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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2995

Today's Topics: 

  Re: How to start KDE from a console   [ Hugo Vanwoerkom  ]
  Re: Kernel (Enable PAE)               [ =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rcio_Luciano_Don ]
  Re: Compile Error, Debian 2.6.23.9    [ Hugo Vanwoerkom  ]
  how to use ted?                       [ Hugo Vanwoerkom  ]
  Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?  [ iuri de araujo sampaio  ]
  Re: How to start KDE from a console   [ Kent West  ]
  Re: How to start KDE from a console   [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Re: System Lockup - Thanks            [ "Thomas H. George"  ]
  Re: how to use ted?                   [ Hugo Vanwoerkom  ]
  NFS setup                             [ iuri de araujo sampaio  ]
  OFERTAS DE NAVIDAD !!!!!!!!!!!!       [ "PC FULL" 

Date:  Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:51:50 -0600


From:  Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject:  Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

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Ron Johnson wrote:

> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 08:29:02 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 12/11/07 20:20, Michael Pobega wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:36:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> To enter GNOME, I type "startx".  I tried entering KDE by typing
>>>> "startkde" which I what I remember doing a couple of years ago when
>>>> I last tried it.  But it can't start X.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any clues?
>>>>
>>>> $ startkde
>>>> [snip x errors]
>>> startx /usr/bin/startkde
>> Remembering that, I tried "startx startkde", but that bombed.  Now I
>> know why...
>>


Why?



Hugo


Do you need more help?X

Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:09:16 -0500


From: "Dave" <dmehler26@woh.rr.com>


To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>


Subject: network modules loading?


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Hello,


    Newbie to Debian. I've got a 4.0 system with two nics in it, one a 
realtek 8139, the other a 3com 3c905. One is configured via dhcp, the other 
will be via static. I read that /etc/modules contains the names of kernel 
drivers loaded at boot. I checked this file expecting to see the names of 
the nic modules, all i saw is loop for the loopback device, yet the nics are 
loaded. Checking lsmod i see the modules, mii, 3c59x, and 8139too. Where are 
they loading from?


Thanks.


Dave.



Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:39:30 -0200


From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rcio_Luciano_Donada?=
 <mdonada@auroraalimentos.com.br>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Kernel (Enable PAE)

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Jochen Schulz escreveu:

> M=E1rcio Luciano Donada:
>> We have an HP server with 8Gb of memory, but the system is
>> recognizing just 4Gb. Baixei the sources of kernel to the
>> compilation of the PAE module, but when I install the new kernel
>> I have the following message system:
>


> What part of the message don't you understand?  You are trying to
> install a kernel image in a version which you already have
> installed. Overwriting the /lib/modules/<kernel version> directory
> might be a bad idea and that's why you should probably move the
> existing directory out of the way before installing the new one.
> Just do that and everything will be fine.

>

> J.

That, in fact the message left me a little concerned. For as I am
already using the kernel, I thought that something might happen in the
kernel and I lose the boot from the server, if this happens we will be
without the mail server. So just move the 2.6.18 for a 2.6.18.old?



Can we help you?X

mx:/lib/modules# ls -alh


total 32K

drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4,0K 2007-10-03 15:22 .
drwxr-xr-x 12 root root  12K 2007-12-07 16:59 ..
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4,0K 2007-10-03 14:29 2.6.18
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4,0K 2007-10-03 12:01 2.6.18-3-686
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4,0K 2007-12-11 22:51 2.6.18-5-686
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4,0K 2007-10-03 15:23 2.6.22

  •   --
M=E1rcio Luciano Donada <mdonada at auroraalimentos dot com dot br>
Aurora Alimentos - Cooperativa Central Oeste Catarinense
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Date:  Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:47:01 -0600


From:  Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject:  Re: Compile Error, Debian 2.6.23.9

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Telly Williams wrote:

>> I may be dense but what exactly are you compiling?

> 
> 	The 2.6.23.9 kernel obtained from kernel.org.  Kernel
> 	recompiling works on my Microtel without errors.  Like the error
> 	said, it looks like a hardware error dealing with the USB port,
> 	but I loaded the configuration file located in /boot that was
> 	installed by default.

> 
>> I just compiled the 2.6.23-1-686 kernel because I wanted to add the ck 
>> patch and then recompiling is the only way.
>>

> 	I need that kernel for a usb-->ethernet adapter that I bought.

> 

So you are *not* compiling a Debian kernel but compiling the vanilla 
kernel.org kernel.



And the new 2.6.23-1 Debian kernel hasn't got that adapter code?



Hugo



Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:27:51 +1100 (EST)
From: Cameron Hutchison <lists@xdna.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: ntpd restart on IP address change the Debian way
Message-Id: <20071212122751.46EA34062@xionine.xdna.net>


Can't find what you're looking for?X

Bob wrote:

>Bob wrote:
>> Is there such a thing?
>>
>> When my firewall / dhcp server / ntp server gets a fresh IP address 
>> from my ISP the ntp daemon stops responding to requests.

Don't know where to look next?X

>>
>Is the silence because it's a stupid question or because there isn't a 
>preferred work around for this?


How does your firewall get its IP address? 



If it is by PPP then you can scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}.d to start
and stop the ntp daemon.  This should get triggered when a new IP address
is negotiated.



Check the man page for pppd(8) and search for ip-up to see the details
of how it's used, but just dropping scripts in those directories should
be sufficient.



Date:  Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:10:44 -0600


From:  Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject:  how to use ted?

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Hi,



I installed ted on Sid and expected to be able to edit a new rtf doc.


Confused? Frustrated?X

No such luck, it just sits and stares at me.



Anybody able to edit a new doc with ted?



Hugo



Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:55:31 +0100


From: dulev <dusan.vodopivec@pro-ing.co.yu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Kernel (Enable PAE)

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> without the mail server. So just move the 2.6.18 for a 2.6.18.old?
> 
> 
> mx:/lib/modules# ls -alh
> total 32K
> drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4,0K 2007-10-03 15:22 .
> drwxr-xr-x 12 root root  12K 2007-12-07 16:59 ..
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4,0K 2007-10-03 14:29 2.6.18
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4,0K 2007-10-03 12:01 2.6.18-3-686
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4,0K 2007-12-11 22:51 2.6.18-5-686
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4,0K 2007-10-03 15:23 2.6.22

Don't forget to make backup of files in /boot:



config-2.6.18-xxxx


initrd.img-2.6.18-xxxx


System.map-2.6.18-xxxx


vmlinuz-2.6.18-xxxx


Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:21:38 +0100


From: Jochen Schulz <ml@well-adjusted.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Kernel (Enable PAE)


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M=E1rcio Luciano Donada:

> Jochen Schulz escreveu:
>>=20
>> What part of the message don't you understand?  You are trying to
>> install a kernel image in a version which you already have
>> installed. Overwriting the /lib/modules/ directory
>> might be a bad idea and that's why you should probably move the
>> existing directory out of the way before installing the new one.
>> Just do that and everything will be fine.
>=20


> That, in fact the message left me a little concerned. For as I am
> already using the kernel, I thought that something might happen in the
> kernel

Yes, something /might/ happen when you overwrite existing modules and
keep running the old kernel. Loading of new modules might fail, for
example, so /if/ you simply overwrite the modules you should reboot as
soon as possible.


> and I lose the boot from the server, if this happens we will be
> without the mail server. So just move the 2.6.18 for a 2.6.18.old?

Yes. After that, install the new kernel deb and reboot. The kernel
package's maintainer scripts should take care that you boot loader is
configured correctly (you might want to double-check that before
reboot).


Do you need help?X

J.


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[Agree]   [Disagree]

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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:30:37 -0300


From: iuri de araujo sampaio <iuri.sampaio@gmail.com>
To: Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu>
Cc: js <ebgssth@gmail.com>, Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org>,  debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?

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Hi Amit,



good to know you did not have problems at all.
I run Ubuntu on AMD64 platform. Plus a debian etch server on AMD 32bits
platform. I just amazed how beauty is it!!



Do you need more help?X

iuri 


On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 23:59 -0800, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:56:10 +0900
> js <ebgssth@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I don't think debian works well on my ppc mac (iBook).
> > I would buy thinkpad or something.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Really? I am running Debian Etch on a PowerBook G4 and have no problems at all. In fact, I really did not have to hack around or anything.
> 
> 

Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:34:23 -0600


From: Kent West <westk@acu.edu>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


CC:  debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: X server crashes everything

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Andrew Varner wrote:

> Hi
>


> I have a problem with the X server. When I type 'X', the screen goes
> black and everything stops. SysRq+b doesn't even work. Is it likely that
> I am missing the driver?

The video driver is where I would start. I'd shoot for the lowest common 
denominator to start, by "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choosing 
the vesa driver (or even the vga driver), then work up from there.


-- 
Kent


Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:40:25 -0600
From: Kent West <westk@acu.edu>
To:  debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?
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Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Ron Johnson wrote:

>> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 08:29:02 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> On 12/11/07 20:20, Michael Pobega wrote:
>>>> startx /usr/bin/startkde
>>> Remembering that, I tried "startx startkde", but that bombed.  Now I
>>> know why...
>>>
>

> Why?

>
I _think_ Ron is saying that earlier before posting his original 
question he had vaguely remembered the need to feed a parameter to 
"startx", and had therefore earlier tried "startx startkde", but it 
failed. When Michael wrote "startx /usr/bin/startkde", Ron then realized 
why his earlier attempt had bombed: he had failed to provide the full 
path to "startkde".

At least that's what I took him to be saying. Perhaps he'll jump back in 
here and clarify for us.

-- 
Kent



Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:12:37 -0600
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?
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On Wednesday 12 December 2007 07:40:25 am Kent West wrote:

> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 08:29:02 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>> On 12/11/07 20:20, Michael Pobega wrote:
> >>>> startx /usr/bin/startkde
> >>>
> >>> Remembering that, I tried "startx startkde", but that
> >>> bombed.  Now I know why...
> >
> > Why?

>

> I _think_ Ron is saying that earlier before posting his
> original question he had vaguely remembered the need to feed a
> parameter to "startx", and had therefore earlier tried "startx
> startkde", but it failed. When Michael wrote "startx
> /usr/bin/startkde", Ron then realized why his earlier attempt
> had bombed: he had failed to provide the full path to
> "startkde".

>

> At least that's what I took him to be saying. Perhaps he'll
> jump back in here and clarify for us.


That's exactly correct.

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Jefferson, LA  USA

"We have the power to do any damn fool thing we want to do, and
we seem to do it about every ten minutes."
Senator J. William Fulbright (D-AR)



Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:34:48 -0500
From: "Thomas H. George" <lists@tomgeorge.info>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: System Lockup - Thanks
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:50:26PM +0100, strawks wrote:

> > I just experienced my first ever system lockup.  No mouse, no keyboard 
> > with an Iceape screen open.
> 
> > I had saved a posting regarding SYSRQ and I tried Alt-Sysrq k then 
> > Alt-Sysrq i and the Alt-Sysrq b with no response. 
> 
> Did you really press those 3 keys at the same time? To see if it works
> switch to a console and try it there (Alt-Sysrq-s should print
> something).


No, I did not press all three keys at the same time.  The posting I
saved says, "Pressing Alt-SysRq on an i386, followed by one of the keys
r 0 k e i s u b, does the magic."  Following your suggestion I tried
Alt-Sysrq-s and the system promptly responded:

	Sysrq: Emergency Sync
	Emergency Sync complete

so it was my misunderstanding not a problem with Sysrq.  Thanks for
pointing out my error.

Tom George

> 
> > In desperation I crashed and rebooted the system.  I am using 
> > linux-image 2.6.21-2-686.  When the system came up I entered grep SYSRQ 
> > /boot/config-$(uname -r) and got the response CONFIG_MAGIC-SYSRQ=y
> > 
> > 
> > So its there.  Either I did something wrong or it doesn't work with the 
> > problem I encountered.
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought sysrq should work in any case but
> hardware problem as it's done directly in the IRQ handler.
> 
> -- 
> regards,
> strawks
> 
> 
> 
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Can we help you?X

Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:44:11 -0500
From: Ralph Katz <ralph.katz@rcn.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: no email
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On 12/11/2007 10:56 AM, Mark Grieveson wrote:

> Hello.  I'm subscribed to the digest of this list, and used to
> regularly receive email.  Suddenly, it stopped.  I resubscribed, but
> still am receiving nothing.  I now follow the list via the web.
> 
> Has anyone else had this issue?  


Hi Mark -- I read the list as newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user from
gmane.org which also has a nice newsgroup web browser.  But I post
directly to the email list, which is faster.

Ralph



Date:  Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:01:12 -0600
From:  Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: how to use ted?
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Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I installed ted on Sid and expected to be able to edit a new rtf doc.
> 
> No such luck, it just sits and stares at me.
> 
> Anybody able to edit a new doc with ted?
> 


Forget ted. Oowriter does it very nicely. Sorry.

Hugo



Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:15:50 -0800
From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: lost sources.list file during atempted upgrade
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On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 05:05:34AM -0500, Dave <dmehler26@woh.rr.com> was heard to say:

>    I'm a newbie to Debian Etch but not new to Linux in general.
>    I was reading the Debian Reference doc section 5.2 going to upgrade from 
> i believe the terms are Etch Stable to testing. I did a
> cp -f sources.list sources.list.old
> and later discovered that both files were of zero length. I assume i have a 
> problem?


  Yes, but not a big one.  Just fill the sources for testing back in:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

  If you want, you can add a second pair of lines for "stable" by
changing "testing" to "stable".

  Daniel



Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:28:17 +0100
From: Gerard Robin <g.robin3@free.fr>
To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: galeon and mutt
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Hello,
with xterm installed in my box, when I clicked on an address e-mail
galeon opened mutt in an xterm.
Now I have removed xterm and I installed roxterm instead, but when I
click on an address e-mail nothing happens.
How can I set galeon so that it opens mutt via roxterm ?

tia
--=20
G=E9rard



Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:56:57 -0300
From: iuri de araujo sampaio <iuri.sampaio@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: NFS setup
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Hi all,

I=C2=B4ve read other threads on this and posted some of my problems.
As it stands i am stuck, so forgive me for starting a new thread in what
i think is the right section.

My aim is to share my backup folder to the other computers on my home
network. The location of this folder is home/backup on the server
machine.

I have installed nfs to the server via......
sudo apt-get install nfs-common portmap nfs-kernel-server

I have installed nfs to the client via......
sudo apt-get install nfs-common portmap


My desktop is the server machine 192.168.1.2
My laptop is the client machine 192.168.1.3

I have edited etc/exports to share /home/backup
/home/backup 192.168.1.3(rw,sync,no_root_squash)


I would like to know if i have done everything properly on the server
and client  machine.

Because i got the error bellow when i try to mount the nfs partition on
the client side.
$ sudo mount 192.168.1.2:/home/backup /mnt/nfs
$ mount.nfs: 192.168.1.2:/home/backup failed, reason given by server:
Permission denied

i can ping between each machine. I believe the permission is denied
because both machines don=C2=B4t have each other listed
at /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny
Is that possible? and how to add them properly?  i tried to add them but
it doesn=C2=B4t work either.

please help,
iuri



Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:22:41 +0100
From: "Martin Marcher" <martin@marcher.name>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: galeon and mutt
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Hi,

On 12/12/07, Gerard Robin <g.robin3@free.fr> wrote:

> Hello,
> with xterm installed in my box, when I clicked on an address e-mail
> galeon opened mutt in an xterm.
> Now I have removed xterm and I installed roxterm instead, but when I
> click on an address e-mail nothing happens.
> How can I set galeon so that it opens mutt via roxterm ?


what does "update-alternatives --display x-terminal-emulator"

you might want to set it to the correct term with
"update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator"

if you find it points to a wrong term-emulator


hth
martin

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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:52:26 +0100
From: Gerard Robin <g.robin3@free.fr>
To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: galeon and mutt
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On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 05:22:41PM +0100, Martin Marcher wrote:
>From: Martin Marcher <martin@marcher.name>
>To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: galeon and mutt
>X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org
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>On 12/12/07, Gerard Robin <g.robin3@free.fr> wrote:

>> How can I set galeon so that it opens mutt via roxterm ?
>
>what does "update-alternatives --display x-terminal-emulator"
>
>you might want to set it to the correct term with
>"update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator"
>
>if you find it points to a wrong term-emulator
thanks, it's very nice advice :-)=20
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G=E9rard



Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:24:22 +0100
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