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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2749

Today's Topics: 

  Re: how to read http mails in mutt m  [ "B. L. Jilek"  ]
  Re: alsaplayer does not work as norm  [ "Jose Roberto B. de A. Monteiro"  ]
  Re: ssh port not opening              [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  Re: Programmers Text Editor           [ David Brodbeck  ]

Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:54:50 +0100
From: "B. L. Jilek" <bljilek@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to read http mails in mutt mail reader (vim)? Message-ID: <20071105195444.GA18113@laptop.topazcrow.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1;

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Hi hce!

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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007, hce wrote:

> Thanks Andy and other responses. It is a good solution although I wish
> I could use the vim to read HTML with ability to click the URL links
> like lynx (asking too much :-)).

>=20

> Thank you.

>=20
> Jim

I'm not a Mutt expert but take a look at Roland Rosenfeld's muttrc and mailcap files here: http://www.spinnaker.de/mutt/

His setup displays HTML mail with w3m automatically in the Mutt reading pane.

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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:39:46 -0200
From: "Jose Roberto B. de A. Monteiro" <jordeam@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: alsaplayer does not work as normal user -> Solved! 

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steef wrote:
> Jose Roberto B. de A. Monteiro wrote:

>> steef wrote:
>>  
>>> Jose Roberto B. de A. Monteiro wrote:
>>>    
>>>> Hello list,
>>>>
>>>> I was with my sound (alsa) work perfectly on my laptop, but for an
>>>> unremembered reason I ran alsoconf as root. It causes the strange
>>>> behavior of alsplayer, aplay, etc., to stop working for normal users.
>>>> They only run for root. I checked groups and permissions, and it seems
>>>> ok. All users are in group audio, as well as related devices and proc
>>>> files. I do not want to install all the system again, so I wonder if
>>>>

> took the time to study your first email. i agree with andrei. you
> *could* study alsaconf. my hda-intel chip works fine under etch and
> lenny with the latest alsadriver from the alsa-website.
>

> a question: are you using the alsadriver built into in the debian
> kernel in lenny?
>

> reg.,
> steef

Solved! Sorry to spent away your time... the error is because alsconf created ~/.asoundrc and ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf with something that crashed alsaplayer and related stuff. I removed them and sound started working again... Even skype was not working and now it is working...

Thanks!

Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:50:23 +0000
From: "John O Laoi" <brianolaoi@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: ssh port not opening
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"Do you get any error message when you try to start /etc/init.d/ssh? Is there anything in /var/log/daemon.log? Does the sshd-blocking file /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run exist on your system?"

No errors when I do /etc/init.d ssh start 

# /etc/init.d/ssh stop
# /etc/init.d/ssh start
# cat /var/log/daemon.log | grep ss
#  (nothing)

# find / -name sshd_not_to_be_run

# find / -name ssh_not_to_be_run
# (nothing)# find / -name sshd_not_to_be_run vr-etch:/etc/init.d# find / -name ssh_not_to_be_run vr-etch:/etc/init.d#

"Do this: dpkg --get-selections | grep ssh and send the results. I am wondering if you have the openssh-server installed. You can get everything by just doing aptitude install ssh."

# dpkg --get-selections | grep ssh 

openssh-client                                  install
openssh-server                                  deinstall
#

Thanks to everyone for your help.

Maybe I should remove ssh and reinstall?

John

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"Do you get any error message when you try to start /etc/init.d/ssh? Is
there anything in /var/log/daemon.log? Does the sshd-blocking file
/etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run exist on your system?"



No errors when I do /etc/init.d ssh start

# /etc/init.d/ssh stop
# /etc/init.d/ssh start
# cat /var/log/daemon.log | grep ss
#  (nothing)

# find / -name sshd_not_to_be_run

# find / -name ssh_not_to_be_run
#  (nothing)# find / -name sshd_not_to_be_run
vr-etch:/etc/init.d# find / -name ssh_not_to_be_run
vr-etch:/etc/init.d#




"Do this:  dpkg --get-selections | grep ssh and send the results.  I am

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<br>wondering if you have the openssh-server installed. &nbsp;You can get everything<br>by just doing aptitude install ssh.&quot;<br><br>#&nbsp; dpkg --get-selections | grep ssh<br>openssh-client&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; install <br>openssh-server&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; deinstall<br>#<br><br></div><span class="sg">Thanks to everyone for your help.<br><br>Maybe I should remove ssh and reinstall?<br><br>John<br><br></span><br>
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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:03:27 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ssh port not opening 

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On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 07:50:23PM +0000, John O Laoi wrote:  

> # dpkg --get-selections | grep ssh
> openssh-client install
> openssh-server deinstall
> #
>

Looks like there's your problem. You don't have openssh-server installed.

Doug.

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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:10:15 -0700
From: John Schmidt <john.andrew.schmidt@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Monday 05 November 2007, John O Laoi wrote:

> # dpkg --get-selections | grep ssh
> openssh-client install
> openssh-server deinstall
> #

>

> Thanks to everyone for your help.
>

> Maybe I should remove ssh and reinstall?
>

aptitude install openssh-server

This should solve your problems.

John

Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:08:21 +0000
From: "John O Laoi" <brianolaoi@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: ssh port not opening
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"Looks like there's your problem. You don't have openssh-server installed."

"aptitude install openssh-server
>
> This should solve your problems."

Thanks everyone. That did it.
I suppose that I should have done
#aptitude install ssh openssh-server
in the first place.

John

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<div><div><br>&quot;Looks like there&#39;s your problem. &nbsp;You don&#39;t have openssh-server<br>installed.&quot;<br>&nbsp;</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> &quot;aptitude install openssh-server<br><br>This should solve your problems.&quot;</blockquote><div><br><br>Thanks everyone. That did it.<br>I suppose that I should have done<br>#aptitude install ssh&nbsp; openssh-server<br>in the first place. <br><br>John<br></div><br></div><br>

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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:14:05 +0000
From: steef <steefvanduin@zonnet.nl>
To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: alsaplayer does not work as normal user -> Solved! 

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Jose Roberto B. de A. Monteiro wrote:
> steef wrote:
> 

>> Jose Roberto B. de A. Monteiro wrote:
>>     
>>> steef wrote:
>>>  
>>>       
>>>> Jose Roberto B. de A. Monteiro wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>         
>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was with my sound (alsa) work perfectly on my laptop, but for an
>>>>> unremembered reason I ran alsoconf as root. It causes the strange
>>>>> behavior of alsplayer, aplay, etc., to stop working for normal users.
>>>>> They only run for root. I checked groups and permissions, and it seems
>>>>> ok. All users are in group audio, as well as related devices and proc
>>>>> files. I do not want to install all the system again, so I wonder if
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>> took the time to study your first email. i agree with andrei. you
>> *could* study alsaconf. my hda-intel chip works fine under etch and
>> lenny with the latest  alsadriver from the alsa-website.
>>
>> a question: are you using the alsadriver built into in the debian
>> kernel in lenny?
>>
>> reg.,
>> steef
>>

> Solved! Sorry to spent away your time... the error is because alsconf
> created ~/.asoundrc and ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf with something that
> crashed alsaplayer and related stuff. I removed them and sound started
> working again... Even skype was not working and now it is working...
>

> Thanks!
>
>

>

good to read you solved this problem!

good luck,

steef

Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:35:22 -0800
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ssh port not opening
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On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 09:08:21PM +0000, John O Laoi wrote:
> "Looks like there's your problem. You don't have openssh-server
> installed."

>=20
>=20

> "aptitude install openssh-server
> >
> > This should solve your problems."
>=20
>=20
>=20

> Thanks everyone. That did it.
> I suppose that I should have done
> #aptitude install ssh openssh-server
> in the first place.

one of the first things I did when you posted was look at `apt-cache show ssh` and it depends on openssh-server, so that should have been installed. I'm on sid, so maybe the dependencies are different, but youmight want to investigate why it didn't get pulled in to your system. Or what you may have done to inadvertently remove it.

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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:19:37 -0600
From: Andreas Goesele <Goesele@hfph.mwn.de> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: oleo somebody?
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Hi,

is somebody actually using oleo?

I had a look at it and it seems in theory to fulfill exactly my needs.

But I do have some problems which in fact make it rather unusable:

  1. The manual says that it is possible to write to a LaTeX file. But the command M-C-p only brings up the choice to either write to an ASCII or a postscript file. "M-C-p l" results in nothing. Looking at the code I also get the strong impression that the possibility to write to a LaTeX file is not implemented. (1.99.16-7) Correct?
  2. Trying to print to an postscript file gives an error message: "AfmFontWidth: failed". The resulting postscript file is not usable with gs. Ghostscript gives the following error messages:

Error: /undefinedGPL Ghostscript 8.01: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1  in 20,0
Operand stack:

Execution stack:

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   %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack:

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3. According to the manual "C-x C-s" saves using the current file-format. But I didn't find anything in the documentation how to accutally set this format. If I open a file let's say in the sc format using even the option "-F sc" the file is transformed into the oleo format and saving results in a file in the oleo format.

>From the manual I gather that it should be possible to set the file format using "M-x set-option file". But I don't find the correct format to set this option. "M-x set-option file" results in something like for instance: "Unknown option 'S[@U]'". (The exact error message changes all the time.) "M-x set-option file sc" results in "Unknow option 'sc'". "M-x set-option file=sc" results in "Unknow option 'file=sc'". So what is the correct way to set this option?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Andreas Goesele

Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:22:30 +0100
From: Mauro Darida <robertnospam@nonsense.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: salome in debian etch
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hello all,
I am trying to install salome in debian etch. At the salome website I have downloaded the sarge tarball (there is none for etch). The install wizard says mine is a "not supported linux platform" because is not sarge and recognise only gcc of my system; it wants to install form its binaries the rest of the software (even Opencascade 6.2, whichi is installed on my system, is not recognised).
If I press the help button of the installer and search about the software checking process, it says that "the general rule is that the path to the binaries should be set via PATH environment variable, path to the library should be set via LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable and the python modules should be available via PYTHONPATH variable".
I think I have identified almost all the debian packages which are the dependencies of salome:

libtool
tk8.4
python
sip4
puthon-qt3
libomniorb4c2
libhdf5-serial-1.65.-0
libvtk5
graphviz
doxygen
python-docutils
automake
autoconf

After installing them, I tried to experiment with tk8.4, putting in /etc/profile:
TCLHOME=/usr/lib/tk8.4
export TCLHOME

but the installer keeps saying it will install it from its binaries. Is there anyone who has tried to install salome without re-installing all the system software?

Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:40:09 UT
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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:42:43 -0000
From: BartlebyScrivener <bscrivener42@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Programmers Text Editor
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On Nov 5, 6:30 am, Nate Bargmann <n...@networksplus.net> wrote:

> I've begun to see the need for an editor that works
> with them. So, I have been inspired by this thread to investigate
> Emacs again.

I would not dismiss Vim out of hand.

http://www.debian-administration.org/polls/89

I have to work on both Windows and Debian, and Vim works in both places. Getting Emacs to run on Windows is a pain in the neck.

rd

Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 00:10:21 +0100
From: Gerard Robin <g.robin3@free.fr>
To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Could not adjust time 

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On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 09:23:20AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: 

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>On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 09:48:45AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 09:08:48AM -0500, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
>> > hce wrote:
>> > >=20
>> > > I press the right button of the mouse to the clock time on the panel,
>> > > but there is not adjust time to change the time. What is missing ...
>> >=20
>> > Insufficient information to come up with a solution. Is it KDE or gnom=
e or
>> > some other desktop environment? What panel are you running, Which vers= ion
>> > of the panel program is it? What is your distribution (stable, testing, >> > unstable)? If you do not want to be bothered with all this then just u= se 
>> > the date command as Gerard suggested.
>> >=20
>>=20
>> Also, how is an ordinary user supposed to click on anything and change
>> the system time.  Root shouldn't be running X to be able to change the
>> system time.  Unless the thing the user clicks on links to some su
>> system.
>
>In GNOME (wife's machine), right clicking the panel clock gives and
>"Adjust Date & Time" option, which invokes some gnome-sudo hook.

I use gnome on my laptop and I can adjust the time as you say, but in fact, I have installed the package ntp and after that no need to use date or other program to get accurate time.

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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:10:50 -0800
From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Programmers Text Editor 

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On Nov 5, 2007, at 2:42 PM, BartlebyScrivener wrote:

> On Nov 5, 6:30 am, Nate Bargmann <n...@networksplus.net> wrote:

>
>> I've begun to see the need for an editor that works
>> with them.  So, I have been inspired by this thread to investigate
>> Emacs again.
>

> I would not dismiss Vim out of hand.
>

> http://www.debian-administration.org/polls/89
>

> I have to work on both Windows and Debian, and Vim works in both
> places. Getting Emacs to run on Windows is a pain in the neck.

I think it comes down to personal taste. I just can't get the hang of vi. I use it when I have to, but after years of using it off and on I still do things like accidentally insert 127 copies of the letter 'a' into my file. Using vi requires you to keep track of the editor's state in your head -- you have to remember whether it's in input mode or command mode. I've never been able to do that reliably.

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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:19:06 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: salome in debian etch 

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On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 11:22:30PM +0100, Mauro Darida wrote:
> I am trying to install salome in debian etch. At the salome website I have
> downloaded the sarge tarball (there is none for etch).

Installing Sarge apps like salome will turn Etch into a delicatessen.

Sorry.

What is salome?

If it comes as pre-compiled binaries, keep in mind it will be built with a different version of libc6 than Etch uses.

Doug.

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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:23:18 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 03:10:50PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:  

> I think it comes down to personal taste. I just can't get the hang
> of vi. I use it when I have to, but after years of using it off and
> on I still do things like accidentally insert 127 copies of the
> letter 'a' into my file. Using vi requires you to keep track of the
> editor's state in your head -- you have to remember whether it's in
> input mode or command mode. I've never been able to do that reliably.

My vim (not vi) tells me at the bottom of the screen. Right now it says:

  • INSERT -- 13,66 All

What about nano? mcedit?

Doug.

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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:39:54 -0800
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> > letter 'a' into my file. Using vi requires you to keep track of the =
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> > editor's state in your head -- you have to remember whether it's in =20
> > input mode or command mode. I've never been able to do that reliably.

>=20

> My vim (not vi) tells me at the bottom of the screen. Right now it
> says:
>=20

> -- INSERT --                                                 13,66   All

>=20

> What about nano? mcedit?

>=20

I'm that rare bird that uses *both* with an abysmal lack of efficiency in both. I use vim for editing conf files and general hacking around the system. I use emacs when I'm actually coding (usually scheme or C) and find myself able to switch easily between them. I know though that I am missing large parts of the functionality of both programs.=20

In a fit of perversion some while back I changed the default editor for mutt to emacs with a custom config file... mwuhahahahaha!!!

and more and more I just use cat > some_file for one off stuff. followed by sed -i -e 's/typo/correction/'. now that's absurdity for ya!

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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:38:18 -0800
From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Programmers Text Editor 

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On Nov 5, 2007, at 3:23 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> My vim (not vi) tells me at the bottom of the screen. Right now it
> says:

>

> -- INSERT --
> 13,66 All

Yeah, that's the case on maybe a third of the systems I use. (For me vi is usually an 'editor of last resort,' used on things like rescue CDs that don't have any other visual editor. So the version I'm using is often a very stripped-down one.)

Do you need help?X

>
> What about nano? mcedit?

I really wouldn't recommend nano for programming. It lacks some pretty basic functionality, like the ability to quickly skip to the top or bottom of a file.

I've become an Emacs user, but before that I used "joe" pretty religiously. I blame this largely on having been brought up on WordStar. ;)

Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:49:56 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve Lamb" <grey@dmiyu.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Programmers Text Editor 

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David Brodbeck wrote:
> Using vi requires you to keep track of the
> editor's state in your head -- you have to remember whether it's in
> input mode or command mode. I've never been able to do that reliably.

    Neither have I. However I did learn early on in my vim life that ESC=  in
insert mode puts you in command mode. ESC in command mode puts you in command mode. So if you're not sure, just slap escape then you are sure. :))

--=20
Steve Lamb

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