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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2724

Today's Topics:

  hmepyaqbgd thought you might like th  [ eBay  ]
  Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude               [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  Re: getting back a deleted thread     [ Ron Johnson  ]
  resolv.conf question                  [ Paul E Condon  ]
  Re: Risk of using Iceweasel / firefo  [ David Brodbeck  ]
  Re: RFH: rt2570 -- RT2570 wireless n  [ Ben Hutchings  ]
  Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude               [ Celejar  ]
  [Fwd: Re: Installing Packages From S  [ Jeff Grossman  ]
  [Fwd: Re: Installing Packages From S  [ Jeff Grossman  ]
  "Waiting for root file system..." ha  [ "Cameron L. Spitzer"  ]
  Re: apt-get failing                   [ Jude DaShiell 

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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 15:59:12 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude
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On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 08:33:00PM -0000, BartlebyScrivener wrote:

> On Oct 27, 2:50 pm, Chris Lale  wrote:
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> > If you use both aptitude and apt-get, read the NewbieDOC article about =
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> > bullet[1] "aptitude keep-all".
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> > [1]
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> That's a newbie doc? :) Clear as mud. I've used Etch for a year,
> Synaptic and Apt-Get. Every time people suggest aptitude, the next two
> paragraphs are about how if you've used apt-get before then (insert
> two paragraphs of incomprehensible warnings).

just try it and see. You can always not execute the actions if you don't like what its suggesting.=20

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Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:38:52 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: [OT] Scripting question: the length limit of a list?

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On 11/01/07 15:07, Wei Chen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I would like to write a bash script like the following one:
> 
> for i in `some program that outputs a word list`
> do
>   echo $i
> done
> 
> where the word list can be very very long. I wonder what is the upper bound
> limit of the length of word lists in "for" loop of a bash script, or
Don't know where to look next?X
> does it only > depend on the hardware (say, RAM)? Thank you in advance.

I *think* that bash has a 128KB buffer limit.

-- 
Ron Johnson, Jr.
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Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:40:09 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: getting back a deleted thread Message-ID: <472A55C9.4020401@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/01/07 16:10, Richard Lyons wrote: > Err... > Embarrassed question. Suppose you are reading du with mutt. You clear > away all the stuff you don't want to follow with a series of ^d and > then $... and then you realize you accidentally deleted a thread of > infinite wisdom you were going to save and have engraved in gold. Is > there any way to get it back? Other than googling for it piecemeal. Tell me which thread it is and I'll send you an mbox.gz. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:20:56 -0600 From: Paul E Condon <pecondon@mesanetworks.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: resolv.conf question Message-ID: <20071101232056.GA4052@big.lan.gnu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I'm running Etch. My resolv.conf starts with the line: # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! and contains entries that I want to have new different values. I want to change the values in a way that last through a reboot, and I'd like to do it by editting a file using vim. What is the file that is the authoritative source of nameserver addresses? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecondon@mesanetworks.net

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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:35:22 -0700 From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Mouse + curses (+ vim), was Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude Message-Id: <0902C9ED-FB7F-4012-B144-6C41E1B77F3E@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Nov 1, 2007, at 2:41 PM, cls@truffula.sj.ca.us wrote: > [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] > In article <9k8H9-7BF-7@gated-at.bofh.it>, Nate Duehr wrote: >> I think the niftiest feature (and one that still has me scratching my >> head as to how you accomplished it) is the MOUSE control in curses >> over SSH from a WINDOWS box?! That's amazing. > I first saw that in the vi clone "elvis." Shortly after I suggested > it to its author. But maybe he was already working on it. I first ran into it in Pine. I think the mouse support itself started out as an xterm feature, and then was copied by a lot of other terminal emulators, including PuTTY.

Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:19:16 -0500 From: John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Risk of using Iceweasel / firefox Message-ID: <87d4uto8p7.fsf@toncho.dhh.gt.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Doug writes: > It would only be a security issue if the permissions on your home > directory and/or the execs themselves allowed others to execute them. I wrote: > A buggy application (buffer overflow in Firefox...) or an evil bit of > JavaScript could be used by a "virus" to install a trojan in $HOME/bin. Doug writes: > If Iceweasel is such a security risk... I did not mean to imply that Firefox is especially insecure. It's just an example. -- John Hasler

Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:39:45 -0700 From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Risk of using Iceweasel / firefox [Was Re: GLIBC_2.4] Message-Id: <2A2D3471-5654-449D-A3F8-F4AC213B286E@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Nov 1, 2007, at 3:16 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 10:28:55AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: >> Doug writes: >>> It would only be a security issue if the permissions on your home >>> directory and/or the execs themselves allowed others to execute >>> them. >> >> A buggy application (buffer overflow in Firefox...) or an evil bit of >> JavaScript could be used by a "virus" to install a trojan in $HOME/ >> bin. > > If Iceweasel is such a security risk, perhaps I should create a > separate > user under which to use it. What all can a buggy Iceweasel allow? Yeah, if we're talking about an application security hole of that kind, it doesn't matter if you have ~/bin in your path or not. The exploit can just add "export PATH=~/bin:$PATH" to your .bashrc itself, or call whatever trojan it's created directly! Having . (single dot) in your PATH is a much more realistic threat, if you ever cd into a directory controlled by another user. I don't see that one too much, although every so often someone who's used to MS-DOS will think it's a clever idea.

Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:52:15 +1100 From: hce <webmail.hce@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Risk of using Iceweasel / firefox Message-ID: <95455e980711011652v266697e9oba26a406598d3ae9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 11/2/07, John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org> wrote: > Doug writes: > > It would only be a security issue if the permissions on your home > > directory and/or the execs themselves allowed others to execute them. > > I wrote: > > A buggy application (buffer overflow in Firefox...) or an evil bit of > > JavaScript could be used by a "virus" to install a trojan in $HOME/bin. If both Iceweasel and Firefox have problemes, which browser should be used in Debian? Jim

Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:09:07 +0000 From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> To: 411790@bugs.debian.org Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: RFH: rt2570 -- RT2570 wireless network drivers Message-Id: <1193962147.4832.51.camel@deadeye.i.decadent.org.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vXQew0hcW0Zb8ePHUGPT" --=-vXQew0hcW0Zb8ePHUGPT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Development of the rt2570 driver is nearly dead upstream - it is replaced by the rt2x00 drivers, but they may not yet work as well for everyone. There are unlikely to be any more official, well-tested, releases. None of the developers currently in the pkg-ralink group have access to devices supported by the rt2570 driver. So we need some users of this driver to test new versions of the package before we upload them. If you are willing to do this, please respond to this bug. Ben. --=20 Ben Hutchings Tomorrow will be cancelled due to lack of interest. --=-vXQew0hcW0Zb8ePHUGPT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHKmqj79ZNCRIGYgcRAikSAKChb+JupIsxzqZh6rRCRkhUM1q2YgCcCIW9 RgIpkj1eHGLXmXPrVCauEyA=
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:13:40 -0400 From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude Message-Id: <20071101201340.6b2cc3c6.celejar@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:09:07 -0800 Ken Irving <fnkci@uaf.edu> wrote: [snip] > apt-get user waiting for a reason to change. Two problems I have with > aptitude are the lack of "source" functionality and my inability to spell > it as easily as apt-get. ;-) At least here, it's actually easier; apti <tab> gives aptitude, while apt- <tab> gives 9 different possibilities :) > Ken Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator

Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:19:49 -0700 From: Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com> To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: [Fwd: Re: Installing Packages From Source] Message-ID: <472A6D25.1030709@stikman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I accidentally replied to the sender and not the list. Jeff -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Installing Packages From Source Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 15:40:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com> To: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> > On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 08:23:29 -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: >> There are a few packages that I install directly from source onto my >> system. On Aptitude I noticed the markauto option. Should I let >> aptitude >> know that I have installed those packages manually? > > That should not be necessary; aptitude assumes "manually" anyway for > packages which it did not install itself. > >> The packages that I have installed by source are: >> >> MIMEDefang >> Dovecot >> SpamAssassin > > You can check what aptitude thinks about them: > > aptitude search spamassassin dovecot mimedefang > > Manually installed packages have status "i " while automatically > installed ones have "i A". They have a "c" next to them. Jeff

Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:20:22 -0700 From: Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com> To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: [Fwd: Re: Installing Packages From Source] Message-ID: <472A6D46.2010207@stikman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I accidentally replied to the sender and not the list. Jeff -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Installing Packages From Source Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 15:43:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Grossman <jeff@stikman.com> To: Douglas A. Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> > On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 08:23:29AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: >> There are a few packages that I install directly from source onto my >> system. On Aptitude I noticed the markauto option. Should I let >> aptitude >> know that I have installed those packages manually? >> >> The packages that I have installed by source are: >> >> MIMEDefang >> Dovecot >> SpamAssassin > > It depends on what you mean. If you compile from source directly into > the individual files that make up an app and _not_ into a package, you > should keep them out of directories controlled by apt (i.e. put them in > /usr/local or /opt). If you want them in the default locations, you > should do it the "debian way" and make a custom package, then install > that custom package with apt. As long as you indicate in the version > number that its custom, aptitude should put it under "Obsolete or > Locally Installed". > > That's the theory. I've never actually done it. Anything I create, I > put in /usr/local or /opt. Good suggestions. I will have to read up on building a package the "debian way". Thanks, Jeff

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Date: 2 Nov 2007 00:08:35 GMT From: "Cameron L. Spitzer" <cls@truffula.sj.ca.us> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: "Waiting for root file system..." hang solved Message-ID: <slrnfikqk4.98s.spambait@truffula.sj.ca.us> I googled for the answer and didn't find it, and lots of people asking, so this is for the next person with the same problem. I installed a Debian Etch workstation, tasksel: desktop, guided partitioning, the six partitions (/ /usr /var /home /tmp swap) way. Works great. I upgraded to Lenny, the October 29 2007 weekly CD. This leaves a GRUB menu with an Etch kernel and a Lenny kernel. The Etch kernel boots just fine. The Lenny kernel hangs at "Waiting for root file system..." and eventually you get that (initramfs) prompt from the Busybox shell, which means it never found the root FS. Turns out this is because Etch thinks this PATA drive is /dev/hda, but Lenny thinks the exact same drive is /dev/sda. So the /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst files have the root file system as /dev/hda1, which no longer exists. I hear ubuntu Fiesty has the same problem. The fix is to edit /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst and change all the hard drive partition device names to unique file system volume labels. /dev/hda1 becomes LABEL=a-root or whatever you like. Then use e2label(8) to add volume labels to all the file systems. I also labeled the swap image. While you're at it, /etc/uswsusp.conf is wrong, too. (Can that file use a swap volume label instead of a device name? The manpage doesn't say.) This causes a pause during boot, where resume: is looking for the wrong swap device. Once all the partitions are labeled, you can make new initrd images. update-initramfs -u -k all You could have a debate about whether this is an installer bug, a kernel package bug, a udev bug, or operator error. Cameron

Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:10:45 -0500 From: John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Risk of using Iceweasel / firefox Message-ID: <87wst17bi2.fsf@toncho.dhh.gt.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jim writes: > If both Iceweasel and Firefox have problemes, which browser should be > used in Debian? All software has bugs. I didn't mean to single out Firefox. It was just an example. -- John Hasler

Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:36:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> To: justsimplequestions <sigmatechnology@googlemail.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: apt-get failing Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.64.0711011932400.98648@freire2.furyyjbeyq.arg> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed See if you can get out to google.com with your browser and if you do so, have your browser refresh the page and see if the google.com page comes up again. If it doesn't you've either got a modem needing updating or another internet connectivity problem. you could try dhclient -r && ifconfig eth0 -promisc && dhclient and see if your network comes up. Then try apt-get update again to see what happens. Same failure, your modem may need updating of software and/or firmware.

Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:47:41 -0700 (PDT) From: joseph lockhart <jwl_andlovesaidno@yahoo.com> To: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude Message-ID: <145987.74589.qm@web59309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'll through in my 2cts worth on this. i personally find that aptitude is a stronger program, especially for newer users, after using both, aptitude seems to keep the system cleaner with less loose ends and is less likely to break dependencies. at least that is my experience jwlockhart jwlockhart this user is penguin powered __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 http://mail.yahoo.com=20

Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:14:15 +0530 From: Raj Kiran Grandhi <grajkiran@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: resolv.conf question Message-ID: <472A8EFF.6000209@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul E Condon wrote: > I'm running Etch. My resolv.conf starts with the line: > > # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! > > and contains entries that I want to have new different > values. I want to change the values in a way that last > through a reboot, and I'd like to do it by editting > a file using vim. What is the file that is the > authoritative source of nameserver addresses? > > TIA You can just apt-get remove network-manager What is your network like? Do you have a static ip or use dhcp? If you know your ip settings do not change, then just Modify /etc/network/interfaces, /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/networks to suit your needs. If you are using dhcp, then you might want to look into /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2724 ************************************************** Received on Thu Nov 1 23:00:33 2007

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