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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2989

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2989

Today's Topics: 

  Error reported while trying to updat  [ Peter Ellison  ]
  Network is unreachable email error    [ hce  ]
  Re: Network (LAN) 'lost'              [ Uwe Dippel  ]
  Fwd: Anyone using Debian on notebook  [ Baz  ]
  CoverCD Agreement - Linux+ magazine   [ Katarzyna Kaczor  ]
  Re: Network is unreachable email err  [ Celejar  ]
  Re: java applet compile problem       [ Bogdan Marian 

Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:58:21 +0000


From: Peter Ellison <p.pe@btopenworld.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Error reported while trying to update Linux Image
Message-ID: <475E7B5D.40309@btopenworld.com>
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Hi


This morning using automatic updater I was advised of a number of 
updates to apply to my system (samba etc.) Included in this list of 
updates is linux-image-2.6.18-5-486_2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch5_i386.deb.



I have previously followed the suggested items to update/install without 
problem (including images).


Do you need help?X

Today all installed seamlessly except the Linux image which halted with 
the following error displayed :-




E: 


/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.18-5-486_2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch5_i386.deb: 
failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1)




After several attempts at unpacking the image, I removed the package 
from /var/cache/apt/archives/ to make the system download the package 
again (thinking it might have been an induced error during the download 
process)but this seems not to be the case, it produces the same error.



Is this a fault within my system  or is their a problem with the package 
itself (creation date 2/12/07).



Any help resolving this matter would be apprentice


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Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:09:05 -0600


From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To:  debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Network is unreachable email error

Message-ID: <475B7871.3030405@cox.net>
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Do you need more help?X
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On 12/08/07 21:35, hce wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am using mutt in Debian, it was workng fine in both receive and send
> emails (gmail server), but it is now only working receive email, does
> not work to send email since last week, please see following error
> message. Any suggestion what I could do wrong?
> 
> Dec  9 14:13:48 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.147.27]: Network is unreachable
> (port 25)
> Dec  9 14:13:48 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.147.114]: Network is unreachable
> (port 25)
> Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[66.249.91.27]: Network is unreachable
> (port 25)
> Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[64.233.179.27]: Network is unreachable
> (port 25)
> Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable (port 25)
> Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: 5523B42A9C:
> to=<jupiter.hce@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=2, delays=0.03/0/2/0,
> dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
> gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable)
> Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: 5523B42A9C:
> to=<webmail.hce@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=2, delays=0.03/0/2/0,
> dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
> gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable)

Can you ping that machine?  What have you configured as the Google
SMTP server?



  •   --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA




"Your mistletoe is no match for my TOW missile."  Santa-bot
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Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:35:45 +1100


From: hce <webmail.hce@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Network is unreachable email error

Message-ID: <95455e980712081935o21a42181g44828a61faa567bd@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,



I am using mutt in Debian, it was workng fine in both receive and send
emails (gmail server), but it is now only working receive email, does
not work to send email since last week, please see following error
message. Any suggestion what I could do wrong?


Can we help you?X

Dec  9 14:13:48 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.147.27]: Network is unreachable
(port 25)


Dec  9 14:13:48 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.147.114]: Network is unreachable
(port 25)


Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[66.249.91.27]: Network is unreachable
(port 25)


Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[64.233.179.27]: Network is unreachable
(port 25)


Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable (port 25)
Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: 5523B42A9C:
to=<jupiter.hce@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=2, delays=0.03/0/2/0,
dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to


gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable)
Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: 5523B42A9C:
to=<webmail.hce@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=2, delays=0.03/0/2/0,
dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to


gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable)




Thank you.



Jim



Date:  Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:39:54 +0800


From:  Uwe Dippel <udippel@uniten.edu.my>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject:  Re: Network (LAN) 'lost'

Message-ID:  
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:11:57 +0100, Benjamin Schmidt wrote:


> If you have udev installed and it recognizes a ethernet adapter with a
> unknown mac address, it will assign a new eth*-reference. So maybe you
> used a mac changer or some updates deletes a udev specific file. I don'=

t

> know.
>=20


> The configuration file you need, is:
> /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
>=20


> delete the entry with "eth0" and rename the other entry from eth2 to
> eth0. Ok, now reboot (or only restart udev, don't know) and you will
> have eth0 again.

Somewhat true. Lightning struck and killed the other, same type, NIC. I
had shut down and plugged a new one.


I wonder how anyone can *not* call this behaviour silly && buggy. :(


Can't find what you're looking for?X

Thanks anyway,



Uwe,


deeply disappointed by a stupid crap like this udev behaviour.



Who would ever dare to talk about acceptance of Linux as desktop with suc=
h


useless stuff ?



Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 00:20:32 -0800


From: Baz <bazciscor@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Fwd: Anyone using Debian on notebook?

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Don't know where to look next?X


  •   Forwarded message ----------
From: Baz <bazciscor@gmail.com>
Date: Dec 9, 2007 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
To: js <ebgssth@gmail.com>






On Dec 8, 2007 10:27 PM, js <ebgssth@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi list,
>


> I've just switched back my dev box from OS X to Debian.
> (I was used to be a Debian users but away from Debian for about 3 or
> more years.)
> OS X is great but Debian is so much better and easier in managing packages.
> OS X has some alternative to APT, like Fink and MacPorts
> but they are not official and packages is fewer than Debian's.
> In addition, Debian provides clearner system, conf is in /etc, binary
> is in /usr/bin.
>


> So I'm thinking that I also switch my notebook's OS to Debian.
> Before starting this switch, I like to hear some comments from
> people who's using Debian on their notebook.
> Is there any annoyance?
>


> One thing I worry is battery management
> where Apple's MacBook is very good at.
> OS X's sleep mode is just works. I love it so much.
>


> Thanks.
>
>


> --
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org

>


>



Hi, I'm using Debian stable (4.0r1) on a Thinkpad.  One of my concerns
when I was etch (a weekly image from Dec-06) earlier this year was I
could get neither suspend nor hibernate to work.  Both worked
out-of-the box when I reinstalled Debian last weekend after a six
month hiatus.  The off period had nothing to do with Debian, but a
Lenovo Rescue & Recovery upgrade made GRUB inoperable, so I just
re-installed XP last April.  Sebastian


--
"...heart and soul....one will burn."
- Joy Division



-- 
"...heart and soul....one will burn."
- Joy Division


Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:29:17 +0100
From: Katarzyna Kaczor <katarzyna.kaczor@lpmagazine.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: CoverCD Agreement - Linux+ magazine
Message-Id: <200712110929.17838.katarzyna.kaczor@lpmagazine.org>
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  charset="iso-8859-1"
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Hello,

My name is Katarzyna Kaczor and I am an editorial assistant in Linux+=20
magazine.=20

The next 2/2008 issue of Linux+ will be devoted to Debian 4.0.=20
Many thanks to all from Debian community who prpvided us with articles abou=
t=20
Debian, its installation, configuration, how-tos, tips&trics etc.=20

Do you mind if we re-distribute your Software with our publication?=20
We would like to feature Debian 4.0 distro on Linux+dvd. Could we also use=
=20
your product logo and graphics? =A0Could you give me the access to download=
 it=20
via FTP.=20

Also, I would like to ask you for sending me a CoverCD Agreement.=20

I look forward on working with you. =A0

Thank you in advance for your kind help.

Kate
=2D-=20
Katarzyna Kaczor
Linux+ DVD magazine
www.lpmagazine.org/en

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Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:51:33 +0900
From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: Debian List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: OT: clicky keyboards
Message-ID: <87tzmqrtve.fsf@catnip.gol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> writes:

> "Ergonomic" is not a word I'd use to describe the computers and
> terminals I'm familiar with from the late 70s.  Most had truly awful
> keyboards.  The Apple II, TRS-80, and VT-100 all had keyboards that
> just hit bottom, plastic-on-plastic, with no tactile feedback at  all.
> I found it very hard to type quickly on those machines.


I agree the Apple II and TRS-80 keyboards were crap, but I have very
fond memories of hacking on the VT-100.  I guess the keyboard feel
wasn't all that great compared to a model-m or something, but there was
just something very nice about the whole package (the keyboard _shape_,
and key layout on the VT-100, for instance, were great)...

Unfortunately VT-100s don't seem to age very gracefully -- even in the
late '80s, it was getting very hard to find one in good condition.

-Miles

-- 
In New York, most people don't have cars, so if you want to kill a person, you
have to take the subway to their house.  And sometimes on the way, the train
is delayed and you get impatient, so you have to kill someone on the subway.
  [George Carlin]



Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:35:50 -0500
From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Network is unreachable email error
Message-Id: <20071209153550.3fe136d4.celejar@gmail.com>
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:46:47 +1100
hce <webmail.hce@gmail.com> wrote:


> On 12/9/07, John Miller <jmiller@thecsl.org> wrote:
> > hce wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am using mutt in Debian, it was workng fine in both receive and send
> > > emails (gmail server), but it is now only working receive email, does
> > > not work to send email since last week, please see following error
> > > message. Any suggestion what I could do wrong?
> > >
> > > Dec  9 14:13:48 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> > > gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.147.27]: Network is unreachable
> > > (port 25)
> > > Dec  9 14:13:48 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> > > gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.147.114]: Network is unreachable
> > > (port 25)
> > > Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> > > alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[66.249.91.27]: Network is unreachable
> > > (port 25)
> > > Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> > > alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[64.233.179.27]: Network is unreachable
> > > (port 25)
> > > Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: connect to
> > > gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable (port 25)
> > > Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: 5523B42A9C:
> > > to=<jupiter.hce@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=2, delays=0.03/0/2/0,
> > > dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
> > > gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable)
> > > Dec  9 14:13:49 debian postfix/smtp[13065]: 5523B42A9C:
> > > to=<webmail.hce@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=2, delays=0.03/0/2/0,
> > > dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
> > > gsmtp183.google.com[64.233.183.27]: Network is unreachable)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > Jim, from the looks of your logs (I'm assuming /var/log/mail.log--you
> > didn't say in your message), you're not actually sending mail through
> > gmail's server.  Can you explain a bit more about your mail setup
> > (Debian version, Postfix settings, etc.)?
> 
> Yes, the error message was from /var/log/mail.info.
> 
> The configuration is in postfix. The receive and send email to / from
> gmail server work fine before I change to current ISP, could that be
> my new ISP problem?
> 
> > Something easy to try in the meantime: can you establish an SMTP
> > connection via telnet/netcat to 64.233.183.27 and 209.85.147.27?
> >
> > username@debian:~$ telnet 64.233.183.27 25
> 
> I could not make that work:
> 
> ~$ telnet 64.233.183.27 25
> Trying 64.233.183.27...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable
> 
> ~$ telnet 64.233.183.27
> Trying 64.233.183.27...
> 
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
> 
> The port 25 return error immediately, is it port 25 problem?
> 
> Seems it is a network connection problem, isn't it?


Many ISPs block port 25; use 465 or 587:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13287
> Jim


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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:27:56 +0200
From: Bogdan Marian <mendingo84@gmail.com>
To: Robert Jerrard <rjerrard@math.concordia.ab.ca>
CC: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: java applet compile problem
Message-ID: <475EF2CC.5060009@gmail.com>
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Robert Jerrard wrote:

> I am trying to enter the world of java applets but am having problems
> compiling applet code. I downloaded an analog clock applet from the web
> (which works) but want to modify it. However:

>

> bob@penrose:~/Java$ kaffe AnalogClockApplet
> java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: main
>    at java.lang.VMThrowable.fillInStackTrace (VMThrowable.java:native)
>    at java.lang.VMThrowable.fillInStackTrace (VMThrowable.java:79)
>    at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace (Throwable.java:498)
>    at java.lang.Throwable.<init> (Throwable.java:159)
>    at java.lang.Error.<init> (Error.java:81)
>    at java.lang.LinkageError.<init> (LinkageError.java:72)
>    at java.lang.IncompatibleClassChangeError.<init>
> (IncompatibleClassChangeError.java:71)
>    at java.lang.NoSuchMethodError.<init> (NoSuchMethodError.java:72)

>

> I don't know java as yet but have not modified the code of
> AnalogClockApplet.java yet so why does it not compile? Any pointers?

>

> I am running a Debian unstable system that is reasonably up-to-date and
> as for java:

>

> bob@penrose:~/Java$ dpkg -l | fgrep java
> ii  gjdoc 0.7.8-6 documentation generation framework for java 
> ii  java-common 0.25 Base of all Java packages
> ii  libecj-java 3.3.0+0728-5 Eclipse Java compiler (library)
> ii  libecj-java-gcj 3.3.0+0728-5 Eclipse Java compiler (native library)
> ii  libhsqldb-java 1.8.0.8-1 Java SQL database engine
> ii  libjaxp1.3-java 1.3.04-2 Java XML parser and transformer APIs
> ii  libjline-java 0.9.5-3 Java library for handling console input
> ii  libservlet2.3-java 4.0-8 Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 Java classes and
> doc
> ii  libservlet2.4-java 5.0.30-5 Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0 Java classes and
> doc
> ii  libxalan2-java 2.7.0-5 XSL Transformations (XSLT) processor in Java
> ii  libxerces2-java 2.9.0-1 Validating XML parser for Java with DOM leve
> ii  libxt-java 0.20050823-2 An implementation in Java of XSL Transformat
> ii  openoffice.org-java-common 2.2.1-8 OpenOffice.org office suite Java
> support arc
> ii  sun-java5-bin 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
> ii  sun-java5-demo 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
> demos
> ii  sun-java5-fonts 1.5.0-13-1 Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)
> ii  sun-java5-jdk 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
> ii  sun-java5-jre 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
> ii  sun-java5-plugin 1.5.0-13-1 The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0
> ii  sun-java5-source 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
> source

>

> Thanks for any pointers, Bob

>

>   

Hi,

 From what i can see, you are trying to use a method that is not known 
by your JVM ( Java Virtual Machine ) . Could you please post the output 
of "java -version" ? Anyway, by no means is this a Debian related 
problem. I think the guys from the Java forums can give you more proper 
advice.

BR,
Bogdan



Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:34:28 +0000
From: Mihira Fernando <mihiratheace@gmail.com>
To: Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Network is unreachable email error
Message-ID: <475EE644.2090306@gmail.com>
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hce wrote:

> 
> $ /usr/sbin/postconf -n
> alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
> append_dot_mydomain = yes
> biff = no
> canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/canonical
> config_directory = /etc/postfix
> inet_interfaces = loopback-only
> inet_protocols = ipv4
> mailbox_size_limit = 51200000
> masquerade_domains = bizmail.com.au
> mydestination = mail.bizmail.com.au
> myhostname = debian
> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
> myorigin = /etc/mailname
> recipient_delimiter = +
> relayhost =
> smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
> smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter = login
> smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
> smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
> smtp_sasl_type = cyrus
> smtp_tls_CApath = /etc/ssl/certs
> smtp_tls_security_level = may
> smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtp_scache
> smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Ubuntu)
> smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
> smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key
> smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtpd_scache
> smtpd_use_tls = yes
> 
> The bizmail.com.au is wrong, it was my old ISP, but I could not find
> where the parameters get it from?

Most likely this is in your main.cf


> 
> I only use one file mailname and I have changed mailname to
> smtp.gmail.com:587, but still got port 25:

What is mailname ? are you referring to /etc/mailname ?
Your postfix configuration doesnt seem to be using any file called mailname so 
changing that will not help you.

> 
> Dec 11 22:07:47 debian postfix/smtp[5598]: connect to
> mailc.microsoft.com[131.107.115.214]: Network is unreachable (port 25)

Because you're not using a relayhost, Postfix is trying to send the mail 
directly to the recipient's mailserver and since your ISP is blocking port 25, 
Postfix cannot access it.


> 
> That's correct. I've only got three files contains specific mail
> information in postfix:
> 
> 1. mailname: smtp.gmail.com:587

Again, what is this file ? where is it located ?

> 
> 2. canonical
> 
> yh      webmail.hce@gmail.com
> root        webmail.hce@gmail.com
> 
> 3. sasl_passwd
> 
> smtp.gmail.com  webmail.hce@gmail.com:mypassword
> 
> That was working fine to my previous ISP bizmail.com.au, or may be
> because the postfix config set to:
> 
> masquerade_domains = bizmail.com.au
> mydestination = mail.bizmail.com.au
> 
> I could not find postfix.conf, and where I can change those parameers?

/etc/postfix/main.cf is the place to change these parameters.

If your postfix version is > 2.3 you can use the postconf -e command to edit the 
main.cf like this:
postconf -e parameter_name=value

Try the following (as root) :

# postconf -e relayhost=[smtp.gmail.com]:587

To remove the masquerades :
# postconf -e masquerade_domains=

Since you're not mail.bizmail.com.au, change mydestination to either your FQDN 
and/or simply localhost.

# postconf -e mydestination=localhost

Now reload Postfix:

# postfix reload

That should get things moving.

Mihira.

PS. Please send replies only to the list.

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