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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2717

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2717

Today's Topics:

  How can i add a manual file to compi  [ "Jabka Atu"  ]
  Re: quad-core query                   [ Chris Davies  ]
  Re: How can i add a manual file to c  [ "Jabka Atu"  ]

Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 01:47:00 +0200
From: "Jabka Atu" <mashrom.head@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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Good evening,..

Do you need help?X

Im working on a smser package (
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/smser/) and i cann't understand how to add a manual file :
when i work on package that does not compile code (as klthemes http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/k/klthemes/) i just edited the debian/manfile.1 and debuild -rfakeroot
but when i compile a a source code (Makefile) and run debuild -rfakeroot i got the next error :
W: smser: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/smser

but it does have a manfile.1 what am i doing wrong ?

Thank you in advance.

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Good evening,..<br><br>Im working on a smser package (http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/smser/) and i cann&#39;t understand how to add a manual file :


when i work on package that does not compile code (as klthemes http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/k/klthemes/) i just edited the debian/manfile.1 and debuild -rfakeroot
but when i compile a a source code (Makefile) and run debuild -rfakeroot i got the next error :
W: smser: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/smser

but it does have a manfile.1 what am i doing wrong ?

Thank you in advance.
Do you need more help?X


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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:52:54 -0700
From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: can mplayer in etch be used to watch TV?

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On Oct 31, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Serena Cantor wrote:

> (BTW: can you recommend other TV-watching packages in etch?)

I've always liked "tvtime". It does on-the-fly deinterlacing. Very nice image quality, although at the expense of higher CPU usage.

Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:14:26 +0100
From: Erik Persson <erik-maillist@djingis.se> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: iptables and virtual hosts problem

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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 05:09:50PM +0100, Erik Persson wrote:

>> Hello!
>>
>> I have a server which is running 2 different virtual hosts (vserver), let's 
>> call them S for the server, A and B for the virtual hosts A and B.
>> S, A and B have different ip-addresses (say s.s.s.s, a.a.a.a and b.b.b.b).
>>
>> Since the server isn't really forwarding anything I haven't used the 
>> FORWARD chain for anything, and I use INPUT and OUTPUT to regulate the flow 
>> to the different servers, for example:
>>
>> iptables -P INPUT DROP
>> iptables -P OUTPUT DROP
>> iptables -P FORWARD DROP
>> iptables -I INPUT -d a.a.a.a -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
>> on the server
>> seems to do what I want. In the example above letting A and only A answer 
>> requests on port 80.
>>
>> However, when I try to regulate the flow of traffic between the different 
>> "machines" (S, A, and B) strange things happen.
>>
>> For example:
>> iptables -I OUTPUT -d a.a.a.a -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT
>> doesn't only allow any of the "machines" to try to contact port 25 on A, 
>> but it *also allows A to answer* !!!

>
> if by answer, you mean respond to the same request, then that is
> appropriate, IIUC. The rules relate to *new* requests, not responses
> to existing ones. That's why when you block port 80 inbound, you can
> still recieve packets -- they match up to outbound requests your
> browser has made.
>
> I think that's right.
>
> A

Thanks! But that really has to do with RELATED,ESTABLISHED for *established connections* and here I *never* have any rule that explicitly allows any such established connection to be brought up. The outbound rule that allows traffic out from the virtual machines to tcp/25 on a.a.a.a *also* seems to allow traffic *into* a.a.a.a and I have no explicit rule that allows it, but maybe the ESTABLISHED,RELATED is the rule that makes this work here, in a fishy way, as well?

The thing is like this. If I have 2 physically distinct, and thus different, machines, A and B, and want to connect from A to B on port tcp/25 I have to:
1) let traffic out from A to B on tcp/25 - ie use the OUTPUT chain on A 2) let traffic in on B from A on tcp/25 - ie use the INPUT chain on B The rest of the traffic between the two, that is outbound answers from B to A on B, and incoming answer from B to A on A, is regulated by RELATED,ESTABLISHED rules in the INPUT and OUTPUT-chains on A and B resp., and that's ok.

Can't find what you're looking for?X

In my case I have a server S and two *virtual* machines, A and B. The rules that I need however differ, and there seems to be no need for #2 above - that is there is no need to let the traffic in from the other virtual hosts.
The rule:
iptables -I OUTPUT -d a.a.a.a -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT seems to be sufficient for both letting the traffic out from S and B (to A) and letting it in on A. As I understand, it should only let traffic out from S and B to a.a.a.a (A), but here it also makes a.a.a.a, A, *accept/answer* the very same traffic. That is strange.

It could be RELATED,ESTABLISHED that makes this possible, in some strange way, but I don't know and I can't test it at the moment (at the moment I have only remote access to the machines). For example if b.b.b.b tcp/whatever sends a request to a.a.a.a tcp/25, the kernel should make some sort of note of this, and let answers from a.a.a.a/25 in to b.b.b.b/whatever (sort of in the INPUT chain) in, but maybe there is some part of this I'm missing.

Anyhow, *if* I'm not missing something (and it is likely I do) please explain if you know)?

/erik

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:16:36 -0400
From: steve <sfreilly@roadrunner.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Charging iPod / Listening to music

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  Only when I start the
> computer up does the usb go live. I wonder if this is simply the normal
> arrangement for laptops?
>

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Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:30:30 +0000
From: Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: quad-core query
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ISHWAR RATTAN <rattan@cps.cmich.edu> wrote:
> Is anyone running Linux on a quad-core Opteron or Xeon based system?

I've an eight-way Xeon running Lenny on (what I think I recall is) a DELL 2950. Does that help?

Chris

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:45:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Serena Cantor <qipaishi2006@yahoo.com> To: debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: can mplayer in etch be used to watch TV?

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Thanks! I just try tvtime, it let me know all frequency of TV stations du= ring scanning. it require
a high-performance CPU. I use Celeron 300, too slow for tvtime. I will tr= y xawtv again with
knowledge of tv frequency learned from tv scanning. I am so busy. I will = try later on. Thanks
again!

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> On Oct 31, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Serena Cantor wrote:
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> > (BTW: can you recommend other TV-watching packages in etch?)
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Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:11:54 -0000
From: rockymaxsource <rockysynergy@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Connect to remote CVS server
Message-ID: <1193879514.811294.32280@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hey,

Can any of you tell me how to use SSH to connect to remote CVS repository with user name and password please?

Thanks a lot in advance!
Blessings,
Rocky

Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:05:10 +1100
From: hce <webmail.hce@gmail.com>
To: "Chris Bannister" <mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: GLIBC_2.4

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On 10/31/07, Chris Bannister <mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:02:31PM +1100, hce wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am installing mutt and got an error of "GLIBC_2.4 is missing", I
> > searched the Debian package, but could not found it. Which of Debian
> > package contains the GLIBC_2.4?
> >
> > Also, which http source should I add it to the source.list? I tried to
> > download postfix-dev by apt-get install postfix-dev, but could not
> > find it.

>

> How are you installing mutt? Are you compiling mutt from source or
> trying to install the Debian binary package?
I am compiling mutt from the source, so I can install it in my local directory, rather goes to /usr.

> --
> Chris.
> ======

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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 04:09:35 +0200
From: "Jabka Atu" <mashrom.head@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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Found an answer (actually got it on OFTC thank you mentors) i was supposed to create debian/manpages

the full explenation is at :
http://bsh83.blogspot.com/2007/11/man-file-in-debian-packaging-errors.html

Do you need more help?X

On 11/1/07, Jabka Atu <mashrom.head@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Good evening,..
>

> Im working on a smser package (
> http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/smser/) and i cann't
> understand how to add a manual file :
> when i work on package that does not compile code (as klthemes
> http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/k/klthemes/) i just edited
> the debian/manfile.1 and debuild -rfakeroot
> but when i compile a a source code (Makefile) and run debuild -rfakeroot i
> got the next error :
> W: smser: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/smser
>

> but it does have a manfile.1 what am i doing wrong ?
>

> Thank you in advance.

>
>

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Found an&nbsp; answer (actually got it on OFTC thank you mentors)<br>i was supposed to create debian/manpages<br><br>the full explenation is at :<a href="http://bsh83.blogspot.com/2007/11/man-file-in-debian-packaging-errors.html"> http://bsh83.blogspot.com/2007/11/man-file-in-debian-packaging-errors.html</a><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/1/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jabka Atu</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:mashrom.head(at)gmail.com">mashrom.head(at)gmail.com </a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Good evening,..<br><br>Im working on a smser package (<a href="http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/smser/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/smser/</a>) and i cann&#39;t understand how to add a manual file :


when i work on package that does not compile code (as klthemes http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/k/klthemes/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/k/klthemes/ ) i just edited the debian/manfile.1 and debuild -rfakeroot
but when i compile a a source code (Makefile) and run debuild -rfakeroot i got the next error :
W: smser: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/smser

but it does have a manfile.1 what am i doing wrong ?

Thank you in advance.


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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 04:11:43 +0200
From: "Jabka Atu" <mashrom.head@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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Thnx to all i found an answer
http://bsh83.blogspot.com/2007/11/man-file-in-debian-packaging-errors.html

On 9/29/07, Jabka Atu <mashrom.head@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Hello ,...
>
>

> im working on smser package (on
> http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/smser)
>
>

> i started to use the normal rules file (auto genrated).
>
>

> after that i started to get errors with man file:
>

> lintian told me that there is no man file (but there is as you can see).
>
>

> also why does the noraml rule file don't deleate the stamp files ?
>
>

> P.s
>

> ill be glad to get any relvent comments on this prog .
>

> - --
> - --
> Could you at least use man ?
> Jabka Atu (aka mha13/Mashrom Head) || bsh83.blogspot.com
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Thnx to all i found an answer http://bsh83.blogspot.com/2007/11/man-file-in-debian-packaging-errors.html<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote"> On 9/29/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jabka Atu</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:mashrom.head@gmail.com">mashrom.head@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>Hello ,...<br><br><br>im working on smser package (on<br><a href="http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/smser">http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/smser

)


i started to use the normal rules file (auto genrated).


after that i started to get errors with man file:

lintian told me that there is no man file (but there is as you can see).


also why does the noraml rule file don't deleate the stamp files ?


P.s

ill be glad to get any relvent comments on this prog .

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    Jabka Atu (aka mha13/Mashrom Head) || http://bsh83.blogspot.com">bsh83.blogspot.com
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:10:10 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: can mplayer in etch be used to watch TV?

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On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 04:03:50PM -0700, Serena Cantor wrote:
> I can use xawtv in etch to watch TV, but am not happy with it, so I try mplayer. So far it does
> not work. Below is output:
> (BTW: can you recommend other TV-watching packages in etch?)

Don't know where to look next?X

I believe VLC can do that, although I don't have a card (yet). It will also do deinterlacing, and since I'm running with the nVidia driver it happens in hardware.

Doug.

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:07:07 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: quad-core query

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On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 04:55:54PM -0400, ISHWAR RATTAN wrote:
> Is anyone running Linux on a quad-core
> Opteron or Xeon based system? If so,
> can you provide the system details:
> - self assembled
> - preassembled (seller?)
> - details on components (if available)

You may want to ask on debian-amd64

To answer your question: not me.

Doug.

Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:02:47 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian on Core2Duo 64bit

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On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:29:35PM +0100, P?l Cs?nyi wrote:
> 2007/10/31, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <ghostbar38@gmail.com>:
> > Semih Gokalp wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > Which debian dist should I install on core2duo 64 bit pcu? x86 or amd64 ?
> >
> > amd64.
>
> amd64 is not only for the AMD processors?
>
> I have an Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU6320 @ 1.86GHz
>
> Should I install too the amd64 Debian distribution on this system?
>

As long as you don't want to run one of the (couple of) third-party apps that need i396 in Etch without also putting in an i386 chroot. Note, that many 32-bit apps will actually run in amd64 with the 32-bit libs package. I don't know about acroread since I don't use it. Iceweasel 32-bit with flashplayer needed a chroot. A chroot isn't much to set up or maintain.

Doug.

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:18:45 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: GLIBC_2.4

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On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 01:05:10PM +1100, hce wrote:
> On 10/31/07, Chris Bannister <mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz> wrote:
 >
> > How are you installing mutt? Are you compiling mutt from source or
> > trying to install the Debian binary package?
> I am compiling mutt from the source, so I can install it in my local
> directory, rather goes to /usr.

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If all you want to do is put the mutt stuff in /usr/local, why not just unpack the deb and place it manually? (or are search paths for libs coded in the binary, I don't know)?

Doug.

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:58:00 -0400
From: Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <ghostbar38@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian on Core2Duo 64bit
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P=C3=A1l Cs=C3=A1nyi wrote:
> 2007/10/31, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <ghostbar38@gmail.com>:

>> Semih Gokalp wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Which debian dist should I install on core2duo 64 bit pcu? x86 or amd=
64 ?
>> amd64.
>=20

> amd64 is not only for the AMD processors?
>=20

> I have an Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU6320 @ 1.86GHz
>=20

> Should I install too the amd64 Debian distribution on this system?
>=20
No, amd64 support as well emt64 (Intel) but was ridiculous to have 2 ports for something that works in a same way but with different names.

So yes, if you want to take advantage of the 64bits of your proccessor then install amd64. :-)

Regards,
Jose Luis.
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:59:29 -0400
From: Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <ghostbar38@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian on Core2Duo 64bit
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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:29:35PM +0100, P?l Cs?nyi wrote:

>> 2007/10/31, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras :
>>> Semih Gokalp wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> Which debian dist should I install on core2duo 64 bit pcu? x86 or am=
d64 ?
>>> amd64.
>> amd64 is not only for the AMD processors?
>>
>> I have an Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU6320  @ 1.86GHz
>>
>> Should I install too the amd64 Debian distribution on this system?
>>
>=20

> As long as you don't want to run one of the (couple of) third-party app=
s
> that need i396 in Etch without also putting in an i386 chroot. Note,
> that many 32-bit apps will actually run in amd64 with the 32-bit libs
> package. I don't know about acroread since I don't use it. Iceweasel
> 32-bit with flashplayer needed a chroot. A chroot isn't much to set up=

> or maintain.

Can we help you?X

It's not needed anymore at least in sid with flashplayer, in fact, there's a package in debian-multimedia.org that makes all the work for you, I mean, the configuration of the wrapper.

Regards,
Jose Luis.
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:52:36 -0800
From: Ken Irving <fnkci@uaf.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: GLIBC_2.4

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On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:18:45PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 01:05:10PM +1100, hce wrote:
> > On 10/31/07, Chris Bannister <mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz> wrote:
> >
> > > How are you installing mutt? Are you compiling mutt from source or
> > > trying to install the Debian binary package?
> > I am compiling mutt from the source, so I can install it in my local
> > directory, rather goes to /usr.
>
> If all you want to do is put the mutt stuff in /usr/local, why not just
> unpack the deb and place it manually? (or are search paths for libs
> coded in the binary, I don't know)?

Can't find what you're looking for?X

This (or similar) kind of thing has been discussed before on the list, and ISTR that the debian packaging is pretty well hard-coded to non-local (i.e., the standard) target directories. It'd be nice to be able to apt{whatever} install to local trees, but there's just no support in the underlying system for this. I can't recall just why I ever wanted this feature, but would be interested if unpacking the deb and manually placing was a viable approach.

Ken

-- 
Ken Irving, fnkci+debianuser@uaf.edu

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