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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2760

Today's Topics: 

  RE: Which browser is better, firefox  [ "Kenlen"  ]
  Re: mysterious loss of internet conn  [ Raj Kiran Grandhi  ]
  Pocelo je!!!                          [ "bez_cenzure bez_cenzure"  ]
  Re: Etch and Audio CDs                [ Michelle Konzack  ]
  Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?      [ "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" 

Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:52:43 +0800


From: "Kenlen" <kenlen@126.com>


To: "'Dotan Cohen'" <dotancohen@gmail.com>,


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Subject: RE: Which browser is better, firefox?
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recommend w3m... I think better than lynx. .=20



Do you need help?X

Best Regards


From: Kenlen



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Dotan Cohen


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Subject: Re: Which browser is better, firefox?



On 07/11/2007, Douglas A. Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> wrote:

> Dillo is nice but it doesn't do javascript or https.  Links2 does text =
> mode or graphical mode and does javascript and https.

That's what is nice about it (the non-js, not the non-https).


> Unless I need graphics or javascript, for textmode I use Lynx.
>

I use lynx a lot. It's fast, and the clean UI is very refreshing. No =
flash!


(firefox has flashblock, too)



Dotan Cohen


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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:45:07 +0530


From: Raj Kiran Grandhi <grajkiran@gmail.com>
To: Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: mysterious loss of internet connection

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Steve Kleene wrote:

> My Etch machine at home is connected to a DSL service via a Netgear hub
> (router) at home.  Sometime in the last two days, the machine lost its
> network connection to the outside world.  It seems to be a software problem.
> It had been fine since I built it in January.
> 
> Here's what I know:
> 
> 1. If I boot from the XP partition, I have full internet service anywhere I
>    try.  So the hardware seems OK.  There is only one NIC.
> 2. Running Etch, I can ping the router (192.168.0.1) and check its software
>    configuration in iceweasel.  The router configuration is the same as it's
>    always been.  It shows that the router has received an IP address
>    (10.something) from the ISP.
> 3. I cannot ping or otherwise reach any site past the router by name or by IP
>    address.  If I try, it times out.

What is the output of "route -n"?


there should be an entry which looks like



0.0.0.0	192.168.0.1	0.0.0.0	..... eth0


> 4. Rebooting doesn't help.
> 5. The output of "ifconfig -a" looks normal.  It shows eth0 on 192.168.0.4,
>    UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST.  I can post the whole output if necessary.
> 6. I haven't done any upgrades with apt since five days ago, which is clearly
>    before the problem started.
> 7. Nothing jumps out at me from dmesg or /var/log/messages.
> 8. I found the iceweasel cache files from my last successful browsing.  Then
>    I used find to list every file on the system that had been modified since
>    then.  Again, I didn't recognize anything scary.
> 
> I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to continue chasing this down.  It may
> go slowly, since the problem is at home but my only connection now is at
> work.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
-- 
Raj Kiran Grandhi


Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:30:22 -0800
From: "David Fox" <dfox94085@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: salome in debian etch
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On Nov 5, 2007 3:19 PM, Douglas A. Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> wrote:

> What is salome?


Daughter of Herodias, Princess of Judea.

Ooh can I have herod?

:)

sorry


Can we help you?X

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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:16:11 -0800
From: Raquel <raquel@thericehouse.net>
To: "Adrian Levi" <adrian.levi@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Apache2 Dying
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:04:26 +1000
"Adrian Levi" <adrian.levi@gmail.com> wrote:


> On 07/11/2007, Raquel <raquel@thericehouse.net> wrote:
> > I give up.  I've spent all day, and part of yesterday, googling
> > and haven't been able to fix a thing.
> 
> Are you able to run memtest86+ on the box, every time I have had
> weird problems with daemons dying it has been due to flaky ram.
> 
> Might be worth ruling out.
> 
> Adrian
> 


Do I just install that from the repository and run it in a tty?

-- 
Raquel
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In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a question
mark on the things you have long taken for granted.
  --Bertrand Russell



Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:47:42 +0100
From: Michelle Konzack <linux4michelle@freenet.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Etch and Audio CDs
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Am 2007-10-29 16:17:22, schrieb Douglas A. Tutty:

> On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 11:48:07PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > cdda2wav
> > 
> > ...and leave it running up to the time when it exited
> > normaly after writing 1000000 errors on my console.
> 
> How long does this take?


between 5 and 15 minutes...


> Patience is a virtue with which you are well endowed.


:-)

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
    Michelle Konzack
    Tamay Dogan Network


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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:24:58 +0100
From: Christian Jaeger <christian@jaeger.mine.nu>
To: Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: mysterious loss of internet connection
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Steve Kleene wrote:

> I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to continue chasing this down.  It may
> go slowly, since the problem is at home but my only connection now is at
> work.


- I'd check the output of "route -n": is "0.0.0.0" going to the router's ip?
- try "tcpdump -i eth0 -p -n" during pinging of outside adresses, that 
may give a clue (are the addresses correct, are packages returned, ..?)
- if you can attach to the DSL directly, bypassing the Netgear hub, try 
this (assuming the DLS comes with an ethernet connector or so and you've 
got a dhcp client installed)? (Maybe nowadays some devices are doing 
remote firmware upgrades and that's the problem?)

Christian.



Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:07:44 +0100 (CET)
From: Sergio Perticone <g4ll0ws@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:00:18 +0100, Steve Kleene wrote:


> My Etch machine at home is connected to a DSL service via a Netgear hub
> (router) at home.  Sometime in the last two days, the machine lost its
> network connection to the outside world.  It seems to be a software
> problem. It had been fine since I built it in January.
>=20
> Here's what I know:
>=20
> -- snip --
>=20
> I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to continue chasing this down.  I=

t

> may go slowly, since the problem is at home but my only connection now
> is at work.
>=20
> Thanks.


Is /etc/resolv.conf okay? You could try to add to it:

nameserver 192.168.0.1



Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:11:32 +0000
From: Pigeon <pigeon@pigeonsnest.co.uk>
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with PERC 5/i RAID controller
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On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 11:31:26AM +0100, Samuel Krieg wrote:

> Maarten Vink a ?crit :
> >=20
> > Apart from that omreport will also give you information on fan speeds,
> > temperature, installed hardware, etc. It also installs an SNMP agent
> > that allows you to monitor RAID status, fan speeds, temperature, etc via
> > SNMP. The SNMP agent is disabled by default, but is easy to setup. We
> > use this both for monitoring and to graph fan speeds and temperature
> > with cacit.
> >=20
> > For more useful info on using Debian on Dell hardware see
> > http://linux.dell.com/debian_9g.shtml
> >=20
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> These packages look very intersting but I'm still using Sarge (kmuto.jp k=

ernel) on my Poweredge boxes.

>=20
> Do you know if this repository will work on Sarge?


It doesn't work with 2.4 kernels :-(

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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 16:59:53 +0200
From: "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <tshepang@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
<andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:

> emacs (comes with a free operating system)


Me don't understand.


> killer app:
> screen -x
>
> killer app enabler:
> ssh


Interesting categories, but would it not be appropriate to put these
two in "anything deserving great honours".

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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:13:20 -0500
From: charlie derr <cderr@simons-rock.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:

> On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
> <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
>> emacs (comes with a free operating system)
> 
> Me don't understand.
> 


The long-standing joke is that emacs is a great editor, but a mediocre operating system.  Most often pitted against its arch-rival 
vi in religious wars, emacs is (in that context) somewhat "bloated" according to its detractors.  The fact that one can do email, 
webbrowsing, and work in a command-line environment simultaneously (all of that and much more without ever leaving emacs) is what 
has given rise to this mythos.

Personally I feel that any editor that can't do M-x psychoanalyze-pinhead is woefully incomplete, but that's just me (and I hate 
getting stuck on a system where all that's available is vi), and this probably isn't the place or time to re-ignite that never 
ending religious war...

	be well,
		~c


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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:14:03 +0200
From: "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <tshepang@gmail.com>
To: Charlie <ariestao@clearmail.com.au>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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On Nov 6, 2007 11:18 PM, Charlie <ariestao@clearmail.com.au> wrote:

> >--} mathematics:


How does this work? Is it a mistake?


>  * Lyx
> >--}
> >--} misc utilities:
>  * Dia, VYM, K9copy, CDcat, Gkrellm, Kerry Beagle, Quanta, Unclutter, probably


probably? Where does one get that?


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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:23:11 +0200
From: "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <tshepang@gmail.com>
To: "Keith O'Brien" <keith.obrien@rga.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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On Nov 6, 2007 11:27 PM, Keith O'Brien <keith.obrien@rga.com> wrote:

> >--} word-processor:
>  * Vim/OOo


Do you regard Vim a word processor, or is there something more?


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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:06:09 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: salome in debian etch
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On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 06:30:22AM -0800, David Fox wrote:

> On Nov 5, 2007 3:19 PM, Douglas A. Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> wrote:
> > What is salome?
> 
> Daughter of Herodias, Princess of Judea.
> 
> Ooh can I have herod?
> 
> :)
> 
> sorry
> 


I thought she was daughter of Balone.

Doug.



Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:00:21 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 09:52:43PM +0800, Kenlen wrote:

> recommend w3m... I think better than lynx. . 
> 


I tried w3m but I couldn't get it to work.  IIRC its just that its a
different key commands so its a new learning curve.  Since I didn't see
what it would do better I didn't bother trying to learn it and
uninstalled w3m instead.

Doug.



Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:04:53 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: mysterious loss of internet connection
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On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:49:10AM -0500, Steve Kleene wrote:

> My Etch machine at home is connected to a DSL service via a Netgear hub
> (router) at home.  Sometime in the last two days, the machine lost its
> network connection to the outside world.  It seems to be a software problem.
> It had been fine since I built it in January.
> 
> Here's what I know:
> 
> 1. If I boot from the XP partition, I have full internet service anywhere I
>    try.  So the hardware seems OK.  There is only one NIC.
> 2. Running Etch, I can ping the router (192.168.0.1) and check its software
>    configuration in iceweasel.  The router configuration is the same as it's
>    always been.  It shows that the router has received an IP address
>    (10.something) from the ISP.
> 3. I cannot ping or otherwise reach any site past the router by name or by IP
>    address.  If I try, it times out.


Are you pinging by IP or DNS name?  Try by IP to remove the possibility
of a DNS problem.  From a box that does work, ping debian.org and get
the IP.  Then from the problem box, ping that IP and see if it goes
through.  If it does, then its a DNS problem.

Doug.



Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:35:04 +0200
From: "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <tshepang@gmail.com>
To: "Kamaraju S Kusumanchi" <kamaraju@bluebottle.com>
Cc: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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On Nov 7, 2007 4:32 AM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> wrote:

> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
>
> It is not clear as to whether we should reply to you personally or post it
> on the d-u list. So I will just post it to the list...


The list is better actually.


> > mathematics:
>
> Can't understand what you mean by this...


Anything working with mathematics, like calculators and so on, same as
you've listed below...


> maxima, texmacs, gnuplot, octave (many programs are coming to my mind)...


Is this your selection?

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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 07:54:57 -0800
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 04:59:53PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:

> On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
> <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> > emacs (comes with a free operating system)
>=20
> Me don't understand.


charlie already answered this better than I could.


>=20
> > killer app:
> > screen -x
> >
> > killer app enabler:
> > ssh
>=20
> Interesting categories, but would it not be appropriate to put these
> two in "anything deserving great honours".


okay fine, put it under there, but I'm disappointed that you won't
make extra categories just for me!! ;-)

A

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