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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2838

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Window Borders Disappear          [ Michael Pobega  ]
  Re: Window Borders Disappear          [ Michael Pobega  ]
  Re: problem compiling C++             [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Re: problem compiling C++             [ "Michael Marsh"  ]
  Re: Laptop Firewalling                [ Klein Moebius  ]
  Moving email files from an old Evolu  [ "I.E.Broadbent"  ]
  Re: recommended webcam?               [ Preston Boyington  ]
  3-D graphing software for Linux?      [ "Dotan Cohen"  ]
  Re: recommended webcam?               [ Preston Boyington 

Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:44:50 -0500


From: Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Window Borders Disappear

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On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 09:05:24AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote:

> On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 09:42 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote:
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> >=20
> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 09:06:59PM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 10:26 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote:
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> > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 02:42:09PM +0000, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > > > > Hi, folks
> > > > >=20
> > > > > I have lost my Desktop window borders. I am using Debian "lenny"
> > > > > updated. Problem occurred after an abortedattempt to install Comp=

iz..

> > > > > I get the following error from theSystem>preferences>windows menu=

=2E.  "

> > > > > Cannot start the preferences application for your window
> > > > > manager.Window manager "unknown" has not registered a configurati=

on

> > > > > tool..
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Any help would be great...  J ack
> > > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > Why don't you try aptitude reinstall metacity? That may work.
> > > >=20
> >=20
> > aptitude purge metacity && aptitude install metacity (If this gives you
> > dependency errors reinstall everything else as well).
> >=20
> > -
> Have'nt done this yet,but
> A little more info... what might "everything else" entail????
> I'm guessing you mean whatever dependency errors occur...=20
> Thanks, Jack


>=20



Correct. Whatever dependency errors arise (i.e. if aptitude uninstalls
GNOME or something, which it may very well do, I'm not sure) you'll need
to take note of (Perhaps copy/paste into a file?) and fix manually
afterwards.


Do you need help?X

Sometimes it takes some time to fully fix problems like this, so I'd
save aptitude purge for a last resort unless you're pretty comfortable
with what you're doing.



  •   - --=20
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restrict the use of these programs.=20

  
    •   Richard Stallman

  
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:45:45 -0500


From: Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Window Borders Disappear

Message-ID: <20071121164545.GC3424@digital-haze.net>

Do you need more help?X

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On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 09:45:33AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote:

> On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 09:42 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote:
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> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 09:06:59PM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 10:26 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote:
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> > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 02:42:09PM +0000, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > > > > Hi, folks
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have lost my Desktop window borders. I am using Debian "lenny"
> > > > > updated. Problem occurred after an abortedattempt to install Compiz..
> > > > > I get the following error from theSystem>preferences>windows menu..  "
> > > > > Cannot start the preferences application for your window
> > > > > manager.Window manager "unknown" has not registered a configuration
> > > > > tool..
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any help would be great...  J ack
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Why don't you try aptitude reinstall metacity? That may work.
> > > > 
> > 
> > aptitude purge metacity && aptitude install metacity (If this gives you
> > dependency errors reinstall everything else as well).
> > 

Then ignore my last e-mail. I'm not sure what to do from this point,
I'll have to hand this one over to someone more experience, I'm sorry!



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    •   Richard Stallman
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Can we help you?X

Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:31:55 -0600


From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: problem compiling C++

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On 11/21/07 09:44, Lowell Thomas wrote:

> Hi All,
>=20


> I just recently installed Debian 4.0r1. It is my first experience with
> Debian or GNU/Linux. I=E2=80=99ve been building and running C programs =

just fine

> with gcc. However, I=E2=80=99m unable to compile C++ programs. The comm=

and g++

> returns =E2=80=9Cprogram not found=E2=80=9D and
> gcc main.cpp
> returns the error
> gcc: error trying to exec =E2=80=98cclplus=E2=80=99: execvp: No such fi=

le or directory


>=20

> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Dumb question: are you sure that g++ is installed?



(Debian is highly granular, so just installing gcc won't get you
everything you might want.)



  •   --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA




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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:33:37 -0500


From: "Michael Marsh" <michael.a.marsh@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: problem compiling C++

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Can't find what you're looking for?X

On Nov 21, 2007 10:44 AM, Lowell Thomas <lowell@coasttocoastresearch.com> wrote:

> I just recently installed Debian 4.0r1. It is my first experience with
> Debian or GNU/Linux. I've been building and running C programs just fine
> with gcc. However, I'm unable to compile C++ programs. The command g++
> returns "program not found" and
> gcc main.cpp
> returns the error
> gcc: error trying to exec 'cclplus': execvp: No such file or directory

>

> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

The various gcc compilers are packaged separately.  You probably want
to install the package "g++".


-- 
Michael A. Marsh
http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarshhttp://mamarsh.blogspot.comhttp://36pints.blogspot.com

Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:09:31 +0000
From: Chris Boyd <chris.boyd@usit.ie>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: ldap and samba with debian problem
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I'm using openldap2.3-2.3.30 with samba-3.0.24-6 and 
phpldapadmin-0.9.8.3-8 on Debian Etch. Actually it's running on a 
virtual machine using VMware. I had everything setup and running 
smoothly. I was testing a script to create users home/data/profiles and 
set ownership/permissions. Somehow the script changed the ownership of / 
(and subdirs) to one of the users (but not perms as far as I could 
tell). I set it back to owner root. I then set the ownership back on 
everything I know of. Now slapd will not start unless I take out 
shadowLastChange out of the following acl:

access to attrs=userPassword,shadowLastChange
      by dn="cn=admin,dc=mecompany,dc=ie" write
      by anonymous auth
      by self write
      by * none

In pdbedit all users come up with:

pdb_get_group_sid: Failed to find Unix account for admin
Primary Group SID:    (NULL SID)

And when I try to access phpldapadmin:


  Error

Fatal error: Cannot read your configuration file 
"/usr/share/phpldapadmin/config/config.php", its permissions are too 
strict.

Is there some ownership that's possibly still wrong or did it do 
something to the database? Scratching my head for a few days now. TIA
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:40:41 +0700
From: Klein Moebius <klein.moebius@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Laptop Firewalling
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* Patter <steve@patter.mine.nu> [2007-11-21 16:29:11 +0000]:


> unless you run services on your laptop.

>=20

I do.  Which moves me to monitor first, then allow services while taking
appropriate precautions with custom rules in new environments...

Regards,
Klein.

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:29:11 +0000
From: Patter <steve@patter.mine.nu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Laptop Firewalling
Message-ID: <nv2e15-1gt.ln1@moriarty.lan>

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:40:21 +0100, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> You could create a set of config files for each setup and write a script
> that copies the correct set to /etc/shorewall then restarts shorewall.
> Have the script start when an interface goes up.


Though a decent connection-tracking 'allow anything outbound, nothing
new inbound' policy without any interface or IP matching should be a
good starting point, unless you run services on your laptop.

-- 
Stephen Patterson :: steve(at)patter.mine.nu :: http://patter.mine.nu/
GPG: B416F0DE :: Jabber: patter@jabber.earth.li 
"Don't be silly, Minnie. Who'd be walking round these cliffs with a gas oven?"



Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:12:34 +0000
From: "I.E.Broadbent" <ieb@klokwurx.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Moving email files from an old Evolution to a new Version
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I've replaced my old clunker P3 machine running Mandrake10 with a new
shiny box with AMD64 dualcore with Debian.
My mail records on the old machine run to almost half a gig and span
more than 40 local directories under the inbox and go back quite a few
years.
I presumed that the 'import' routine on Evolution would be able to
import the files for storage and use on the new box.... but it appears
that Evolution will only import from 'other' programmes and not from
it's own older versions.

I have read some similar responses which say that you need to manually
recreate every directory and hand copy the emails.   Surely not?

Anyone know how to solve this problem?

Many thanks, Ian  



Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:38:19 -0500
From: steve <sfreilly@roadrunner.com>
To: debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: recommended webcam?
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Bruno Boettcher wrote:

> hello
> 
> i want to play around with ip-telephony and thus need a webcam, i have
> an old thing that does 340x280 which is enough to see thatthere is
> indeed somebody but the quality is simply awful, so what webcam are
> there that are easy to get working under debian with more appropriate
> resolution and framerate?
> 
> when i searched with google for something usable, i was drowned in a sea
> of mostly negative responses....
> 
http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/

drivers for logitech, well known, well supported, and widely available
hardware.




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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:51:06 -0600
From: Preston Boyington <preston.lists@gmail.com>
To: debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: recommended webcam?
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steve wrote:

> Bruno Boettcher wrote:

<snipped>
>> i want to play around with ip-telephony and thus need a webcam...
>> so what webcam are there that are easy to get working under debian?

> 
> http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/
> 
> drivers for logitech, well known, well supported, and widely available
> hardware.


also take a look at:
http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/

and even:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams

i have found both sites helpful.


-- 
Arrant Drivel - really, it's just trash...
http://www.arrantdrivel.com/
Don't know where to look next?X

Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:54:57 -0600
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Moving email files from an old Evolution to a new Version
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On 11/21/07 11:12, I.E.Broadbent wrote:

> I've replaced my old clunker P3 machine running Mandrake10 with a new
> shiny box with AMD64 dualcore with Debian.
> My mail records on the old machine run to almost half a gig and span


*Only* 512MB?


> more than 40 local directories under the inbox and go back quite a few
> years.
> I presumed that the 'import' routine on Evolution would be able to
> import the files for storage and use on the new box.... but it appears
> that Evolution will only import from 'other' programmes and not from
> it's own older versions.
> 
> I have read some similar responses which say that you need to manually
> recreate every directory and hand copy the emails.   Surely not?
> 
> Anyone know how to solve this problem?


What happens if you cp (or tar/detar) the whole mail tree directly
to the new location?  (I'd then rm the co-located index files.  Evo
should then recreate them.)

The geeky thing to do would be to turn your P3 into a satellite
relay mail server by converting the mbox files to Maildir, then
install/config courier-imap, postfix, fetchmail, spamassassin and
maildrop.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

%SYSTEM-F-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:14:25 +0200
From: "Dotan Cohen" <dotancohen@gmail.com>
To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: 3-D graphing software for Linux?
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:32:30 +0200
From: Jabka Atu <mashrom.head@gmail.com>
To: ML Debian-User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: (Help With bug) could anyone try to confirm bug in em8300 (m-a)
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Good evening.

A user with etch was unable to compile et8300 using m-a
http://www.whatsup.co.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=43196
(Hebrew)

I tested it on lenny but couln'd confirm that so i don't wish to post
a bug on it.
coulnd any one try to confirm it ?

Thank you in advance.

- --
- --
Could you at least use man ?
    Jabka Atu (aka mha13/Mashrom Head) || bsh83.blogspot.com
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:29:04 -0600
From: Preston Boyington <preston.lists@gmail.com>
To: debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: recommended webcam?
Message-ID: <474478F0.2010507@gmail.com>
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Bruno Boettcher wrote:


> so what webcam are
> there that are easy to get working under debian with more appropriate
> resolution and framerate?


as a quick update i have just got a Logitech QuickCam Pro for Notebooks
working with ekiga and luvcview.  the beta of Skype is giving me some
video errors, but the built in microphone is working great.  i am hoping
to get it fully working with Skype as i have time this weekend.

i also have a Logitech QuickCam Ultra Vision, but in quick tests it was
detected and only the microphone was usable.  again that will be a
project for a different day as i really want this camera to work.

oh, am running Debian laptop with 2.6.22 kernel and V4L2 drivers thus far.

-- 
Arrant Drivel - really, it's just trash...
http://www.arrantdrivel.com/

Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:42:09 -0500
From: Paul Cartwright <ale@pcartwright.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: CTRL-ALT-F8 doesn't work
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On Wed November 21 2007, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> > =A0 =A0 Option =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "XkbVariant" "us"
> > EndSection

>=20

> Try to change your xorg.conf to:

>

> Option =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "XkbVariant" ""


BINGO ! that did it!

>

> and restart X. (You can also comment out that line completely.)

>

> You can also try to run

>

> xmodmap -e "keycode 67 =3D F1 XF86_Switch_VT_1"

>

> while X is running and check if this restores CTRL-ALT-F1 switching to
> tty1.


that didn't work... but after changing that lin in xorg.conf CTRL-ALT-F1 wo=
rks=20
again, as does CTRL-ALT-F7/8..
so, even though I have a "us" keyboard, those keys don't work with it in th=
e=20
file..

=2D-=20
Paul Cartwright
Registered Linux user # 367800
Registered Ubuntu User #12459



Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:02:27 +0100
From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: CTRL-ALT-F8 doesn't work
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On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 13:42:09 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

> On Wed November 21 2007, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > =A0 =A0 Option =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "XkbVariant" "us"
> > > EndSection
> >=20
> > Try to change your xorg.conf to:
> >
> > Option =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "XkbVariant" ""

>=20

> BINGO ! that did it!


Initially I did not think too much about xorg.conf since your problem
was caused by an upgrade without configuration change (if I understood
you correctly). I guess the new version of Xorg is somehow less tolerant
towards ill-defined configuration settings.

I meanwhile looked up the allowed XkbVariants for the "us" XkbLayout:

$ awk '/xkb_symbols/{print $2}' /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us
"basic"
"euro"
"intl"
"alt-intl"
"dvorak"
"dvorak-l"
"dvorak-r"
"dvorak-classic"
"rus"
"mac"
"colemak"
"altgr-intl"
"classmate"
"classmate-intl"
"classmate-alt-intl"
"classmate-altgr-intl"

Leaving it empty should be equivalent to choosing the "basic" variant.

--=20
Regards,            | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
          Florian   |



Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:19:04 -0500
From: "Jiann-Ming Su" <sujiannming@gmail.com>
To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: 3-D graphing software for Linux?
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Not 3D, but a good plotting program:  http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/

-- 
Jiann-Ming Su
"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
 If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman
"The system's broke, Hank.  The election baby has peed in
the bath water.  You got to throw 'em both out."  --Dale Gribble
"Those who vote decide nothing.
Those who count the votes decide everything."  --Joseph Stalin



Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:43:20 -0500
From: Paul Cartwright <ale@pcartwright.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: CTRL-ALT-F8 doesn't work
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On Wed November 21 2007, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> Initially I did not think too much about xorg.conf since your problem
> was caused by an upgrade without configuration change (if I understood
> you correctly). I guess the new version of Xorg is somehow less tolerant
> towards ill-defined configuration settings.


well yes and no.. the upgrade caused me to redo xorg, because I have the 
NVIDIA card.. and I DID have this problem once before, but it went away. 
Obviously my fooling with the envy/nvidia settings changes xorg.conf but I 
never manually changed the keyboard settings, so it is one of those 
configuration applications that does it. The ONLY thing I change in xorg.conf 
is that one line, from nvidia to nv, after a kernel update, until I can go 
back in and redo the driver.

-- 
Paul Cartwright
Registered Linux user # 367800
Registered Ubuntu User #12459


Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:08:16 -0800
From: Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu>
To: Johannes Wiedersich <johannes@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Laptop Firewalling
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> 
> I use firestarter as well on my etch laptop. One problem I have is that
> I have to manually reconfigure firestarter to switch from cable (eth0)
> to wireless (eth2). How did you solve this problem?
> 
> If you just configure it once, say for eth0, it will simply ignore all
> the traffic on eth2 (IIUC), if you happen to later use eth2 without
> reconfiguration of firestarter. I guess one could write a script to
> automate this, but you should be aware of the problem.
> 
> Johannes
> 


Really? I actually never thought of that. Because right now I am only using a wireless connection. Now that you have mentioned it, I have never ever used a wired connection with this laptop. I was unaware of this issue. I guess I will have to look at it in more detail.

Thanks for mentioning this.


Amit

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