debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #3020

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 3020

Today's Topics:

  Re: aptitude dist-upgrade complainin  [ Rick Thomas  ]
  Re: printing gives only totallly bla  [ Kenward Vaughan  ]
  NO mail from Debian lists..           [ Jack Schneider  ]
  Re: NO mail from Debian lists..       [ Pol Hallen  ]
  Re: won't dual boot: 2 disks and LVM  [ joseph lockhart  ]
  Re: amarok hangs                      [ Jonathan Kaye  ]
  exim - config & timing of the queue   [ "Bob Goldberg"  ]
  Where to find Sarge install disks?    [ Rick Thomas  ]

  usb mouse problems: etch/gnome/metac [ cs <cs@networkingnewsletter.org.uk> ]   Re: Where to find Sarge install disk [ Matthias Popp <pmshell2002@yahoo.de ]

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:28:30 -0500

From: Rick Thomas 
To: Debian Users 
Cc: Sjoerd Hardeman 

Subject: Re: aptitude dist-upgrade complaining about evolution being broken?

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Followup is bottom posted...

On Dec 18, 2007, at 3:09 AM, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:

> Rick Thomas wrote:
>>
>> When I do "aptitude dist-upgrade" on my Lenny testing machine, I get:
>>
>>
>>> The following packages are BROKEN:
>>> evolution-exchange evolution-plugins gnome-desktop-environment
>>> The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
>>> evolution
>>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>>> evolution
>>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>>> evolution-webcal libasound2 libdjvulibre15 libenchant1c2a
>>> liblog4j1.2-java
>>> The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
>>> liblog4j1.2-java-gcj
>>> 5 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not
>>> upgraded.
>>> Need to get 1674kB of archives. After unpacking 9310kB will be
>>> freed.
>>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>> gnome-desktop-environment: Depends: evolution (>= 2.6.3) but it is
>>> not installable
>>> evolution-exchange: Depends: evolution (>= 2.10.2) but it is not
>>> installable
>>> evolution-plugins: Depends: evolution (>= 2.10.3) but it is not
>>> installable
>>> Resolving dependencies...
>>> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>>>
>>> Keep the following packages at their current version:
>>> evolution [2.10.3-1 (testing, testing, now)]
>>> evolution-webcal [2.10.0-1 (testing, now)]
>>>
>>> Score is 191
>>>
>>> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
>>> Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
>>> Abort.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts on what's wrong or what to do about it?
> Yes, the evolution-webcal is for a new version of evolution that is
> not
> yet available in testing yet. Accept the option offered by aptitude
> (to
> keep evolution) and wait for the upgraded evolution to become
> available
> for testing.
>
> Sjoerd
>>
>>
>> Rick

OK, I did that, and now it says:

> The following packages are BROKEN:
> evolution-exchange evolution-plugins gnome-desktop-environment
> The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
> evolution
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> evolution
> The following packages will be upgraded:
> evolution-webcal
> 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not
> upgraded.
> Need to get 95.6kB of archives. After unpacking 9310kB will be freed.
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> gnome-desktop-environment: Depends: evolution (>= 2.6.3) but it
> is not installable
> evolution-exchange: Depends: evolution (>= 2.10.2) but it is not
> installable
> evolution-plugins: Depends: evolution (>= 2.10.3) but it is not
> installable
> Resolving dependencies...
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>
> Remove the following packages:
> evolution-webcal
>
> Keep the following packages at their current version:
> evolution [2.10.3-1 (testing, testing, now)]
>
> Score is 190
>
> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
> Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
> Abort.

I don't use evolution-webcal, so I'm not too worried about removing it, but I'm a little concerned when it says that gnome-desktop- environment is broken. Is it going to try to remove that next?

Happy Solstice!

Rick

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:33:58 -0800
From: Kenward Vaughan <kay_jay@earthlink.net> To: Debian-Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: printing gives only totallly black pages

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On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 11:41 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> I haven't been tracking any threads on cups, so don't know whether
> others have encountered this or not. Nothing seems to show up in the
> archives.
>
> I just upgraded in Sid last night and today discovered that printing was
> messed up--first the printers wouldn't respond, then (after rebooting),
> all I get with printing is a very black page. This happens whether from
> the cups admin page, a website page, or something as simple as
> dmesg | tail | lpr
> from the command line.
>
> I have an HP 1200, and am using the cups/gutenprint driver.

After several reinstalls/purges/reconfigures with different ppds, etc., I finally tried using an older HP ppd for the printer instead of relying on the Gutenprint or HP ppds which came with the various packages.

That seems to have fixed the problem. I have no clue why the other ppds stopped working. Oh well.

Kenward

-- 
The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I
have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than
in the church.    --Ferdinand Magellan

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:42:21 -0500 From: "Manu Hack" <manuhack@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook? Message-ID: <50af02ed0712180842nb4be46i342d43cdc14062d0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Dec 18, 2007 11:06 AM, Ivan Savcic <isavcic@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2007 5:50 AM, js <ebgssth@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thank you all!
> >
> > Conclusion:
> >
> > Pros:
> > - It's Debian!
> > - It's Free!
> > - Great environment for Programming (better than ssh to linux development style)
> > - More open source softwares support
> >
> > Cons:
> > - might harder to get your devices working. wifi, printer, dual
> > display, iPod etc.
> > - lost lots of OSX goodies (beautiful fonts, expose, widgets,
> > spotlight, sleep mode etc.)
> > - lost vendor's support
>
> - not bleeding edge enough for desktop role (compare to Ubuntu)
how much better is Ubuntu compared with Sid? Recently I have a hard time trying to install Debian-amd64 on a Toshiba A215-S7413 (cannot use the ATI driver to use X, need to use vesa instead, no sound with hours of googling, decided to stop and take a break before going on working on the wireless card, I couldn't even shutdown properly http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-kernel@lists.debian.org/msg31118.html). Before I have already installed Debian-i386 on two Toshiba without any major problems (I don't use hibernate or suspense so didn't bother to try). Is it because of the amd64 version or just because the combination of the wireless/sound/video card is not debian-friendly? I should have been more careful picking the right laptop though (maybe before having two easy experience on Toshiba laptops made me think all Toshiba laptops are easy with debian ... ). well, just want to share some experience ... Manu

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:03:09 -0600 From: Jack Schneider <puck@dp-indexing.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: NO mail from Debian lists.. Message-Id: <1197993789.10094.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Anyone seeing mail??? Jack

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:01:35 +0100 From: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: printenv color output Message-ID: <87k5ncc4y8.fsf@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, On 2007-12-18 15:05 +0100, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 12:45:14PM +0100, roberto wrote:
>> is there any way to let the variables printed on screen by 'printenv'
>> to be coloured in order to be easily identified ?
>>
>> i have a large output and some variable is hardly recognized among the
>> value of the previous or the next ...
>>
>
> I don't see any way from the man page for /usr/bin/printenv nor from the
> bash man page. As I see it, you have two options:
>
> 1. Change the source for /usr/bin/printenv and its man page.
> Submit the changes as an enhancement.
>
> 2. Write a script to take the output of printenv (or that runs
> /usr/bin/printenv and captures the output), colourizes it as you
> wish and displays it.
Here is an implementation of 2., short enough to make it an alias :-): printenv | egrep --color '^[^=]+' Cheers, Sven

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:52:32 +0100 From: Pol Hallen <debianen@fuckaround.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Jack Schneider <puck@dp-indexing.com> Subject: Re: NO mail from Debian lists.. Message-Id: <200712181752.32919.debianen@fuckaround.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
> Anyone seeing mail???
:-) Pol

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:35:35 -0800 (PST) From: David Natkins <dcnatkins@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: NO mail from Debian lists.. Message-ID: <894366.62644.qm@web51801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just saw yours. -----Original Message----- From: Pol Hallen [mailto:debianen@fuckaround.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:53 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Jack Schneider Subject: Re: NO mail from Debian lists..
> Anyone seeing mail???
:-) Pol --=20 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org=20 with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org ___________________________________________________________________= _________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.=20 http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:16:15 -0800 (PST) From: joseph lockhart <jwl_andlovesaidno@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: won't dual boot: 2 disks and LVM Message-ID: <283868.34300.qm@web59307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- michael <cs@networkingnewsletter.org.uk> wrote:
> Whilst, it's a Fedora distro I've on the machine in
> question, I think
> the same problem manifests itself with Debian, LVM
> and WinXP so hoping
> somebody can help!
>=20
> I'm looking for a solution for (re-)installing WinXP
> on my slave disk
> when I have Fedora and LVM on the master disk. In
> the past I've opened
> up the box and unplugged the Fedora/LVM disk in
> order for WinXP to
> install okay. But this seems much too drastic. Even
> swapping disk order
> (in BIOS) doesn't help - WinXP installation sits
> there "forever" when
> checking current config.
>=20
> Whilst I cannot find any definite reference stating
> "MS WinXP cannot
> handle LVM" it does seem to be the culprit.=20
>=20
> Anybody got any such definitive references or other
> help?
>=20
> Thanks, Michael
>=20
well here is what i find on ms own website http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306559 seems that winxp can only dual boot with other ms os's haha right, but AFAIK you have to install winxp first then install linux second (seems to overwrite grub/lilo) jwlockhart Registered Linux User #458799 Registered Kubuntu User #19678 this user is penguin powered ___________________________________________________________________= _________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and=20 know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_y= lt=3DAhu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ=20

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:13:02 -0500 From: Mark Grieveson <dg135@torfree.net> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: non-free and multimedia cds Message-ID: <20071218141302.35e132ae@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:51:09 +1000 "Adrian Levi" wrote:
> On 18/12/2007, Mark Grieveson <dg135@torfree.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:29:57 +0000 (UTC)
> > debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org wrote:
> >
> > > > Is it possible to order/purchase a CD and/or DVD that has the
> > > > debian multimedia, and non-free, repositories? Is there a
> > > > place to download such an image?
> > >
> > > You can use debmirror to download the relevant portions from the
> > > repositories.
> > >
> > > apt-get install debmirror
> > > debmirror --nosource --verbose --host mirrors.kernel.org --dist
> > > etch \ --method=http --section=non-free --arch=i386 --progress \
> > > target-dir
> > >
> > > Similarly for the multimedia repos.
> >
> >
> > Thanks. I tried this, but got the following errors:
> >
> > ggpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
> > Release signature does not verify.

> >
> > [later] Okay, I added --ignore-release-gpg to the command, and it's
> > working now.
> >
> > Mark
>
> Ignore those error messages at your own peril, debian-archive-keyring
> and debian-keyring are 2 packages that may help your situation.
>
> Adrian
>
Good advice. I stopped the download, and decided to try to get it to work without the "--ignore-release-gpg" option. I can't get it working, though. I installed the packages you mentioned, but it still won't work. I then tried the instructions from the debmirror man page for this. I then tried seahorse, gpgkeys, reading what I could in /usr/share/doc about it, checking all my pockets.... Aaack! I can't find my keys! Hopefully I've not messed things up further in screwing around with seahorse and all. One of the keys seems fine (6070D3A1), but it refers to another key I have, ADB11277, which is a problem: gpg: Signature made Wed 15 Aug 2007 06:46:57 PM EDT using DSA key ID ADB11277 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found Release signature does not verify. Well, any suggestions for fixing this, are appreciated. Mark PS, someone asked why getting a non-free disk, and a multimedia disk, is necessary. It's not, actually, but I like to have the full choice at my fingertips. Because I have dial-up, I like having all the main and contrib files on disk, so that, if I wish to quickly install and try a program, I can. And, likewise, I wish to have this choice for non-free and multimedia too.

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:51:38 +0100 From: Jonathan Kaye <jdkaye10@yahoo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: amarok hangs Message-ID: <fk98cn$okp$1@ger.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Chris wrote:
> Thanks! Yea, I have it running on another system and it seems to be
> stable
> there. The system on which amarok hangs seems to be otherwise stable: go
> figure.
>
> Chris
Yeah, tell me about it. But life is more interesting this way. ;-) and Amarok does rock. Cheers, Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:55:44 -0600 From: "Bob Goldberg" <bobg.hahc@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: exim - config & timing of the queue - a few Q's :) Message-ID: <4e312cc10712181155y1bcc29di62c63301b8d5fa90@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22751_31535310.1198007744045" ------=_Part_22751_31535310.1198007744045 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline David, I'm very appreciative for your response... TX much for the info. ------=_Part_22751_31535310.1198007744045 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline David,<br><br>I&#39;m very appreciative for your response...<br>TX much for the info.<br><br><br> ------=_Part_22751_31535310.1198007744045--

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:09:58 +0100 From: Frodo Looijaard <frodo@frodo.looijaard.name> To: T o n g <mlist4suntong@yahoo.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: getopt and parameters with spaces Message-ID: <20071218200958.GA2620@arda.frodo.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 06:29:01PM -0500, T o n g wrote:
> I seem to have found a bug of getopt from the util-linux
> package. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> I believe that the suggested way to call getopt is
>
> eval set -- `getopt -o <options> -- "$@"`
No, it is actually: eval set -- "`getopt -o <options> -- "$@"`" Note the extra set of double quotes! See also the example script (on debian installed in /usr/share/doc/util-linux/examples/getopt-parse.bash.gz), which does it in two steps, in order to preserve the return code: TEMP=`getopt -o ab:c:: --long a-long,b-long:,c-long:: \ -n 'example.bash' -- "$@"` if [ $? != 0 ] ; then echo "Terminating..." >&2 ; exit 1 ; fi # Note the quotes around `$TEMP': they are essential! eval set -- "$TEMP" That remark about the quotes is not there by accident :-)
> But I found that it can't handle parameters with spaces well:
>
> $ set -- -t 'test p 1' 2
[..]
> $ eval set -- `getopt -o t: -- "$@"`
>
> $ echo "'$2'"
> 'test p 1'
Correct. But with the extra double quotes around the backquotes, it preserves the spaces correctly. Have fun, Frodo -- Frodo Looijaard <frodo(at)frodo.looijaard.name> (See http://frodo.looijaard.name/) Defenestration n. (formal or joc.): The act of removing Windows from your computer in disgust, usually followed by the installation of Linux or some other Unix-like operating system.

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:45:05 -0500 From: Rick Thomas <rbthomas55@pobox.com> To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Cc: Sjoerd Hardeman <sjoerd@lorentz.leidenuniv.nl> Subject: Re: aptitude dist-upgrade complaining about evolution being broken? Message-Id: <A2403317-A359-44DA-A825-F139CFC9F4A5@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Followup is bottom posted... On Dec 18, 2007, at 2:13 PM, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> Rick Thomas schreef:
>> On Dec 18, 2007, at 3:09 AM, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
>>
>>> Rick Thomas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When I do "aptitude dist-upgrade" on my Lenny testing machine, I
>>>> get:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The following packages are BROKEN:
>>>>> evolution-exchange evolution-plugins gnome-desktop-environment
>>>>> The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
>>>>> evolution
>>>>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>>>>> evolution
>>>>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>>>>> evolution-webcal libasound2 libdjvulibre15 libenchant1c2a
>>>>> liblog4j1.2-java
>>>>> The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
>>>>> liblog4j1.2-java-gcj
>>>>> 5 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not
>>>>> upgraded.
>>>>> Need to get 1674kB of archives. After unpacking 9310kB will be
>>>>> freed.
>>>>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>>>> gnome-desktop-environment: Depends: evolution (>= 2.6.3) but
>>>>> it is
>>>>> not installable
>>>>> evolution-exchange: Depends: evolution (>= 2.10.2) but it is not
>>>>> installable
>>>>> evolution-plugins: Depends: evolution (>= 2.10.3) but it is not
>>>>> installable
>>>>> Resolving dependencies...
>>>>> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep the following packages at their current version:
>>>>> evolution [2.10.3-1 (testing, testing, now)]
>>>>> evolution-webcal [2.10.0-1 (testing, now)]
>>>>>
>>>>> Score is 191
>>>>>
>>>>> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
>>>>> Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
>>>>> Abort.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts on what's wrong or what to do about it?
>>> Yes, the evolution-webcal is for a new version of evolution that
>>> is not
>>> yet available in testing yet. Accept the option offered by
>>> aptitude (to
>>> keep evolution) and wait for the upgraded evolution to become
>>> available
>>> for testing.
>>>
>>> Sjoerd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>
>> OK, I did that, and now it says:
>>
>>> The following packages are BROKEN:
>>> evolution-exchange evolution-plugins gnome-desktop-environment
>>> The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
>>> evolution
>>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>>> evolution
>>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>>> evolution-webcal
>>> 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not
>>> upgraded.
>>> Need to get 95.6kB of archives. After unpacking 9310kB will be
>>> freed.
>>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>> gnome-desktop-environment: Depends: evolution (>= 2.6.3) but it is
>>> not installable
>>> evolution-exchange: Depends: evolution (>= 2.10.2) but it is not
>>> installable
>>> evolution-plugins: Depends: evolution (>= 2.10.3) but it is not
>>> installable
>>> Resolving dependencies...
>>> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>>>
>>> Remove the following packages:
>>> evolution-webcal
>>>
>>> Keep the following packages at their current version:
>>> evolution [2.10.3-1 (testing, testing, now)]
>>>
>>> Score is 190
>>>
>>> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
>>> Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
>>> Abort.
>>
>>
>> I don't use evolution-webcal, so I'm not too worried about
>> removing it,
>> but I'm a little concerned when it says that gnome-desktop-
>> environment
>> is broken. Is it going to try to remove that next?
> You still have evolution 2-10-3, which solves the dependency-problems
> mentioned by aptitude, except the dependency problems for webcal.
> Accepting the offer (remove webcal, keep evolutions) seems the sane
> thing to do to me. I get the message you got earlier too when doing a
> dist-upgrade. Accepting the "keep everything the same for now"
> works for me.
>
> Sjoerd
So I accepted removing evolution-webcal and everything is OK now, except presumably that evolution-webcal is gone (permanently? Can I get it back when the peoblem is fixed?). If I used it, I'd be unhappy. But I don't so I'm not. Happy Solstice, everyone! Rick

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:47:53 -0500 From: Rick Thomas <rbthomas55@pobox.com> To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Where to find Sarge install disks? Message-Id: <A877159B-FB82-481B-BFB5-F0A169AB99D9@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For reasons that aren't worth explaining, I need to install Debian Sarge (old-stable) for a little while. But I can't seem to find the ISO's for it. Does anybody know where they are hidden? Thanks! Rick

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:53:21 +0000 From: cs <cs@networkingnewsletter.org.uk> To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: usb mouse problems: etch/gnome/metacity Message-Id: <1198011201.6637.22.camel@amd64.local> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've not managed to define precisely when I get borrows but I'm noticing the following symptoms and was wondering if some kind soul would help me debug what's going on in order to get to a solution? Thanks, Michael set-up: etch, gnome (eg gnome-core 2.14.3.6), metacity 2.14.5-4 and Dell/Logitech USB optical mouse (seems to work fine in WinXP), with nVidia graphics card/TwinView and 2 monitors (diff resolutions) symptoms (occasional and not sure how to repeat) a) double clicking won't select anything b) in evolution, clicking on a new message or folder has no effect c) the cursor (arrowhead) disappears - if I set prefs to show cursor by depressing 'CNTL' I get the moving rectangles but there's no cursor there) d) focus doesn't move to new window (as it should and usually does) I think the following is also a symptom but not 100% sure: e) doing ALT-TAB to move between windows does nothing on very first ALT-TAB Any thoughts??? Or am I just going mad, slowly?? Thanks, M

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:12:37 +0100 From: Matthias Popp <pmshell2002@yahoo.de> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Where to find Sarge install disks? Message-Id: <200712182212.43395.pmshell2002@yahoo.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8501117.WD8t8HdQHE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart8501117.WD8t8HdQHE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2007 schrieb Rick Thomas:
> For reasons that aren't worth explaining, I need to install Debian
> Sarge (old-stable) for a little while.
>
> But I can't seem to find the ISO's for it. Does anybody know where
> they are hidden?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rick
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