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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2698

Today's Topics: 

  Re: mutt and IMAP accounts            [ Kevin Mark  ]
  Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude               [ Manoj Srivastava  ]
  Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude               [ Daniel Burrows  ]
  Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help          [ Nate Duehr  ]
  Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude               [ Nate Duehr  ]
  Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help          [ Tim Gruene  ]
  Re: Debian server software setup que  [ Jochen Schulz  ]
  Re: Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with   [ Marcin Owsiany 
  Re: Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with   [ mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris ]
  Re: going from etch to unstable (sid  [ mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris ]



Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:38:56 -0400


From: Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: mutt and IMAP accounts

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On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:34:14PM -0700, Richard Otte wrote:

> I am trying to set up mutt to access IMAP accounts.  I can access them, but I
> want to be able to move to the available mailboxes when I type c (and it says
> to type '?' to see the mailboxes and then select a mailbox.  I can see the
> mailboxes, but if I choose one, I get a line that says:
>     1   IMAP

> and if I click on that, I simply get the list of mailboxes again; I can never
> open a mailbox.  If I eventually type 'y', I go back to the main mailbox.
> I can move to the mailboxes if I type 'c' and then type "= name of the
> mailbox".
> 
> I am also trying to access two imap accounts, and be able to see the various
> mailboses in each of them.  
> 
> The relevant parts of my .muttrc read:
> Any suggestions on how to get mutt to do what I want it to?

<snip>

> Thanks,


I am trying to do the same thing with gmail imap and mutt and I get the
same results. I tried adding 'mailboxes "+nylug-talk"' to my muttrc and
it then showed that mailbox, otherwise, I had to typed in the mailbox to
read it.


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Date:  Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:13:23 -0500
From: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@ieee.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:06:59 -0700, Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> said: 


>   I'd say the main difference is that apt-get is a command-line tool,
> whereas aptitude is an interactive tool that can be driven from the
> command-line.


        Are there still command line usages of apt-get that are not
 exactly the same in aptitude?  And has apt-get started keeping track of
 automatically installed packages, so cruft removal is not an issue with
 apt-get, as it has been in the past?

        manoj
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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:15:44 -0400
From: Marty <martyb@ix.netcom.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: USB external hard drive spin down problem
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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:47:58PM -0400, Marty wrote:

>> On my Etch system a new Western Digital USB external hard drive seems to be 
>> automatically spinning itself down after a period of inactivity, and 
>> causing the USB controller to become unresponsive to all USB devices until 
>> the system is rebooted.
>> 
>> I don't see any other problems.  Based on my web search, it seems to be an 
>> old issue in Debian and some spinoff distros, with no clear resolutions 
>> that I could find.  The exact behavior has been reported several times, but 
>> rarely and few of the reports are recent.  My current workaround is to keep 
>> the drive busy while I am using it.  I am hoping that there is some 
>> configuration or tool that resolves or works around this problem, which I 
>> am not aware of.

> 
> Try hdparm to turn off the drive's auto-spindown.  
> 
> Doug.
> 
> 


# hdparm -S0 /dev/sdb

/dev/sdb:
  setting standby to 0 (off)
  HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setidle1) failed: Invalid argument

I think you are on right track.  I want the sdparm equivalent but I don't see 
anything in the sdparm man or info page.


Do you need more help?X

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:31:07 -0700
From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude
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On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 12:13:23AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@ieee.org> was heard to say:

> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:06:59 -0700, Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> said: 
> 
> >   I'd say the main difference is that apt-get is a command-line tool,
> > whereas aptitude is an interactive tool that can be driven from the
> > command-line.
> 
>         Are there still command line usages of apt-get that are not
>  exactly the same in aptitude?


  Identical behavior to apt-get has never been a goal for me, so the
answer is almost certainly "yes".  (not that I gratuitously break
apt-get compatibility; it's just not something I track one way or the
other unless I get bug reports)


>  And has apt-get started keeping track of
>  automatically installed packages, so cruft removal is not an issue with
>  apt-get, as it has been in the past?


  Yes, in sid.

  Daniel



Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:11:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Labens <adlabens@swbell.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Debian server software setup question
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I'm interested in the Debian Linux software for use in
building a home file server.  I'll need it to provide
print server function as well as file backup and UPS
shutdown support.  Also, I want clients on my Win'XP
Professional desktops so that they can login to the
server.  Separate and common file storage space is
needed, based upon user.  All boxes on my router are
DHCP with the router providing IP Addressing functions
(tho it could all be configured static.

I'm going to run it on a P3-800 with 640 MB ram.

Does Debian have all that I need?

I appreciate your response.

Thank you,
David Labens
San Antonio, TX



Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:11:44 -0600
From: Nate Duehr <nate@natetech.com>
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help
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On Oct 28, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote:


> I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either  
> Telnet or SSH from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like  
> aptitude or mc it does not show any lines just funky characters for  
> the lines. I did a screen shot and put it up on my webpage if  
> anybody would like to take a look and tell me what I have configured  
> wrong.

>

> http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay.jpg



That looks similar to some things I saw when SSH'ing from a Mac OSX  
machine to a Debian system and running Aptitude.

Switching the Mac's Terminal application over to using "xterm-color"  
for the terminal type, straightened it right up.

Even if you're not on a Mac, it's a problem with the terminal  
emulation of the machine you're on, and what the terminal emulation is  
set up as on the Debian machine in $TERM in the shell.

You can probably find a combination that works properly though, if you  
hunt a bit.  Don't forget to "reset" in the shell each time you change  
your terminal emulation on your machine you're testing from, if you're  
not disconnecting and reconnecting.

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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:14:18 -0600
From: Nate Duehr <nate@natetech.com>
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude
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On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Daniel Burrows wrote:


> On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 10:12:31AM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu 
> > was heard to say:

>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:01:02 -0700
>> Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was just reading the forums at forums.debian.org and came across a
>>> thread about apt-get and aptitude.  I just installed Debian this  
>>> week
>>> after moving over from Gentoo.  I have only been using the apt-get
>>> method because that is all I ever saw mentioned.  But, I guess  
>>> aptitude
>>> is the preferred Debian method now.  Is there a safe way for me to  
>>> start
>>> using aptitude instead of apt-get?  What is the best way for me to  
>>> make
>>> the switch?
>>
>> For new installs it is actually recommended to use aptitude.  
>> However, from following the recent apt-get vs aptitude threads,  
>> there doesn't seem to be any big difference between the two. So if  
>> you are comfortable with apt-get there is no need to switch.
>

>  I'd say the main difference is that apt-get is a command-line tool,
> whereas aptitude is an interactive tool that can be driven from the
> command-line.



I would disagree.  Aptitude supports command-line operation as well as  
interactive.

aptitude install <packagename>
aptitude update
aptitude upgrade
aptitude remove <packagename>  <-- Added benefit, cruft goes away too.

All work just fine... and don't launch the CUI.  (Character User  
Interface?)

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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:17:19 +0100 (CET)
From: Tim Gruene <tim@runnwerth.net>
To: Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com>
Cc: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710290716470.3814@goofy.entenhausen.net>
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It might help to use a standard language setting, like
  export LC_ALL=C
before you start the command.


On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Jeff Grossman wrote:


> I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either Telnet or SSH 
> from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like aptitude or mc it does 
> not show any lines just funky characters for the lines. I did a screen shot 
> and put it up on my webpage if anybody would like to take a look and tell me 
> what I have configured wrong.

>

> http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay.jpg

>

> Thanks,
> Jeff

>
>

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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:38:59 +0100
From: Jochen Schulz <ml@well-adjusted.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian server software setup question
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David Labens:

> I'm interested in the Debian Linux software for use in
> building a home file server.  I'll need it to provide
> print server function=20


CUPS.


> as well as file backup


Several options, depending on your needs.


> and UPS shutdown support.


Depends on UPS in use. Many are supported, as far as I know.


> Also, I want clients on my Win'XP
> Professional desktops so that they can login to the
> server.


TightVNC or some other VNC server.


> Separate and common file storage space is
> needed, based upon user.


Samba. This can also export your CUPS printers to Windows systems and
provide them with the necessary driver.


> I'm going to run it on a P3-800 with 640 MB ram.


Might be a little slow if you have several users connected at once.


> Does Debian have all that I need?


Yes. As does every other linux distribution. ;-)

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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:55:39 +0000
From: Marcin Owsiany <porridge@debian.org>
To: Andraz Sraka <a@aufbix.org>
Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with PERC 5/i RAID controller
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On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 12:13:37AM +0100, Andraz Sraka wrote:

> On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 10:49 +0000, Marcin Owsiany wrote:
> > afaapps_2.6-3_i386.deb from http://www.brandl.net/pe2550/ works for me
> > on the etch kernel. Also, the kernel logs any problems that appear, so
> > logcheck will do for healh monitoring.
> 
> Are you sure that this tool works with PERC 5/i?! I think it was written
> for older version PERC controllers or I am typing wrong command in? :(


Oops, I checked properly now, and you are probably right. I have a
different controller :-/

Sorry for the confusion.

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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:47:34 +0100
From: "Martin Marcher" <martin@marcher.name>
To: "Kevin Mark" <kevin.mark@verizon.net>,
	debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: mutt and IMAP accounts
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2007/10/29, Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net>:

> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:34:14PM -0700, Richard Otte wrote:
> > I am trying to set up mutt to access IMAP accounts.  I can access them, but I
> > want to be able to move to the available mailboxes when I type c (and it says
> > to type '?' to see the mailboxes and then select a mailbox.  I can see the
> > mailboxes, but if I choose one, I get a line that says:
> >     1   IMAP
> > and if I click on that, I simply get the list of mailboxes again; I can never
> > open a mailbox.  If I eventually type 'y', I go back to the main mailbox.
> > I can move to the mailboxes if I type 'c' and then type "= name of the
> > mailbox".


see the check_subscribed option in the manual (imap_check_subscribed,
imap_list_subscribed may also be what you want)
less /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz

hth
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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:47:58 +0100
From: "Martin Marcher" <martin@marcher.name>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: mutt and IMAP accounts
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and now for the rest of the world :)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Martin Marcher <martin@marcher.name>
Date: 29.10.2007 08:47
Subject: Re: mutt and IMAP accounts
To: Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net>, debian-user@lists.debian.org


2007/10/29, Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net>:

> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:34:14PM -0700, Richard Otte wrote:
> > I am trying to set up mutt to access IMAP accounts.  I can access them, but I
> > want to be able to move to the available mailboxes when I type c (and it says
> > to type '?' to see the mailboxes and then select a mailbox.  I can see the
> > mailboxes, but if I choose one, I get a line that says:
> >     1   IMAP
> > and if I click on that, I simply get the list of mailboxes again; I can never
> > open a mailbox.  If I eventually type 'y', I go back to the main mailbox.
> > I can move to the mailboxes if I type 'c' and then type "= name of the
> > mailbox".


see the check_subscribed option in the manual (imap_check_subscribed,
imap_list_subscribed may also be what you want)
less /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz

hth
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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:24:21 +0100
From: Ivan Glushkov <glushkov@mail.desy.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
Subject: sn9c102 webcam
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Hi all,

I got an old, cheap Qware EasyCam webcam. I have no idea what is the 
model. In the end it does not metter much. I followed the LDP "The 
Webcam HOWTO" on http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Webcam-HOWTO/
Everything looks basically fine up to the point I try to get some 
information from my webcam. Trying to take a snapshot, I get:

~ % streamer -d -c /dev/video0 -b 16 -o test.jpeg
checking writer files [multiple image files] ...
   video name=ppm ext=ppm: ext mismatch [need jpeg]
   video name=pgm ext=pgm: ext mismatch [need jpeg]
   video name=jpeg ext=jpeg: OK
files / video: JPEG (JFIF) / audio: none
vid-open: trying: v4l2-old...
vid-open: failed: v4l2-old
vid-open: trying: v4l2...
v4l2: open
v4l2: device info:
   sn9c102 1.1.47 / SN9C1xx PC Camera @ usb-0000:00:1d.1-2
vid-open: ok: v4l2
movie_init_writer start
setformat: JPEG (JFIF) (320x240): failed
setformat: 12 bit YUV 4:2:0 (planar) (320x240): failed
setformat: 16 bit YUV 4:2:2 (planar) (320x240): failed
setformat: 24 bit TrueColor (BE: rgb) (320x240): failed
setformat: 24 bit TrueColor (LE: bgr) (320x240): failed
no way to get: 320x240 JPEG (JFIF)
movie writer initialisation failed
v4l2: close
~ %

The funny part is that the kopete devices configuration is showing me 
some black-green black low quality stream, which made me think that 
that's a driver issue. I compiled the latest kernel from kernel.org, 
which had newer version of the driver (1.1.47), but that did not change 
anything.

The v4l-info output looks fine to me:

### v4l2 device info [/dev/video0] ###
general info
     VIDIOC_QUERYCAP
	driver                  : "sn9c102"
	card                    : "SN9C1xx PC Camera"
	bus_info                : "usb-0000:00:1d.1-2"
	version                 : 1.1.47
	capabilities            : 0x5000001 [VIDEO_CAPTURE,READWRITE,STREAMING]

standards

inputs
     VIDIOC_ENUMINPUT(0)
	index                   : 0
	name                    : "Camera"
	type                    : CAMERA
	audioset                : 0
	tuner                   : 0
	std                     : 0x0 []
	status                  : 0x0 []

video capture
     VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT(0,VIDEO_CAPTURE)
	index                   : 0
	type                    : VIDEO_CAPTURE
	flags                   : 0
	description             : "bayer rgb"
	pixelformat             : 0x31384142 [BA81]
     VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT(1,VIDEO_CAPTURE)
	index                   : 1
	type                    : VIDEO_CAPTURE
	flags                   : 1
	description             : "compressed"
	pixelformat             : 0x30313953 [S910]
     VIDIOC_G_FMT(VIDEO_CAPTURE)
	type                    : VIDEO_CAPTURE
	fmt.pix.width           : 320
	fmt.pix.height          : 240
	fmt.pix.pixelformat     : 0x31384142 [BA81]
	fmt.pix.field           : NONE
	fmt.pix.bytesperline    : 320
	fmt.pix.sizeimage       : 76800
	fmt.pix.colorspace      : SRGB
	fmt.pix.priv            : 8

controls
     VIDIOC_QUERYCTRL(PRIVATE_BASE+0)
	id                      : 134217728
	type                    : INTEGER
	name                    : "DAC magnitude"
	minimum                 : 0
	maximum                 : 255
	step                    : 1
	default_value           : 4
	flags                   : 0
     VIDIOC_QUERYCTRL(PRIVATE_BASE+1)
	id                      : 134217729
	type                    : INTEGER
	name                    : "green balance"
	minimum                 : 0
	maximum                 : 15
	step                    : 1
	default_value           : 0
	flags                   : 0


Any idea how to solve the problem is welcome...


	Cheers,
	Ivan



Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:04:36 +0000
From: Anthony Campbell <ac@acampbell.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: What is a binNMU?
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On 28 Oct 2007, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

> Anthony Campbell wrote:
> 
> > I like to use wajig as a frontend to apt but it has been removed from
> > Sid because it depends on python-apt, which is also missing,  apparently
> > because of a binNMU connected with apt. I have no idea what a binNMU is.
> > Googling produces a lot of uses of the term but no explanation. I have
> > used Debian for a number of years but this is the first time I've heard
> > of it.
> > 
> > There was an upgrade of apt yesterday but this did not solve the
> > problem. Can someone kindly enlighten me about binNMU or point me to
> > some documentation about it?
> > 
> 
> A brief explanation can be found
> in /usr/share/doc/developers-reference/developers-reference.pdf section
> 5.11.9 - Terminology.
> 
> In short, NMU = non maintainer upload.
> binNMU = binary only NMU.
> source NMU = NMU that involves changes to source (either upstream or debian
> specific)
> 
> Usually, NMU without any qualifications refers to source NMU.
> 
> hth
> raju
> 
> -- 



Thanks to everyone for the clarification of this. I'm glad to say the
issue seems to have been resolved now and wajig is installable again.

Anthony

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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:17:05 -0400
From: mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris Bannister)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more?
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On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 05:27:36PM +0100, Martin Waller wrote:

> martin@papilio:~$ xscreensaver &
> [2] 10481
> [1]   Exit 127                xscrennsaver

                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^        

> martin@papilio:~$ Error: Cairo does not yet support the requested image 
> format:
>        Depth: 16
>        Alpha mask: 0x00000000
>        Red   mask: 0x0000003f
>        Green mask: 0x000007c0
>        Blue  mask: 0x0000f800
> Please file an enhacement request (quoting the above) at:

                 ^^^^^^^^^^
Hi Martin,

Were the errors, underlined above, the actual on screen errors as
printed? If so then it is sloppy coding and a bug should be filed.

If not, but caused by mistyping on your part, then could you please in
future either:

1) cut 'n' paste errors into your email client.
or
2) use the script program or redirection and then "read" the program
into your email program.

If you are using mutt + vim, then from within vim while you are
composing your mail:

 * move the cursor to where you want to type the errors produced

 * press <esc> to get in command mode

 * type :r filename
   where filename is the file either from using script or from using
   redirection.

Mistakes in transcribing error messages can only lead two confusions.
:-)

-- 
Chris.
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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:17:52 -0400
From: mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris Bannister)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Best Kernel?
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On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:20:40PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:12:21PM -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:
> > Well, if you install the 32bit userland + 64bit kernel + X.Org it wont
> > work. :-)
> 
> Huh?  Perhaps you should send the message to the amd64 list.  Someone
> there is probably doing this.
> 
> Doug.


Hi Doug,

Are you saying that you can install a 64bit kernel on a current 32bit
system and then end up with a running system.?

I thought you couldn't replace a 32bit kernel with a 64bit kernel but
had to *install* with an actual 64bit kernel to get any benefit. 

Or does the replacement 64bit kernel just run in 32bit mode? (although
that is still better than a 32bit kernel, apparently.)

-- 
Chris.
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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:18:03 -0400
From: mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris Bannister)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with PERC 5/i RAID controller
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On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 06:19:54PM +0200, Andraz Sraka wrote:

> Hello people,
> 
> are there any diagnostic/monitoring tools in linux (debian etch for
> instance) for monitoring Dell PERC 5/i RAID controller. I found that
> there are some utilities for RHEL/SuSE enterprise distribution. Has


Are they proprietry? If not, you can get the rpm and use the Debian package 
"alien" to convert it.

-- 
Chris.
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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:18:20 -0400
From: mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris Bannister)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: going from etch to unstable (sid)
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On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 01:47:55PM +0000, Bogdan Marian wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> The title says it all :). How do i proceed if i want to upgrade from 
> Etch to Sid? Of course, burning a Sid image and doing a from scratch 
> install is out of the question... I'm looking for another way
> 
> Bogdan


Hi Bogdan,

I would say: If you have to ask *this* question, then the answer would
be: Not recommended.

Why are you wanting to "jump" to Sid? There is no way to go back to Etch
if you don't like it.

If you just want newer software, check out http://debian.backports.org
(or something like that) but then, by definition, your system is no 
longer stable. 8-(

-- 
Chris.
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