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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2751

Today's Topics: 

  Re: [Fwd: Re: Installing Packages Fr  [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  .deb ?                                [ jekillen  ]
  Re: How to check tftp server is runn  [ hce  ]
  Re: Programmers Text Editor           [ Frank McCormick  ]
  Re: how can I aptitude install witho  [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  Re: .deb ?                            [ "Douglas A. Tutty" 

Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:05:57 -0500


From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Installing Packages From Source]

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On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 05:44:59PM -0800, Jeff Grossman wrote:
 >

> >  
> That was my opinion and why I asked the original question.  So, I should 
> let aptitude know that I installed those packages myself?  Even though 
> they won't be in the same directories that aptitude thinks they should 
> be in?

You want your cake and eat it too.  Either compile your sources into a
deb and install it with apt, or install a dummy package that "supplies"
e.g apache or whatever.



Doug.


Do you need help?X

Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:15:38 +0800


From: "hhding.gnu" <hhding.gnu@gmail.com>
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: how can I aptitude install without interaction

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When I upgrade libpam0g=A3=ACa dialog is show by aptitude to make me
select services to restart. I want upgrade it without interaction. I
have tried aptitude -q=3D100 -y -f install libpam0g=A3=ACbut it does not =
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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:31:17 -0800


From: jekillen <jekillen@prodigy.net>


To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: .deb ?

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Hello;


I just downloaded the file


debian-reference-en_1.11_all.deb


from the Debian site. What is this;


a zipped archive file? It is supposed


to be english html version of Debian reference.
If it is a tarball, should I rename it so tar can
extract it?


Thanks in advance;


Jeff K


Do you need more help?X

Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:32:47 +1100


From: hce <webmail.hce@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: How to check tftp server is running?

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On 11/6/07, Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 11:35:17AM +1100, hce wrote:
> > On 11/6/07, Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> ...
> > > please provide
> > >
> > > dpkg -l tftpd
> >
> > ~$ dpkg -l tftpd
> > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> > | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> > |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> > ||/ Name           Version        Description
> > +++-==============-==============-============================================
> > rc  tftpd          0.17-15        Trivial file transfer protocol server
> >
> > That command seems work.
> >
>


> rc means that it is not installed.
>

> > > and
> > >
> > > apt-cache policy tftpd
> >
> > ~$ apt-cache policy tftpd
> > tftpd:
> >   Installed: 0.17-15
> >   Candidate: 0.17-15
> >   Version table:
> >  *** 0.17-15 0
> >         500 ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/main Packages
> >         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

> >
> > That shows it was indeed installed.
>


> yeah. you've got a problem there.
>


> do


>

> apt-get update

$ sudo apt-get update

Get:1 
ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch Release.gpg [378B]
Get:2 
ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch Release [58.2kB]
Get:3 
ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex


Ign ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Get:4 ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Get:5 ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/main Sources/DiffIndex
Ign ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/main Sources/DiffIndex
Get:6 ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/contrib Sources/DiffIndex

Ign 
ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Hit 
ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/main Packages
Hit 
ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/contrib Packages

Can we help you?X

Hit 
ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/main Sources
Hit 
ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/contrib Sources


Fetched 58.6kB in 25s (2289B/s)


Reading package lists... Done


> apt-get --reinstall install tftpd

$ sudo apt-get --reinstall install tftpd
Reading package lists... Done


Building dependency tree... Done


0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 43 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/15.0kB of archives.


After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y


(Reading database ... 59650 files and directories currently installed.)

Preparing to replace tftpd 0.17-15 (using .../tftpd_0.17-15_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement tftpd ...
Setting up tftpd (0.17-15) ...


$ sudo apt-cache policy tftpd


tftpd:


  Installed: 0.17-15


  Candidate: 0.17-15


  Version table:



It was the same as the previouse one, what was the problem there?


> and provide the output from the install command.
> ...
>

> > $ ls /etc/init.d/ | grep inet
> > openbsd-inetd

> >
> > Is it normal that the Debian is running openbsd-inetd?
>


> yes.
>

> >
> > > and then /etc/init.d/<results of above> start/stop/restart as
> > > required.

> >
> > I'll run /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart when above question is confirmed.
>


> right, but that won't help with tftpd until you get it installed
> properly. see above.


>


Can't find what you're looking for?X

Thank you.



Jim



Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:49:43 -0500


From: Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Programmers Text Editor

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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:35:13 -0600


Nate Bargmann <n0nb@networksplus.net> wrote:


> BTW, I survived a few months into my first foray into MS-DOS 3.3 with
> edlin until someone mercifully gave me a disk with a better editor
> (qed?) on it.  By that metric I should be comfortable with ed, but I'm

   Q or Q-editor was my editor of choice in MS-DOS and OS/2. There is NOTHING and I
mean NOTHING like it in Linux. FTE comes closest but no cigar.




Don't know where to look next?X
> 
> I really like FTE, but it needs a lot of help to meet its potential.
> 

   Yup!



Cheers 


Frank




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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:36:37 -0800


From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: .deb ?


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Confused? Frustrated?X

On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 06:31:17PM -0800, jekillen wrote:

> Hello;
> I just downloaded the file
> debian-reference-en_1.11_all.deb
> from the Debian site. What is this;
> a zipped archive file?

no, its a .deb, or debian package file. I think it is a kind of zip
 archive, though I've never bothered to check.=20


> It is supposed
> to be english html version of Debian reference.
> If it is a tarball, should I rename it so tar can
> extract it?

don't rename it, just=20



dpkg -i debian-reference-en_1.11_all.deb



or do=20



apt-get install debian-reference-en to have apt install it for you
(you can rm the .deb).



A


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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:43:35 -0800


From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: How to check tftp server is running?
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On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 01:32:47PM +1100, hce wrote:

> On 11/6/07, Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 11:35:17AM +1100, hce wrote:
> > > On 11/6/07, Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > > > please provide
> > > >
> > > > dpkg -l tftpd
> > >
> > > ~$ dpkg -l tftpd
> > > Desired=3DUnknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> > > | Status=3DNot/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-ins=

talled

> > > |/ Err?=3D(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=3Dboth-problems (Status,Err: =

uppercase=3Dbad)

> > > ||/ Name           Version        Description
> > > +++-=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D-=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D-=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D

> > > rc  tftpd          0.17-15        Trivial file transfer protocol serv=

er

> > >
> > > That command seems work.
> > >
> >
> > rc means that it is not installed.
> >
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > apt-cache policy tftpd
> > >
> > > ~$ apt-cache policy tftpd
> > > tftpd:
> > >   Installed: 0.17-15
> > >   Candidate: 0.17-15
> > >   Version table:
> > >  *** 0.17-15 0
> > >         500 ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/main Packages
> > >         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> > >
> > > That shows it was indeed installed.
> >
> > yeah. you've got a problem there.
> >
> > do
> >
> > apt-get update


>=20

> $ sudo apt-get update


[snipped output of apt-get --reinstall... process]

>=20


> $ sudo apt-cache policy tftpd
> tftpd:
>   Installed: 0.17-15
>   Candidate: 0.17-15
>   Version table:
>  *** 0.17-15 0
>         500 ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/main Packages
>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


>=20

> It was the same as the previouse one, what was the problem there?
Do you need help?X

sorry for not being clear. the problem was that dpkg thinks you've
removed the package as evidenced by the dpkg -L failure and the status
of tftpd shown in dpkg -l (rc for removed but still configured (i
think)) while apt-cache thinks the package is installed as shown by
the previous apt-cache policy output.



By --reinstalling it, the files should be there now.=20



you can verify with=20



dpkg -l tftpd



which should now show=20



=2E..


ii tftpd blah blah blah



and=20



dpkg -L tftpd


Do you need more help?X

which should show a handful of files (its a pretty small package).=20




and now you can try restarting inet.d and see what happens.



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Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:26:59 -0000


From: brian.from.fl@gmail.com


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: List of packages on a Debian / Ubuntu system
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Can we help you?X

I'm sure I am overlooking something, but after scouring the dpkg
documentation, I cannot find the options that tell me a list of all
packages that are installed on my system and the time/date on which
they were installed and/or updated.



What I am looking for is something similar to rpm -qa, but for Debianbased
 Ubuntu systems, and also with some date information for each
package (such as an installation log).



Thanks in advance!



Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:33:41 -0500


From: kingbee <rbees@bluebottle.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: #437650 bug listed aginst libdb4.6.19-2

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Sir / Madame



I have searched google but I am finding very little info about this bug
that is reported by apt-get when I try to install this package.  I have
several packages behind libdb4.6.19-2 that I hesitate to upgrade because
of this bug.



I am running Debian Lenny on amd64x2 and I am up-to-date except for
those packages behind libdb4.6.  For example there are several kde apps
like kmail.


Can't find what you're looking for?X

I am wondering how safe it is to install it?  What side effects will it
have on my system?  Is it likely to crash my system?  This is a
production system and I have to much time invested to do a reinstall.  I
would like to install the updated version of kmail because I am unable
to add or edit any identities for a new email account.  I am hoping that
updating kmail will correct that.



I have learned that this only affects some architectures from Don
Armstrong.  But he instructed me that I could get more and better
information from you.



Any insight you could give me would be much appreciated.



Many thanks



Randy

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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:03:35 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how can I aptitude install without interaction
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On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 10:15:38AM +0800, hhding.gnu wrote:

> When I upgrade libpam0g??a dialog is show by aptitude to make me
> select services to restart. I want upgrade it without interaction. I
> have tried aptitude -q=100 -y -f install libpam0g??but it does not work.


The questions are asked by debconf.  Try:

# dpkg-reconfigure debconf 

and set priority to high.  Then only high priority questions will be
asked.  I don't know if the questions about restarting services are high
priority or not.

Your aptitude -q tells aptitude to supress progress indication but
aptitude's job is only to fetch the correct packages (managing
dependancies); it tells dpkg to actually install the package.  Dpkg then
calls debconf to configure them.

According to the debconf man page, Joey Hess wrote it.  If nobody here
can solve the problem, ask him directly.

OTOH,  upgrades generally should be done with interaction unless you're
using something like cron-apt that does updates automatically.  I don't
know how it handles debconf questions.

Doug.



Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:01:27 -0600
From: John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: .deb ?
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Andrew Sackville-West writes:

> no, its a .deb, or debian package file. I think it is a kind of zip
> archive...


It's an ar archive. man deb.
-- 
John Hasler



Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:17:09 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: .deb ?
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On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 06:31:17PM -0800, jekillen wrote:

> I just downloaded the file
> debian-reference-en_1.11_all.deb
> from the Debian site. What is this;
> a zipped archive file? It is supposed
> to be english html version of Debian reference.
> If it is a tarball, should I rename it so tar can
> extract it?


Its a debian package, a deb.  If you're on debian you install it just
like any other package.  If you're not on debian and just want it so you
can read it without installing debian, you may want to check on the
debian website under docs.  I think it is available as a plain tarball
or something that you can read on non-debian systems easier than
unpacking the deb.

The website: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference

in section 1.1.  Says that there are several formats available for
download at http://qref.sourceforge.net.

I don't see an html tarball there; the html links to index.html.

However, there are pdf, ps, and txt.

Doug.


Don't know where to look next?X

Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:49:24 -0800
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: #437650 bug listed aginst libdb4.6.19-2
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On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 10:33:41PM -0500, kingbee wrote:

> Sir / Madame

>=20

> I have searched google but I am finding very little info about this bug
> that is reported by apt-get when I try to install this package.  I have
> several packages behind libdb4.6.19-2 that I hesitate to upgrade because
> of this bug.


I assume you are running apt-listbugs and that is providing the bug
notification to you. When you are running that, you can simply type in
the bug number and it will display the bug report for you.=20

You can also go to the debian website and follow the links to bug
reporting and find the bug there. I usually just type in

bugs.debian.org/<bug-number> and it take sme right there.

>=20

> I have learned that this only affects some architectures from Don
> Armstrong.  But he instructed me that I could get more and better
> information from you.


this is a FTBFS bug on s390 architecture. Are you running s390
architecture? this package is currently not building properly on the
auto-builders for s390 architecture. If you don't fit that profile,
then this bug shouldn't affect you.=20

>=20

> Any insight you could give me would be much appreciated.


learn to read up on this stuff. Its not that hard. That's the best
insight I can give you.=20

A

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