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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2898

Today's Topics:

  Re: debian 3.1 - how make it to supp  [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Postfix as client - TLS problem       [ Lars  ]
  difference between libpthread.a libp  [ Kamaraju S Kusumanchi  ]

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:21:31 -0600
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: debian 3.1 - how make it to support 2G memory

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Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Top-posting.
What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

On 11/28/07 08:20, ann kok wrote:
> When I install debian 3.1, I already have this kernel

Why do you still use Sarge? That's *ancient*.

Do you need help?

Etch has been out for quite a while now.

> Can I have 2.6.x kernel?

apt-cache is your friend. It should tell you whether a 2.6 binary kernel is in Sarge.

If not, you could alwways d/l the 2.6 source from kernel.org.

But then, you will probably have to upgrade to Etch because of new features in the kernel that are incompatible with older libraries.

> how can I get it?
>
> Thank you again
>
>
> --- Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
>
> On 11/27/07 09:04, ann kok wrote:

>>>> Yes. I have 2G physical memory
>>>> but the kernel is showing 1G 
>>>>
>>>> the kernel verion is 2.4.27-2-386
>>>>
>>>> Thank you again

> Have you yet followed *everyone's* advice to roll a
> new kernel?
>
> BTW, is there a special reason you still use a 2.4
> kernel?
>

>>>> --- Jeff D  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ann kok wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to increase the memory from 1G to 2G
>>>>>>
>>>>>> debian 3.1 - how make it to support 2G memory
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have 2G of ram installed? What kernel do

> you

>>>>> have installed?
>>

-- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA

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Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:34:21 +0100
From: Lars <debs@utysket.dk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Postfix as client - TLS problem

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Hi
I'm having problem with postfix, when relaying via another postfix smtpserver (Etch) with tls/sasl. The sasl part works perfect all around. When I use the smtp-server with my laptop and Thunderbird tls works fine, I connect and is offered the certificate. But when it comes to postfix, something goes wrong...

# -- Client TLS parameters --
smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/postfix/mail.dom1.dk.cert smtpd_tls_loglevel=3
smtp_use_tls = yes
#smtp_enforce_tls = yes
smtp_tls_security_level = may

# -- Server TLS --
smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/postfix/mail.dom1.dk.cert smtpd_tls_key_file=/etc/postfix/mail.dom1.dk.key tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom

smtpd_tls_received_header = yes
smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes
smtpd_use_tls=yes
smtpd_tls_loglevel=2
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
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Client: if "smtpd_tls_security_level = may" is uncommented---- Nov 28 16:12:14 highway postfix/smtp[17546]: BFBB13EE: to=<intern@dom2.dk>, orig_to=<root@highway.dom2.dk>, relay=mail.dom1.dk[172.16.0.35]:25, delay=0.36, delays=0.01/0.01/0.33/0.01, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host mail.dom1.dk[172.16.0.35] said: 554 5.7.1 <intern@dom2.dk>: Relay access denied (in reply to RCPT TO command))
Client:if "smtpd_tls_security_level = may" is commented---- ov 28 16:14:08 highway postfix/qmgr[17561]: C2A9F401: from=<root@highway.dom2.dk>, size=295, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Nov 28 16:14:09 highway postfix/smtp[17569]: certificate verification failed for mail.dom1.dk: num=18:self signed certificate Nov 28 16:14:09 highway postfix/smtp[17569]: SSL_connect error to mail.dom1.dk: -1 Nov 28 16:14:09 highway postfix/smtp[17569]: warning: TLS library problem: 17569:error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed:s3_clnt.c:894: Nov 28 16:14:09 highway postfix/smtp[17569]: C2A9F401: to=<junk@dom2.dk>, relay=mail.dom1.dk[172.16.0.35]:25, delay=0.25, delays=0.07/0.11/0.07/0, dsn=4.7.5, status=deferred (Cannot start TLS: handshake failure)

Shouldn't the few lines and the cert from the smtp-server be enough for relaying?

/Lars

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:03:36 -0500
From: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: difference between libpthread.a libpthread_nonshared.a

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Can't find what you're looking for?

On Debian unstable, I have

$ls -al libpthread*

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1076380 2007-11-26 17:55 libpthread.a
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    3380 2007-11-26 17:55 libpthread_nonshared.a
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     216 2007-11-26 17:55 libpthread.so

I always thought .a = static version of the library, .so = shared object or dynamic library. Is that correct? If so, what is the difference between libpthread.a and libpthread_nonshared.a?

thanks
raju

-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:18:37 -0500 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: removing kde Message-ID: <20071128151837.GB6478@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:52:21AM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
> On Nov 26, 2007, at 11:23 PM, steve wrote:
> >Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> >>On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 09:01:09PM -0600, lostson wrote:
> >>> I have install debian stable with kde and am wanting to remove
> >>>kde completely
> >>>and install gnome. Is this possible ? and if so how ? I have been
> >>>googling
> >>>trying to find a way with no luck thanks.
> >>
> >>In most cases, KDE packages depend on kdebase, IIRC. So, removing
> >>kdebase should remove most KDE packages. apt-get remove kdebase.
> >
> >or, in synaptic, search for kde, it will find "kde" desktop manager,
> >click the box that has an x in it, then apply. this will remove
> >all the
> >bloat associated with kde as well. to install gnome do the same.
> >search for gnome, find gnome desktop manager, select it, apply. it
> >will
> >install everything you need.
>
> Is there an equivalent trick in aptitude?
Of course. Search for the same packages. The key to press will be different but the effect the same. Doug.

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:40:37 -0500 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: debian 3.1 - how make it to support 2G memory Message-ID: <20071128154037.GE6478@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 06:20:54AM -0800, ann kok wrote:
> When I install debian 3.1, I already have this kernel
>
> Can I have 2.6.x kernel?
>
> how can I get it?
I ran a 2.6 kernel when I ran Sarge. In fact, Etch's release notes tell you to be using a 2.6 kernel before you upgrade. Just use your usual package manager and search for the 2.6 kernel meta-package. However, note that there are huge differences in module handling between 2.4 and 2.6. A more considered opinion would require us to know why you are still using old-stable (Sarge, 3.1) instead of stable (Etch, 4.0). Doug.

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:17:38 -0500 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: PS Editors. Message-ID: <20071128151738.GA6478@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:41:38AM +0900, David wrote:
> I've just configured a small fax server soon to be connected to a new
> network, but with its own 56K modem access.
> Efax-gtk and Kfax seem to be the flavours that work, for receiving anyway.
> I'm sure for sending as well - I just have to get the format right.
>
> I installed abiword as an editor, but the expected PS facility doesn't
> seem to be there.
> Surely I'm missing something?
>
> What seems to work for everybody else?
>
> I'm currently looking at these two packages.
>
> http://packages.debian.org/etch/flpsed
>
> http://packages.debian.org/etch/shanty
>
> One for editing and the other for creating a standard coversheet format
> that would be acceptable to a fax programme.
>
> Has anybody had any experience with these?
> Thanks for any time and trouble.
Last time I set up a fax server (send and receive), I did it with mgetty+fax (and mgetty+voice so handle the distinctive ring function). I was using LPRng at the time so that the fax appeared as a standard printer. This way, any editor or whathaveyou can send a fax. IIRC, the standard fax cover page I wrote with Lout (which was my document processing system at the time) to produce the postscript file. Doug.

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:27:36 -0500 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: no x version Message-ID: <20071128152736.GC6478@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:45:21AM +0100, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 10:20:45PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > To the OP: if you want a totally simple text-only, try OpenBSD.
>
> Be warned that it will be strictly text-only: no framebuffer or svgalib
> capabilities for things like links2 zgv fbi bmv fbgs dvifb mplayer ...
>
> At least, that was the status some years ago, but I suppose that still
> today the security interests of OpenBSD are not very compatible with
> such graphic programs in console.
>
If you want graphics, install X; however, I've never used a framebuffer in either Debian or OBSD so wouldn't know how to set it up in any case. The OP said he wanted a text only so I take him at his word. Also: correction. I said that there was this problem in 4.2 that would be fixed when 4.2 came out. :) I meant that when 4.2 comes out in 5 months. Doug.

Don't know where to look next?

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:38:04 -0500 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: console login : number of access failures Message-ID: <20071128153804.GD6478@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:18:23PM +0100, daniele pendenza wrote:
> 1- by default on our Debian system after a successful login through a
> tty we are presented with the number of failures (unsuccesful logins)
> that took place before using the same login name.For a non root user
> this number is correct.
>
> But what about the root user ? That number is "correct" unless no one
> tried to do "su logins" (login using the command su).
> Do you think that su-logins must be considered as "general logins" and
> then the super user must know how many unsuccessful "su-logins" took
> place ? And what about the date and time of the last root login ? :-)
> Well, as a solution one could forbid the "su-login" but sometimes that
> command can be useful.
I have pam set up so that only members of group adm can do su. I also have my logchecker email me auth failures. Since root should never log in directly (except at single-user), root wouldn't normally see such login notices anyway.
>
> 2 - by default whenever I press CTRL-D to log out as a non root user the
> screen is cleaned ... whenever I press CTRL-D to log out as a root user
> the screen is not cleaned - and maybe a non root user can see what the
> root did before ! Why did they choose this behavior ??
>
So look in the user's .bash_logout and put the appropriate entry in root's .bash_logout. Doug.

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:49:06 -0500 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: troubleshoot lockups Message-ID: <20071128154906.GA6700@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 06:01:03AM -0800, BartlebyScrivener wrote:
> I moved from Windows XP to Debian Etch about a year ago. Rock solid
> until recently. I apply all updates via synaptic. Recently added the
> unofficial and multimedia repositories to my sources to get mplayer
> and a few others.
I have the debian-multimedia.org repository, but what is the unofficial one?
>
> I don't mean to suggest that this is causing my recent problem. It's
> just the only thing I can think of. In the last week I have had two
> complete lockups, which force me to power off.
>
> What log file do I look at on my system to get a clue for the source
> of the problem?
>
/var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages
> I ran Aptitude and discovered one conflict between Cupsys and lpr. I
> applied the recommended fixes.
>
on my Etch system, lpr only conflicts with suidmanager < 0.50. Cupsys only conflicts with cupsys-pstoraster < 2. Then again, I use lpr and I don't run CUPS. I only have libcupsys2 installed because kdelibs4c2a depends on it. What print spooler do you use and what cups packages do you have installed?
> Any other trouble shooting tips appreciated.
Read the logs to start. Doug.

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:35:21 -0500 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marc-Etienne_M.L=E9veill=E9?=" <marc.etienne.ml@gmail.com> To: "debian user" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: troubleshoot lockups Message-ID: <cd3953010711280735w4b9ff438m2cb4ad8ff390e2ce@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
> What log file do I look at on my system to get a clue for the source
> of the problem?
Log files are in /var/log. You might want to look into syslog and kern.log attach it to your post if you need further help. When your system is locked, try ctrl+alt+backspace (it force restart X) or ctrl+alt+F1 and see if your computer is responding. Good luck Marc-Etienne

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:55:14 -0500 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: "Joseph L. Casale" <jcasale@ActiveNetwerx.com>, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Install Question Message-ID: <20071128155514.GB6700@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline JLC: don't top post and keep replies to the list. I've tried to reorganize this somewhat.
> -----Original Message----- From: Douglas A. Tutty
> [mailto:dtutty@porchlight.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:03 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Install Question
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 02:33:18PM -0700, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> > If a controller manufacturer makes drivers for your OS, but the OS
> > doesn't have them natively, how does one install Debian on to this
> > controller as the boot device?
>
> Try being specific. What device, what driver.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 07:19:36AM -0700, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> Hi,

> Well it is actually a generic question. But one case in mind is the
> onboard SATA controller for an Intel SE7525RP2 motherboard. It is
> configured as a strip (Cant change this) but when I attempt to load
> Linux on it, it sees both HD's individually? Now I know there is no
> Debian specific driver but it was the most recent run-in with this
> issue I had.
That on board controller is fake raid. It never does raid. It allows you to setup raid for the windows software raid driver. Since this isn't windows, Debian (and OpenBSD, probably NetBSD and FreeBSD) will see the individual drives. On Debian if you want raid, use software raid. If you want stripes (non-redundant) you can either use raid0 or LVM. What other hardware is of concern? Doug.

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:41:29 -0500 From: "Tony Heal" <theal@pace2020.com> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Apache redirects Message-Id: <20071128154156.6D9DA19603E7@steelhead.pace2020.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010E_01C831AB.3C680DC0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C831AB.3C680DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am using apache 1.3 on a debian etch system with a 2.6 kernel. I have www root redirected from a file in conf.d. I am currently using a symlink in the redirected root to direct a php file to a different directory in /var/www/ and I would rather use httpd.conf to do this. Although I am pretty sure that I can use the file in conf.d, that file is used on other systems for a particular software program that do not have this php file. I have tried using an Alias and I get "401 Authorization Required" Alias /file.php /var/www/directory/file.php And a rewrite rule gets me a file not found error RewriteRule /file.php /var/www/directory/file.php [R] So do I have the right idea and the wrong syntax or is this even possible? BTW, I did try sending this email to the apache users group (users@httpd.apache.org, but got no response. Thanks Tony ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C831AB.3C680DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> <div class=3DSection1> I am using apache 1.3 on a debian etch system with a = 2.6 kernel. I have www root redirected from a file in conf.d. I am currently = using a symlink in the redirected root to direct a php file to a different = directory in /var/www/ and I would rather use httpd.conf to do this. = <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Although I am pretty sure that I can use the file in = conf.d, that file is used on other systems for a particular software program = that do not have this php file.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I have tried using an Alias and I get =   “401 Authorization Required”<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Alias /file.php = /var/www/directory/file.php<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> And a rewrite rule gets me a file not found = error<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> RewriteRule /file.php /var/www/directory/file.php = [R]<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> So do I have the right idea and the wrong syntax or = is this even possible?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> BTW, I did try sending this email to the apache users = group (users@httpd.apache.org, but got no = response.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Thanks <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Tony<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C831AB.3C680DC0-- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2898 ************************************************** Received on Wed Nov 28 12:54:53 2007

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