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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2712

Today's Topics:

  Re: Getting power off to work in Etc  [ Digby Tarvin  ]
  Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude               [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  DST: Same procedure as every half-ye  [ Dan H  ]
  udev MAKEDEV                          [ Vadim Vatlin  ]
  Re: Charging iPod / Listening to mus  [ "Mathieu Malaterre"  ]
  Re: udev MAKEDEV                      [ Vadim Vatlin  ]

Re: DST: Same procedure as every hal [ Thierry Chatelet <tchatelet@free.fr ]

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:40:04 +0000
From: Digby Tarvin <digbyt@acm.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Getting power off to work in Etch...

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On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:44:38PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 October 2007 18:58, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > Does anyone know the secret to getting Etch to power down the system
> > after a halt. I have tried 'apt-get install apmd', but it doesn't
> > seem to have helped.
> >
> > I know the hardware can do it, because it worked with the very old
> > version of Ubuntu I tried before Debian (5.04).
> >
> > The machine is a Dell Precision 410 with new Etch netinst just done...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > DigbyT
>
> Hi Digby. Just an update. I found the the link to the bugreport for the
> shutdown problem. It may, or may not resolve your problem, but is below.
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=390547
>
> Cordialement.
>
> Nigel.

Hi Nigel,

I went through that bugreport, and creating a /etc/modprobe.d/apm containing

Do you need help?

options apm power_off=1
fixed it for me.

Many thanks for all the pointers.

Regards,
DigbyT

-- 
Digby R. S. Tarvin                                          digbyt(at)digbyt.com
http://www.digbyt.com

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:35:02 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude Message-ID: <20071031043502.GI29856@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rnP2AJ7yb1j09OW/" Content-Disposition: inline --rnP2AJ7yb1j09OW/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 08:19:58PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:25:02AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@f=
arwestbilliards.com> was heard to say:
> >=20
> > this bothers me, since I mostly use aptitude. When I need a build-dep
> > or source, I'm concerned that later aptitude may wipe something
> > inadvertantly. Do you know if there are plans to implement these
> > commands into aptitude? Or will apt-get always remain, so that its not
> > a problem?
>=20
> aptitude shouldn't wipe out packages installed with apt-get, period
> full stop.
you know, that wasn't fair of me. I was once concerned about that problem, but have subsequently learned that it really doesn't happen. So i apologise if that came across wrong. >=20
> The thing that bothers me, sometimes, about build-dep is that I have no
> way of deleting the build-dep once I don't need it. There would be real
> value in adding this command to aptitude if there was a way to tag
> packages installed by it for future removal. (one could also get crazy
> and imagine putting arbitrary tags on packages)
yeah, i see what you mean. Personally, if I install a build-dep, I want it to stick around and and stay in good shape like any other package. My hacking is done intermittently at best and having a build-dep go out of sync when I'm not looking would be frustrating.=20 >=20
> I don't see the point of duplicating the functionality of "source",
> except that it means you can avoid running apt-get.
hmmm... I'mnot sure I understand this. Why not have aptitude be a complete replacement for apt-get? I mean, if aptitude already replaces some sufficiently large portion of apt-get's functionality, why not take it= the rest of the way so that aptitude users can stay with aptitude? Of course I ask this purely out of curiosity as I have zero time ATM to put into hacking on aptitude. :(=20 one of the things that keeps recurring here is various discussions about aptitude and its supposed propensity for removing whole swaths of packages at inopportune moments. A lot of folks blame this on switching back and forth between aptitude and apt-get. Of course, you've said that this won't happen, and I believe you, but there is still this impression being perpetuated on this list. My thinking is that completing the duplication of functionality between apt-get and aptitude would eliminate the percieved problem. Of course that's not a very good reason to write code ;-P.=20 >=20
> So I guess the answer wrt plans is that I have vague and mushy plans
> to implement build-dep, and no particular interest in implementing
> source (there are many higher-priority items in the input queue).
thanks for the update. We all love to hear about this stuff directly =66rom time to time. thanks again for your work on debian too! its changed my life, frankly. A --rnP2AJ7yb1j09OW/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHKAX2aIeIEqwil4YRAiacAJ9DYtfWINERpsweDtF630IixvITaQCg4Sqv 51BtC4pzWtqqrGADzBAXdeY= =qOYi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rnP2AJ7yb1j09OW/--

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:44:24 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: When I try to save html pages, nothing happens Message-ID: <20071031044424.GJ29856@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YIleam+9adpUeYf+" Content-Disposition: inline --YIleam+9adpUeYf+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 03:07:23PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 October 2007 14:28, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 02:02:42PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > > when you say 'the rest of /var should be owned by root as well,' do y=
ou
> > > mean everything under /var, not just the immediate subdirectories?
> >
> > andrew@basement:~/src/gnucash$ ls -lR /var/* 2>&1 | awk '/^\// { /
> > curr_dir=3D$0 } /^[^\/tl]/ {if ($3!=3D"root") print curr_dir " " $0}' =
> /
> > ~/non_root_vars
> >
> > produces the attached output. I think it is what you need, showing
> > only those things that are *not* root-owned in my /var.
> >
> > you can ignore /var/run.
> >
>=20
> running:
>=20
> ls -lR /var/* 2>&1 | awk '/^\// { curr_dir=3D$0 } /^[^\/tl]/ {if=20
> ($3!=3D"root") =A0print curr_dir " " $0}' > ~/non_root_vars
>=20
> in file 't', i get:
>=20
> kloro@debian:~$ ./t
> ./t: line 1: /bin: is a directory
>=20
> and no 'non_root_vars' in my home.
you're missing the point tom. I was providing the output of that command from *my* machine so that you could see what you're perms should look like and change them appropriately. I provided you with all the files and directories under my /var that were *not* owned by root so you could compare and make adjustments as needed. I would expect you'd get only a handful of items from that command as you chown'ed the whole thign to root...=20 Anyway, pull up that previous email and take a look at the attachement. A --YIleam+9adpUeYf+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHKAgoaIeIEqwil4YRAsicAKC9BRY3Jck1eGzeG9n02ZrJDyRs7gCeIWSc Ao3nq+TwL5hdjWUNXmx5WwY= =kU1G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YIleam+9adpUeYf+--

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:48:24 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: When I try to save html pages, nothing happens Message-ID: <20071031044824.GK29856@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HVCoas+krw6dou6l" Content-Disposition: inline --HVCoas+krw6dou6l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 11:28:53PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 15:07:23 -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > On Tuesday 30 October 2007 14:28, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 02:02:42PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > > > when you say 'the rest of /var should be owned by root as well,' do=
you
> > > > mean everything under /var, not just the immediate subdirectories?
> > >
> > > andrew@basement:~/src/gnucash$ ls -lR /var/* 2>&1 | awk '/^\// { /
> > > curr_dir=3D$0 } /^[^\/tl]/ {if ($3!=3D"root") print curr_dir " " $0}=
' > /
> > > ~/non_root_vars
> > >
>=20
> I would prefer using find for this:
>=20
> find /var/ -uid +0 -fprintf ~/non_root_vars "%p %M %u %g\n"
man, you gotta go and ruin my fun. show off! ;-) seriously though, that's a much better way to do it. I was just happy I could get what I needed. Now if tom would just understand what I'm showing him... ;) A --HVCoas+krw6dou6l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHKAkYaIeIEqwil4YRApPLAKDArDQf7Rpma0IRrbbhuZhnRNCVfgCgxYqd gxzjW32ucfa4ureJJ+dJVaw= =dV/I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HVCoas+krw6dou6l--

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:51:14 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Charging iPod / Listening to music Message-ID: <20071031045114.GL29856@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/TUrtqMIkCP4YtJm" Content-Disposition: inline --/TUrtqMIkCP4YtJm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 07:43:08PM -0400, steve wrote:
> Richard Lyons wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 11:01:53PM +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> >=20
> >> When I plug my iPod using the USB cable I get the 'Do not
> >> disconnect' screen on the ipod. It's great because I can see the ipod
> >> is charging. But to listen to music I do not understand what I need to
> >> do. I tried:
>=20
> its not possible to listen and charge an ipod on any platform with the
> "ipod firmware". I went through this many years ago. Maybe look at
> rockbox?
>=20 I'm not sure what you mean by this but we listen to the ipod in the car all the time while its hooked to a charger. A --/TUrtqMIkCP4YtJm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHKAnCaIeIEqwil4YRAlIIAJ466j++6HTEYqXZScV6PPdYiBvwFwCfdj6K ipQWrLllvSHGX4iwguV6NZU= =zzvd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/TUrtqMIkCP4YtJm--

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:29:45 -0700 From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude Message-id: <20071031042945.GB9151@alpaca> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline Thanks for the kind words. :) At the risk of spoling the mystery, On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 05:22:16PM -0600, Nate Duehr <nate@natetech.com> was heard to say:
> I think the niftiest feature (and one that still has me scratching my head
> as to how you accomplished it) is the MOUSE control in curses over SSH from
> a WINDOWS box?! That's amazing.
Turns out it's actually quite easy. See mouse(3ncurses) for the details. Now you can amaze your friends with your curses knowledge. :-) Daniel

Do you need more help?

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:31:12 -0700 From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude Message-id: <20071031043112.GC9151@alpaca> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 12:53:46AM +0100, Richard Lyons <richard@the-place.net> was heard to say:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 05:22:16PM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:
>
> [...]
> > aptitude is by far one of the best package management tools out
> > there. Newbies and folks really stuck in the graphic-oriented/desktop
> > user world may like synaptic better, but for just getting things done
> > -- aptitude wins hands down, almost all the time.
>
> I do agree! Just occasionally, I fire up synaptic to browse a category,
> say stuff to do with sound, or mail for example. It is slightly easier
> in synaptic to browse than it is in aptitude. And I wish you could
> reverse direction in mid-search in aptitude. I often race past a
> relevant match by being too quick on the "n". If only "b" for back or
> "p" for previous or "N" or whatever switched the direction without
> having to reenter the search using \ or page up enough times to probably
> pass whatever it was you didn't quite see...
changeset: 604:42378273c12b user: Daniel Burrows <Daniel_Burrows@alumni.brown.edu> date: Sat Mar 10 16:46:30 2007 +0000 summary: [aptitude @ Add a keyboard command bound to 'N' that repeats the last search in the opposite direction (Closes: #414020, #397880)] Daniel

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:53:04 +0100 From: Richard Lyons <richard@the-place.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tool to configure sound Message-ID: <20071031055259.GM4858@mulinocarletti.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:13:55AM +0800, swhe wrote:
> On 10/31/07, Richard Lyons <richard@the-place.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 11:32:18PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > >
> > > That is indeed the normal output, so speaker-test seems to think
> > > everything is OK. What do you get from running "amixer"?
[...]
> > Needless to say, nothing did help. Perhaps the sound is just muted
> > because Debian doesn't know about the blue function key things on
> > the laptop. I have tried pressing the speaker-related ones, but also
> > to no avail. Debian doesn't know about the screen brightness keys
> > either -- gives 2 error messages for every keypress -- but they still
> > work on the brightness.

> can u get the sound when u use a headphone?
>
No, that seems silent too. -- richard

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:10:24 +0800 From: swhe <amalgam.swhe@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tool to configure sound Message-ID: <a2bd59240710302310m76e4ec0ib297e11e028dce88@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >
> > can u get the sound when u use a headphone?
> >
>
> No, that seems silent too.
what's the result of " cat /proc/asound/cards " -- Yours, swhe

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:11:53 +0100 From: Dan H <dunno@stoptrick.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: DST: Same procedure as every half-year? Message-ID: <20071031081153.42c6be09@kir.physnet.uni-hamburg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello list, it happened again (in Germany, anyway). As of Sunday, we're back on winter time (CET). Except my computer ain't. And every half-year I forget just what I did to set the clock right. I've got the timezone set right (Europe/Berlin CET) but the clock lags. Is there some accepted standard and automatic way of honoring DST? Even Windows gets this right. I'm using ntpd to sync my clock. Ntp itself works right -- every now and then I have to erase my buggy BIOS settings, which resets the hardware clock to the Nineties, but when Linux comes up the clock is always correct (except that little DST issue of course). Thanks, --D.

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:58:42 +0300 From: Vadim Vatlin <silent@corbina.net> To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: udev MAKEDEV Message-ID: <20071031085842.GA4889@corbina.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline How can I recreate all devices in /dev ? I have copyed /dev from one disk to one another with rsync. I boot from Debian rescue and run: shell> lilo part_nowrite check:: No such file or directory I think that it was happend because partitions from /dev of first disk don't equal /dev of second disk.

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:44:41 +0100 From: "Mathieu Malaterre" <mathieu.malaterre@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Charging iPod / Listening to music Message-ID: <bf0c3b3f0710310144y75b4ee48x76b0010bf441c5fe@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/31/07, Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 07:43:08PM -0400, steve wrote:
> > Richard Lyons wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 11:01:53PM +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> > >
> > >> When I plug my iPod using the USB cable I get the 'Do not
> > >> disconnect' screen on the ipod. It's great because I can see the ipod
> > >> is charging. But to listen to music I do not understand what I need to
> > >> do. I tried:
> >
> > its not possible to listen and charge an ipod on any platform with the
> > "ipod firmware". I went through this many years ago. Maybe look at
> > rockbox?
> >
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by this but we listen to the ipod in the
> car all the time while its hooked to a charger.
Because the charger is not sending data (this is as far as I understood). Apparently you can even have a pure power USB (no data) from your pc somehow... I'll try the solution of amarok + kdeeject tonight. thanks everybody. -- Mathieu

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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:33:18 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: DST: Same procedure as every half-year? Message-ID: <47284BDE.6040006@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/31/07 02:11, Dan H wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> it happened again (in Germany, anyway). As of Sunday, we're back
> on winter time (CET). Except my computer ain't. And every
> half-year I forget just what I did to set the clock right. I've
> got the timezone set right (Europe/Berlin CET) but the clock
> lags. Is there some accepted standard and automatic way of
> honoring DST? Even Windows gets this right. I'm using ntpd to
> sync my clock. Ntp itself works right -- every now and then I
> have to erase my buggy BIOS settings, which resets the hardware
> clock to the Nineties, but when Linux comes up the clock is
> always correct (except that little DST issue of course).
Automatic clock adjustment has always worked for me. What branch are you using? Etch? Sarge? What version of tzdata do you have? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHKEveS9HxQb37XmcRArUFAJ9zeCpTT47FYKsTuLKO18+qWC+AFQCeIM7w NHR/OHplbySwXkY+FeQKPn8= =44ql -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:01:22 +0300 From: Vadim Vatlin <silent@corbina.net> To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: udev MAKEDEV Message-ID: <20071031100122.GA4087@corbina.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Now I create by hand md0, sda, sdb, sda1, sdb1 - all partitions which I want. And when I run lilo I get: Fatal: Sorry, don't know how to handle device 0xfd00 What is it?

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:57:13 +0100 From: Thierry Chatelet <tchatelet@free.fr> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: DST: Same procedure as every half-year? Message-Id: <200710311057.13899.tchatelet@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 31 October 2007 10:33, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 10/31/07 02:11, Dan H wrote:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > it happened again (in Germany, anyway). As of Sunday, we're back
> > on winter time (CET). Except my computer ain't. And every
> > half-year I forget just what I did to set the clock right. I've
> > got the timezone set right (Europe/Berlin CET) but the clock
> > lags. Is there some accepted standard and automatic way of
> > honoring DST? Even Windows gets this right. I'm using ntpd to
> > sync my clock. Ntp itself works right -- every now and then I
> > have to erase my buggy BIOS settings, which resets the hardware
> > clock to the Nineties, but when Linux comes up the clock is
> > always correct (except that little DST issue of course).
>
> Automatic clock adjustment has always worked for me.
>
> What branch are you using? Etch? Sarge?
>
> What version of tzdata do you have?
>
> --
> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson LA USA
> Well, I did a few install of Etch lately, and I notice, for the time to be adjusted automaticly, that after the install is complete, I had to run tzconfig. This is for install either with etch only, or with dual boot. First at the end of each install the time given by date was OK, both UTC and local (France), but the time given by KDE was out. Having ntp running does not ajuste the time in KDE. Which would then give wrong time when you send a mail, say. Then I run tzconfig (which told me Europe and Paris, do you change it?) and re-enter the time zone, and every thing was OK, and all of the box adjusted the time automaticly for winter time. End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2712 ************************************************** Received on Wed Oct 31 06:31:44 2007

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