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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #3009

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 3009

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Using exim as SMTP-AUTH client    [ Felix Karpfen  ]
  HPLIP problem communicating with HP   [ "Fred Yeadon"  ]
  Re: volume mgmt w/o gnome             [ Mark Grieveson  ]
  Re: How to stop a pkg being updated   [ Daniel Burrows  ]
  Re: OT: clicky keyboards              [ Brad Rogers  ]
  Re: closest to eagle                  [ Carl Johnson  ]

Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:03:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Felix Karpfen <felixk@webone.com.au> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Using exim as SMTP-AUTH client 

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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:49:09 -0500, Celejar wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:24:14 +0000 (UTC)
> Felix Karpfen <felixk@webone.com.au> wrote:

>>=20
>> Are there any problems with having more than one entry in my
>> "etc/exim4/passwd.client" file?
>=20

Do you need help?X

> see this thread for an account of some trouble I once had using exim
> with Gmail:
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D403583
>

That reference helped a lot! My error message, when attempting to send mail from my GMail account, was (from memory) virtually identical with that quoted in the bug report.

Given that I have exim4/4.63-17, I may be lucky; the bug has been fixed. I shall soon know if that was the problem; at least, I now know where to look.

Many thanks

Felix

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Felix Karpfen
Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA)

Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:24:53 -0600 (CST) From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: alpine question
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Do you need more help?X

I have a couple different email accounts one has pop address as incoming.verizon.net and another has incoming email address of mail.shellworld.net and the same for outgoing address. Having had a look at the alpine configuration file, it doesn't appear to have a place to document the incoming email address be it pop or imap unless I'm missing something here.

Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:46:58 +0100
From: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb@tiscali.fr>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to stop a pkg being updated to the latest with Apt 

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On Wednesday 12 December 2007 20:23, Peter Werner wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 07:44:39PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > How do I prevent the fltk package being upgraded using Apt?
>
> put the package on hold. see 6.12 in
> http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html
> on how to do this.
>
> greetings Peter Werner

Thanks Peter for your reply, and the link. Unfortunately it only deals with Aptitude, and Dpkg, and there appears to be no way to put a hold on an individual package with Apt ( at least not on the Apt version on Fedora).

I also posted this question to apt-rpm@lists.laiskiainen.org. Someone there suggested pinning, and having tried various incantations in /etc/apt/preferences, this one appears to work.

Package: fltk
Pin: version 1.1.7*
Pin-Priority: 1001

The fltk version 1.1.7* is referring to fltk-1.1.7-1.fc5, which is the installed version of fltk, and installed using rpm -Uvh <path to fltk package>. I replaced the fltk-1.1.8-0.3.r5750.fc7 version with the fc5 version, as the fc7 version creates problems with ZynnAddSubFX.

Can we help you?X

Ignore the rpm stuff as it refers to Fedora, but apart from that the pinning appears to be working ok.

I ran an apt-get update, and no warning about pinning problems. Followed that with an apt-get dist-upgrade -s, and got no packages to be upgraded, which confirmed that the pinning was working. Opened Synaptic, and installed version of fltk was showing as 1.1.7-1.fc5, and available version of fltk is also showing as 1.1.7-1.fc5, which again showed that the pinning was working.

Thanks again for your help with an Apt problem on Fedora, and btw, I still havn't had a reply to this problem I sent to the Fedora list. They're probably too occupied with Yum problems, or just didn't have an answer.

Nigel.

Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:47:04 -0600
From: "Fred Yeadon" <fwyeadon@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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I am running Debian Sid with a 2.6.10 kernel and an HP OfficeJet 5510 All-In-One printer attached through a USB port, using CUPS for all printing. Since updating my entire installation recently, I have not been able to communicate with the printer, although it was working previously. The problem exists whether I use the CUPS admin web-browser application, or the HPLIP utilities. In web searches of the HPLIP web site and various email forums, I have found information about previous similar problems in HPLIP, but most are regarding old problems that have been fixed, and none of the more recent suggestions have worked for me.

Here are the errors I see in /var/log/syslog.

Dec 15 13:32:14 fwy-li officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96: io/hpmud/musb.c 549: invalid product id string: Operation not permitted Dec 15 13:32:14 fwy-li officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96: io/hpmud/musb.c 1003: unable to open
hp:/usb/officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96 Dec 15 13:32:14 fwy-li officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96: INFO: open device failed; will retry in 30 seconds...

Here are relevant installed packages.

fwy-li:/home/fwy# dpkg -l "hp*" cupsys
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Description 

+++-==============-==============-============================================
ii  cupsys         1.3.4-2        Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server
pn  hp-ppd                  (no description available)
pn  hp2xx                   (no description available)
pn  hp48cc                  (no description available)
ii  hpijs          2.7.10+2.7.10- HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS
drive
ii  hpijs-ppds     2.7.10+2.7.10- HP Linux Printing and Imaging - HPIJS PPD
fi
pn  hping2                  (no description available)
ii  hplip          2.7.10-5       HP Linux Printing and Imaging System

Don't know where to look next?X

(HPLIP)
pn  hplip-base              (no description available)
ii  hplip-data     2.7.10-5       HP Linux Printing and Imaging - data files
un  hplip-doc               (no description available)
ii  hplip-gui      2.7.10-5       HP Linux Printing and Imaging - GUI
utilitie
pn  hplip-ppds              (no description available)
pn  hpoj                    (no description available)
un  hpoj-xojpanel           (no description available)
pn  hpscanpbm               (no description available)
pn  hpsockd                 (no description available)

Here is the output of the 'lsusb' command, where is appears that the device is recognized properly.

fwy-li:/home/fwy# lsusb
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 03f0:3a11 Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet 5510 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000

Here is the output of the 'hp-probe' command, which also looks correct.

Confused? Frustrated?X

fwy-li:/home/fwy# hp-probe -busb

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 2.7.10) Printer Discovery Utility ver. 4.0

Copyright (c) 2001-7 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.


| DEVICE DISCOVERY | 
  Device URI                                         Model

  -------------------------------------------------
------------------------

  hp:/usb/officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96 HP officejet 5500 series

Found 1 printer(s) on the 'usb' bus.

Here is the output of the '/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp' command.

fwy-li:/home/fwy# /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp direct hp:/usb/officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96 "HP officejet 5500 series" "HP officejet 5500 series USB MY55DG135K96 HPLIP" "MFG:HP;MDL:officejet 5500 series;CLS:PRINTER;DES:officejet 5500 series;SN:MY55DG135K96;"

And finally, here is the output of the 'lpinfo -l -v' command.

fwy-li:/home/fwy# lpinfo -l -v
Device: uri = socket 

        class = network
        info = AppSocket/HP JetDirect
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id =
Device: uri = beh
        class = network
        info = Backend Error Handler
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id =
Device: uri = hpfax
        class = direct
        info = HP Fax (HPLIP)
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id =
Device: uri = hp
        class = direct
        info = HP Printer (HPLIP)
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id =
Device: uri = http
        class = network
        info = Internet Printing Protocol (http)
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id =
Device: uri = ipp
        class = network
        info = Internet Printing Protocol (ipp)
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id =
Device: uri = lpd
        class = network
        info = LPD/LPR Host or Printer
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id =
Device: uri = parallel:/dev/lp0
        class = direct
        info = LPT #1
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id =
Device: uri = scsi

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        class = direct
        info = SCSI Printer
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id =
Device: uri = smb
        class = network
        info = Windows Printer via SAMBA
        make-and-model = Unknown
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The HPLIP Toolbox application (hp-toolbox) sees the printer with the correct URL, but cannot communicate with it. It displays the message 'ERROR: Device not found. Please check connection and power-on device.' I have tried setting up the printer using both hp-setup and CUPS, with the same results. Yet the physical USB connection is fine and the power is on.

Based on similar postings I have seen on the web, I have tried changing the URL from the default hp:/usb/officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96 to usb://hp/officejet%205500%20series?serial=MY55DG135K96, but this caused CUPS to think that the printer was disconnected. Other postings suggested that permissions or other information set in the udev rules files (/etc/udev/rules.d/*) were causing problems. However, I am not using udev, so I don't think these points are relevant.

Is this a bug in the Debian hplip 2.7.10 package?

Thx in advance,
fwy

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I am running Debian Sid with a 2.6.10 kernel and an HP OfficeJet 5510 All-In-One printer attached through a USB port, using CUPS for all printing.&nbsp; Since updating my entire installation recently, I have not been able to communicate with the printer, although it was working previously.&nbsp; The problem exists whether I use the CUPS admin web-browser application, or the HPLIP utilities.&nbsp; In web searches of the HPLIP web site and various email forums, I have found information about previous similar problems in HPLIP, but most are regarding old problems that have been fixed, and none of the more recent suggestions have worked for me. 



Here are the errors I see in /var/log/syslog.

Dec 15 13:32:14 fwy-li officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96: io/hpmud/musb.c 549: invalid product id string: Operation not permitted
Dec 15 13:32:14 fwy-li officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96: io/hpmud/musb.c 1003: unable to open hp:/usb/officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96

Dec 15 13:32:14 fwy-li officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96: INFO: open device failed; will retry in 30 seconds...


Here are relevant installed packages.

fwy-li:/home/fwy# dpkg -l "hp*" cupsys

Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name           Version        Description

+++-==============-==============-============================================
ii  cupsys         1.3.4-2        Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server
pn  hp-ppd         <none>         (no description available)

pn  hp2xx          <none>         (no description available)
pn  hp48cc         <none>         (no description available)
ii  hpijs          2.7.10+2.7.10- HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS drive

Do you need more help?X


ii  hpijs-ppds     2.7.10+2.7.10- HP Linux Printing and Imaging - HPIJS PPD fi
pn  hping2         <none>         (no description available)
ii  hplip          2.7.10-5       HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP)

pn  hplip-base     <none>         (no description available)
ii  hplip-data     2.7.10-5       HP Linux Printing and Imaging - data files
un  hplip-doc      <none>         (no description available)
ii&nbsp; hplip-gui&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.7.10-5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; HP Linux Printing and Imaging - GUI utilitie<br>pn&nbsp; hplip-ppds&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;none&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (no description available)<br>pn&nbsp; hpoj&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;none&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (no description available)<br> un&nbsp; hpoj-xojpanel&nbsp; &lt;none&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (no description available)<br>pn&nbsp; hpscanpbm&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;none&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (no description available)<br>pn&nbsp; hpsockd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;none&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (no description available)<br><br><br>Here is the output of the &#39;lsusb&#39; command, where is appears that the device is recognized properly. 


fwy-li:/home/fwy# lsusb
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 03f0:3a11 Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet 5510
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  


Here is the output of the 'hp-probe' command, which also looks correct.


fwy-li:/home/fwy# hp-probe -busb

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 2.7.10)
Printer Discovery Utility ver. 4.0

Copyright (c) 2001-7 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.

This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.


--------------------
| DEVICE DISCOVERY |
--------------------

  Device URI                                         Model                   

Can we help you?X


  -------------------------------------------------  ------------------------
  hp:/usb/officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96  HP officejet 5500 series

Found 1 printer(s) on the 'usb' bus.




Here is the output of the '/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp' command.

fwy-li:/home/fwy# /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp
direct hp:/usb/officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96 "HP officejet 5500 series" "HP officejet 5500 series USB MY55DG135K96 HPLIP" "MFG:HP;MDL:officejet 5500 series;CLS:PRINTER;DES:officejet 5500 series;SN:MY55DG135K96;"



And finally, here is the output of the 'lpinfo -l -v' command.

fwy-li:/home/fwy# lpinfo -l -v
Device: uri = socket
        class = network
        info = AppSocket/HP JetDirect
        make-and-model = Unknown

        device-id = 
Device: uri = beh
        class = network
        info = Backend Error Handler
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id = 
Device: uri = hpfax
        class = direct

Can't find what you're looking for?X


        info = HP Fax (HPLIP)
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id = 
Device: uri = hp
        class = direct
        info = HP Printer (HPLIP)
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id = 

Device: uri = http
        class = network
        info = Internet Printing Protocol (http)
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id = 
Device: uri = ipp
        class = network
        info = Internet Printing Protocol (ipp)

        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id = 
Device: uri = lpd
        class = network
        info = LPD/LPR Host or Printer
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id = 
Device: uri = parallel:/dev/lp0

        class = direct
        info = LPT #1
        make-and-model = Unknown
        device-id = 
Device: uri = scsi
        class = direct
        info = SCSI Printer
        make-and-model = Unknown

Don't know where to look next?X


        device-id = 
Device: uri = smb
        class = network
        info = Windows Printer via SAMBA
        make-and-model = Unknown



The HPLIP Toolbox application (hp-toolbox) sees the printer with the correct URL, but cannot communicate with it.  It displays the message 'ERROR: Device not found.  Please check connection and power-on device.'  I have tried setting up the printer using both hp-setup and CUPS, with the same results.  Yet the physical USB connection is fine and the power is on.



Based on similar postings I have seen on the web, I have tried changing the URL from the default hp:/usb/officejet_5500_series?serial=MY55DG135K96 to usb://hp/officejet%205500%20series?serial=MY55DG135K96, but this caused CUPS to think that the printer was disconnected.  Other postings suggested that permissions or other information set in the udev rules files (/etc/udev/rules.d/*) were causing problems.  However, I am not using udev, so I don't think these points are relevant.


Is this a bug in the Debian hplip 2.7.10 package?


Thx in advance,
fwy

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Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:08:24 -0500
From: Mark Grieveson <dg135@torfree.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: volume mgmt w/o gnome 

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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:18:22 +0000 (UTC) debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org wrote:

> This is still very much a work in progress, so anybody with comments
> or suggestions (keep it clean!) please feel free to chime in.

Thanks Dave. I tried this and it seems to work well (using thunar). So, I've tossed most of gnome, and am using fluxbox exclusively now.

Mark

Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:28:50 -0800
From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to stop a pkg being updated to the latest with Apt 

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On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 09:46:58PM +0100, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> was heard to say:
> On Wednesday 12 December 2007 20:23, Peter Werner wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 07:44:39PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > > How do I prevent the fltk package being upgraded using Apt?
> >
> > put the package on hold. see 6.12 in
> > http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html
> > on how to do this.
> >
> > greetings Peter Werner
>
> Thanks Peter for your reply, and the link. Unfortunately it only deals with
> Aptitude, and Dpkg, and there appears to be no way to put a hold on an
> individual package with Apt ( at least not on the Apt version on Fedora).

Do you need help?X

  Apt and aptitude will read dpkg hold states.

  Daniel

Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:30:29 +0200
From: "Dotan Cohen" <dotancohen@gmail.com> To: "Brad Rogers" <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: clicky keyboards 

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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:46:09 -0600
From: Owen Heisler <owenh000@gmail.com>
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On Wed, 2007.12.05 10:14, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 07:51:30PM -0600, Owen Heisler wrote:
> > I don't know whether the hardware errors are related, but I'm beginning=
 to not=20
> > trust the PCDoctor software included on the ThinkPad Rescue & Recovery =
media. =20
> > It doesn't include any more information than what is in this message (u=
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> > I'm missing something). Linux isn't complaining about any hardware and=
=20
> > everything seems to work.
>=20
> I know that some IBMs come with nice software for user's to run, but
> usually there's a bios-based advanced diagnostics. If you get the
> service manual from IBM's website, you'll probably find the magic
> keystrokes (try holding down F1 while you power on) to get into the
> advanced diagnostics. If there is a hardware fault, it will give you
> an FRU number which you then look up in the service manual and it tells
> you what it is and what to do. Its usally quite detailed.

I've been through the BIOS, but there are no diagnostics available there.

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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:51:57 +0000
From: Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: clicky keyboards
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:30:29 +0200
"Dotan Cohen" <dotancohen@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Dotan,

> We have that at home, too. Well, at least the wife thinks so. That's
> how she programs me. I'll try the ear-plugs tip, thanks!

YW. :-)

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Date: 15 Dec 2007 09:27:53 -0800
From: Carl Johnson <carlj@peak.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: closest to eagle
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"abdelkader belahcene" <abelahcene@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
> I am looking for the closest free software to eagle ( electonic
> Printed circuit board design tool).
> thanks a lot
> best regards
> bela

`apt-cache search pcb` shows:

pcb - printed circuit board (pcb) design program gerbv - Gerber file viewer for PCB design kicad - Electronic schematic and PCB design software 

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