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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2746
Today's Topics:
Re: How to check tftp server is runn [ Raj Kiran Grandhi ]
Re: alsaplayer does not work as norm [ steef ]
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:17:20 +0530
From: Raj Kiran Grandhi <grajkiran@gmail.com>
To: hce <webmail.hce@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to check tftp server is running?
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hce wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just installed tftp and tftpd package by apt-get. But, I could
> not see the tftp server running. Actually, I could not figure out
> where is the tftp script. In FC6, the tftp script is in xinit.d. In
> Debian, there is not xinit.d.
I have had good results by installing the tftpd-hpa package. You can run
it from either inetd or standalone. For running the standalone version
you need to disable it in /etc/inetd.conf and set the relevant flag to
"yes" in /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
>
> How can I check whether the tftp server is running or not? And, if
> not, which command I can call to run the tftp server?
Install some tftp client (say tftp-hpa), then try getting a file from
the machine:
==
$ tftp localhost
tftp> get somefile
==
If you get an error almost immediately saying the file could not be
found, that means the server is running :)
--
Raj Kiran Grandhi
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:24:18 +0530
From: Raj Kiran Grandhi <grajkiran@gmail.com>
To: jekillen <jekillen@prodigy.net>
Cc: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Minolta driver and management software for Linux
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jekillen wrote:
>
> On Nov 4, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
>
>> jekillen wrote:
>>> Hello:
>>> I am trying to set up a Minolta Magicolor QMS printer.
>>> The printer is a postscript laser printer.
>>> (The actual model number is QMS 6110 and it is dis-
>>> continued). The printer is set up to connect via ether-
>>> net.
>>> I obtained the software for it from the Konica Minolta
>>> site today. It is Page Scope for Linux but the documen-
>>> tation refers to Red Hat and Suse with 2.2.x kernels.
>>
>> If it is a postscript printer and the manufacturer has provided you
>> with the .ppd file, you should be able use that ppd file to print to
>> the printer. You might want to install cupsys and go to
>> http://localhost:631 for installing and configuring your printer
> Yes, I believe I do have the ppd file, it was with the software for the
> Mac OSX
> set up. Where would I put the file? (a particular directory for that?
> Mac does have
> a dedicated dir for those files).
> thank you for your response.
> Jeff K
You can go to http://localhost:631 (after installing cupsys)
From there follow the steps to install a printer. On one of the pages
you will be given the choice of selecting a driver or uploading your ppd
file.
I don't know whether you can use the ppd file from the Mac driver in
linux. Theoretically, I think it should work, but I never manager to get
one of our network printers to work in linux using the windows ppd file.
Anyway, the procedure is simple enough, so is worth a shot.
--
Raj Kiran Grandhi
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:42:39 -0200
From: "Jose Roberto B. de A. Monteiro" <jrm@sel.eesc.usp.br>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: alsaplayer does not work as normal user
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Hello list,
I was with my sound (alsa) work perfectly on my laptop, but for an
unremembered reason I ran alsoconf as root. It causes the strange
behavior of alsplayer, aplay, etc., to stop working for normal users.
They only run for root. I checked groups and permissions, and it seems
ok. All users are in group audio, as well as related devices and proc
files. I do not want to install all the system again, so I wonder if
anyone has any idea of what is happening... If I run aplay, for example,
I get the following error message:
~ $ aplay wavs/scieh.wav
ALSA lib confmisc.c:769:(parse_card) cannot find card ''
ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat
returned error: No such device
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
returned error: No such device
ALSA lib conf.c:3982:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
aplay: main:545: audio open error: No such device
The wierd thing is that as root, I get no error and the sound is played
perfectly.
Also, sound in skype was ok, but now, it does not work too.
My lspci | grep -i audio:
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
# lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_intel 239160 1
snd_pcm_oss 39200 0
snd_mixer_oss 15424 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 72324 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 21028 1 snd_pcm
snd 48324 8
snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 7520 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 9512 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
Any idea?
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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:12:58 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian Failure Setting Password
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On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 08:47:27PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> I've run into a problem after I performed the following:
>
> [1] Changed the password for my root user with the usermod command.
> [2] Changed the password of a non-root user with the usermod command.
> [3] Added a new user with a password using the useradd command.
>
> After making these changes I could no longer log in as the root user
> or the non-root user for whom I changed the password. I also could not
> log in as the new user. I tried this with both old and new passwords.
> (All user names were recognized, but Debian is telling me the
> passwords are incorrect.)
>
> I booted with the System Rescue CD and followed the advice at this link:
No need for a system-rescue CD since the machine boots. Just boot with
init=/bin/sh and you're in without a password as root. Of course, / is
mounted ro so you'll have to remount it.
Use passwd next time.
Doug.
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:14:18 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: "Waiting for root file system..." hang solved
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On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 09:14:44PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> it turns out you can do a reasonable amount of stuff in that busybox
> shell and if the system is close to booting, you can get it to
> go. What I was missing, and desperately wanted, was some kind of text
> editor. I ended up have to do some funky 'cat'ing of files and text
> input to tweak an encryption-key script. Not fun without an editor,
> but you sure can do it...
>
You mean that the busybox doesn't have any editor at all? The busybox
package (not necessarily the same as the initrd version) has vi and ed.
No ed in the initrd?
Doug.
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:21:03 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to read http mails in mutt mail reader (vim)?
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On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 07:31:53PM +1100, hce wrote:
> I've just installed mutt in Debian, one problem is there are some
> mails from news lists with HTTP format, it was fine when I use Mozilla
> mail reader, but with mutt and vim, I could not read the HTTP format
> mails. One solution I can think of is to use lynx, but I don't know
> how to config mutt with lynx. How do you handle this issue?
>
If you mean that the mail content is in html, if you hit 'v' you get the
list of attachments. Arrow down to the html version and hit enter.
Mutt should start up lynx for you (if you're in a VT) or whatever
browser if you're in X (never tried that).
If you mean that plain-text emails include http://... type references,
just open up another VT and fire up lynx.
Doug.
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:48:45 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Could not adjust time
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On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 09:08:48AM -0500, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> hce wrote:
> >
> > I press the right button of the mouse to the clock time on the panel,
> > but there is not adjust time to change the time. What is missing ...
>
> Insufficient information to come up with a solution. Is it KDE or gnome or
> some other desktop environment? What panel are you running, Which version
> of the panel program is it? What is your distribution (stable, testing,
> unstable)? If you do not want to be bothered with all this then just use
> the date command as Gerard suggested.
>
Also, how is an ordinary user supposed to click on anything and change
the system time. Root shouldn't be running X to be able to change the
system time. Unless the thing the user clicks on links to some su
system.
Doug.
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:50:43 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: hard disk device name change after reboot
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On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:26:03PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 10:26:52AM +0800, hhding.gnu wrote:
> > It seems it works with some filesystem and do *NOT* work for swap
> > partition. here as I show below, hde1 is swap partition and there are
> > no label or uuid exists. as I know, tune2fs can add uuid or label for
> > ext2/ext3 partitions. How can I add uuid or label for swap partition
> > then?
> >
>
> sorry no help on swap.
man mkswap has an -L label option. Are we saying that it doesn't work?
>
> > Another question is, can I add uuid as device name in grub's menu.lst?
> > (something like kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-2-686 root=/dev/sde2 ro)
>
> root=uuid=/dev/sde2, I think.
>
> A
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:39:54 -0800
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: "Waiting for root file system..." hang solved
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On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 09:14:18AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 09:14:44PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> =20
> > it turns out you can do a reasonable amount of stuff in that busybox
> > shell and if the system is close to booting, you can get it to
> > go. What I was missing, and desperately wanted, was some kind of text
> > editor. I ended up have to do some funky 'cat'ing of files and text
> > input to tweak an encryption-key script. Not fun without an editor,
> > but you sure can do it...=20
> >=20
>=20
> You mean that the busybox doesn't have any editor at all? The busybox
> package (not necessarily the same as the initrd version) has vi and ed.
> No ed in the initrd? =20
I didn't look real hard, but I did look. I thought of ed, but maybe I
just didn't see it. I can induce a "waiting for root" situation easily
on my laptop... I'll confirm it.
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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:21:36 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: V?: home network behind a firewall/router
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On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:34:29PM +0100, P?l Cs?nyi wrote:
> 2007/11/4, Douglas A. Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>:
> > On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 07:46:20PM +0100, P?l Cs?nyi wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a Cable Modem connection to my ISP.
> > >
> my ISP
> |
> Cable Modem connection to my ISP
> |
> eth3
> get an IP address
> from dhcp server of my ISP
> 10.91.0.xxx
> |
> PC box-1 firewall/gateway
> =========================
> eth1 eth2
> 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.1
> | |
> LAN DMZ
> | |
> eth0 eth0
> 192.168.1.98 192.168.2.100
> | |
> PC box-2 PC box-3
> desktop server
> Debian Etch Debian Etch
> =========== ===========
>
> > > I can connect from the PC box-1 to the internet,
> > > but can't connect from LAN & from DMZ to the internet.
> > >
> > > I use shorewall on all boxes, but even when I do
> > > shorewall clear on all boxes, I still can't to connect to the
> > > internet from LAN & DMZ.
> > >
> > > On the firewall/gateway I have dhcp server which give
> > > IP addresses to box-2 & box-3.
> > >
> > > I set up on both box-2 & box-3 the dhcp client to get the
> > > domain-name-servers, and have these servers in resolv.conf.
> >
> > Did you enable packet forwarding on box 1?
>
> Yes I did.
> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> is 1
>
> > Is shorewall masquerading for you?
>
> No, I have not a public IP address yet, so I don't need it.
Yes, you do. You have three networks: 192.168.1.0, 192.168.2.0, and
10.91.0.0. The cable modem will route from the 10.91.0.0 but won't
route from other networks.
> > Test by pinging by IP number and worry about DNS once IP works.
^^^^^^^^^
>
> from PC box-1 ping PC box-2
> ping 192.168.1.98
> OK
>
> from PC box-1 ping PC box-3
> ping 192.168.2.100
> OK
>
> from PC box-1 ping www.google.com
> ping www.google.com
> OK
What IP number does it ping?
>
> from PC box-2 ping PC box-1
> ping 192.168.1.1
> OK
>
> from PC box-2 ping www.google.com
> ping www.google.com
> ping: unknown host www.google.com
>
Try pining google's IP number (from above).
> from PC box-3 ping PC box-1
> ping 192.168.1.1
> OK
>
> from PC box-3 ping www.google.com
> ping www.google.com
> ping: unknown host www.google.com
>
>
ditto.
> I set up on PC box-1 & box-2 & box-3 dhcpclient so
> they get domain-name-servers of my ISP correctly.
> I can see the correct nameservers in resolv.conf
> of both boxes.
>
> I don't understand what is missing here more?
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:19:22 +0530
From: Raj Kiran Grandhi <grajkiran@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, pabs@debian.org
Subject: Re: disable mounting of bogus CD device on Toshiba USB stick?
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Paul Wise wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [As indicated in the Reply-To, please CC me on any replies]
>
> I got a Toshiba USB stick recently. It exposes two devices; a normal
> writable USB mass storage device, and a faked USB optical drive. The
> optical drive contains some windows apps for what seems to be a
> management application for portable applications. Since I run only
> Debian GNU/Linux on my laptop and have no use for the Windows app, I'd
> like GNOME automount to ignore the fake optical drive that the USB stick
> exposes. Does anyone know how to make GNOME not mount specific devices?
>
> This is what lsusb tells me:
>
> Bus 005 Device 005: ID 0930:6540 Toshiba Corp. TransMemory USB Flash Memory
>
> This is what hwinfo tells me:
>
> 2: udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_label_U3_System'
What you have appears to be one of those U3 drives. Visit
http://www.u3.com/uninstall and you will find an uninstall utility using
which you can disable the cdrom 'feature'. Unfortunately, the
uninstaller runs only on windows, so you will need access to some
windows box to run it from.
Apart from using the uninstaller, I do not think there is any way to
disable the annoying cdrom completely.
--
Raj Kiran Grandhi
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:38:14 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: disable mounting of bogus CD device on Toshiba USB stick?
Message-ID: <20071105153814.GH6395@titan.hooton>
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On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 06:57:09PM +1100, Paul Wise wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [As indicated in the Reply-To, please CC me on any replies]
>
> I got a Toshiba USB stick recently. It exposes two devices; a normal
> writable USB mass storage device, and a faked USB optical drive. The
> optical drive contains some windows apps for what seems to be a
> management application for portable applications. Since I run only
> Debian GNU/Linux on my laptop and have no use for the Windows app, I'd
> like GNOME automount to ignore the fake optical drive that the USB stick
> exposes. Does anyone know how to make GNOME not mount specific devices?
>
> This is what lsusb tells me:
>
> Bus 005 Device 005: ID 0930:6540 Toshiba Corp. TransMemory USB Flash Memory
[snip]
> PS: If anyone from Toshiba is reading, I'd love to be able alter the
> stick so that it doesn't expose this bogus USB optical drive, so send me
> some specs please :)
Does /var/log/syslog give you one device or two? Are they two
partitions on one drive or what? If so, can you just repartition the
USB stick so that there is only one and put a new filesystem on the new
partition?
Doug.
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:45:22 +0000
From: steef <steefvanduin@zonnet.nl>
To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: alsaplayer does not work as normal user
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Jose Roberto B. de A. Monteiro wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I was with my sound (alsa) work perfectly on my laptop, but for an
> unremembered reason I ran alsoconf as root. It causes the strange
> behavior of alsplayer, aplay, etc., to stop working for normal users.
> They only run for root. I checked groups and permissions, and it seems
> ok. All users are in group audio, as well as related devices and proc
> files. I do not want to install all the system again, so I wonder if
> anyone has any idea of what is happening... If I run aplay, for example,
> I get the following error message:
>
> ~ $ aplay wavs/scieh.wav
> ALSA lib confmisc.c:769:(parse_card) cannot find card ''
> ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
> snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
> ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
> ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat
> returned error: No such device
> ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
> ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
> returned error: No such device
> ALSA lib conf.c:3982:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
> ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
> aplay: main:545: audio open error: No such device
>
> The wierd thing is that as root, I get no error and the sound is played
> perfectly.
>
> Also, sound in skype was ok, but now, it does not work too.
>
> My lspci | grep -i audio:
>
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
> Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
>
> # lsmod | grep snd
> snd_hda_intel 239160 1
> snd_pcm_oss 39200 0
> snd_mixer_oss 15424 1 snd_pcm_oss
> snd_pcm 72324 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
> snd_timer 21028 1 snd_pcm
> snd 48324 8
> snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
> soundcore 7520 1 snd
> snd_page_alloc 9512 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
>
> Any idea?
>
>
>
did you register yourself as audio_user in /etc/group?
steef
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:51:22 +0000
From: steef <steefvanduin@zonnet.nl>
To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: alsaplayer does not work as normal user
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steef wrote:
> Jose Roberto B. de A. Monteiro wrote:
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I was with my sound (alsa) work perfectly on my laptop, but for an
>> unremembered reason I ran alsoconf as root. It causes the strange
>> behavior of alsplayer, aplay, etc., to stop working for normal users.
>> They only run for root. I checked groups and permissions, and it seems
>> ok. All users are in group audio, as well as related devices and proc
>> files. I do not want to install all the system again, so I wonder if
>> anyone has any idea of what is happening... If I run aplay, for example,
>> I get the following error message:
>>
>> ~ $ aplay wavs/scieh.wav
>> ALSA lib confmisc.c:769:(parse_card) cannot find card ''
>> ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
>> snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
>> ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
>> ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat
>> returned error: No such device
>> ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
>> ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
>> returned error: No such device
>> ALSA lib conf.c:3982:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
>> ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
>> aplay: main:545: audio open error: No such device
>>
>> The wierd thing is that as root, I get no error and the sound is played
>> perfectly.
>>
>> Also, sound in skype was ok, but now, it does not work too.
>>
>> My lspci | grep -i audio:
>>
>> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
>> Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
>>
>> # lsmod | grep snd
>> snd_hda_intel 239160 1
>> snd_pcm_oss 39200 0
>> snd_mixer_oss 15424 1 snd_pcm_oss
>> snd_pcm 72324 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
>> snd_timer 21028 1 snd_pcm
>> snd 48324 8
>> snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
>> soundcore 7520 1 snd
>> snd_page_alloc 9512 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
>>
>> Any idea?
>>
>>
>>
> did you register yourself as audio_user in /etc/group?
>
> steef
>
>
sorry. this message went way too fast,
s.
End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2746
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Received on Mon Nov 5 12:12:34 2007