Re: Penalty of SELinux?

On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 11:13:13AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 09:51:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 09/22/07 20:44, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > > Well, it speeded up somewhat by ditching the install-by-default locales
> > > stuff and sticking with 'C'. I use icewm. On Etch, xorg takes a lot
> > > more memory than on OBSD. Enough that with one xterm only, Etch hits
> > > swap and OBSD has 15 MB ram free. I can open Konqueror via ssh and
> > > still not hit swap (unless I open more than 4 tabs).
> > >
> > > So yes, etch is slower and uses more memory than OpenBSD.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, nothing is easier to set up than Debian with
> > > aptitutude. OBSD's packages don't come with startup scripts; you have
> > > to write your own. I've also had some interoperability problems when
> > > sshing from OBSD to Etch. Had to find a common TERM when on VTs
> > > (TERM=screen works), and lately iceweasel doesn't work via ssh from
> > > OBSD.
> > >
> > > Also, as a desktop, OBSD is difficult.
> > >
> > > So its a tradeoff. I haven't decided which way to go for the P-II, but
> > > I'll stick with Etch for my Athlon64 for the multi-media ease.
> >
> > What's FreeBSD like of small systems?
>
> Its not their thing either.
>
> I know there are minidistros like DSL but DSL is small as in how much
> can they pack onto a small CD, not how to shoehorn into 16-32 MB ram.
> I'm also not sure how they keep up with security fixes.
>
> OBSD becomes new every 6 months with security patches whenever, but I
> can't build with this small ram and especially this small a drive.
>
> My biggest problem is that there is not OS designed to be great for a
> stand-alone old small computer. An OS that can both fit on small
> resources, and be kept up-to-date without a separate build machine.
>
> Linux's target is the modern desktop and the focus is on keeping up with
> new hardware. The BSDs keep the drivers for old hardware but patches
> require building and that building relies on gcc which isn't optimized
> for use on old systems.
>
> So I'll keep looking.

depending on what you are trying to do, opwnrt - build for 8M-16M flash machines, they have a compile for x86 ? I believe based on debian www.openwrt.org

>
> Doug.
>
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