite baffled by all this actually. ->HS

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:34:14 -0700 From: Richard Otte <ric@otte.ucsc.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: mutt and IMAP accounts Message-ID: <20071029043414.GA3219@perelandra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I am trying to set up mutt to access IMAP accounts. I can access them, but I want to be able to move to the available mailboxes when I type c (and it says to type '?' to see the mailboxes and then select a mailbox. I can see the mailboxes, but if I choose one, I get a line that says: 1 IMAP and if I click on that, I simply get the list of mailboxes again; I can never open a mailbox. If I eventually type 'y', I go back to the main mailbox. I can move to the mailboxes if I type 'c' and then type "= name of the mailbox". I am also trying to access two imap accounts, and be able to see the various mailboses in each of them. The relevant parts of my .muttrc read: set mbox_type=Maildir #for maildir mailboxes set imap_idle set imap_user=MYNAME set folder=imaps://XXXXX.edu/ set spoolfile=imaps://XXXXX.edu/ set header_cache="~/Maildir/cache/headers" set message_cachedir="~/Maildir/cache/bodies" set mail_check=300 account-hook imaps://XXXXX.edu/ \ 'set record=imaps://XXXXX.edu/sent ; \ set imap_user=MYACCOUNTNAME ;\ set imap_pass=MYPASSWORD ;\ set spoolfile=imaps://XXXXX.edu/ ;\ set folder= imaps://XXXXX.edu/' account-hook imaps://NAME@YYYYY.edu \ 'set record=imaps://NAME@YYYYY.edu/outbox ; \ set imap_user=NAME ;\ set imap_pass=PASSWORD ;\ set spoolfile=imaps://YYYYY.edu/in ;\ set folder= imaps://YYYYY.edu/' Any suggestions on how to get mutt to do what I want it to? Thanks, Ric

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:37:06 -0700 From: Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com> To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help Message-ID: <47256372.6080806@stikman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either Telnet or SSH from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like aptitude or mc it does not show any lines just funky characters for the lines. I did a screen shot and put it up on my webpage if anybody would like to take a look and tell me what I have configured wrong. http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay.jpg Thanks, Jeff End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2697 ************************************************** Received on Mon Oct 29 00:57:42 2007

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