Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:18:16 +0200
From: "Dotan Cohen" <dotancohen@gmail.com>
To: js <ebgssth@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
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Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:46:47 +1100
From: hce <webmail.hce@gmail.com>
To: "John Miller" <jmiller@thecsl.org>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Network is unreachable email error
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On 12/9/07, John Miller <jmiller@thecsl.org> wrote:
> hce wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am using mutt in Debian, it was workng fine in both receive and send
> > emails (gmail server), but it is now only working receive email, does
> > not work to send email since last week, please see following error
> > message. Any suggestion what I could do wrong?
> >
> > Dec 9 14:13:48 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> > gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.147.27]: Network is unreachable
> > (port 25)
> > Dec 9 14:13:48 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> > gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.147.114]: Network is unreachable
> > (port 25)
> > Dec 9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> > alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[66.249.91.27]: Network is unreachable
> > (port 25)
> > Dec 9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> > alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[64.233.179.27]: Network is unreachable
> > (port 25)
> > Dec 9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> > gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable (port 25)
> > Dec 9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: 5523B42A9C:
> > to=<jupiter.hce@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=2, delays=0.03/0/2/0,
> > dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
> > gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable)
> > Dec 9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: 5523B42A9C:
> > to=<webmail.hce@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=2, delays=0.03/0/2/0,
> > dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
> > gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable)
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> Jim, from the looks of your logs (I'm assuming /var/log/mail.log--you
> didn't say in your message), you're not actually sending mail through
> gmail's server. Can you explain a bit more about your mail setup
> (Debian version, Postfix settings, etc.)?
Yes, the error message was from /var/log/mail.info.
The configuration is in postfix. The receive and send email to / from
gmail server work fine before I change to current ISP, could that be
my new ISP problem?
> Something easy to try in the meantime: can you establish an SMTP
> connection via telnet/netcat to 64.233.183.27 and 209.85.147.27?
>
> username@debian:~$ telnet 64.233.183.27 25
I could not make that work:
~$ telnet 64.233.183.27 25
Trying 64.233.183.27...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable
~$ telnet 64.233.183.27
Trying 64.233.183.27...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
The port 25 return error immediately, is it port 25 problem?
Seems it is a network connection problem, isn't it?
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Jim
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:24:22 -0500
From: Eric Brooks <eric@digitalexplorations.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: clicky keyboards
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I've been using the HHKB Lite 2 keyboard (also known as the "Happy Hacker
Lite") for a couple of years now. It has a firm touch but is fast and easy
to type on. I switch keyboards frequently to try to avoid carpal tunnel but
with this keyboard I haven't felt a twinge...
They have draw backs... It is a small keyboard, and the keys are all
straight facing rather than angled like a "Natural" keyboard. I like the
angled keyboards a lot, but the feel of the HHKB has keep me using it longer
than any other keyboard I've had in years.
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:26:25 -0600
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: Debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: OT: clicky keyboards
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On 12/09/07 06:34, Nate Duehr wrote:
>
> On Dec 8, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> Listening to people sing in Italian (or German) about incest and
>> matricide is not my cup of tea.
>
>
> We'll make sure not to ever invite you to any Shakespeare plays then,
> either.
The differences between Elizabethan English and modern American
makes Shakespeare is pretty difficult for me, constantly having to
think about what the phrase means, or having to pause the flow and
look down into the footnotes to determine the archaic meaning of a
word or phrase.
Monty Python is almost as bad, with their non-RP accents and topics
that were frequently specific to early-1970s Britain.
> Classic fictional tragedies often use such topics as a setting for an
> epic plot to emerge.
> Hamlet:
> Madam, how like you this play?
>
> Queen:
> The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
>
> (Of course, the above is a misquote, since the word "protest" meant
> something quite different in Shakespeare's time, but you get the idea.
> GRIN.)
- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
"Your mistletoe is no match for my TOW missile." Santa-bot
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:18:16 -0500
From: "Kumar R." <kumar.ravichandran@gmail.com>
To: js <ebgssth@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
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Hi,
I am running Debian on a Macbook. I used the Etch DVDs for install, and I
followed the instructions on the wiki entry http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook
I think that made most things work for me, including wireless, touchpad and
sound. Microphone worked after an alsa upgrade. Everything runs very
smoothly(you can configure the keyboard setup in your xorg.conf to match
your preferences), and I think the power settings can be set using ACPI as
well (not too sure about battery performance enhancement etc.).
Regards,
--
R.Kumar.
"An eye for an eye will only make the entire world blind."
-Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
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Hi,
I think that made most things work for me, including wireless, touchpad and sound. Microphone worked after an alsa upgrade. Everything runs very smoothly(you can configure the keyboard setup in your xorg.conf to match your preferences), and I think the power settings can be set using ACPI as well (not too sure about battery performance enhancement etc.).
Regards,
--
R.Kumar.
"An eye for an eye will only make the entire world blind."
-Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
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Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:17:43 +0100
From: Nyizsnyik Ferenc <nyizsa@bluebottle.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Math Programme.
Message-ID: <20071210221743.5ecb4a05@localhost.localdomain>
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:31:47 +0100
Jonathan Kaye <jdkaye10@yahoo.es> wrote:
> Michael Pobega wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 04:38:54PM +0900, David wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Something of interest to those of a mathematical bent:-
> >>
> >> http://www.sagemath.org/
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >
> > I read about this on /. today; Does anyone have any clue if there
> > will be some sort of a Debian package for it in the future?
> >
> You can find Debian binaries on the site now (seems to be for sarge)
> here: http://sage.apcocoa.org/SAGEbin/linux/32bit/ (or 64bit)
> Beware though 275MB!
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
Yes, I've read it too, and I understand that it could be much less if
it didn't include Python and other stuff that are already installed on
my system. That's what dependencies are for!
--
Szia:
Nyizsa.
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Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:59:58 -0800
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: buying TV card
Message-ID: <20071211005958.GG7681@localhost.localdomain>
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On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 03:52:10PM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:43:38AM -0500, Scott Lair wrote:
> ---deleted---
>> so its not strictly etch. Also, these cards include hardware mpeg
>> encoding which can be a blessing and a curse, depending on your
>> situation.=20
>> A
>
> Could you expand a bit on the subject of "a blessing and a curse" with=20
> respect to hardware mpeg encoding?
It's a blessing because having the mpeg encoding performed in hardware
on the card takes the load off your cpu. You can process more streams
with less cpu. It's a curse because the streams are compressed before
you get access to them. Any additional processing you might do will be
done on data that has already been compressed, leading to degraded
quality.
ymmv.
>
> Or, point to a relevant discussion of the issue?
well, we're having one right now ;-)
>
> I've been holding out, waiting for hardware mpeg card support in MythTV=
=20
> (been a while since I've checked, looks like it may have improved since)=
=20
> and was not aware of negative issues with it.
The hardware mpeg support is not in MythTV directly but is in the
drivers for the particular cards. Many of the Hauppage PVR cards (I
have two) have been supported by ivtv drivers for at least a couple of
years. You should be looking for kernel support for the cards, not
mythtv support. If there is kernel support, then there will be
/dev/video* devices that mythtv can record from.=20
A
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:41:51 +0000
From: John Talbut <john@dpets.demon.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Re: Debian on PCs
Message-ID: <475ED9EF.3090201@dpets.demon.co.uk>
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Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> On 12/11/07 06:05, John Talbut wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if there is a web site with a repository of users'
>> experiences of running Debian or GNU/Linux on PCs, similar to the
>> www.linux-laptop.netsite?
>
>> It would certainly have helped me to install Debian on some PCs if I
>> could have had a sight of .config, xorg.conf and driver information f=
rom
>> others who had experience with the same machines. And I could pass o=
n
>> my experiences.
>
> The snotty answer is http://lists.debian.org/users.html but what you
> probably want is something like these:
>=20
> http://www.debian-administration.org/
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/
>
> - --
> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson LA USA
>
Interesting sites but not what I am looking for, they have nothing like:
http://www.linux-laptop.net/
I have solved my problems - about 2 years to become MS free on a Dell Dim=
ension=20
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x9105=20
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t just=20
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ble to=20
find it.
--=20
=EF=BB=BFJohn Talbut
----
Use Open Source Software:
http://why.openoffice.org/
http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/
Why pay Microsoft when you can get excellent software free?
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 14:56:39 +0200
From: "Dotan Cohen" <dotancohen@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: clicky keyboards
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Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:25:37 -0500
From: John Miller <jmiller@thecsl.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Network is unreachable email error
Message-ID: <475B7C51.6090402@thecsl.org>
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hce wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using mutt in Debian, it was workng fine in both receive and send
> emails (gmail server), but it is now only working receive email, does
> not work to send email since last week, please see following error
> message. Any suggestion what I could do wrong?
>
> Dec 9 14:13:48 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.147.27]: Network is unreachable
> (port 25)
> Dec 9 14:13:48 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.147.114]: Network is unreachable
> (port 25)
> Dec 9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[66.249.91.27]: Network is unreachable
> (port 25)
> Dec 9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[64.233.179.27]: Network is unreachable
> (port 25)
> Dec 9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable (port 25)
> Dec 9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: 5523B42A9C:
> to=<jupiter.hce@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=2, delays=0.03/0/2/0,
> dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
> gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable)
> Dec 9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: 5523B42A9C:
> to=<webmail.hce@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=2, delays=0.03/0/2/0,
> dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
> gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable)
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Jim
>
>
Jim, from the looks of your logs (I'm assuming /var/log/mail.log--you
didn't say in your message), you're not actually sending mail through
gmail's server. Can you explain a bit more about your mail setup
(Debian version, Postfix settings, etc.)?
Something easy to try in the meantime: can you establish an SMTP
connection via telnet/netcat to 64.233.183.27 and 209.85.147.27?
username@debian:~$ telnet 64.233.183.27 25
FYI, I can establish SMTP connections on both of the IP addresses listed
in your log messages, so the servers are listening for connections.
--John
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:03:46 -0500
From: Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: System Lockup
Message-ID: <20071211180346.GA3994@digital-haze.net>
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 12:05:22PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
> I just experienced my first ever system lockup. No mouse, no keyboard wi=
th=20
> an Iceape screen open.
>
> I had saved a posting regarding SYSRQ and I tried Alt-Sysrq k then=20
> Alt-Sysrq i and the Alt-Sysrq b with no response.=20
> In desperation I crashed and rebooted the system. I am using linux-image=
=20
> 2.6.21-2-686. When the system came up I entered grep SYSRQ=20
> /boot/config-$(uname -r) and got the response CONFIG_MAGIC-SYSRQ=3Dy
>
>
> So its there. Either I did something wrong or it doesn't work with the=
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> problem I encountered.
>
> Tom George
>
>
Were you by chance using flashplayer? When I used to use the flash
package I got random crashes and lock ups...When I realized that flash
was the cause of these lockups I stopped using it and haven't touched it
since.
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programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they
restrict the use of these programs.=20
- Richard Stallman
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:52:01 +0100
From: "Miguel J." =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jim=E9nez?= <MiguelJose.Jimenez@isotrol.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: D-BUS
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Hi, is there a way to send a message using "dbus-send" that appears at
the desktop kind of what libnotify does? if not, is there a similar way
to do that using console? Thanks...
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:19:51 -0600
From: cothrige <cothrige@bellsouth.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How Linux becomes Windows
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Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com> writes:
> Odd. Mine just said, "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave."
Well, you probably let it see you coming.
> A quick Wikipedia search (found it on my first try) gave me this:
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avahi_%28software%29>
Showoff ;-)
Seriously though, I must admit it appears like it could be useful,
though on my little standalone box it probably wouldn't do much for me.
Patrick
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:57:01 -0700
From: Telly Williams <twilliams001@elp.rr.com>
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Compile Error, Debian 2.6.23.9
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Hi,
I've been trying to compile the 2.6.23.9 Debian kernel onto an
IBM Thinkpad 570. I keep getting this error:
drivers/net/usb/cdc_subset.c:222:2: error: You need to configure
some hardware for this driver
I decided to use the existing configuration file on my system
and I still get this error. What is being compiled that I
shouldn't be compiling? Thanks.
--
Telly Williams
"Knowledge Is Power"
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:28:03 -0600
From: Nate Bargmann <n0nb@networksplus.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How Linux becomes Windows
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Looks like someone is having a bad day.
Perhaps Slackware is what you're looking for.
- Nate >>
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