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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2892

Today's Topics: 

  Re: terminal-metapackage              [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  Re: How do you make your life secure  [ Andrei Popescu  ]
  Re: removing kde                      [ David  ]
  Re: Could you recommend file manager [ Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> ]   Etch-compatible "PCIe X4" network ca [ Jonathan Wilson <jw@mailsw.com> ]

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:27:28 -0800
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: terminal-metapackage
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On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 08:30:54PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote:
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> the biggest part of it is that it is a learning
> experience for me, both to see what can be done
> without the x server installed, and to work on
> programing which is certainly not a strong suit for me
> at the moment.

Do you need help?X

nothin' wrong with that ;)

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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:24:53 +0100
From: "Manon Metten" <manon.metten@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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Hi Ann Kok,

On 11/27/07, ann kok <annkok2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Yes. I have 2G physical memory
> but the kernel is showing 1G
>
> the kernel verion is 2.4.27-2-386
>

Once I had the same problem with kernel: 2.6.18-4-486 After I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.18-5-686 I could use 2Gb.

I was told that "There were no 486 machines with more than a GB of RAM, and those CPUs probably don't have the features needed by HIGHMEM". So obviously your 2.4.27-2-386 kernel has the same problem. But to be honest, I don't know if you can use a 686 kernel on a 386 machine.

Manon.

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Hi Ann Kok,

On 11/27/07, ann kok <annkok2001@yahoo.com> wrote:


Can we help you?X

Yes. I have 2G physical memory
but the kernel is showing 1G

the kernel verion is 2.4.27-2-386


Once I had the same problem with kernel: 2.6.18-4-486
        After I upgraded the kernel to 
2.6.18-5-686 I could use 2Gb.
           
I was told that "There were no 486 machines with more than a GB of RAM,
and those CPUs probably don't have the features needed by HIGHMEM".
So obviously your
2.4.27-2-386 kernel&nbsp;has&nbsp;the&nbsp;same&nbsp;problem. But to be<br>honest, I don&#39;t know if you can use a 686 kernel on a 386 machine.<br> <br>Manon.<br><br><br>

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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:57:08 -0500
From: Kamaraju Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> To: Paul Cartwright <ale@pcartwright.com> Cc: Sidarth Dasari <sidster802@gmail.com>, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting Message-Id: <200711271956.lARJuZEt021896@mi1.bluebottle.com> Content-Type: text/plain;
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On Tuesday 27 November 2007 7:40 am, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> Sidarth Dasari wrote:
> > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.knujon.com/
> >> [2] http://www.complainterator.com/
> >>
> >
> > Thanks for those links :)
>
> there is also
> http://www.spamcop.net/
>
> and thanks for the links!!

I purposefully did not mention spamcop in my email because for me spamcop did not reduce spam. If it is anything, my spam volumes increased after I started reporting to spamcop. But since there is no way to prove this, it is at best an allegation against spamcop.

While the concept behind spamcop is sound, it is not very efficient in removing spam from your Inboxes unless you use the spamcop's DNSBL to reject the spam messages. But if you do this, there will be lot of false positives and you risk not getting legitimate messages.

Moreover, according to spamcop's policies, you should not report spam from debian mailing lists (or any mailing lists you intentionally subscribed to) or spam from bugs.debian.org unless you are administrator of these lists. So it is pretty much useless in my case as almost all the spam I receive is from mailing lists. On a related note, spam mails sent to mailing lists are perfectly acceptable to knujon.

hth
raju 

-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/

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Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:05:32 +1100 From: Alex Samad <alex@samad.com.au> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: making .deb in equivs fails Message-ID: <20071127200532.GK18183@samad.com.au> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vSsTm1kUtxIHoa7M" Content-Disposition: inline --vSsTm1kUtxIHoa7M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 11:29:36PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote:
> trying to make a dummy package in equivs, followed all
> instructions and edited the resulting control file as
> root. on the equivs-build step get the following
> output
>=20
> hiram@hiram-desktop:~/terminalphile-0.1$ sudo
> equivs-build terminalphile
> 822-date: warning: This program is deprecated. Please
> use 'date -R' instead.
> dh_testdir
> dh_testroot
> dh_clean -k
> sh: cannot open terminalphile: No such file
> dh_clean: command returned error code
> make: *** [install] Error 1
> Error in the build process: exit status 2
>=20
> a second run with the --full modifier returns=20
>=20
> hiram@hiram-desktop:~/terminalphile-0.1$ sudo
> equivs-build terminalphile --full
> 822-date: warning: This program is deprecated. Please
> use 'date -R' instead.
> parsechangelog/debian: error: badly formatted heading
> line, at file debian/changelog line 1
> debuild: fatal error at line 623:
> problem executing dpkg-parsechangelog | grep:
> Error in the build process: exit status 1
>=20
> any ideas on what the problem is and how to fix?
I am not an expert on this, but have dabbled here recently. =20 seems like there is a problem in debian/changelog, there is a specific form= at=20 for them, something like custom-apt (0.2) unstable; urgency=3Dlow * Release -- Alex Samad <alex@samad.com.au> Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:42:40 +1100 I would guess the script that is making the change log for you is screwing = up=20 the date field (find the line and replace it with date -R alex
>=20
> jwlockhart
>=20
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> this user is penguin powered
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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:43:00 +0200 From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How do you make your life secure (software based)? Message-ID: <20071127204300.GB4209@think.homenet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1" Content-Disposition: inline --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 08:01:30AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> For true security you'll never use computers, never use the telephone,
> never write anything down, never use banks or other financial institution=
s,
> and always pay cash.
=2E.. and avoid using big notes and big stores and ... let's move out of=20 this so called civilisation, but then what about internet, all the nice=20 gadgets and and and. Regards, Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTIFUqJyztHCFm9kRAnFsAKCCZ+5JxhBsQvd9MoaOHxldBMLM1QCgsToG yqnxBT81UD2xULcJ0Byh00M= =jQna -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1--

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:53:23 +0100 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: nvidia card & Lenny, again Message-ID: <20071127195323.GA4367@pc0197> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 15:55:25 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Fri November 23 2007, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > We need to see the error messages for the nvidia driver. What you posted
> > above is the result of Xorg using the "nv" driver.
>
> g$ cat nvi*.log
> nvidia-installer log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log'
> creation time: Fri Nov 23 12:58:50 2007
[...]
> -> The latest NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86 (version
> 169.04)
> is already installed.
I need to see the error messages of Xorg (the "egrep ..." command) after it has been started with the nvidia driver. -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:47:32 +0200 From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: K3b did not find a suitable writer Message-ID: <20071127204732.GC4209@think.homenet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GPJrCs/72TxItFYR" Content-Disposition: inline --GPJrCs/72TxItFYR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 10:53:02AM -0600, Rob Wright wrote: =20
> Any other suggestions? Perhaps I should use a different package for burni=
ng?
>=20
> Debian Etch, kernel 2.6.22-2-amd64
Where did you get that kernel on etch? You should try a default kernel. Regards, Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --GPJrCs/72TxItFYR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTIJkqJyztHCFm9kRAsl7AJ4iRUIVNKSmYuSf5xTCy6hVBkBXjACfYdfu oHO3svt/zstEMV6iUk/gcwc= =D8kG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GPJrCs/72TxItFYR--

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:49:59 +0200 From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Crontab doesn't run Message-ID: <20071127204959.GD4209@think.homenet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mSxgbZZZvrAyzONB" Content-Disposition: inline --mSxgbZZZvrAyzONB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 08:14:36PM +0100, Jan wrote: [cron not executing user crontabs]
> Any ideas? Help will be greatly appreciated.
Did you have a look at the logs? Regards, Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --mSxgbZZZvrAyzONB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTIL3qJyztHCFm9kRAmsDAJ47iURQbABhnyQQBqWio8Yi6PMTCwCgnsSN hbSM77hAPHquVo8e0YQJiCo= =zUf2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mSxgbZZZvrAyzONB--

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:54:12 +0200 From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: terminal-metapackage Message-ID: <20071127205412.GE4209@think.homenet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VdOwlNaOFKGAtAAV" Content-Disposition: inline --VdOwlNaOFKGAtAAV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 08:15:56PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote:
> >> my other intrest would be to create a ncurses
> >based
> >> overlay for terminal that would allow multiple
> >screens
> >> without logging into more than one tty, though i
> >am
> >> not sure if one exists or not (i am also going to
> >look
> >> at twin)
> >
> >That sounds like a description of screen...
>=20
> yes, i can see that, but i was going for more of a
> tabbed version for multiple instances (perhaps
> switching bound to ctrl+alt+[1-0] to allow ten
> instances) currently trying to RTM on several things
Close enough :) The default binding is Ctrl-A 1, Ctrl-A 2, ... but can=20 be changed.=20 Regards, Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --VdOwlNaOFKGAtAAV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTIP0qJyztHCFm9kRAnVXAJ9GmCaxJXcBsDJpfEGUKNj0EVtVkQCgkCQh i6TIGZvCdJ3MbSv9wVhIaYo= =h9Da -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VdOwlNaOFKGAtAAV--

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:40:44 -0600 From: Paul Cartwright <ale@pcartwright.com> To: Sidarth Dasari <sidster802@gmail.com> CC: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com>, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting Message-ID: <474C104C.8040801@pcartwright.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sidarth Dasari wrote:
> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
>
>> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>
>>
>> [1] http://www.knujon.com/
>> [2] http://www.complainterator.com/
>>
>>
>> just my 2 cents
>> raju
>>
>>
> Thanks for those links :)
>
there is also http://www.spamcop.net/ and thanks for the links!!

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:37:46 +0000 From: Pantor <pantor@painter-decorator.eu> To: Kelly Clowers <kelly.clowers@gmail.com> CC: Debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: CD to acc Message-ID: <474C801A.6020503@painter-decorator.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After installing gstreamer plugin what to do with sound juicer perferences? There is no acc option still. Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Nov 27, 2007 5:49 AM, Pantor <pantor@painter-decorator.eu> wrote:
>> Hi lads,
>>
>> would you be able to advice what to use for converting audio CD to acc
>> files please?
>
> I would recommend sound-juicer. To use sound-juicer to make aac
> files you will need the gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad package
> from the debian-multimedia.org repo. If you don't already use
> debian-multimedia.org, the website has instructions on how to add it.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Kelly Clowers
>
>

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:01:48 +0200 From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: terminal-metapackage Message-ID: <20071127210148.GF4209@think.homenet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Y1L3PTX8QE8cb2T+" Content-Disposition: inline --Y1L3PTX8QE8cb2T+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 08:50:52PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote: =20
> i have been looking at screen, and think that it may
> work if i could find a way (an add-on script or
> something) to create a tabbable menu of the open
> screens to replace the use of next and windowlist
> (almost a persist on windowlist)
Do you mean a permanent listing of the different instances? Try this in=20 =2Escreenrc (I think I got it, from the example screenrc in the=20 /usr/share/doc/screen): # An alternative hardstatus to display a bar at the bottom listing the # windownames and highlighting the current windowname in blue. (This is only # enabled if there is no hardstatus setting for your terminal) # hardstatus lastline "%-Lw%{=3D BW}%50>%n%f* %t%{-}%+Lw%< %c:%s %D,%d.%M= =2E%Y %l" Regards, Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --Y1L3PTX8QE8cb2T+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTIW8qJyztHCFm9kRApnWAJ96bmCT1Hxe1wDoVav5HGs6EqfGdQCfSUP8 Pf9GIq2Ie+JVcXKrkZoXfdE= =pAmh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Y1L3PTX8QE8cb2T+--

Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:09:00 +0200 From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: making .deb in equivs fails Message-ID: <20071127210900.GG4209@think.homenet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Y+xroYBkGM9OatJL" Content-Disposition: inline --Y+xroYBkGM9OatJL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 08:14:25AM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote:
> okay, i got the deb to make, but i am still unable to
> use it to install the dependant/suggested programs,
> probably my fault, missed something in setting it up, suggestions?
You could start by giving more info, like how are you trying to install=20 it and what are the error messages. Regards, Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --Y+xroYBkGM9OatJL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTIdsqJyztHCFm9kRAmMYAKCnpj4CijQc5ZqoSJa6wc5duSSuPACeLXGJ q/LNCvjHD6zUMl3vpRHBlj0= =9ZOX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Y+xroYBkGM9OatJL--

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:18:55 +0200 From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Could you recommend file manager that are not based on KDE and GNOME? Message-ID: <20071127211855.GH4209@think.homenet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8sldprk+5E/pDEv" Content-Disposition: inline --a8sldprk+5E/pDEv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 05:47:19PM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote:
> Serena Cantor:
> >=20
> > To me, any interface that's different from Explorer will make me
> > uncomfortable.
>=20
> Then you won't like any file manager except Explorer.
>=20
> I wasted a lot of time searching for a drop-in replacement for Windows
> Explorer as well. Get used to it, there is no clone. And once you are
> accustomed to another file manager (or just the shell, like me), you
> won't miss it.
My first file manager was Norton Commander (the original). When the=20 first Explorer appeared (in Windows 95) I hated it so I started looking=20 for alternatives. Former Windows Commander now Total Commander was the=20 only one to work the way I wanted. On Linux I use MC and tried various=20 file managers that come close to TC. I like Krusader (though a bit slow)=20 and Xfe (has some troubles on drag-and-drop to audacious). Regards, Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --a8sldprk+5E/pDEv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTIm/qJyztHCFm9kRAq+cAJ90CQWp6rj/qdEkN4Cxv0mPQzLMagCggnp1 9SapqqoZGZRU1i/2Mmtx1Vc= =MaG4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8sldprk+5E/pDEv--

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:25:18 -0800 (PST) From: Doli <mdoliwa@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Exim4 and mail problems Message-ID: <7dda89ad-f93f-44ba-9b6a-528c7a1c63da@o42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Some time ago I moved my forum to new server, unfortunately during it one problem showed up. Emails sent from forum didnt come to recipient. I wrote simple php script to test it: test.php <?php mail("myaccount@gmail.com", "Subject", "Line 1\nLine 2\nLine3"); ?> I ran it: : php -q test.php Mail was sucesfully delivered to recipient. Now I tried to send email using forum form, but it wasn't delivered. Logs looked like below: tail -f /var/log/exim4/mainlog 2007-11-24 15:44:19 1IvwF0-0001W5-Uz <= myaccount@gmail.com U=nobody P=local S=485 id=200711241418.9b2c40134343@forum.mydomain.pl 2007-11-24 15:44:19 1IvwF0-0001W5-Uz Format error in spool file 1IvwF0-0001W5-Uz-H: size=861 For mail sent by test.php script it looked like this: 2007-11-24 15:46:16 1IvwGu-0001WV-Md <= root@mydomain.pl U=root P=local S=351 2007-11-24 15:46:17 1IvwGu-0001WV-Md => myaccount@gmail.com R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [64.233.183.114] 2007-11-24 15:46:17 1IvwGu-0001WV-Md Completed Have you ever had similiar problem? Unfortunately I'm new in admin role, that's why I'm sending it here. Will be very thanksfull for any help. I checked file format in spool and it's looking fine I think, no idea what could be wrong here (maybe some problems with nobody user? ) Below sample data file for email with the same format error. 1IwGE2-0001Jq-Qa-H nobody 65534 -1 <myaccount@gmail.com> 1195992278 0 -ident nobody -received_protocol local -body_linecount 31 -auth_id nobody -auth_sender nobody@mydomain.pl -allow_unqualified_recipient -allow_unqualified_sender -deliver_firsttime -local -sender_set_untrusted XX 1 user@poczta.onet.pl 162P Received: from nobody by c123456.serwerydedykowane.pl with local (Exim 4.50) id 1IwGE2-0001Jq-Qa for user@poczta.onet.pl; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:04:38 +0100 030T To: user@poczta.onet.pl 077 Subject: =?ISO-8859-2?q?Odpowied=BC_na_post_=27Travian_- _gra_ktos=3F=3F=27?= 048F From: "forum.mydomain.pl" <myaccount@gmail.com> 031* Return-Path: myaccount@gmail.com 031 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated 060I Message-ID: <200711251238.2e7c1f153963@forum.mydomain.pl> 018 MIME-Version: 1.0 047 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" 032 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 014 X-Priority: 3 033 X-Mailer: vBulletin Mail via PHP 038 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:04:38 +0100 cheers, Marcin

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:23:15 +0900 From: David <davidpalmer@westnet.com.au> To: Angus Auld <aonghas_auld@yahoo.com> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: removing kde Message-ID: <474C8AC3.4090409@westnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Angus Auld wrote:
> --- lostson <lostson@lostsonsvault.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello All
>> I have install debian stable with kde and am
>> wanting to remove kde completely
>> and install gnome. Is this possible ? and if so how
>> ? I have been googling
>> trying to find a way with no luck thanks.
There are three (I think) kde libs that remove all of kde when removed. I haven't used kde in some years so I can't remember which ones, but the method is very effective. Perhaps a search through the aptitude ncurses interface? Regards, David.

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:11:42 -0600 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Could you recommend file manager that are not based on KDE and GNOME? Message-ID: <474C961E.2010505@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/27/07 07:20, Serena Cantor wrote:
> Thanks for your advice!
> I have tried and been disappointed by gentoo.
> I have used File Runner before. It's not as intuitive as Explorer of
> Windows.
You might like xfe.
> To me, any interface that's different from Explorer will make me
> uncomfortable.
Not to be rude, but: if you can't adapt to anything new, go back to MS Windows. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA %SYSTEM-F-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTJYeS9HxQb37XmcRAmWVAJ4ltdfYEcpNCy4sxGyqGQ/MG2ZSugCgyZnb PUS32Sis8ucUcSePcor/h+s= =enS9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:57:19 -0600 From: Jonathan Wilson <jw@mailsw.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Etch-compatible "PCIe X4" network card? Message-Id: <200711271557.19549.jw@mailsw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Does anyone know of a "PCIe X4" (please note the "e") NIC that works out-of-the-box with Debian Etch? When I say out-of-the-box I mean no kernel recompiles, no installing of additional third-party drivers. I really only need a 10/100BT card but I'm guessing no one makes such a slow card with a PCIe interface, so a 10/100/1000 will do if that's all that's available. I'm trying to add a third NIC into a Dell PowerEdge 1850. I've already done this to some other 1850s, but they had normal PCI slots. This one has a shorter slot marked "PCIe X4" (seems to be attached to the RAID circuitry which the others didn't have) and it looks the same length as the X4 slots I see depicted on the 'web. If there's no PCI-E X4 cards that work out-of-the-box but someone/anyone has managed to get one working by installing other kernels/drivers I'd like to hear about it. Thanks, JW -- ---------------------- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2892 ************************************************** Received on Tue Nov 27 22:49:41 2007

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