debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2711

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2711

Today's Topics:

  Re: Charging iPod / Listening to mus  [ Richard Lyons  ]
  Re: Charging iPod / Listening to mus  [ Davide Mancusi  ]
  Re: creative zen management with com  [ Davide Mancusi  ]
  Re: Thinkpad T20 wireless troubles -  [ Wayne Topa  ]
  Re: GLIBC_2.4                         [ mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris ]
  Re: debian repositories - connection  [ mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris ]
  Re: Log Question                      [ "s. keeling"  ]
  long lines of ^@^@^@ ... in messages  [ "s. keeling"  ]
  Re: GLIBC_2.4                         [ hce  ]
  Re: Tool to configure sound           [ swhe  ]
  Re: Log Question                      [ Jeff Grossman  ]
  Re: creative zen management with com  [ "Russell L. Harris" 

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:58:56 +0100


From: Richard Lyons <richard@the-place.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Charging iPod / Listening to music
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On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 07:43:08PM -0400, steve wrote:

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> Richard Lyons wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 11:01:53PM +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> > 
> >>   When I plug my iPod using the USB cable I get the 'Do not
> >> disconnect' screen on the ipod. It's great because I can see the ipod
> >> is charging. But to listen to music I do not understand what I need to
> >> do. I tried:
> 
> its not possible to listen and charge an ipod on any platform with the
> "ipod firmware".  I went through this many years ago. Maybe look at
> rockbox?

In fact, this may be another advantage of the samsung.  You cannot
listen via the headphones when the USB is connected, but since you have
complete access to the filesystem while it is charging, I assume you
could listen via the computer.  If I get sound working on the laptop, I
test this.

-- 
richard

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:08:28 -0500
From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: creative zen management with command-line interface
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* cs <cs@networkingnewsletter.org.uk> [071030 16:00]:

> On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 17:43 -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:


>> I have been searching without success for a command-line tool to
>> manage a Creative Zen mp3 player.
>> 
>> The only Creative Zen management tool for Linux which I have
>> discovered thus far is gnomad2 (version 2.8.12-2 currently in the
>> Debian "testing" archive).
>> 
>> But gnomad2 (which has a GUI) crashes on occasion, takes forever to
>> delete a file, and appears to have left a corrupted file on my
>> Creative Zen.  (Thankfully, Creative built into the Zen a drive
>> clean-up utility.)  So for the Zen, I am using Creative Media
>> Source running in W2000.

> 
> Unfort I can't get gnomad2 (2.8.8-1.1) to detect my Zen - is there
> anything specific you had to do?
> Thanks, M
> 


I am running Debian "testing".  I did nothing other than to plug the
Zen (which is a "Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra") into my USB hub,
and gnomad2 was able to see it.

See the gnomad2 project page on sourceforge.net ("Getting your
Jukebox/Zen running under Linux").  See also the gnomad2 README.

I did experience inconsistent behaviour with the USB ports on my
desktop machine, which has an ASUS P4PE motherboard.  Plugging a cable
from the Zen directly into the machine did not always work, but
plugging into a Belkin USB hub which was plugged into the machine
worked every time.

>> I have used gnupod (command-line interface) with a 4th-generation
>> iPod.  It was an enjoyable experience.  I would like to find a tool
>> of this sort to manage the Creative Zen.

> 
> Did anybody suggest alternatives to gnomad2??


I have not seen a reply.


> 
> M
> 

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:14:49 -0600
From: Nate Duehr <nate@natetech.com>
To: Debian User Mailing List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Charging iPod / Listening to music
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On Oct 30, 2007, at 4:01 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:


> Hi there,

>

>  When I plug my iPod using the USB cable I get the 'Do not
> disconnect' screen on the ipod. It's great because I can see the ipod
> is charging. But to listen to music I do not understand what I need to
> do. I tried:

>

> $ eject /dev/sda
> -> return an error

>

>  Then I tried :

>

> $ sudo rmmod usb_storage


So you're shutting down the entire USB storage subsystem.  Good thing  
you don't have any other USB-based hard disks plugged in at the same  
time!


>  It works, I can listen to music again, but even if the cable is
> pluged it does not seems to be charging...


That makes sense.  USB devices have to "request" how much power-draw  
they want to pull from the host.  If you kill the "stuff" that talks  
to USB devices, they can't request power.

--
Nate Duehr
nate@natetech.com


Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:15:46 +0100
From: Davide Mancusi <arekfu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Charging iPod / Listening to music
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Richard Lyons ha scritto:
>>>>   When I plug my iPod using the USB cable I get the 'Do not
>>>> disconnect' screen on the ipod. It's great because I can see the ipod
>>>> is charging. But to listen to music I do not understand what I need to
>>>> do. I tried:
>> its not possible to listen and charge an ipod on any platform with the
>> "ipod firmware".  I went through this many years ago. Maybe look at
>> rockbox?

> 
> In fact, this may be another advantage of the samsung.  You cannot
> listen via the headphones when the USB is connected, but since you have
> complete access to the filesystem while it is charging, I assume you
> could listen via the computer.  If I get sound working on the laptop, I
> test this.


	You can actually do the same thing with an iPod using Amarok; it works 
for me. Oh, and my disconnection sequence is
$ umount /mnt/ipod && kdeeject /dev/ipod
where /dev/ipod is a udev-created symlink to the relevant iPod device.

HTH,
Davide

-- 
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--
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:19:16 +0100
From: Davide Mancusi <arekfu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: creative zen management with command-line interface
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Russell L. Harris ha scritto:

> I have used gnupod (command-line interface) with a 4th-generation
> iPod.  It was an enjoyable experience.  I would like to find a tool of
> this sort to manage the Creative Zen.


	Amarok has got a plugin to manage "Creative Nomad Jukebox" mp3 players. 
Might be worth a shot...

Hope that helps.
Davide

-- 
A tautology is a thing which is tautological.
--
Time flies like an arrow.  Fruit flies like a banana.


Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:22:13 -0400
From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Thinkpad T20 wireless troubles - revisited
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Sjoerd Hiemstra(shiems146@kpnplanet.nl) is reported to have said:

> In an effort to get wireless on my IBM Thinkpad T30 laptop working,
> Wayne Topa wrote:
> > Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:
> > > The installer saw three connection systems in the laptop:
> > >   - wireless connection with interface wifi0
> > >   - wireless connection with interface eth0
> > >   - ethernet connection with interface eth1.
> > > Odd enough, only eth0 worked, not wifi0 as one would expect.
> >
> > Now we need even more info.  Did you use the orinoco card to do the
> > install or was it eth1?  I suspect eth1 might be an IBM internal
> > Wireless interface.
> 
> The installer used eth0, as far as I recall.
> 
> > At a console prompt do
> > 
> > lspci -v 
> > 
> > Be sure the orinoco in plugged in when you run that.
> > That will tell us what the Network interfaces are.  They work in
> > windows so we have to find out what they are.  We need the lines like
> > these from my T40.  
> > 
> > 0000:02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B
> > Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
> > 
> > 0000:02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801BD PRO/100 VE (MOB)
> > Ethernet Controller (rev 81)
> 
> Relevant output of 'lspci -v':
> 
>     02:02.0 Network controller: AIRONET Wireless Communications Cisco
>     Aironet Wireless 802.11b
> 
>     02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801CAM (ICH3)
>     PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet controller (rev 42)
> 
> (As a sidenote, there's no orinoco card; the OP had one.)
> 
> > Most (all) IBM interfaces will work in Linux so you need to know what
> > modules have to be loaded before bringing the interfaces up.
> 
> >From [1] I found that I probably need to do a 'modprobe airo_cs'.
> 

Add the airo_cs to /etc/modules. ie 'cat airo_cs >> /etc/modules'
or put it in the interfaces file

auto eth1
interface eth1 inet dhcp
    pre-up modprobe airo_cs
    ....
    ....
    post-down rmmod airo_cs


> Following the directions at [2], the entry for wifi0
> in /etc/network/interfaces now looks like this:
> 
>     iface wifi0 inet dhcp
>     wireless-essid <....>
>     wireless-key <....>
>     auto wifi0
>     allow-hotplug wifi0
> 
> If I do an 'iwlist wifi0 scan' then my AP is detected correctly (as
> well as two neighbouring APs - interesting).
> 
> There is only one remaining obstacle.
> The following messages appear if I do an 'ifup wifi0'.
> They also appear after '/etc/init.d/networking stop' and then
> '/etc/init.d/networking start'.
> And they also appear if I do a 'dhclient wifi0'.
> 

Prior to doing the ifup, what does iwconfig show?

I have 5 wireless interfaces set up on my T40.  Some of them will not
come up if I do the 'iwconfig wlan0 essid "myAP"' _before_ I do the
'ifconfig wlan0 up'.  It seems to depend on the different drivers but
the ifconfig works, here, for all of them.

So I have a small script that I use to bring 
up which ever one I want to use.  The script brings up all the
interfaces in the same way.

1. Bring up the interface using 'ifconfig <interface>'
2. Run 'iwlist <interface> scan'
3, Get which AP to connect to.  (any) is allowed
4. Run 'iwconfig <interface> essid (answer from 3)'
5. Run 'dhclient <interface>'
6. Run 'ifconfig <interface>'  (To show the connection is up.)

I also don't use WPA on my AP as I have the dhcp server set to allow
only our MAC addresses and have it set to assign static IP addresses 
based on those MAC's.

We are very rural here.  :-)  Besides being only on dialup now.  



>     wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801
>     wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801
>     Listening on LPF/wifi0/
>     Sending on LPF/wifi0/
>     Sending on Socket/fallback
>     DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
>     DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
>     DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14
>     DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
>     DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
>     DHCPDISCOVER on wifi0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
>     No DHCPOFFERS received.
>     No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
> 
> Something wrong with DHCP on the AP?  My main computer works well with
> it, through a wired ethernet connection.
> 


Maybe.  I used wireshark to capture the traffic to/from the AP to
troubleshoot connection problems.

:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)

Wayne

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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:57:07 -0400
From: mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris Bannister)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: GLIBC_2.4
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On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:02:31PM +1100, hce wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am installing mutt and got an error of "GLIBC_2.4 is missing", I
> searched the Debian package, but could not found it. Which of Debian
> package contains the GLIBC_2.4?
> 
> Also, which http source should I add it to the source.list? I tried to
> download postfix-dev by apt-get install postfix-dev, but could not
> find it.


How are you installing mutt? Are you compiling mutt from source or
trying to install the Debian binary package?

-- 
Chris.
======


Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:57:18 -0400
From: mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz (Chris Bannister)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: debian repositories - connection refused
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On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 10:25:15PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:

> A day or two ago I began getting a "111 connection refused" error when
> attempting to access the debian repositories with Synaptic.  
> 
> The command "aptitude update" also hangs.
> 
> However, Internet access with browser and mail appears to be normal.


Can you post the *exact* error message when trying aptitude from the
command line.

Trying a different mirror in your "/etc/apt/sources.lst" file may
indicate if the problem is outside or inside your machine.

-- 
Chris.
======


Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:15:34 +0100 (CET)
From: "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Log Question
Message-ID: <slrnfiflpm.7a3.keeling@heretic.nucleus.com>

Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com>:

>  I just upgraded the following packages this morning from testing:
> 
>  [UPGRADE] console-data 2:1.02-2 -> 2:1.03-1
>  [UPGRADE] dictionaries-common 0.85.2 -> 0.86.2
>  [UPGRADE] razor 2.810-2 -> 1:2.84-1
> 
>  I am using MIMEDefang with Sendmail to do mail filtering.  Here is a 
>  copy of one of those logs from MIMEDefang:
> 
>  Oct 28 04:15:02 apple mimedefang.pl[12585]: greylist: white; 0; 
>  82.118.211.*; dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org; *@stikman.com;
> 
>  Those are put into my /var/log/maillog log file.
> 
>  After the upgrade, the above log line looks like this:
> 
>  Oct 28 09:44:18 apple check[5889]: greylist: white; 0; 70.103.162.*; 
>  bounce-debian-user=jeff=stikman.com@lists.debian.org; *@stikman.com;
> 
>  And, the lines are now put in /var/log/messages.
> 
>  If you notice it says the process is now check instead of mimedefang.pl 
>  sending the output.  How come that changed?  I have restarted mimedefang 
>  and sysklogd, but no change.


I would guess the install changed syslog.conf.  Did you accept the
maintainer's version, or keep your own?


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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:10:31 +0100 (CET)
From: "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: long lines of ^@^@^@ ... in messages and syslog?!?  Etch, Sun Sparc U30.
Message-ID: <slrnfiflg7.7a3.keeling@heretic.nucleus.com>

This is on a Sun Ultra 30 running Debian Etch Sparc, all SCSI
interfaces and Sun hardware (incl. kb & mouse), 256 (?) Mb RAM, 9 Gb
HD.

(0) deviant /home/keeling_ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        255584     238952      16632          0      13968     146568
-/+ buffers/cache:      78416     177168
Swap:       457832          0     457832

  :-)  Running Fluxbox, FF, emacs, mrxvt, gkrellm, ...  Slick.

I was just looking into the logs on this thing for the first time
since installing it (day before yesterday).  EOF of both
/var/log/messages and syslog both have long lines of ^@^@^@^@ and the
latest time stamp is (messages) Oct 28 23:44:02 and (syslog) Oct 30
03:55:25.

Otherwise the box looks mostly alright (functional), but I just tried
to install logrotate, and it wildly complains about everything
(obviously), so it's reboot time.  Clean shutdown & reboot, and /var's
no longer mounted ro.

That appears to have solved it for now.  aptitude's installing
logrotate now.  Now I see that all the original log entries are there
except for the ^@ crap.  Something's cleaned them up.  Weird.

BTW, both of these boxes are behind a router, and neither of them's
seen any non-FLOSS software.  I'm happily ssh-ing back and forth with
X forwarding.

Anybody have any idea what happened here?  What's a better way to sort
out what's going on than what I've done?  Is this just a flakey scsi
drive? 


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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:12:35 +1100
From: hce <webmail.hce@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: GLIBC_2.4
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My appology. I simply did reply all, not knowing it was a message only
sent to me.

On 10/30/07, hyjial <hyjial@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> A pleasure to help you, although I am quite clueless
> about GLIBC_2.4 ; I am going to dig a bit.
> Nevertheless, notice that you have sent your latest
> E-mail only to me and not to the list. You should fix
> it for others to give a try at fixing your problem.
> H.

>
>

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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:13:55 +0800
From: swhe <amalgam.swhe@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Tool to configure sound
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can u get the sound when u use a headphone?

On 10/31/07, Richard Lyons <richard@the-place.net> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 11:32:18PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:

>

> [...]
> >
> > That is indeed the normal output, so speaker-test seems to think
> > everything is OK. What do you get from running "amixer"?

>

> Florian, hello.  How nice to have your help once again.

>

> Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 255
>   Mono:
>   Front Left: Playback 230 [90%]
>   Front Right: Playback 230 [90%]
> Simple mixer control 'Front',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
>   Mono:
>   Front Left: Playback 24 [77%] [on]
>   Front Right: Playback 24 [77%] [on]
> Simple mixer control 'Line',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
>   Mono:
>   Front Left: Playback 19 [61%] [on]
>   Front Right: Playback 19 [61%] [on]
> Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
>   Mono:
>   Front Left: Playback 4 [13%] [off]
>   Front Right: Playback 4 [13%] [off]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [off]
> Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
>   Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Capture 0 - 31
>   Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [off]
>   Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [off]
> Simple mixer control 'Capture',1
>   Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Capture 0 - 31
>   Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [on]
>   Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [on]
> Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0
>   Capabilities: enum
>   Items: 'Mic' 'Line'
>   Item0: 'Mic'
> Simple mixer control 'Input Source',1
>   Capabilities: enum
>   Items: 'Mic' 'Line'
>   Item0: 'Mic'

>

> I assume this is listing the results of my last wild click-on-
> anything-to-see-if-it-helps session with alsamixergui.

>

> Needless to say, nothing did help.  Perhaps the sound is just muted
> because Debian doesn't know about the blue function key things on
> the laptop.  I have tried pressing the speaker-related ones, but also
> to no avail.  Debian doesn't know about the screen brightness keys
> either -- gives 2 error messages for every keypress -- but they still
> work on the brightness.

>

> --
> richard

>
>

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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:33:46 -0700
From: Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com>
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Log Question
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s. keeling wrote:

> Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com>:
>   

>>  I just upgraded the following packages this morning from testing:
>>
>>  [UPGRADE] console-data 2:1.02-2 -> 2:1.03-1
>>  [UPGRADE] dictionaries-common 0.85.2 -> 0.86.2
>>  [UPGRADE] razor 2.810-2 -> 1:2.84-1
>>
>>  I am using MIMEDefang with Sendmail to do mail filtering.  Here is a 
>>  copy of one of those logs from MIMEDefang:
>>
>>  Oct 28 04:15:02 apple mimedefang.pl[12585]: greylist: white; 0; 
>>  82.118.211.*; dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org; *@stikman.com;
>>
>>  Those are put into my /var/log/maillog log file.
>>
>>  After the upgrade, the above log line looks like this:
>>
>>  Oct 28 09:44:18 apple check[5889]: greylist: white; 0; 70.103.162.*; 
>>  bounce-debian-user=jeff=stikman.com@lists.debian.org; *@stikman.com;
>>
>>  And, the lines are now put in /var/log/messages.
>>
>>  If you notice it says the process is now check instead of mimedefang.pl 
>>  sending the output.  How come that changed?  I have restarted mimedefang 
>>  and sysklogd, but no change.
>>     
>

> I would guess the install changed syslog.conf.  Did you accept the
> maintainer's version, or keep your own?

>

>   


No.  I have gone through that file many times and nothing has changed in
it.  Here is the output of that file:

# Log anything (except mail) of level info or higher.
# Don't log private authentication messages!
#*.info;cron.none;mail.none;news.none;authpriv.none     /var/log/messages
*.info;cron.none;mail.none;news.none;authpriv.none      /var/log/messages

# The authpriv file has restricted access.
#authpriv.*                                              /var/log/secure
authpriv.*                                              /var/log/secure

# Log all the mail messages in one place.
mail.*                                                  /var/log/maillog

# Log cron stuff
cron.*                                                  /var/log/cron

# Everybody gets emergency messages, plus log them on another
# machine.
*.emerg                                                 *

# Save boot messages also to boot.log
local7.*                                                /var/log/boot

#  Log all news items
news.*                                                  /var/log/news

#  Log all mail notices
mail.notice
/var/log/mailerror

Jeff


Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:10:37 -0500
From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: creative zen management with command-line interface
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* Davide Mancusi <arekfu@gmail.com> [071030 19:21]:

> Russell L. Harris ha scritto:

>> I have used gnupod (command-line interface) with a 4th-generation
>> iPod.  It was an enjoyable experience.  I would like to find a tool of
>> this sort to manage the Creative Zen.
>

> Amarok has got a plugin to manage "Creative Nomad Jukebox" mp3
> players.  Might be worth a shot...

>

> Hope that helps.
> Davide


Ah, yes!  In my searching I did come across Amarok.  In fact, I
created another user on my desktop machine and installed for him the
KDE desktop, because I was concerned that Amarok might not run
properly under Gnome.

I tried to use Amarok for the Zen Jukebox, but I became so confused
that I returned to the Window$ machine and the manager which Creative
furnished, which, at least, is fairly intuitive.

The experience only reinforced my desire for a command-line interface
such as that provided by gnupod.  

RLH


Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:14:07 -0500
From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: debian repositories - connection refused
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* Chris Bannister <mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz> [071030 20:00]:

> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 10:25:15PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > A day or two ago I began getting a "111 connection refused" error when
> > attempting to access the debian repositories with Synaptic.  
> > 
> > The command "aptitude update" also hangs.
> > 
> > However, Internet access with browser and mail appears to be normal.
> 
> Can you post the *exact* error message when trying aptitude from the
> command line.
> 
> Trying a different mirror in your "/etc/apt/sources.lst" file may
> indicate if the problem is outside or inside your machine.


Thanks, Chris.  But a couple of days ago I posted a message (perhaps
it got lost) stating that the problem vanished when I uninstalled
"anon-proxy" (which I had installed a week or so ago, out of
curiosity.)

RLH


Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:19:58 -0700
From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude
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On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:25:02AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> was heard to say:

> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 08:03:42PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:13:23 -0500
> > Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@ieee.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:06:59 -0700, Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> said: 
> > > 
> > > >   I'd say the main difference is that apt-get is a command-line tool,
> > > > whereas aptitude is an interactive tool that can be driven from the
> > > > command-line.
> > > 
> > >         Are there still command line usages of apt-get that are not
> > >  exactly the same in aptitude?  And has apt-get started keeping track of
> > 
> > The classic examples that arise periodically on the list are apt-get's
> > 'build-dep' and 'source' actions, which apparently have no obvious
> > aptitude versions.
> 
> this bothers me, since I mostly use aptitude. When I need a build-dep
> or source, I'm concerned that later aptitude may wipe something
> inadvertantly. Do you know if there are plans to implement these
> commands into aptitude? Or will apt-get always remain, so that its not
> a problem?


  aptitude shouldn't wipe out packages installed with apt-get, period
full stop.

  The thing that bothers me, sometimes, about build-dep is that I have no
way of deleting the build-dep once I don't need it.  There would be real
value in adding this command to aptitude if there was a way to tag
packages installed by it for future removal.  (one could also get crazy
and imagine putting arbitrary tags on packages)

  I don't see the point of duplicating the functionality of "source",
except that it means you can avoid running apt-get.

  So I guess the answer wrt plans is that I have vague and mushy plans
to implement build-dep, and no particular interest in implementing
source (there are many higher-priority items in the input queue).

  Daniel

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