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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2762

Today's Topics: 

  Deletion of files from usb-key        [ Haines Brown  ]
  Re: shutdown problem : acpi_power_of  [ Giorgos Pallas  ]
  Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?      [ "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe"  ]
  Re: Debian Lenny freezes in X         [ "Patrick Wiseman"  ]
  Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?      [ joseph lockhart  ]
  Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?      [ John Masters  ]
  Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?      [ David Brodbeck 

Date:  07 Nov 2007 13:42:57 -0500


From: Haines Brown <brownh@hartford-hwp.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject:  Deletion of files from usb-key
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I have a SamDisk USB-key filled with photos (.png) which I used for a 
slide show. I now would like to delete them, but whenever the device
is rebooted, the files reappear.


	$ ls -la /media/usb-key
	rwxr-xr-x  file.png /brownh/brownh
	...


Although the files are readable, I find that chown can't change them:  


	# chown brownh:brownh <filename>
	chown: cannot access '': No such file or directory 
	failed to change ownership of `filename*' to brownh:brownh	

Do you need help?X

I also find that I can't change permissions. At present are:
        


        xwxr-xr-x  brownh/brownh



If I try to remove the files:


	# rm -f /media/usb-key/*.*

The files disappear. The ls command shows nothing.



However, if I unmount and remount, the files are back (and shown in
green in xterm, which is not normal).



Also, if I chanmge filenames and extensions for the files, when I
reboot, the original name and extension reappears.



In desperation I try:


	$ shred -fuv /media/usb-key *.*
	shred: /media/usb-key/: pass 1/25 (random)...
	shred: /media/usb-key/ : fdatasync failed: 

Can we help you?X

		Input/output error
	shred: /media/usb-key/: pass 2/25 (888888)...
	shred: /media/usb-key/: fdatasync failed: 
		Input/output error
	...

Do you need more help?X

and also tried: 


	# mformat -v /dev/sdd1

It failed to run, perhaps because the usb-key has no unix low-level 
format. And I also tried:
        


        # fdisk /dev/sdd1 



I print the partition table:


	Disk /dev/sdd1: 512 MB, 512443392 bytes
	16 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1008 cylinders
	Units = cylinders of 992 * 512 = 507904 bytes

	     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System


This suggests there is no partition at present. So I add a partition
(primary, number 1, cylinders 1-1088. Now I print this and have:


	Disk /dev/sdd1: 512 MB, 512443392 bytes
	16 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1008 cylinders
	Units = cylinders of 992 * 512 = 507904 bytes

	     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
	/dev/sdd1p1               1        1008      499937   83  Linux


And I change the type to 4 and print again:


	Disk /dev/sdd1: 512 MB, 512443392 bytes
	16 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1008 cylinders
	Units = cylinders of 992 * 512 = 507904 bytes

        Device Boot   Start     End   Blocks   Id  System
	/dev/sdd1p1       1    1008   499937    4  FAT16 <32M


And write and quit (w command):


Can't find what you're looking for?X

        The partition table has been altered!



        Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.


	WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22:  
		Invalid argument.
	The kernel still uses the old table.
	The new table will be used at the next reboot.

	WARNING: If you have created or modified any DOS 6.x
	partitions, please see the fdisk manual page for additional
	information.
	Syncing disks.


Well, I tried: 


        # sfdisk /dev/sdd1
        Checking that no-one is using this disk right now ...
        BLKRRPART: Invalid argument
        OK
        Warning: start=62 - this looks like a partition rather than
        the entire disk. Using fdisk on it is probably meaningless.
        [Use the --force option if you really want this]


When I use sfdisk with --force option, 


        ...
        Disk /dev/sdd1: 1008 cylinders, 16 heads, 62 sectors/track
        Old situation:
        Units = cylinders of 507904 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes,
        counting from 0 

           Device Boot Start     End   #cyls    #blocks   Id  System

Don't know where to look next?X

        /dev/sdd1p1          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
        /dev/sdd1p2          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
        /dev/sdd1p3          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
        /dev/sdd1p4          0       -       0          0    0  Empty

        /dev/sdd1p1 :


Next I try:


	# mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdd1 


        mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)



But my files still there. Fsck didn't help.



My guess is that I need a low level format, but I have no idea how to
do that for a usb-key. Is it usually done with a proprietary low-level
format utility?

 
 

Confused? Frustrated?X

       Haines Brown, KB1GRM

         
        



Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:51:45 -0600


From: cothrige <cothrige@bellsouth.net>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Which browser is better, firefox?
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"Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> writes:


> On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 09:52:43PM +0800, Kenlen wrote:
>> recommend w3m... I think better than lynx. . 
>> 
>
> I tried w3m but I couldn't get it to work.  IIRC its just that its a
> different key commands so its a new learning curve.  Since I didn't see
> what it would do better I didn't bother trying to learn it and
> uninstalled w3m instead.


I love text browsers, and generally prefer them if something else isn't
absolutely required.  Having tried all I can I have consistently found
elinks to be the best performer of the lot.  It has the most flexible
configurations, with all the best features of the others combined into
one (with the exception of javascript and https I think).  It has
features such as tabs, a status bar (with a clock), 256 color support,
tables, and so on.  It can even set the background color to that of the
original page which can be quite cool in many instances (if you're not
reading slashdot).  If one is really doing a lot of text browsing elinks
is very much worth the look.



Patrick



Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:54:36 +0200


From: Giorgos Pallas <gpall@ccf.auth.gr>
To: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: shutdown problem : acpi_power_off freeze

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Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 12:28:09PM +0100, Bruno Costacurta wrote:
>   
>> Hello to all,
>>
>> when I shutdown my computer it doesn't turn off but freeze with the 
>> message 'acpi_power_off called'.
>> However the shutdown was working before I re-config my ALSA sounds (via 
>> alsaconf) and indeed I have a vague remember reading something in the past 
>> like acpi has / have some problems with alsa which might block a complete 
>> shutdown like in my case.
>>     
>
> In order to pinpoint the problem you could remove the alsa modules 
> first.
>
> Regards,
> Andrei
>   


Strange. I had exactly the same problem and I found out it was the intel
sound modules... So I wrote a simple /etc/init.d/ script which unloaded
them just before the shutdown.




The strange thing is that after a pretty recent kernel upgrade, I found
that that was fixed, so I deleted my  custom script. Are you using an
old kernel? (I am now using the 2.6.22-2-686).



Giorgos



Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:23:35 +0200


From: "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <tshepang@gmail.com>
To: rjerrard@math.concordia.ab.ca


Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?

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On Nov 7, 2007 8:34 PM, Robert Jerrard <rjerrard@math.concordia.ab.ca> wrote:

> On 2007-11-06, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe  wrote:
> > Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to
> > add missing categories:
> >
> > audio player:
> > *
> gnome-cd


How do I find this?


> > video player:
> > *
> xmms

Do you need more help?X


Do you need help?X

Is there a video extension or this a mistake?



> emacs + LaTeX + metapost + metagraph



interesting twist


> > presentations:
> > *
> emacs + LaTeX + metapost + metagraph + powerdot


Even more of an interesting twist. Are the results superior than those
of OOo impress? Is the workflow faster?



> Dr. Robert J. Jerrard, Professor of Mathematics,



Such credentials I can only dream of...


-- 
my place on the web:
floss-and-misc.blogspot.com


Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:37:23 +0200
From: "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <tshepang@gmail.com>
To: "Tyler Smith" <tyler.smith@mail.mcgill.ca>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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On Nov 7, 2007 7:58 PM, Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@mail.mcgill.ca> wrote:
> > tag editor:
> > *
> etags (or is there some other kind of tag?)

What's that? Me not understand.


-- 
my place on the web:
floss-and-misc.blogspot.com



Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:38:24 +0200
From: "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <tshepang@gmail.com>
To: rjerrard@math.concordia.ab.ca
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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On Nov 7, 2007 8:34 PM, Robert Jerrard <rjerrard@math.concordia.ab.ca> wrote:
> evince, xpdf

How come this is? What's the limitations of each?


-- 
my place on the web:
floss-and-misc.blogspot.com


Can we help you?X

Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:59:12 -0700
From: Robert Jerrard <rjerrard@math.concordia.ab.ca>
To: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <tshepang@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 21:23 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> On Nov 7, 2007 8:34 PM, Robert Jerrard <rjerrard@math.concordia.ab.ca> wrote:
> > On 2007-11-06, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <tshepang@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to
> > > add missing categories:
> > >
> > > audio player:
> > > *
> > gnome-cd

This a part of the gnome-media package. Not a big dealt, just a simple
player.

> How do I find this?
> 
> > > video player:
> > > *
> > xmms
> 
> Is there a video extension or this a mistake?

Yes, my mistake I was thinking of audio not video. I don't do much with
video so I suppose gxine.

> > emacs + LaTeX + metapost + metagraph
> 
> interesting twist
> 
> > > presentations:
> > > *
> > emacs + LaTeX + metapost + metagraph + powerdot
> 
> Even more of an interesting twist. Are the results superior than those
> of OOo impress? Is the workflow faster?

I like these combinations since mostly I am text processing mathematics
in latex and all the nice math can be used directly in powerdot to
create very nice math powerpoint like slides in a pdf file. A bit of a
learning curve but the results are worth it. The use of metapost and
metagraph allow plots to be put directly in the tex file for processing
through latex with and without powerdot. You can create very high
quality math and graphs with this combination.

> > Dr. Robert J. Jerrard, Professor of Mathematics,
> Such credentials I can only dream of...
It is just a lot of time and work to get them.


Bob
-- 
Dr. Robert J. Jerrard, Professor of Mathematics,
Concordia University College of Alberta,
7128 Ada Blvd., Edmonton, Alberta, T5B 4E4, Canada.
Phone: (780) 479-9291, Fax: (780) 474-1933.



Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:09:38 -0700
From: Robert Jerrard <rjerrard@math.concordia.ab.ca>
To: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <tshepang@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 21:38 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> On Nov 7, 2007 8:34 PM, Robert Jerrard <rjerrard@math.concordia.ab.ca> wrote:
> > evince, xpdf
> 
> How come this is? What's the limitations of each?

Evince is nice in that it remembers what slide you stopped at last time
but it was a bit buggy in earlier versions, seems to work nicely now.

Xpdf was the one I used when evince was buggy.

I haven't seen any real limitations for either in my limited use of
them.

Bob
-- 
Dr. Robert J. Jerrard, Professor of Mathematics,
Concordia University College of Alberta,
7128 Ada Blvd., Edmonton, Alberta, T5B 4E4, Canada.
Phone: (780) 479-9291, Fax: (780) 474-1933.



Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 06:33:30 +1000
From: "Adrian Levi" <adrian.levi@gmail.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Apache2 Dying
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On 08/11/2007, Raquel <raquel@thericehouse.net> wrote:

> Thank you, everone, for your help ... so far.  I'm running
> memtest86+ on the machine right now and, so far, everything's okay.
> I'll let you know what I find.
>
> How long should I let it run?

As long as you like but IMHO 1 complete cycle at a minimum. This is
expressed as 'passes' about halfway down the screen, Up the top right
you can see how far though each test and overall you are.

Adrian

> In a way I hope that a bad chip is the problem.  This is a brand new
> Etch install on a brand new (to me) server.

Would be an easy solution...

Adrian

-- 
24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths?
<erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to
ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my
apartment it is.



Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:17:29 -0700
From: Nate Duehr <nate@natetech.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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This set of answers will probably bore everyone to death, but I really  
only use Linux for servers.  Desktops are better done by others (Apple).

On Nov 6, 2007, at 4:15 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:

> Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to
> add missing categories:
>
> audio editor:
Audacity

> audio player:
N/A

> cd-ripper:
N/A

> desktop OR window manager:
KDE (when I have to - would rather use the Mac for GUI stuff)

> DBMS:
Informix oops.. not FLOSS... MySQL then.  :-)

> development:
vim

> disc burner:
cdrecord

> e-mail client:
Apple Mail... oops... Thunderbird

> file manager:
ls

> finance:
Quicken... oops... N/A

> ftp client:
ftp

> image editor:
N/A

> image viewer:
Firefox

> instant messenger:
N/A

> mathematics:
N/A

> misc utilities:
find

> news:
N/A

> p2p:
Email with MIME attachments.  (LOL!)

> package manager:
aptitude

> pdf-reader:
N/A

> spreadsheet:
N/A

> tag editor:
vim (?)

> terminal emulator:
minicom

> text editor:
vim

> video player:
N/A

> web browser:
Firefox/Ice-whatever

> word-processor:
vim

> anything unreleased and anticipated:
don't care :-)

> anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC):
everyone that writes code for free and gives it away -- huge kudos and  
bravo!

> games:
Real-life... oops... N/A

> non-free:
Mac OSX  :-)

--
Nate Duehr
nate@natetech.com



Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:39:54 -0500
From: "Patrick Wiseman" <pwiseman@gmail.com>
To: "Debian User Lists" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Debian Lenny freezes in X
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On Nov 6, 2007 12:59 PM, I wrote:

> On a recently updated testing system, but using kernel 2.6.21 (because
> I can't get the Cisco VPN client to compile with 2.6.22), I've had
> intermittent freezes of X too.  In fact, had one moment ago!  I was
> able to Ctl-Alt-F2 to a console, where I logged in and ran top, which
> reported 1 zombie process, which, it turned out, was ld-linux.so.2.  I
> returned to the X console and used Ctrl-Backspace to end the session.
> After restarting, I have no zombie processes.
>
> So, is it a problem with ld-linux.so.2, and, if so, what's the fix?

I just read on the xfce users list that the problem is with xfwm4 and
the gtk version in testing; it's fixed, I'm told, in the xfwm4 in
unstable, which I have now installed and hope for the best!

Patrick



Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 12:51:17 -0800
From: Raquel <raquel@thericehouse.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: "Adrian Levi" <adrian.levi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Apache2 Dying
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 06:33:30 +1000
"Adrian Levi" <adrian.levi@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 08/11/2007, Raquel <raquel@thericehouse.net> wrote:
> 
> > Thank you, everone, for your help ... so far.  I'm running
> > memtest86+ on the machine right now and, so far, everything's
> > okay. I'll let you know what I find.
> >
> > How long should I let it run?
> 
> As long as you like but IMHO 1 complete cycle at a minimum. This
> is expressed as 'passes' about halfway down the screen, Up the top
> right you can see how far though each test and overall you are.
> 
> Adrian
> 
> > In a way I hope that a bad chip is the problem.  This is a brand
> > new Etch install on a brand new (to me) server.
> 
> Would be an easy solution...
> 
> Adrian
> 

It just finished the 2nd pass with no errors.  I wonder if my next
step is to force a reinstall of Apache?

-- 
Raquel
============================================================
The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the
opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.
  --Niels Bohr



Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:04:08 -0800 (PST)
From: joseph lockhart <jwl_andlovesaidno@yahoo.com>
To: Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@mail.mcgill.ca>,
	debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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> > Here's a template where you can fill in your
> favourites; feel free to
> > add missing categories:
> >
> > audio player:
> > *
> vlc
>=20
> > cd-ripper:
> > *
> (don't use much)
>=20
> > desktop OR window manager:
> > *
> KDE & fluxbox
>=20
> > development:
> > *
> bash
>=20
> >
> > disc burner:
> > *
> k3b
>=20
> >
> > e-mail client:
> > *
> yahoo=20
>=20
> >
> > file manager:
> > *
> konqueror
>=20
> > image editor:
> > *
> GIMP
>=20
> > image viewer:
> > *
> Konqueror
>=20
> > mathematics:
> > *
> gnumeric
>=20
> > misc utilities:
> > *
> ISO master
>=20
> >
> > news:
> > *
> (don't use)
>=20
> >
> > package manager:
> > *
> aptitude
>=20
> > pdf-reader:
> > *
> konqueror
>=20
> >
> > spreadsheet:
> > *
> gnumeric
>=20
> > tag editor:
> > *
> (don't use)
>=20
> >
> > terminal emulator:
> > *
> yakuake
>=20
> > text editor:
> > *
> kate
>=20
> > video player:
> > *
> vlc
>=20
> >
> > web browser:
> > *
> konqueror & lynx
>=20
> > word-processor:
> > *
> kate, kword
>=20
> > anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC):
> > *
> ISO master, DOSbox, gnash, menu
>=20
> > non-free:
> > *
> (don't use)
>=20
>=20
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:14:55 +0100
From: Thierry Chatelet <tchatelet@free.fr>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: docx files
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Hi,
I received a file.docx made with office 2007
Is there any easy way to read it?
Thanks
Thierry


Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:23:07 +0200
From: Jabka Atu <mashrom.head@gmail.com>
To: ML Debian-User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: How to set page qouta in Cups ?
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Hello,..

I tried to set page qouta in cups so a printer will only print n pages
for each user in a day.
to test this i used the Virtual Pdf printer (CUPS-PDF).

i went to the console and using lpadmin i set the printer to
job-page-limit = 1 :
#/usr/sbin/lpadmin -p cups-pdf -o job-quota-period=86400 -o
job-page-limit=1     

then i restarted cupsys
and started to print:
each user could print as many pages and print jobs (and not only 1 per
user as i wished).

Thank you in advance

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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:24:55 +0000
From: John Masters <johnmasters@oxtedonline.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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On 13:15 Tue 06 Nov     , Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to
> add missing categories:
> 
> 
<big big snip>

Sorry but here's where I unsubscribe for a couple of months while the
same stuff is rehashed as it was a few months ago. Does this totally
unscientific poll have any real use? Apart that is from reigniting the
antediluvian arguments like mutt v emacs, bash v korn etc.

There is a method to gauge the popularity of FLOSS apps built into every
Debian installation. If you haven't enabled it yet, do so and eliminate
this totally superfluous 'poll'.

-- 
Regards, John



Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:35:57 +0200
From: Jabka Atu <mashrom.head@gmail.com>
To: ML Debian-User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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Hmm ..

> Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to
> add missing categories:
>
> audio editor:
> *
>
>
> audio player:
> *
>
mplayer
> cd-ripper:
> *
>
dd
> desktop OR window manager:
> *
>
Xfce4
> DBMS:
> *
>
> development:
> *
>
Anjuta
> disc burner:
> *
>
cdrecord
> e-mail client:
> *
>
icedove
> file manager:
> *
>
konqueror
> finance:
> *
>
gnucash
> ftp client:
> *
>
gftp
> image editor:
> *
>
Gimp
> image viewer:
> *
Kuikshow
>
> instant messenger:
> *
>
Gaim / Pidgin
> mathematics:
> *
>
Hmm ..
Kalgebra + OO math
> misc utilities:
> *
>
> news:
> *
>
> p2p:
> *
>
Azureus
> package manager:
> *
>
apt-get
> pdf-reader:
> *
>
kpdf
> spreadsheet:
> *
>
impress
> tag editor:
> *
>
> terminal emulator:
> *
>
Konsole
> text editor:
> *
>
vim
> video player:
> *
>
mplayer
> web browser:
> *
>
lynx
> word-processor:
> *
>
vim
> anything unreleased and anticipated:
> *
>
Cad work :
Brclad
> anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC):
> *
>
Gcc + Vim ,
> games:
> *
>
> non-free:
> *
>
>


- --
- --
Could you at least use man ?
    Jabka Atu (aka mha13/Mashrom Head) || bsh83.blogspot.com
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:32:30 -0800
From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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>> Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to
>> add missing categories:
>>
>> audio editor:

Audacity

>> audio player:

Amarok

>
>> cd-ripper:

Konqueror

>> desktop OR window manager:

KDE

>> DBMS:

MySQL, although just because I know it best.

>> development:

Emacs

>> disc burner:

K3b

>> e-mail client:

Thunderbird

>> file manager:

Konqueror

>> finance:

GNUCash

>> ftp client:

Konqueror

>> image editor:

GIMP

>> image viewer:

Konqueror

>> instant messenger:

Kopete

>> misc utilities:

dnsmasq (does a great job integrating a DNS caching server, private  
local DNS, and DHCP server, along with some other features useful for  
NATed networks, into one easy-to-configure daemon)

>> package manager:

aptitude

>> pdf-reader:

acroread still has the best compatibility and feature set...takes a  
long time to load, though.

>> spreadsheet:

OpenOffice.org

>> terminal emulator:

Geez, I dunno.  Whatever comes up when I choose 'Terminal' from the  
KDE menu. ;)
If you mean for talking to serial devices, I usually use 'screen'.

>> text editor:

Emacs

>> video player:

Mythplayer, or if I'm not using that, mplayer

>> web browser:

Firefox, or whatever reskinning of it happens to be handy.

>> word-processor:

OpenOffice.org, although I'm slowly moving towards Emacs + LaTeX for  
anything longer than a page or so.

>> anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC):

Amarok and Konqueror have each replaced two or three other,  
individual packages for me, and they deserve kudos for integrating  
new functionality in ways that make intuitive sense.

>> non-free:

Well, the program I've been booting into Windows to run most often,  
lately, is Portal. ;)

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