Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:09:30 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: libgtkhtml: need help with compilation error
Message-ID: <20071102150930.GV29856@localhost.localdomain>
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On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 07:06:07AM -0700, Rehceb Rotkiv wrote:
>=20
> Hi all!
>=20
> I'm trying to compile GtkHTML 3.16.1 (which I need for compiling the newe=
st
> Evolution). The configure script runs through without errors. make, howev=
er,
> terminates with these errors:
>=20
> ...
> testgtkhtml.o: In function `print_preview_cb':
> /home/vibe/evo-sources/gtkhtml-3.16.1/src/testgtkhtml.c:354: undefined
> reference to `gtk_print_operation_new'
> /home/vibe/evo-sources/gtkhtml-3.16.1/src/testgtkhtml.c:355: undefined
> reference to `gtk_print_operation_set_n_pages'
> /home/vibe/evo-sources/gtkhtml-3.16.1/src/testgtkhtml.c:361: undefined
> reference to `gtk_print_operation_run'
> testgtkhtml.o: In function `draw_page_cb':
> /home/vibe/evo-sources/gtkhtml-3.16.1/src/testgtkhtml.c:324: undefined
> reference to `gtk_print_context_create_pango_layout'
> testgtkhtml.o: In function `print_footer':
> /home/vibe/evo-sources/gtkhtml-3.16.1/src/testgtkhtml.c:300: undefined
> reference to `gtk_print_context_get_cairo_context'
> ./.libs/libgtkhtml-3.14.so: undefined reference to
> `gtk_page_setup_get_page_width'
> ./.libs/libgtkhtml-3.14.so: undefined reference to `pango_units_to_double'
> ./.libs/libgtkhtml-3.14.so: undefined reference to
> `gtk_print_context_get_page_setup'
> ./.libs/libgtkhtml-3.14.so: undefined reference to
> `gtk_page_setup_get_page_height'
> ./.libs/libgtkhtml-3.14.so: undefined reference to
> `gtk_print_context_create_pango_context'
> ./.libs/libgtkhtml-3.14.so: undefined reference to
> `gtk_print_context_get_height'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> ...
>=20
> I have the necessary libraries installed (from Debian's *-dev packages) =
--
> at least I think so! Do you have an idea what might be wrong?
definitely looks like you're missing a library there. or at least
missing an include for GtkPrintOperation. That's per google and I'm no
dev.
On my system, the function gtk_print_operation_new is provided by
/usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtkprintoperation.h, part of libgtk2.0-dev.=20
I found this by a quick google on the undefined references above and a
little grepping in /usr/include. You can probably do this as well...
A
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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:10:12 -0400
From: AJ Milne <ajmilne@well.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: A little Debian love
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... Dunno if this is entirely appropriate for this list or not. Thing is, I'm one of those users who's never really into the mailing lists, as I've never really needed them...
Which, would, actually, be the subject of this message...
This is just to say to the Debian developers and package maintainers and so on: Debian has worked for me wonderfully for many, many years, now. So thank you, all of you. Very, very much. And a longer post with the same general message is at:
http://accidentalweblog.org/index.php?itemid=336
... thanks all.
--
AJ Milne
http://accidentalweblog.org/
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:48:06 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: resolv.conf question
Message-ID: <20071102154806.GW29856@localhost.localdomain>
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On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 05:20:56PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I'm running Etch. My resolv.conf starts with the line:
>=20
> # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit!
>=20
> and contains entries that I want to have new different
> values. I want to change the values in a way that last
> through a reboot, and I'd like to do it by editting
> a file using vim. What is the file that is the=20
> authoritative source of nameserver addresses?
I found this:
http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManagerConfigurationSpecification
but couldn't tell from a quick read where those configs were supposed
to go. Most of the way down the page it referes to DNS settings.=20
I don't use NM, so I leave implementing it up to you ;)
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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:01:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: ISHWAR RATTAN <rattan@cps.cmich.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: X11 header and library files?
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.61.0711021159490.9267@cps155.cps.cmich.edu>
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What .deb package contains X11-header and libraries for
developmental work?
-ishwar
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:51:28 +0530
From: Raj Kiran Grandhi <grajkiran@gmail.com>
To: ISHWAR RATTAN <rattan@cps.cmich.edu>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: X11 header and library files?
Message-ID: <472B4E88.7090408@gmail.com>
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ISHWAR RATTAN wrote:
> What .deb package contains X11-header and libraries for
> developmental work?
>
> -ishwar
apt-cache is your friend for this. Try,
apt-cache search <keywords>
man apt-cache for more info
HTH
Raj Kiran
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:50:21 -0600
From: John Schmidt <john.andrew.schmidt@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: chroot testing of apache installation with multiple fqdn
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Hi,
I am testing out the installation of some software that involves specifying
hostname information for the install. I have set up a minimal chroot
environment and downloaded all of the debian packages and the other software
that is needed to build it.
I am using this on my laptop that is brought back and forth from home to work.
While at work, I have a static routable address assigned to me via dhcp. At
home, the laptop sits on my private lan with a 192.168.1.*. statically
assigned.
One of the pieces of software I install is apache and a routeable
address/hostname is required as part of the install procedure for apache and
some of the other software.
If I do the install testing from home with my 192.168.1.* address in my chroot
environment, things work fine. However, if I am at work testing the install
done at home, then the apache web server won't be able to start. Likewise,
installs done at work and then tested at home have issues when starting
apache.
Is there a way to set up my chroot environment (or perhaps it is an apache
issue) that allows me the freedom to move the machine from one network to
another and just always go to the localhost instead of the actual machine
name/routeable address while still allow apache to start up regardless of
where the initial apache installation was done?
Thanks for any insight into this matter.
John Schmidt
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:52:51 +0200
From: Bogdan Marian <mendingo84@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
Subject: Re: intall nvidia driver on debian lenny
Message-ID: <472CA763.8020703@gmail.com>
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Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 20:31:09 +0200, Bogdan Marian wrote:
>
>> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 19:21:00 +0200, Bogdan Marian wrote:
>>>
>>>> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Bogdan Marian wrote:
>>>>>>>
>
> [...]
>
>
>>>>>>> Nick, I'm running Lenny, so nvidia-glx is not in the repos...
>>>>>>> Michal, I tried the methods on that page and it didn't work... Last
>>>>>>> thing i tried was to install the NVIDIA way, using the Nvidia .bin
>>>>>>> supplied from their home site...still no luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Which kernel do you run? (Post the output of "uname -a".)
>>>>>
>>>>> Which nvidia card are we talking about? (Post the relevant part of your
>>>>> "lspci" output.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Which version of the nvidia driver did you install? (We need the exact
>>>>> name of the file that you downloaded and executed.) Did you get any
>>>>> error messages or warnings when you attempted the installation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Change your xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver and (re)start X. After it
>>>>> fails/crashes, run the following two commands and post their output:
>>>>>
>>>>> egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>>>>>
>>>>> egrep -i 'nvidia|glx' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>>>>>
>
> [...]
>
>
>> No error while installing ( except for a warning about the version of the
>> gcc (it 4.2 as i'm on lenny) )
>>
>
> I think it can cause problems if you use a different version of gcc to
> compile the nvidia module (as compared to what was used to compile the
> kernel).
>
>
>> NVIDIA FX5200
>>
>> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run
>>
>> mydebian:/home/bogdan# lspci
>>
>
> [...]
>
>
>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
>>
>
> [...]
>
>
>> mydebian:/home/bogdan# uname -a
>> Linux mydebian 2.6.22-2-686 #1 SMP Fri Aug 31 00:24:01 UTC 2007 i686
>> GNU/Linux
>>
>> (II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions
>> is
>> (II) NVIDIA(0): enabled.
>> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
>> (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
>> (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
>> (II) UnloadModule: "wfb"
>> (II) UnloadModule: "fb"
>> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
>>
>> Fatal server error:
>> no screens found
>>
>
> OK, it does load the Xorg driver for nvidia ("nvidia_drv.so" and/or
> "nvidia_drv.o" located in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/) but then it
> cannot load the nvidia kernel module (nvidia.ko).
>
> First, check if the kernel module exists at all:
>
> find /lib/modules/2.6.22-2-686/ -name nvidia.ko
>
> (I would expect that the file exists; the nvidia installer should have
> given you a clear error if it had not been able to create the module.)
>
> If the file exists, try to load it by running as root:
>
> modprobe -v nvidia
>
> (I suspect your problem is caused by the gcc version mismatch and/or the
> paravirt/GPL-only issue. I hope that the modprobe command will give you
> an error message which tells us what exactly is going on.)
>
>
Hello,
This is what is gives me....btw, sorry for the late answer..:
mydebian:/lib/modules/2.6.22-2-686# modprobe -v nvidia
install /sbin/lrm-video nvidia
sh: /sbin/lrm-video: No such file or directory
FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
<title></title>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Florian Kulzer wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid20071031192629.GA27915@pc0197" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 20:31:09 +0200, Bogdan Marian wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Florian Kulzer wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 19:21:00 +0200, Bogdan Marian wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Florian Kulzer wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Bogdan Marian wrote:
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
[...]
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Nick, I'm running Lenny, so nvidia-glx is not in the repos...
Michal, I tried the methods on that page and it didn't work... Last
thing i tried was to install the NVIDIA way, using the Nvidia .bin
supplied from their home site...still no luck.
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">Which kernel do you run? (Post the output of "uname -a".)
Which nvidia card are we talking about? (Post the relevant part of your
"lspci" output.)
Which version of the nvidia driver did you install? (We need the exact
name of the file that you downloaded and executed.) Did you get any
error messages or warnings when you attempted the installation?
Change your xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver and (re)start X. After it
fails/crashes, run the following two commands and post their output:
egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
egrep -i 'nvidia|glx' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
[...]
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">No error while installing ( except for a warning about the version of the
gcc (it 4.2 as i'm on lenny) )
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
I think it can cause problems if you use a different version of gcc to
compile the nvidia module (as compared to what was used to compile the
kernel).
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">NVIDIA FX5200
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run
mydebian:/home/bogdan# lspci
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
[...]
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
[...]
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">mydebian:/home/bogdan# uname -a
Linux mydebian 2.6.22-2-686 #1 SMP Fri Aug 31 00:24:01 UTC 2007 i686
GNU/Linux
(II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions
is
(II) NVIDIA(0): enabled.
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
(EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
(II) UnloadModule: "wfb"
(II) UnloadModule: "fb"
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
Fatal server error:
no screens found
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
OK, it does load the Xorg driver for nvidia ("nvidia_drv.so" and/or
"nvidia_drv.o" located in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/) but then it
cannot load the nvidia kernel module (nvidia.ko).
First, check if the kernel module exists at all:
find /lib/modules/2.6.22-2-686/ -name nvidia.ko
(I would expect that the file exists; the nvidia installer should have
given you a clear error if it had not been able to create the module.)
If the file exists, try to load it by running as root:
modprobe -v nvidia
(I suspect your problem is caused by the gcc version mismatch and/or the
paravirt/GPL-only issue. I hope that the modprobe command will give you
an error message which tells us what exactly is going on.)
</pre>
</blockquote>
Hello,<br>
<br>
This is what is gives me....btw, sorry for the late answer..:<br>
<br>
mydebian:/lib/modules/2.6.22-2-686# modprobe -v nvidia<br>
install /sbin/lrm-video nvidia<br>
sh: /sbin/lrm-video: No such file or directory<br>
FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia<br>
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Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:34:01 -0500
From: John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: GLIBC_2.4
Message-ID: <87sl3oip3a.fsf@toncho.dhh.gt.org>
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I wrote:
> See my other reponse to this thread. ~/bin at the front of $PATH is a
> security risk.
Miles writes:
> It an attacker is able to install stuff in ~/bin, they can (and almost
> certainly would) also modify your .profile (etc) to change PATH
> themselves.
There are a number of such exposures for the naive users that are now
starting to put Linux on their computers. They will be exploited when the
number of vulnerable machines gets large enough.
--
John Hasler
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:58:39 -0800
From: Ken Irving <fnkci@uaf.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude
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On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 07:25:58AM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 11:09:07AM -0800, Ken Irving <fnkci@uaf.edu> was heard to say:
> > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 08:19:58PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > > No, I just come down hard on this meme because it seems to have taken
> > > on a life of its own and I'd like to squash it before it grows up into a
> > > full-blown urban legend.
> >
> > That sounds good, but is it different now than it used to be? I haven't
> > tried it lately, but it used to "seem" to want to remove lots of things.
> > I'm aware of the workarounds (keep-all or whatever), have followed most
> > of the threads (even instigated some...), but am still a command-line
> > apt-get user waiting for a reason to change. Two problems I have with
> > aptitude are the lack of "source" functionality and my inability to spell
> > it as easily as apt-get. ;-)
>
> There were bugs in some past versions. As far as I know, the worst
> ones (e.g., #411123) were fixed in etch. There were some new bugs
> introduced in unstable with the switchover to using apt to track unused
> packages (where aptitude would even want to remove packages it had just
> installed), but those should be fixed in 0.4.7.
>
> There are a few corner cases in which aptitude will do the wrong
> thing.
>
> * Marking a package for removal in aptitude, exiting, removing it with
> apt-get, installing it again with apt-get, then running aptitude.
> aptitude will still remember that you want to remove the package.
>
> * If you interrupt aptitude before it writes its state database, it
> will sometimes get confused about the system state, especially if
> you proceed to run apt-get before aptitude. (I can't remember the
> precise sequence of events that have to happen to trigger this off
> the top of my head)
>
> Those are the only ways I can think of offhand to get aptitude to
> remove packages you didn't ask it to. Unfortunately, there's no
> reliable way to tell if someone else has fiddled with a package
> (#429438), so as long as aptitude tries to save and restore the current
> state, there will be a few edge cases like this.
>
> Anything I didn't list above is a bug that I don't know about.
>
> Daniel
Thank you! I just did an aptitude upgrade, and that old remove-everything
problem is indeed gone, and no obscure workarounds needed.
FWIW, a "newubie doc" referenced earlier in this thread,
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Aptitude_-_using_together_with_Synaptic_and_Apt-get
perpetuates this particular meme, linking back to an old thread based
apparently on that bug.
Ken
--
Ken Irving, fnkci+debianuser@uaf.edu
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:04:46 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Installing a promise ata 66 pci ide card
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On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 11:06:32PM -0700, Sam wrote:
>
> I have reached a storage conundrum, i have a dual p3 server 1gbit ram
> running off a 9 gig scsi as well as 4 ide hdd's totalling 1.5Terabytes. The
> problem is: I cannot afford scsi drives and i have used up all 4 ide slots.
> I am trying to plan for expansion, I happen to have a promise ultra ata 66
> pci card with two ide slots. My question being what is necessary to install
> this promise card? I tried googling but there was nothing but "debian not
> recognizing hard disks, using promise card" etc, nothing about installing
> the card on a boxen that already has debian on it.
>
> As a side note, if anyone has any other suggestions for expansion, feel free
> to field them, as I am not set in my ways ;)
Why not install a SATA card (PATA cables block too much air flow, among
other problems), and you don't get into the master/slave controller
contention issues with SATA. This gives you lots of expansion options.
I don't know about brands of cards. My MB has 7 SATA ports.
Check out addonics.com. Their products that work with linux are listed
as working with linux.
Doug.
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:04:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rehceb Rotkiv <scame@fastmail.fm>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: libgtkhtml: need help with compilation error
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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>
> definitely looks like you're missing a library there. or at least
> missing an include for GtkPrintOperation. That's per google and I'm no
> dev.
>
> On my system, the function gtk_print_operation_new is provided by
> /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtkprintoperation.h, part of libgtk2.0-dev.
>
> I found this by a quick google on the undefined references above and a
> little grepping in /usr/include. You can probably do this as well...
>
> A
>
Hi Andrew,
thanks for your help. My GTK (libgtk2.0-dev from the Etch repos) does not
have /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtkprintoperation.h! I compiled it from source and
now have this file in /usr/local/include/gtk-2.0/. How do I tell configure
and/or make to look for GTK at this location? I already tried
$ ./configure LD_LIBRARY_PATH='/usr/local/include'
(without knowing what exactly I was doing), but it didn't work.
Regards,
Rehceb
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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:08:53 -0400
From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: X11 header and library files?
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ISHWAR RATTAN(rattan@cps.cmich.edu) is reported to have said:
> What .deb package contains X11-header and libraries for
> developmental work?
??
Have you tried
apt-cache search X11 |grep lib |grep -- -dev
apt-cache search X11 |grep header
W
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Southern DOS: Y'all reckon? (Yep/Nope)
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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:48:38 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: libgtkhtml: need help with compilation error
Message-ID: <20071102174838.GA29856@localhost.localdomain>
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On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:04:10AM -0700, Rehceb Rotkiv wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >=20
> > definitely looks like you're missing a library there. or at least
> > missing an include for GtkPrintOperation. That's per google and I'm no
> > dev.
> >=20
> > On my system, the function gtk_print_operation_new is provided by
> > /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtkprintoperation.h, part of libgtk2.0-dev.=20
> >=20
> > I found this by a quick google on the undefined references above and a
> > little grepping in /usr/include. You can probably do this as well...
> >=20
>=20
> thanks for your help. My GTK (libgtk2.0-dev from the Etch repos) does not
> have /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtkprintoperation.h! I compiled it from source =
and
> now have this file in /usr/local/include/gtk-2.0/. How do I tell configure
> and/or make to look for GTK at this location? I already tried
>=20
> $ ./configure LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D'/usr/local/include'=20
>=20
> (without knowing what exactly I was doing), but it didn't work.
sorry. out of my league. try ./configure --help as that doesn't look
like a valid ./configure option to my eye. Maybe,=20
export LD_LI... ; ./configure=20
but I'm just guessing.
A
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